If it's happening anywhere in Cleveland, then it's probably happening in Ohio City (or University Circle). It seems like those two areas are accounting for perhaps half of the building permits in the entire city....

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2017/01122017/index.php

 

1.

Case 17-001

Lorain Avenue Historic District

West Side Catholic Center  3135 Lorain Avenue

Building Addition, Entrances, Signage

Ward 3

McCormack

Christine Raymond

Kaczmar Architects

2.

Case 17-002

Lorain Avenue Historic District

West Side Catholic Center  3209 Lorain Avenue

Elevator Addition

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5.

Case 17-005

Ohio City Historic District

2885 Detroit Avenue

Signs and Spent Grain Tank for Saucy Brew Works

 

 

 

My secret wish is that with the catholic center building a new addition, maybe they can lease their storefronts along Lorain out to market rate businesses as the development pushes west. I know that's not their business model, but might be a lucrative money maker.

 

Props to them for taking such great care of their buildings, but I'd rather see those spaces put to active use promoting walkability

Taking advantage of a couple days with above average temps, the addition for the new Erie Social Shuffleboard building is nearly framed out.

Knez purchase could signal more Ohio City development

 

A suburban homebuilder buying the landmark Bodnar funeral home building in the Ohio City neighborhood of Cleveland signals another potential change for lower Lorain Avenue: new residential development.

 

Although Concord-based builder Bo Knez confirms his Triban Investment LLC owns the property, 3929 Lorain Avenue, he is not ready to discuss what he hopes to do with it.

 

Cuyahoga County land records show Triban on Jan. 6 paid $700,000 for the building. The structure sits on a sea of parking about a half-acre in size, which is huge in the context of an urban neighborhood.

 

However, his B.R. Knez Construction has been busy building single-family homes just south of Lorain. Significantly, a few hundred feet north of Lorain, Knez through Howard Hanna is marketing Greenbriar, a city-approved 11-unit townhouse project with properties costing upwards of $300,000. Part of the site is at 4019 Bridge Avenue, and part of it is on the east side of Randall Road, which becomes West 41st Street south of Lorain.

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20170115/NEWS/170119858/knez-purchase-could-signal-more-ohio-city-development

Knez mostly just does single family housing, no? I hope that's not the case for the Bodnar funeral home site. We really need some density and active retail there.

Concerning Greenbrier, I looked quickly from the north yesterday and the house facing Randall looked pretty nice - at least on the side.  Does that have to go? There are the two poor-looking houses onBridge (I know - the age of at least one came up here).

Concerning Greenbrier, I looked quickly from the north yesterday and the house facing Randall looked pretty nice - at least on the side.  Does that have to go? There are the two poor-looking houses onBridge (I know - the age of at least one came up here).

 

I think the house on Randall is remaining - at least that's how I interpret the site plan.

 

http://www.knez.net/neighborhoods/greenbrier-mews-7084 (pgs 8-9)

I must have missed something... what is Snavely building at the corner of W25 and Detroit? I knew there were some renovations happening in that area but yesterday I saw a very big dig that I wasn't expecting.

I must have missed something... what is Snavely building at the corner of W25 and Detroit? I knew there were some renovations happening in that area but yesterday I saw a very big dig that I wasn't expecting.

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20161003/NEWS/161009955/funds-put-in-place-for-60-million-ohio-city-mixed-use-project

I must have missed something... what is Snavely building at the corner of W25 and Detroit? I knew there were some renovations happening in that area but yesterday I saw a very big dig that I wasn't expecting.

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20161003/NEWS/161009955/funds-put-in-place-for-60-million-ohio-city-mixed-use-project

 

Another article:

 

Construction starts on $60 million mixed-use project in Cleveland's Ohio City (photos)

 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cleveland.com/articles/19404296/construction_starts_on_60_mill.amp

Backhoes showed up yesterday  on W. 47th between Bridge and Franklin to dig a foundation for a new house.

3219 Detroit Ave six-story apartment building going vertical, seen today from fast-moving Clifton BRT-lite on the Shoreway...

 

 

This has to be the slowest-rising six-story building in history. A year later and they still have not fully enclosed the top floor yet.

327, see these posts and others posted around this time...

 

This development looks amazing.

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2015/06192015/index.php

 

More graphics of landscaping details at:

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2016/06232016/index.php

 

Case 16-036

Ohio City Historic District

Snavely Development and Brick Masterson Park

2500 Detroit Avenue

Landscaping and Site Improvements

 

 

 

 

3219 Detroit Ave six-story apartment building going vertical, seen today from fast-moving Clifton BRT-lite on the Shoreway...

 

 

This has to be the slowest-rising six-story building in history. A year later and they still have not fully enclosed the top floor yet.

Haha...I was just thinking the same thing. We basically have an entirely new neighborhood a couple of blocks away in the time it's taken this building.

This is at the bend in West 25th Street near the Nestlé plant....

 

Board of Zoning Appeals

February 13, 2017

9:30

Calendar No. 17-006: 2554 West 25 Street Ward 3

Kerry McCormack

19 Notices

Colombo Enterprises, owner, proposes to erect a four story, 55,117 square foot, 60 units’ supportive

housing apartment building with accessory offices in a C1 and C2 Semi-Industry District. The owner

appeals for relief from the strict application of the following sections of the Cleveland Codified

Ordinances:

1. Section 345.03(b) which states that no multiple dwelling is permitted in a Semi-Industry

District if located within 200 feet of General Industry District and the proposed use abuts a

General Industry District.

2. Section 349.04(a)(g) which states that one accessory off-street parking space is required for

each dwelling unit and one space per 500 square feet of office space: 60 spaces for dwelling

units and 10 spaces for offices are required, 32 accessory off-street parking spaces are

provided.

3. Section 355.04(b) which states that the maximum gross floor area of a residential building in a

“C’ area district is limited to ½ the lot size. In this case a 23,017 square foot building is

permitted and a 55,063 square foot building is proposed.

4. Section 353.01(b) which states that in a “1” height district the height of the building is limited

to 35 feet where a portion of the proposed building is approximately 46 feet.

5. Section 341.02(b) which states that City Planning Approval is required for a new residential

development. (Filed January 6, 2017)

Steve Litt on Irishtown Bend progress... Would love to see this asset in the neighborhood.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2017/02/port_hires_design_team_to_envi.html#incart_river_home

Steve Litt on Irishtown Bend progress... Would love to see this asset in the neighborhood.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2017/02/port_hires_design_team_to_envi.html#incart_river_home

 

Has anyone heard if they are still doing archaeological excavations of the area? I would LOVE to see potential updates if possible.

I know I'm in the minority, but I'd much rather see dense development built on 25th than lightly used greenspace. There is room for apartments on the sidewalk and green terraces behind, accessible from a rebuilt Riverbed Rd. I look at the plans and just see a huge disconnect between the Market Garden area and Detroit.

My understanding is that some of the stability issues are caused by building weight on top of the hill, preventing construction there without huge expense.  It is definitely a large space and I agree will create a vacuum if its just another large greenspace.  However, I think it can work if the park is designed to be very active. 

 

Think about slides in the summer and a sledding hill in the winter, a Zipline or ropes course.  It's a cool chance to do an make an urban "mountain" activity center.

I know I'm in the minority, but I'd much rather see dense development built on 25th than lightly used greenspace. There is room for apartments on the sidewalk and green terraces behind, accessible from a rebuilt Riverbed Rd. I look at the plans and just see a huge disconnect between the Market Garden area and Detroit.

 

Agree. I think some renderings showing new construction that fosters more business growth AND preserves access to the park (and its views) could easily change peoples minds.

I know I'm in the minority, but I'd much rather see dense development built on 25th than lightly used greenspace. There is room for apartments on the sidewalk and green terraces behind, accessible from a rebuilt Riverbed Rd. I look at the plans and just see a huge disconnect between the Market Garden area and Detroit.

 

Agree. I think some renderings showing new construction that fosters more business growth AND preserves access to the park (and its views) could easily change peoples minds.

 

Also agree, but there's a chance that nothing can be safely built on these parcels.  Isn't the subsidence risk pretty severe?  Besides, this stretch of road is almost a lost cause until something can be built along that Lutheran parking lot.  Feels like 1/2 mile when you're walking past it.

With the stability issues here and the amount of money it would cost for full stabilization (i forget the figure that has been thrown out there, but its a lot) its hard to complain about a well designed park. And the narrowing of 25th is a win win.

But lets play devil's advocate... Its 12 years in the fiture and the west side of 25th is about fully built out. There is a lot of money being thrown around and a few developers want to fully stabilize the hill side out of pocket and build right along 25th leaving a majority the hillside a park. Does the neighborhood stop this project becuase they can't imagine anything but a17 acre park there and dont want the views blocked? Or are we happy the park idea actually spured the private investment to finally stabilize irish town bend and welcome the development?

With the stability issues here and the amount of money it would cost for full stabilization (i forget the figure that has been thrown out there, but its a lot) its hard to complain about a well designed park. And the narrowing of 25th is a win win.

But lets play devil's advocate... Its 12 years in the fiture and the west side of 25th is about fully built out. There is a lot of money being thrown around and a few developers want to fully stabilize the hill side out of pocket and build right along 25th leaving a majority the hillside a park. Does the neighborhood stop this project becuase they can't imagine anything but a17 acre park there and dont want the views blocked? Or are we happy the park idea actually spured the private investment to finally stabilize irish town bend and welcome the development?

 

I could see new residents west side of 25th react with NIMFY (Not in my front yard) sentiments. You see this happen everywhere, nobody wants their views blocked.

 

Agree that the narrowing of the street is a huge gain. Much needed. There was recent plans floating around that made this stretch of W25 look like a 45mph ODOT wet dream.

It's my understanding that the structures on top of the hillside now are part of the current stability problem. I don't think we'll be seeing new construction there. With the park though I expect that will speed up conversion of the buildings on the west side of 25th, and construction on the parking lots as the story mentioned.

 

As far as redesigning the road through that stretch, I don't understand why they didn't include the aspects being discussed now when they redesigned and repaved it just last year. Though its bad, its not as bad as they describe it - no idea where its 7 lanes...

It's my understanding that the structures on top of the hillside now are part of the current stability problem. I don't think we'll be seeing new construction there. With the park though I expect that will speed up conversion of the buildings on the west side of 25th, and construction on the parking lots as the story mentioned.

 

As far as redesigning the road through that stretch, I don't understand why they didn't include the aspects being discussed now when they redesigned and repaved it just last year. Though its bad, its not as bad as they describe it - no idea where its 7 lanes...

 

Where the old streetcar ramp into the Detroit-Superior subway was located in the middle of the street.

With the stability issues here and the amount of money it would cost for full stabilization (i forget the figure that has been thrown out there, but its a lot) its hard to complain about a well designed park. And the narrowing of 25th is a win win.

But lets play devil's advocate... Its 12 years in the fiture and the west side of 25th is about fully built out. There is a lot of money being thrown around and a few developers want to fully stabilize the hill side out of pocket and build right along 25th leaving a majority the hillside a park. Does the neighborhood stop this project becuase they can't imagine anything but a17 acre park there and dont want the views blocked? Or are we happy the park idea actually spured the private investment to finally stabilize irish town bend and welcome the development?

 

I'd love to see some light (1-2 story) development along that strip of W. 25th, if possible -- but still keeping the park largely open to the street and pedestrians. I think the community and 25th would stand to gain from the park, rather than resent the "blocked" development opportunity down the road. I'm picturing a counterpart to Merwin's Wharf or some other retail / recreation options that complement the public space. There's still other places to build big along 25th and in the Flats, so I don't see the point in sinking all the development dollars into trying to fix the unstable land.

I doubt that developers would pay $49 million to stabilize the hillside.

I am not able to find the study, but the hillside is extremely unstable. It's basically an unbuildable plat of land without extensive stabilization and retaining walls.

Increase the city/county population by a few hundred thousand again, and I bet that hillside becomes less of an issue to a developer or for the city to tackle.  Having said that, I think the park is a great solution.

It's my understanding that the structures on top of the hillside now are part of the current stability problem. I don't think we'll be seeing new construction there. With the park though I expect that will speed up conversion of the buildings on the west side of 25th, and construction on the parking lots as the story mentioned.

 

As far as redesigning the road through that stretch, I don't understand why they didn't include the aspects being discussed now when they redesigned and repaved it just last year. Though its bad, its not as bad as they describe it - no idea where its 7 lanes...

 

Where the old streetcar ramp into the Detroit-Superior subway was located in the middle of the street.

 

Ah yes I see now on the look back on Google Street View that it use to be 7 lanes through there before last year. Its down to 5 now that they put in bike lanes with the buffer striping on the wrong side... Baby steps I guess. I didn't realize the streetcar came up on 25th too. I would love to see one run down that street again.

Post moved to:

 

https://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,653.msg840441.html#msg840441

^just a technicality--this is in Detroit Shoreway. North of Franklin, the west side of 48th is in D-S and is not in a landmarks district.

Ok thanks. I'll repost in the D-S thread.

Well this is obviously great news and thnx to mjarboe[/member] for keeping us informed.  I only wish there was more urgency to take down those buildings.  At least it's finally happening.

 

Ohio City park plan, at Irishtown Bend, gets legs with Clean Ohio grant to buy, clear land

 

http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2017/02/ohio_city_park_plan_at_irishto.html#incart_river_home

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2017/crr02-27-2017.pdf

 

Board of Zoning Appeals

FEBRUARY 27, 2017

9:30

Calendar No. 17-026: 1550 West 25 Street Ward 3

Kerry McCormack

14 Notices

25th Market Realty LLC., owner, and 1550 West 25th LLC., prospective purchaser propose to renovate

existing building and change use to retail and restaurant in a D3 Local Retail Business District. The

prospective purchaser appeals for relief from the following sections of the Cleveland Codified

Ordinances:

1. Sections 349.04(e) and (f) which state that 84 total parking spaces are required. However, per

zoning code section 343.23(i) the required parking can be reduced by one-third in a Pedestrian

Retail Overlay District therefore 56 parking spaces required.

2. Section 343.23(g)(2) which states that no portion of an interior side yard located within forty

(40) feet of a Pedestrian Retail Street Frontage shall exceed four (4) feet in width on the

ground floor level, unless the City Planning Commission has approved a driveway or a

residential side yard in such location as Conditional use. Proposed renovation will actually

increase width of already nonconforming side yard. (Filed January 27, 2017)

 

^ YES! another building being cleaned up. This one is the biggest eyesore along this stretch. Once this one is done, that will only leave the three buildings between the W25th Lofts and the Snavely project (btw, is there an actual name for this one yet?). Everything else between Market Square and the Shoreway will have been renovated, or in plans to be demoed for the new park.

Finally coming along.

Finally coming along.

 

Yes.  I walked by there Saturday on that 'summer' afternoon and it looks like the place is close to opening.  I was impressed by the increased foot traffic along W.25 south of Lorain.  The businesses south of this new taco place appear to be doing very well, including the tiny "Passengers Cafe" inside the Cleveland Hostel... It sure would be nice if that ugly parking lot between the taco restaurant and the historic building adjacent to the United Bank building could be developed... It's large enough for a substantial mixed-use apartment-over-retail development, and would fit nicely into the still burgeoning Market Square district.  The furniture store next to the Hostel has been shuttered; are there any plans for this space?  It's pretty large.

Bakersfield - announced Sept 2014 to open in 2015... Can't believe it ended up opening after all that time ..

 

http://m.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2014/09/15/popular-bakersfield-tacos-to-plant-its-flag-in-ohio-city

^Bakersfield,... thanks; I can stop calling it that taco place.

Sam Allard‏@SceneSallard 18h18 hours ago

 

On Franklin Clinton Block Club agenda this eve: new Hingetown Graham Veysey project: "Project 29" - 2 blgds, 184 units, 20Ksqft retail.

 

https://twitter.com/SceneSallard

 

For reference:

http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/the-growing-pains-of-clevelands-newest-westside-neighborhood/Content?oid=4670345&showFullText=true

 

With all the apartment developments popping up near the West Shoreway, I figured it was time for RTA to undertake a small-scale investment to tap into them....

 

https://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,4446.msg841952.html#msg841952

Bakersfield - announced Sept 2014 to open in 2015... Can't believe it ended up opening after all that time ..

 

http://m.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2014/09/15/popular-bakersfield-tacos-to-plant-its-flag-in-ohio-city

I'm seeing now someone posted last June at Cleveland meeting agenda that listed the renovation of the former Fulton Riad Bakery building.  I don't think it's been started, though.  Does anyone know what's going on with that projeect? As I said above, the building really does look bad - amid a bunch of restored/renovated buildings that look great!

Also looks like they're not demolishing the historic red brick building at the corner of West 28th and Detroit that was most recently used by Schaefer Industries...

 

Hingetown LLC Schaefer printing by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

The redevelopment of that building into 6 apartments was already announced, with the printing company staying as a tenant.

The redevelopment of that building into 6 apartments was already announced, with the printing company staying as a tenant.

 

Ah, THAT was the building with the 6 apartments. Got it. Thanks.

I really hope this proposal retains most of its form and doesn't end up losing five floors and ending up with some cheaper type of cladding.

I really hope this proposal retains most of its form and doesn't end up losing five floors and ending up with some cheaper type of cladding.

 

Short Northing, I think that's what it's called.

 

So glad to see the original building retained. This is the right kind of development.

If I remember from the ins and outs of this, the Schaeffer Printing facade is also staying. Silver glass brick and all. 

Ohio City apartment proposal would fill gap along Detroit Avenue

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio - A pair of Ohio City parking lots is earmarked for a mixed-use project called the Church and State apartments, as part of a broader push to build up major corridors west of downtown Cleveland while preserving houses at the heart of the neighborhood.

 

http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2017/02/ohio_city_apartment_proposal_w.html#incart_river_home_pop

I know it's personal taste but I really hate that Jenga/building blocks stuff.  It's going to look very dated within ten years, certainly no more than 20.

 

To the point that I actually hope Nucleus either does not go through or is radically redesigned.