June 16, 20168 yr Exciting to see that white building is due for a residential conversion. Duck Island is on the brink of having potentially 5 major developments under construction in a pretty tight window. Will be fun to watch and interesting to see who can get under construction first.
June 20, 20168 yr Exciting to see that white building is due for a residential conversion. Duck Island is on the brink of having potentially 5 major developments under construction in a pretty tight window. Will be fun to watch and interesting to see who can get under construction first. What are the other projects? Brickmans and what else?
June 22, 20168 yr More graphics of landscaping details at: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2016/06232016/index.php Case 16-036 Ohio City Historic District Snavely Development and Brick Masterson Park 2500 Detroit Avenue Landscaping and Site Improvements "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 26, 20168 yr Geis apartment project on Clinton that received so much push back is well underway... Also alot of progress made on the apartment project on Detroit...
June 27, 20168 yr Does anyone know the history of 2628 Detroit? That's such an interesting building to me with the wood detail on the second level and I wonder what it was used for in the past and why it's been vacant for so long.
June 28, 20168 yr Does anyone know the history of 2628 Detroit? That's such an interesting building to me with the wood detail on the second level and I wonder what it was used for in the past and why it's been vacant for so long. Was wondering the same thing. Did some asking around with no luck. Managed to grab a couple bricks from it when they knocked the windows out ealier in the spring for what i assumed was asbestos removal.
June 29, 20168 yr Love this pre-Civil War mansion! Sanford House, an 1860s brick house on Franklin Boulevard in Cleveland's Ohio City neighborhood. Now vacant, the house has served as a juvenile detention facility, a school for disabled children, a nursing home and, most recently, part of Cuyahoga County's archives. Welcome House, a nonprofit group, plans to renovate the building for small-business or nonprofit offices and four market-rate apartments, as part of a larger project that might kick off next year. The neighboring Rhodes mansion, which Cuyahoga County is still using as archive space, is slated to become 24 subsidized apartments for adults with developmental disabilities. More: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2016/06/joseph_feiss_factory_revamp_7.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 29, 20168 yr Love this pre-Civil War mansion! Sanford House, an 1860s brick house on Franklin Boulevard in Cleveland's Ohio City neighborhood. Now vacant, the house has served as a juvenile detention facility, a school for disabled children, a nursing home and, most recently, part of Cuyahoga County's archives. Welcome House, a nonprofit group, plans to renovate the building for small-business or nonprofit offices and four market-rate apartments, as part of a larger project that might kick off next year. The neighboring Rhodes mansion, which Cuyahoga County is still using as archive space, is slated to become 24 subsidized apartments for adults with developmental disabilities. More: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2016/06/joseph_feiss_factory_revamp_7.html Quick FYI: looks like the posted link is the J&F story in the stockyards thread, not the mansion story. Sorry; didn't see the other projects in the article, was concentrating on the J&F building.
June 29, 20168 yr Love this pre-Civil War mansion! Sanford House, an 1860s brick house on Franklin Boulevard in Cleveland's Ohio City neighborhood. Now vacant, the house has served as a juvenile detention facility, a school for disabled children, a nursing home and, most recently, part of Cuyahoga County's archives. Welcome House, a nonprofit group, plans to renovate the building for small-business or nonprofit offices and four market-rate apartments, as part of a larger project that might kick off next year. The neighboring Rhodes mansion, which Cuyahoga County is still using as archive space, is slated to become 24 subsidized apartments for adults with developmental disabilities. More: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2016/06/joseph_feiss_factory_revamp_7.html Quick FYI: looks like the posted link is the J&F story in the stockyards thread, not the mansion story. The article contains multiple projects that were approved for tax credits, including the mansion. Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk
June 29, 20168 yr Hard to believe the'll actually rebuild the porches, but it would make a big difference if done right. Both former houses look cruddy now.
June 29, 20168 yr Hard to believe the'll actually rebuild the porches, but it would make a big difference if done right. Both former houses look cruddy now. I wouldn't hold your breath, they won't be done right. Edited to add: The type of firm that they have hired or will hire to chop that place up will almost certainly not be qualified to design a historically accurate porch.
June 29, 20168 yr FWIW, the state/feds are also going to have a say on how any porch reconstruction looks, due to the tax credits.
June 30, 20168 yr Hard to believe the'll actually rebuild the porches, but it would make a big difference if done right. Both former houses look cruddy now. I wouldn't hold your breath, they won't be done right. Edited to add: The type of firm that they have hired or will hire to chop that place up will almost certainly not be qualified to design a historically accurate porch. Why so defeatist? Is there something about the recent historical redevelopments in Ohio City that makes you so skeptical? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 30, 20168 yr I'm not certain what to expect here; the illustrations don't give the required detail. But most of the restorations of Ohio City are privately owned houses. This will be institutional; those working with the plans may well not have the same preservation ethic as a homeowner who really wanted to be in historic Ohio City for his or her home.
June 30, 20168 yr More developments near Lorain in the West 40s.... NEAR WEST DESIGN REVIEW NW2016-025 – Townhomes @ West 48th Street New Construction: Seeking Final Approval Project Location: West 48th Street and Bridge Avenue Project Representative: Michael DeCesare, Case Development NW2016-023 – Lorain Court Townhomes New Construction: Seeking Final Approval Project Address: 4195 Lorain Court Project Representatives: Gillian Hall, BR Knez Construction Tony Naughton, BR Knez Construction Dave Jansen, RSA Architects "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 30, 20168 yr Hard to believe the'll actually rebuild the porches, but it would make a big difference if done right. Both former houses look cruddy now. I wouldn't hold your breath, they won't be done right. Edited to add: The type of firm that they have hired or will hire to chop that place up will almost certainly not be qualified to design a historically accurate porch. Why so defeatist? Is there something about the recent historical redevelopments in Ohio City that makes you so skeptical? I think there is something wrong with the redevelopments in Ohio City in general. I think most of it is poorly designed and poorly built and will ultimately not stand the test of time. Throw spot zoning and special favors shown for special developers in and you just have a crap mix. I've never been an advocate of development for the sake of development. I would rather see an area develop and infill with higher quality developments over a longer period of time than really quickly with shoddy quality.
July 3, 20168 yr These fields along Chatham, I know they're owned and maintained by the school, but does anyone know why they're keeping them? As great of an anchor the school is, it creates such a disconnect and really a dead zone here. I'm sure if they offered them up, a developer would snatch them up for a pretty penny. I could see some nice townhouses put in here. Then the neighborhood gets filled in and connected, and the school receives a nice penny and doesn't have the long term maintenance anymore. As it is right now, we have the west side equivalent of the Clinic's lawns.
July 3, 20168 yr These fields along Chatham, I know they're owned and maintained by the school, but does anyone know why they're keeping them? As great of an anchor the school is, it creates such a disconnect and really a dead zone here. I'm sure if they offered them up, a developer would snatch them up for a pretty penny. I could see some nice townhouses put in here. Then the neighborhood gets filled in and connected, and the school receives a nice penny and doesn't have the long term maintenance anymore. As it is right now, we have the west side equivalent of the Clinic's lawns. Most of the houses on those fields weren't actually torn down until the mid-90s, including at least one set of row homes. They were torn down specifically to provide practice athletic fields for the school. Ignatius used to have carte blanche to do what they wanted, demo-wise. A LOT came down in that period.
July 3, 20168 yr These fields along Chatham, I know they're owned and maintained by the school, but does anyone know why they're keeping them? As great of an anchor the school is, it creates such a disconnect and really a dead zone here. I'm sure if they offered them up, a developer would snatch them up for a pretty penny. I could see some nice townhouses put in here. Then the neighborhood gets filled in and connected, and the school receives a nice penny and doesn't have the long term maintenance anymore. As it is right now, we have the west side equivalent of the Clinic's lawns. They're still used often (a couple times a week at least, I'd imagine) by athletic teams and after school programs for neighborhood kids. In the summer, they have summer camps. As an alum who wouldn't mind seeing them sell some of that (or the parking lots), I don't see them getting rid of them unless they start to really hurt financially and a developer makes an offer that they can't refuse (likely not happening). If they ever wish to add buildings (Which I personally doubt, what else is there to add, frankly), this land is sitting there for them (and being used productively in their eyes), they know they wouldn't be able to expand north or east, and land values in the immediate area will not decrease anytime soon. IIRC, track and field (north of Lorain) is open to the public when it's not in use although that's likely a very limited window of irregular hours...
July 4, 20168 yr Better Ignatius retain the land for possible future expansion than buy up currently residential properties and demolish still more historic houses or commercial buildings in the area. Also, of course, school administration may be afraid exactly what might be built so close to them were they to sell the land.
July 4, 20168 yr I heard a couple years ago that there was talk of building a football stadium for Ignatius. I don't know if any talk has progressed on that.
July 4, 20168 yr If a big donor comes along they'll probably do it. Stadium was studied a few years ago and then shelved. Not likely at all in the future. That field on Chatham is due to be turfed with a new locker room structure sometime in the next year or so. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
July 4, 20168 yr I don't really see where they'd fit a stadium in without more neighborhood demo. I'd be happy to see anything built there though, whether it be from the school or private developers. Either would be better than grass. On closer look, it appears the school at least doesn't own the field between W31st and W32nd, so hopefully something comes along there soon :-)
July 4, 20168 yr On closer look, it appears the school at least doesn't own the field between W31st and W32nd, so hopefully something comes along there soon :-) They do own it.
July 4, 20168 yr On closer look, it appears the school at least doesn't own the field between W31st and W32nd, so hopefully something comes along there soon :-) They do own it. There are only a hand full of properties St. Ignatius does not yet own on the east side of W. 32nd, and north side of Chatham Ave. It is only a matter of time before they will. Who knows what their future plans are. St. Ignatius is a blessing/curse for OC. It's great for the vibrancy in brings during the school year, special events, neighborhood involvement. But a curse with its demolition of a large section of OC in that area. I know many of the homes it bought/demolished were not worth saving, but many were.
July 4, 20168 yr On closer look, it appears the school at least doesn't own the field between W31st and W32nd, so hopefully something comes along there soon :-) They do own it. Is that recent? I'm just going off of Google maps, which doesn't have that area colored for institutional use as they do the rest of St Ignatius. And if that's the case, that raises even more questions for me as to why they're still buying up property when they already have so much vacant land.
July 4, 20168 yr On closer look, it appears the school at least doesn't own the field between W31st and W32nd, so hopefully something comes along there soon :-) They do own it. Is that recent? I'm just going off of Google maps, which doesn't have that area colored for institutional use as they do the rest of St Ignatius. And if that's the case, that raises even more questions for me as to why they're still buying up property when they already have so much vacant land. It was Providence House property and they had plans to use it for a future project, but those plans changed and they decided to unload it. They offered it sell it to the school. The school didn't seek it out, but they also weren't about to turn it down.
July 4, 20168 yr On closer look, it appears the school at least doesn't own the field between W31st and W32nd, so hopefully something comes along there soon :-) They do own it. There are only a hand full of properties St. Ignatius does not yet own on the east side of W. 32nd, and north side of Chatham Ave. It is only a matter of time before they will. Who knows what their future plans are. St. Ignatius is a blessing/curse for OC. It's great for the vibrancy in brings during the school year, special events, neighborhood involvement. But a curse with its demolition of a large section of OC in that area. I know many of the homes it bought/demolished were not worth saving, but many were. Yet Ignatius stayed in Ohio City when everyone else fled. Forced all those suburban kids to come into dangerous Ohio City, especially in the days of using the train or bus was the popular method of getting there. If Ignatius fled the area for an outlying location it would have been criticized for abandoning Cleveland/Ohio City. No one wanted to live in Cleveland let alone Ohio City. So to Monday-morning quarterback about a committee institution like St Ignatius that is demolished properties that need to be or not is misplaced. Do you remember what Lorain/25th west to Ignatius looked like before Ignatius expanded? I would guess not given your comments.
July 8, 20168 yr Anyone know what's going on with Hansa Haus brewing? This is the most recent news I could find: http://www.ohio.com/blogs/the-beer-blog/the-beer-blog-1.273124/dear-rick-1.672013
July 8, 20168 yr ^I asked at the store a few weeks ago and the person at the register told me they are waiting for permits/licensing stuff but should be brewing soon.
July 8, 20168 yr ^I asked at the store a few weeks ago and the person at the register told me they are waiting for permits/licensing stuff but should be brewing soon. That's right. They have the state permit, but the city is sllllllloooooowwwwwww........
July 8, 20168 yr Anyone know what's going on with Hansa Haus brewing? This is the most recent news I could find: http://www.ohio.com/blogs/the-beer-blog/the-beer-blog-1.273124/dear-rick-1.672013 Dude, you stole my thunder. 2 Saturdays ago after the Cavs Parade, I was over in OC and noticed that HHB still hadn't opened and I wondered: what the hell is going on? I'm still looking forward to it's (eventual) opening, but somebody with the City obviously is dragging his/her feet --- to the tune of umpteen lost $$$$ while the owners wait.
July 8, 20168 yr Was the city permit policies the same reason why the brewery in North Collinwood was never able to open? What was it called...Waterloo Brew? If we need the convo here, feel free: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=30589.0
July 11, 20168 yr Waterloo Brew was unable to brew, because of laws stating that a brewery owner may not also operate a bar more than 1 mile away from the brewery. Alan Glazen owns multiple bars far away, ABC, XYZ, etc. and thusly was not allowed to operate a brewery as well. The law is antiquated, but was intended to prevent the big guys, Bud, Miller, etc from owning bars and bullying the competition.
July 11, 20168 yr Waterloo Brew was unable to brew, because of laws stating that a brewery owner may not also operate a bar more than 1 mile away from the brewery. Alan Glazen owns multiple bars far away, ABC, XYZ, etc. and thusly was not allowed to operate a brewery as well. The law is antiquated, but was intended to prevent the big guys, Bud, Miller, etc from owning bars and bullying the competition. Is this a city or state law? The law certainly has very good intentions. How does it work for companies like platform which is opening a bar in Columbus? Is platform brewing in Columbus as well? I assume this law requires brewing at both places if they have the same owner and more than one mile apart from each other. (feel free to move this to the beer thread that Murray Hill linked above)
July 11, 20168 yr ^Interesting. Doesn't the owner of Butcher and a Brewer own Tremont Taphouse? Or is that less than a mil as the crow flies?
July 11, 20168 yr Nice little development but I'm not sure it warrants a full article. Must be a slow news cycle... Hot Hingetown set to get six new apartments July 10, 2016 UPDATED 8 HOURS AGO By STAN BULLARD Progenitors of the Hingetown area, which rejuvenated West 29th Street north of Detroit Ave. in Ohio City with trendy shops and businesses, are on the move again. Through Hingetown LLC, videographer turned real estate developer Graham Veysey and his wife, Marika Shioiri Clark, have acquired the Schaefer Printing Co. building at 2817 Detroit Ave. with plans to convert its upper two floors to six apartments. Schaefer sold the building to Hingetown for $500,000 on June 22, according to Cuyahoga County land records. The printing company will remain as a tenant on the first floor, Veysey said in an interview. MORE: http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20160710/NEWS/160709833/hot-hingetown-set-to-get-six-new-apartments "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 11, 20168 yr Nice little development but I'm not sure it warrants a full article. Must be a slow news cycle... Hot Hingetown set to get six new apartments July 10, 2016 UPDATED 8 HOURS AGO By STAN BULLARD Progenitors of the Hingetown area, which rejuvenated West 29th Street north of Detroit Ave. in Ohio City with trendy shops and businesses, are on the move again. Through Hingetown LLC, videographer turned real estate developer Graham Veysey and his wife, Marika Shioiri Clark, have acquired the Schaefer Printing Co. building at 2817 Detroit Ave. with plans to convert its upper two floors to six apartments. Schaefer sold the building to Hingetown for $500,000 on June 22, according to Cuyahoga County land records. The printing company will remain as a tenant on the first floor, Veysey said in an interview. MORE: http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20160710/NEWS/160709833/hot-hingetown-set-to-get-six-new-apartments Unfortunately it sounds like the first floor 1980's facade will remain as is.
July 12, 20168 yr re: waterloo brew, I think this is where I found it: Glazen and business partners Randy Kelly and Linda Syrek had planned to open a brewery here, but were forced to close in February due to a Cleveland ordinance that stipulates that a brewer cannot also operate a bar more than a mile away from the brewery. Keeping Waterloo Brew open would have meant closing their existing venues, which they didn’t want to do. http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20151106/BLOGS16/151109787/new-venues-add-jolt-to-waterloo-arts-district
July 17, 20168 yr More graphics at: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2016/07142016/index.php Cleveland Landmarks Commission AGENDA - July 14, 2016 Case 15-075 Ohio City Historic District 4011-19 Bridge Ave., Randall Rd., 4200 Fulton Ct. Demolition and New Construction "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 17, 20168 yr More graphics at: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2016/07142016/index.php Cleveland Landmarks Commission AGENDA - July 14, 2016 Case 16-040 Ohio City Historic District 4504-14 Clinton Avenue, Wheat Court New Construction of Townhouses "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 17, 20168 yr ^Love the old school, Victorian look of these buildings. They will slide right in with the Ohio City architectural look... Can't completely tell by the photos, but will the middle building be sheathed in brick?
July 18, 20168 yr I like the fact that things are being built, but siding once again? It seems that NE Ohio just can't break free of the siding mentality on new construction. I was recently in Columbus, which I haven't been to in some time, and took a stroll down Gay St. The townhomes I saw right near downtown were gorgeous! Brick with an actual front stoop. My wife, being born and raised in Queens NY agreed. It just looks so much nicer and urban. But then again, that is just my opinion.
July 18, 20168 yr I like the fact that things are being built, but siding once again? It seems that NE Ohio just can't break free of the siding mentality on new construction. I was recently in Columbus, which I haven't been to in some time, and took a stroll down Gay St. The townhomes I saw right near downtown were gorgeous! Brick with an actual front stoop. My wife, being born and raised in Queens NY agreed. It just looks so much nicer and urban. But then again, that is just my opinion. Especially with rising real estate sale prices.
July 18, 20168 yr Is this project supposed to have a composite siding or vinyl (euphonism for plastic)? Composite is closer to actual wood, anyway. I suppose some are still using aluminum. Of course, real wood is the best if these. Ideally, wood, brick, or stone. It would also be great to forego the fake muntins, but I suppose that's just too, too much to expect.
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