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    Ohio City Hotel at Landmarks today for schematic. Announced it'll be a Marriott Tribute Portfolio hotel and it's formal name is Ohio City Hotel. This project is so exciting and we are lucky to have Da

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It looks like they are putting the trees where the open views should be along W. 25th St., and the open views where the trees should be down along the riverfront.  I'd like to see some more natural habitat lining the river's edge.

Edit: never mind.  said something without reading the article first

As for the building catty-corner to Spaces, I believe a workman told me it's going to be yet another beer place - perhaps a brewery.

Its Saucy Brewery....set to open in July!

Two very exciting proposals for Irishtown Bend.

 

I'd like to see the lots along W25th kept on the tax rolls; they should be valuable lots. Somebody has to pay for the park.  There could be a gap or two for park access.

 

 

Remember: It's the Year of the Snake

  The west side of the building has been painted a sleek black  - seems imho a little too sophisticated for a boxing establishment. Sure wish they'd break ground for that new apartment complex between W. 28th and W. 29th, which includes the eleven-story tower.  I hope they don't let the whole summer go - let alone entire year - without at least breaking ground!  :-(

I really like the proposals for Irish Town Bend. Both proposals have strengths that I hope they combine and utilize in the final design. I like the way the first design interacts with W. 25th Street (particularly the "entry plazas" at Detroit and Franklin). I also love the amphitheater and terraced farming in the second design. And I'm a huge fan of how they are planning to re-position Franklin so that it will once again become a continuous street with a 4-way intersection at W. 25th.

^^The facade on that side isn't finished yet, and 75% of the building is dedicated to the brewery.

  The west side of the building has been painted a sleek black  - seems imho a little too sophisticated for a boxing establishment. Sure wish they'd break ground for that new apartment complex between W. 28th and W. 29th, which includes the eleven-story tower.  I hope they don't let the whole summer go - let alone entire year - without at least breaking ground!  :-(

 

I don't believe this project is even close to beginning (if even a 100% sure thing...is financing in place?).  I don't believe is has been through design review yet.  It certainly will not start this summer and I doubt this year.

^It went in front of design review on 5/11, not sure of the outcome.  I do know they are hoping to break ground late 2017. 

^Just re-read Michelle's PD article regarding the project and it stated that if all approvals went smoothly the developers were hoping to break ground in December 2017.  Which means you automatically add 8-12 months if they do have financing.

As for the building catty-corner to Spaces, I believe a workman told me it's going to be yet another beer place - perhaps a brewery.

 

Catty-corner from the old Spaces. 2401 Superior Viaduct. The whole building is being gutted right now.

Oh.  Thanks.

 

I really like the proposals for Irish Town Bend. Both proposals have strengths that I hope they combine and utilize in the final design. I like the way the first design interacts with W. 25th Street (particularly the "entry plazas" at Detroit and Franklin). I also love the amphitheater and terraced farming in the second design. And I'm a huge fan of how they are planning to re-position Franklin so that it will once again become a continuous street with a 4-way intersection at W. 25th.

Do you know for a fact Franklin used to go right across West 25th?  On my old maps it looks like it did so, but I don't know how accurate they are.  After all, all cities seem to have streets with the same name that don't quite connect when crossing another street.

I really like the proposals for Irish Town Bend. Both proposals have strengths that I hope they combine and utilize in the final design. I like the way the first design interacts with W. 25th Street (particularly the "entry plazas" at Detroit and Franklin). I also love the amphitheater and terraced farming in the second design. And I'm a huge fan of how they are planning to re-position Franklin so that it will once again become a continuous street with a 4-way intersection at W. 25th.

Do you know for a fact Franklin used to go right across West 25th?  On my old maps it looks like it did so, but I don't know how accurate they are.  After all, all cities seem to have streets with the same name that don't quite connect when crossing another street.

 

Yes, according to historic maps, Franklin Blvd. intersected at a 4-way intersection at W. 25th (or Pearl St.) since it was first built. The attached pic is from 1951. After 1979, the next available satellite image is from 1979, which shows Franklin Blvd. moved to its current position, which makes me think it was moved during the construction of Riverview.

That's too bad and I hope the intersection reverts to four-way.  Then, I'd like to see Franklin Circle a real circle again!  [and Magnolia Drive in University Circle a single winding drive again, or at least the segment renamed "Juniper" named "Magnolia" once again, on and on....]

Isn't there some level of a community-driven initiative to restore Franklin Circle? Or am I making that up?

I think I've seen something over the years but don't recall any details.  Nothing recently.  That leaves the former circle sort of a hodge-podge.  A Victorian "circle" would add flavor to Ohio City - nothing like that, nor in Tremont.  But Ohio City still has some buildings built for a circle.  Imagine if the circle were there and the vacant lots were filled in with new buildings built for a circle (a la Washington, DC, etc.).  It was announced for a while there would be a "University Circle" again but it never happened.

I don't think so.  In fact, Lutheran sold the circular parking lot on the northwest corner to developer Michael Chesler in May.  $225k for that 23,000 sq ft lot seems like a steal.  He also owns the adjacent parcel along W 28th.

 

Yes, according to historic maps, Franklin Blvd. intersected at a 4-way intersection at W. 25th (or Pearl St.) since it was first built.

 

Pearl St. in Manhattan was named for the abundance of shellfish there, found in the river. It makes me wonder if the "Pearl St." in Ohio City is of similar origin. 

Wouldn't it be awesome if the Kowalski manufacturer were to relocate to a more industrial area of cleveland to free up that land right there on Detroit? With views of the lake? Where all that other development is currently happening?

Wouldn't it be awesome if the Kowalski manufacturer were to relocate to a more industrial area of cleveland to free up that land right there on Detroit? With views of the lake? Where all that other development is currently happening?

 

I frequently check his property records to see if he's sold yet. Not yet....

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

  • 2 weeks later...

The slow train of development:

 

Bad Tom Smith Brewing's Ohio City plans delayed

Updated on June 29, 2017 at 9:10 AM,  Posted on June 29, 2017 at 9:07 AM

By Marc Bona, cleveland.com , mbonaCleveland[/member].com

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio - Delays have pushed back the opening date for Bad Tom Smith Brewing's Ohio City location, said managing partner John Vojtush, who owns the company with his fiancée Sheryl Gittins.

 

The delays are coming in the back-and-forth editing-like process between the brewery and the city's building department, Vojtush said.

 

The process started in early March, when Bad Tom submitted plans to the building department. An inspector took two days to examine the prints, then returned them. The brewery then took a week and a half to amend the prints, and it's been back and forth or in delay mode ever since.

 

All the while, Vojtush and Gittins still have to pay rent. They also have spent $20,000 for work from engineers.

 

"We lost the summer," he said. "I would have loved to have taken advantage of the summer months, but it is what it is."

 

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2017/06/bad_tom_smith_brewings_ohio_ci.html

 

^it says caddy corner to Nano Brew. Wouldn't that be the current location of the Old Angle and ABC?

I think in former home of short-lived hot dog place... weenie-a-go-go or whatever.

^ Thanks. Given the size of that space, I wonder if they will be doing any brewing here or just shipping up from Cincy.

I believe prior article said no brewing on site.

Third floor is going up on Detroit/25th. This one is flying now.

  • 2 weeks later...

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This beautiful TOD proposed by RTA with the permission of the property owner Darrell Young doesn't mean that the property owner had any intention of building anything resembling TOD. Indeed, this week's Landmarks Commission agenda shows he has no interest in replacing his 1980s-era strip shopping center. The roof on that god-awful plaza is being replaced and a new Sherwin Williams store is being added. (FWIW, this is why I don't trust RTA to be the sponsor of NOACA's TOD pilot project at Cudell and get buy-in from private developers)

 

But wouldn't it be interesting if Landmarks Commission disapproved the following requests because it contradicts their earlier vote to support the TOD land use plan?? :)

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2017/07132017/index.php

 

2. Case 17-038

Market Square Historic District

Market Plaza 2011-2109 West 25th Street

Roof Replacement

Ward 3

McCormack

Eric Edwards

Fabo Architects

Darrell Young

Owner

 

3. Case 17-039

Market Square Historic District

Sherwin-Williams 2021 West 25th Street

Market Plaza 2011-2109 West 25th Street

Sign and Plaza Sign Criteria

Ward 3

McCormack

Bill Cheraso

Peerless Electric Inc.

Darrell Young

Owner

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Let's see... what that TOD plan could do for the whole neighborhood vs. what a new roof and a Sherwin Williams could do...  :(  That rendering is outstanding... if only it could happen.

If you're the owner, why would you sell?  You've got a fully leased property and your land value is only increasing.  I'm not sure there's too much that RTA or landmarks can do.  For all we know, he may have never even gotten a compelling offer for the land.

Ken, are you saying specifically RTA is a fly-in-the-ointment to getting the beautiful project that you cited started?  Are they just going for the money without much concern for the development that's goes in on their properties?

If you're the owner, why would you sell?  You've got a fully leased property and your land value is only increasing.  I'm not sure there's too much that RTA or landmarks can do.  For all we know, he may have never even gotten a compelling offer for the land.

 

RTA was working with the property owner in the assumption that he might develop it or partner with someone to develop it with TOD design principles. The owner himself said he was open to it but made no commitments. These two Landmarks applications are the first definitive examples I've seen of his decision regarding site commitments.

 

Ken, are you saying specifically RTA is a fly-in-the-ointment to getting the beautiful project that you cited started?  Are they just going for the money without much concern for the development that's goes in on their properties?

 

My experience with transit agencies and private developers/investors is that they are motivated by sets of rules, timelines and expectations that are so different that they may ultimately be incompatible. I'd rather see RTA sell to CDCs or port authorities any properties they want developed.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I checked the CDC boundaries -- these are just barely inside OC. You can read the detail of each proposed variance at:

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2017/crr07-31-2017.pdf

 

Board of Zoning Appeals

 

JULY 31, 2017

9:30

Calendar No. 17-194: 1434 West 48 Street Ward 3

Kerry McCormack

17 Notices

Fairfield Redevelopment, owner, proposes to erect a 4 story, 1,554 square foot single family residence with

attached garage on a 2,750.6 square foot lot in a B1 Two-Family Residential District.

 

9:30

Calendar No. 17-195: 1436.5 West 48 Street Ward 3

Kerry McCormack

17 Notices

Fairfield Redevelopment, owner, proposes to erect a 4 story, 1,456 square foot single family residence with

attached garage on a 2,916.5 square foot (odd sized) lot in a B1 Two-Family Residential District.

 

9:30

Calendar No. 17-196: 1436 West 48 Street Ward 3

Kerry McCormack

17 Notices

Fairfield Redevelopment, owner, proposes to erect a 4 story, 1,456 square foot single family residence with

attached garage on a 3,010.9 square foot lot in a B1 Two-Family Residential District.

 

Knez is proposing two more infill homes at 1962-1974 West 74th Street in Detroit-Shoreway plus this one in Ohio City....

 

9:30

Calendar No. 17-201: 2089 W. 42 St. Ward 3

Kerry McCormack

11 Notices

B.R. Knez, owner, proposes to erect a 2.5 story, 1,854 square foot single family residence with

detached garage on a 3,750 square foot lot in a B1 Two-Family Residential District.

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Congratulations to @PeterSnavely and team for securing tax credits to bring 38 needed affordable units to @ohiocitytweets

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^ Also, work is now starting on the 4th floor of the new-build portion across the street.

^ Also, work is now starting on the 4th floor of the new-build portion across the street.

 

Yeah, they're cruising along..

Younger Kertesz has huge stake in NEO neighborhoods

July 23, 2017 UPDATED 14 HOURS AGO

By STAN BULLARD   

 

As Chad Kertesz sat on a picnic table outside Rising Star Coffee in Ohio City's Hingetown area chatting with other patrons, you would not suspect the 30-year-old red-haired man is putting together investments approaching $30 million in the neighboring area.

 

Or that some of his projects are nearby. A few hundred feet southwest from the perch at the onetime Ohio City Firehouse at 1455 W. 29th St., Kertesz, through his My Place Homes, plans to start building this month nine townhouses costing upward of $475,000 on part of Vine Court west of West 29th Street.

 

Meantime, about 60 feet west of the firehouse is the parking lot behind the former home of screw machine products maker Testo Manufacturing Inc., at 2925 Detroit Ave., which he bought last month.

 

Dating from 1900, the building has 7,000 square feet of space. He is in negotiations with three restaurants and a boutique for portions of the building.

 

MORE:

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20170723/NEWS/170729938/younger-kertesz-has-huge-stake-in-neo-neighborhoods

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Very exciting. He's really undertaking quite a bit around the neighborhood. Very heartening to see he plans on moving his family to one of the new properties. Those townhouses on Vine look like they will be absolutely stunning.

Can hardly wait for the shovel to go into the earth for the Vine Court project.

Can hardly wait for the shovel to go into the earth for the Vine Court project.

 

Is there reason to believe that this may start anytime soon? I was assuming it would be awhile before we saw any real movement on this project.

See article a few posts up, please.  Says construction expected to begin "this month" (July).  I'm referring to the townhouses along vine court. There was a relatively small project planned between Detroit and Wheaton Court between W. 41st and W. 45th.  Does anyone know if this proposal is still intact?  It was to go on what's sort of a strip of land between the two streets - possibly to include demolition of an empty building on Detroit. :?

 

 

I have it second hand from the OC Councilman that there is an 8-story hotel being planned along the south side of the red-line near W. 41st based upon the movement the Red Line Greenway project gets.

I have it second hand from the OC Councilman that there is an 8-story hotel being planned along the south side of the red-line near W. 41st based upon the movement the Red Line Greenway project gets.

 

Now all we need is a Red Line station there! There was one planned at this location in the early 1970s as part of a massive, high-rise development to be built over the highway and adjacent rail line. Norman Krumholz was a big proponent of the development. But it was too massive and obviously never happened.

 

Add a couple of a mid-rise residential buildings here with some ground-floor retail and/or civic uses, then a new Red Line station might be affordable with a TIF.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I have it second hand from the OC Councilman that there is an 8-story hotel being planned along the south side of the red-line near W. 41st based upon the movement the Red Line Greenway project gets.

 

Now all we need is a Red Line station there! There was one planned at this location in the early 1970s as part of a massive, high-rise development to be built over the highway and adjacent rail line. Norman Krumholz was a big proponent of the development. But it was too massive and obviously never happened.

 

Add a couple of a mid-rise residential buildings here with some ground-floor retail and/or civic uses, then a new Red Line station might be affordable with a TIF.

 

I always thought the W 65th -> W 25th stretch was a curiously long stretch without a station there, especially being so close to the center.  You do see a lot of the single-family infill happening right in that area, and there still is a decent amount of vacant lots left.  The greenway going in, plus a hotel, would definitely spur a lot more interest in the area and I could see it creating enough momentum for a push for a station to resume, as well as demand for more residential.  Especially given how much activity is happening just up the street on Lorain right now.

Maybe a small hotel/motel, as a less expensive alternative to the downtown hotels - many of which are classified as "luxury."

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