January 15, 20169 yr Well it's multiple stories, so it's probably bagels on the 1st, yoga on the top.
January 15, 20169 yr I heard something about a bagel shop and yoga studio going in there. A bagel shop that is also a yoga studio? Or a bagel shop COMMA and a yoga studio. Dharma Shmear, they're a franchise. We've got six of those in San Diego.
January 16, 20169 yr I just drove all the way out Lorain today, from 25th to 140th. Would everyone on here agree that this street is as close as we come within the City of Cleveland to a glimpse into the density of the mixed-use past? Even with all the buildings missing--there are still quite a few standing.
January 16, 20169 yr I just drove all the way out Lorain today, from 25th to 140th. Would everyone on here agree that this street is as close as we come within the City of Cleveland to a glimpse into the density of the mixed-use past? Even with all the buildings missing--there are still quite a few standing. Luckily, Lorain is still pretty solid overall.
January 16, 20169 yr I just drove all the way out Lorain today, from 25th to 140th. Would everyone on here agree that this street is as close as we come within the City of Cleveland to a glimpse into the density of the mixed-use past? Even with all the buildings missing--there are still quite a few standing. Yes, it and Detroit Avenue's built environment are both pretty much intact. BTW, St. Clair's isn't too bad until you get close to East 105th. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 16, 20169 yr I just drove all the way out Lorain today, from 25th to 140th. Would everyone on here agree that this street is as close as we come within the City of Cleveland to a glimpse into the density of the mixed-use past? Even with all the buildings missing--there are still quite a few standing. Yes, it and Detroit Avenue's built environment are both pretty much intact. BTW, St. Clair's isn't too bad until you get close to East 105th. I HATE St Clair between E 12th and around E 40th though....
January 16, 20169 yr I just drove all the way out Lorain today, from 25th to 140th. Would everyone on here agree that this street is as close as we come within the City of Cleveland to a glimpse into the density of the mixed-use past? Even with all the buildings missing--there are still quite a few standing. You can certainly picture the streetcar zipping by those storefronts, for sure. Was there a moment of silence for Steve's Lunch?
January 17, 20169 yr I just drove all the way out Lorain today, from 25th to 140th. Would everyone on here agree that this street is as close as we come within the City of Cleveland to a glimpse into the density of the mixed-use past? Even with all the buildings missing--there are still quite a few standing. In such a long stretch, yes
January 17, 20169 yr Hard to say. W25th from Lorain to Fulton is also pretty good. Have the areas around Clark, Denison and Broadview along with everything inbetween. There are also some intact neighborhoods. The bridge between Dension and Broadview takes away from some of that however.
January 28, 20169 yr Funny someone should mention Denison. I walked around that neighborhood yesterday, on both sides of Dennison ("Brooklyn Centre Historic District") and noted how few demolitions there have been on those streets - in contrast to what's been going on in parts of Cleveland Heights, for example, and so many other area. Back "on topic," concerning post above, W. 25th doesn't go to Fulton....
January 28, 20169 yr I just drove all the way out Lorain today, from 25th to 140th. Would everyone on here agree that this street is as close as we come within the City of Cleveland to a glimpse into the density of the mixed-use past? Even with all the buildings missing--there are still quite a few standing. Yes. I drove out Lorain last summer and noticed this. It just has so many pockets, both good and bad. It's really narrow from W. 25 to (I think) just beyond Denison where it gets wider. The most intact places are around Fulton, that antiques section just before horribly destructive I-90 west, Denison (great potential there) and around W. 117th. I'm frustrated with the wasted TOD potential around the W. 65 Red Line station. RTA rebuilt that station 12 years ago, but aside from the Eco Village townhomes which opened in anticipation of the station rebuild, there's been nothing in terms of TOD built -- unless you count the nearby, substantial, Waverly Station and St. Stephens Court townhouse developments off Lorain. I just wish the developers could get that very promising, substantial mixed-use complex off the ground at Market Sq. plaza and the W. 25 Rapid station.
January 28, 20169 yr This is at Kan Zaman.... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2016/crr02-08-2016.pdf Board of Zoning Appeals FEBRUARY 8, 2016 Calendar No. 16-004: 1616 West 25 Street Ward 3 Ojala properties, owner, proposes to add use of hookah lounge to existing restaurant with entertainment in a D3 Local Retail Business District and a Pedestrian Retail Overlay District. The owner appeals for relief from the following sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances: 1. Section 343.11(b)(2)(T) which states that Hookah lounge use is first permitted in General Retail Business District. 2. Section 347.12(a) which states that where permitted in a particular use district, hookah lounges may only operate between 9:00am and 10:00pm Sunday through Thursday and between 9:00am and 11:00pm Friday and Saturday. Variance from these hours is requested. 3. Section 347.121© which states that parking for Hookah Lounge is required at the rate of one accessory off-street parking space for each employee and one for each seat for 2,142 square foot lounge area. Per Section 349.04(e) of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances each twenty feet of ground or floor area usable for eating shall be considered one seat. Per Section 343.23(i) in a Pedestrian Retail Overlay District the parking requirements are reduced by 33 % therefore 74 accessory off street parking space are required 27 parking spaces are provided. (Filed January 11, 2016) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 4, 20169 yr I wouldn't call Mariners Watch "lakefront"... Sweetest pads in Cleveland--Mariner's Watch luxury lakefront living (photos) https://t.co/GgcdEFl6jA "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 4, 20169 yr Some staged units look well. Some, like this, do not. It just has too much furniture and the furniture selected is a bit on the low rent spectrum. And how many breakfast tables do you need for your massive family of 8 in a tiny unit?
February 4, 20169 yr Some staged units look well. Some, like this, do not. It just has too much furniture and the furniture selected is a bit on the low rent spectrum. And how many breakfast tables do you need for your massive family of 8 in a tiny unit? Looks fine to me. I have more furniture, book shelves, etc. than that in my condo. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 4, 20169 yr Some staged units look well. Some, like this, do not. It just has too much furniture and the furniture selected is a bit on the low rent spectrum. And how many breakfast tables do you need for your massive family of 8 in a tiny unit? Agreed. It looks bad and the decor looks cheap.
February 9, 20169 yr Glad to see so much is happening at this corner of Ohio City.... Cleveland Landmarks Commission AGENDA - February 11, 2016 Ohio City Historic District: Case 16-006 (15-017) 1468 West 25th Street Renovation, partial demolition, and additions Ohio City Historic District: Case 15-074 Hingetown Lofts 1535 Vine Court New construction of 4 townhouses I love the alleys of Ohio City (still on Vine Court)... Ohio City Historic District: Case 16-005 Steelman Building 2885 Detroit Avenue Renovation And now to the southwest end of Ohio City, just south of Lorain Ave., for a housing conversion... CLEVELAND LANDMARK NOMINATION Tinnerman Stove and Range Company 2048 Fulton Road "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 9, 20169 yr A big yey for that first project! I've said it before and I'll say it again, I hate walking down 25th to the Market area and having to go thru that stretch. So glad to see this, along with the 25th St Lofts and the Snavely project moving along to fix up those eyesores. Just need to take care of that sliding hill and the condemned buildings on top of it that't right across the street now...
February 12, 20169 yr I've been reading about the major apartment projects around Detroit and W. 25th. What's the construction at the nw corner of that intersection? Could this possibly be the apartments, already? I hope so!
February 12, 20169 yr I've been reading about the major apartment projects around Detroit and W. 25th. What's the construction at the nw corner of that intersection? Could this possibly be the apartments, already? I hope so! http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,2492.msg760693.html#msg760693 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 12, 20169 yr These are wonderful illustrations which I really appreciate, however sometimes there's preliminary construction - e.g. moving water lines, etc. I hope this is the real thing, and it would help if there were a sign up mentioning what's going up. I presume, though, this is the actual building construction and it gives me still another great reason to go to Ohio City and follow the progress.
February 12, 20169 yr ^The work you're seeing now is part of the Shoreway project. I'd expect groundbreaking for the apartments and retail sometime this Spring.
February 12, 20169 yr That's what I was afraid of. I hope the actual construction does, indeed, begin in the spring. Thanks for clarifying.
February 12, 20169 yr ^^ Yes, unfortunately it's just road construction. When I saw the construction equipment arrive I was very hopeful, but it looks like it was just a continuation of (water?) work they were doing under Vermont late last year. It's all finished up for now at least.
February 12, 20169 yr As of December, Michelle reported that Snavely hoped to break ground in "early" 2016, so hopefully we'll see some action there soon.
February 19, 20169 yr An inside look at the progress being made at @w25lofts. Uncovering so much history! https://t.co/tXdtSbIPnb "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 21, 20169 yr Is the apartment project planned for 3000 Clinton Avenue caput? The ugly building still stands and a sign only advertises "industrial space."
February 22, 20169 yr http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2016/crr02-29-2016.pdf Board of Zoning Appeals FEBRUARY 29, 2016 9:30 Calendar No. 16-016: 1535 Vine Court Units 1-4 Ward 3 Joe Cimperman 10 Notices Thomas Lenghan, owner, proposes to erect a multi-family townhouse building in a D2 Residence Industry District. The owner appeals for relief from Section 337.0319(g) which states that a Twenty (20) foot rear yard is required abutting a residential district and five feet are proposed. (Filed January 22, 2016) This is what's there now -- nothing: http://www.propertyshark.com/mason/Property/30607151/1535-Vine-Ct-Cleveland-OH-44113/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 22, 20169 yr Is the apartment project planned for 3000 Clinton Avenue caput? The ugly building still stands and a sign only advertises "industrial space." Nope. It's moving forward. Demo should begin in the spring.
February 22, 20169 yr Good! It's high time that misleading sign come down. In a case like this I hope that the company on the sign gets inquiries and is embarrassed to tell them the property is no longer available and the sign should have been removed.
February 22, 20169 yr http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2016/crr02-29-2016.pdf Board of Zoning Appeals FEBRUARY 29, 2016 9:30 Calendar No. 16-016: 1535 Vine Court Units 1-4 Ward 3 Joe Cimperman 10 Notices Thomas Lenghan, owner, proposes to erect a multi-family townhouse building in a D2 Residence Industry District. The owner appeals for relief from Section 337.0319(g) which states that a Twenty (20) foot rear yard is required abutting a residential district and five feet are proposed. (Filed January 22, 2016) This is what's there now -- nothing: http://www.propertyshark.com/mason/Property/30607151/1535-Vine-Ct-Cleveland-OH-44113/ Is this a scaled down plan of the "Townhomes at the Hinge" proposed for the vacant lot at W32nd and Franklin? http://townhomesohiocity.com/index.php
February 23, 20169 yr http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2016/crr02-29-2016.pdf Board of Zoning Appeals FEBRUARY 29, 2016 9:30 Calendar No. 16-016: 1535 Vine Court Units 1-4 Ward 3 Joe Cimperman 10 Notices Thomas Lenghan, owner, proposes to erect a multi-family townhouse building in a D2 Residence Industry District. The owner appeals for relief from Section 337.0319(g) which states that a Twenty (20) foot rear yard is required abutting a residential district and five feet are proposed. (Filed January 22, 2016) This is what's there now -- nothing: http://www.propertyshark.com/mason/Property/30607151/1535-Vine-Ct-Cleveland-OH-44113/ Is this a scaled down plan of the "Townhomes at the Hinge" proposed for the vacant lot at W32nd and Franklin? http://townhomesohiocity.com/index.php Maybe it's the wine, but I just had a major chuckle...."brand new, never built before".
February 24, 20169 yr One of my favorite buildings in Ohio City -- there's lots of brick in this part of Ohio City.... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2016/02252016/index.php Cleveland Landmarks Commission Feb. 25, 2016 Ohio City Historic District: Case 16-006 (09-019) Heyse Apartment Building 1702 West 28th Street Renovation and site improvements Ward 3 Cimperman Mark Fremont Architects Kirt Montlack LLC "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 24, 20169 yr One of my favorite buildings in Ohio City -- there's lots of brick in this part of Ohio City.... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2016/02252016/index.php Cleveland Landmarks Commission Feb. 25, 2016 Ohio City Historic District: Case 16-006 (09-019) Heyse Apartment Building 1702 West 28th Street Renovation and site improvements Ward 3 Cimperman Mark Fremont Architects Kirt Montlack LLC I see the for sale sign, but has this building been vacant all of this time, or just looking to sell off to someone else?
February 28, 20169 yr So if developers can buy an 11 story public housing tower in Columbus' super-hot Short North, for potential hotel or apartment use (with the rationale for selling being more low-income units with the proceeds), what's stopping CMHA from selling off Ohio City's Riverview Tower, with its fantastic downtown views and center-strip W 25th location??? Moving that property into private hands could be a huge step towards realizing the full W 25th redevelopment potential... (vs being an impediment to it...). http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2016/02/26/exclusive-investor-group-buying-11-story-bollinger.html
February 28, 20169 yr ^why don't poor seniors who have called it home for years deserve great views of downtown?
February 28, 20169 yr I was sort of thinking that, too. But, as for the proposal to turn this highrise into a luxury apartment tower, I see two stumbling blocks. First, I imagine if a hotel chain were interested in the Short North building it would go all out to incorporate its brand into all the remodeling isuch that t those interested in an upscale hotel would be satisfied with the the style and amenities created. It would take a great deal to make Riverview look like luxury, even though I acknowledge that at the time it was built the luxury look for a highrise was not all that different than the look of public housing. Second, could hundreds of well-off individuals really be attracted to a building right on that part of West 25th Street? I realize there are expensive townhouses built right next to a dollar store further up the street, but those only required a few hardy individuals to be interested in purchasing. And they're in the blocks with the good restaurants, etc. This isn't Manhattan, where there can be great diversity within one block.
February 28, 20169 yr This isn't development news, guys. This is speculation of something someone would like to see happen based on something happening somewhere else. Let's get back to actual news.
February 28, 20169 yr That tower is next to a huge housing project anyway. I doubt an investment to turn that tower into luxury apartments would make much money. Until they destroy that housing project in the flats (which I believe has been there for over 50 years), IMO It's not really worth trying to turn that ugly tower into regular apartments.
February 29, 20169 yr That tower is next to a huge housing project anyway. I doubt an investment to turn that tower into luxury apartments would make much money. Until they destroy that housing project in the flats (which I believe has been there for over 50 years), IMO It's not really worth trying to turn that ugly tower into regular apartments. You're mixing up two different towers. Riverview is on 25th and adjacent to the Market District. Lakeview Tower is next to the Lakeview Estates--that one is just north of the Shoreway. Either way, I would not want to see Riverview go away for many reasons. The people who live there are part of the neighborhood.
February 29, 20169 yr That tower is next to a huge housing project anyway. I doubt an investment to turn that tower into luxury apartments would make much money. Until they destroy that housing project in the flats (which I believe has been there for over 50 years), IMO It's not really worth trying to turn that ugly tower into regular apartments. You're mixing up two different towers. Riverview is on 25th and adjacent to the Market District. Lakeview Tower is next to the Lakeview Estates--that one is just north of the Shoreway. Either way, I would not want to see Riverview go away for many reasons. The people who live there are part of the neighborhood. I'd prefer to keep those seniors there, and give them some fresh young neighbors in high rises immediately to the north!
February 29, 20169 yr That tower is next to a huge housing project anyway. I doubt an investment to turn that tower into luxury apartments would make much money. Until they destroy that housing project in the flats (which I believe has been there for over 50 years), IMO It's not really worth trying to turn that ugly tower into regular apartments. You're mixing up two different towers. Riverview is on 25th and adjacent to the Market District. Lakeview Tower is next to the Lakeview Estates--that one is just north of the Shoreway. Either way, I would not want to see Riverview go away for many reasons. The people who live there are part of the neighborhood. I'd prefer to keep those seniors there, and give them some fresh young neighbors in high rises immediately to the north! And build out Riverview to the sidewalk, more storefronts!! Ha, might as well get the imagination rolling.
March 2, 20169 yr More graphics at the link below: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2016/03042016/index.php City Planning Commission Agenda for March 4, 2016 CONSOLIDATIONS/LOT SPLITS For PPNs# 003-25-011 & 003-25-012 Location: 4005-4007 Detroit Avenue Project Representative: Westleigh Harper, Horton Harper Architects "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 2, 20169 yr The Detroit facing units are certainly more desirable looking than those fronting Wheat Ct, the "back" of this group.
March 2, 20169 yr The Detroit facing units are certainly more desirable looking than those fronting Wheat Ct, the "back" of this group. For real. Why not just use the same design?
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