Nothing visible from Franklin Blvd.

The supportive housing group backed out. The buildings are now owned by a developer with plans to convert the buildings to apartments and a build a new apt building on the parking lot.

^Interesting, thanks for the update!

Cuyahoga County opens new archive location

https://articles.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2018/09/cuyahoga_county_opens_new_arch.amp

 

Anyone noticed if the project converting the old county archives to supportive housing has gotten under way?

 

I live about 300 feet away, and I actually noticed a MASSIVE increase in foot traffic to the building - I had no idea why. The other day a group of 6-7 were staring at the building out front for about a half hour.

Does anybody know what happened with the little project on detroit between 38th and 45th?  I recall a few condos in that triangular lot with some facing Wheat court?

The supportive housing group backed out. The buildings are now owned by a developer with plans to convert the buildings to apartments and a build a new apt building on the parking lot.

 

The parcel owner is BZSAM III LLC and is hiding behind its statutory agent, Scott Orille of Weston Hurd. Mr. Orille is also the agent for a similarly named company, BZ29 LLC as well as a great company name, WILLYMAYESHAYES, LLC, plus others. All of those are well-disguised. But I checked more similarly named companies and what they've done and owned. BZSAM II LLC owns the parcel at Lorain Avenue at West 41st St. being developed with new housing by Rust Belt Development LLC. In fact I just posted about it on this same page at:

 

https://www.urbanohio.com/forum/index.php/topic,2492.msg933714.html#msg933714

 

EDIT: while I can't find Sam Messina's name associated on any website with Rust Belt Development, as I began typing "Rust Belt Development" on Google, "Sam Messina" briefly appeared among the suggested search terms to include. Note that the owner of the former Cuyahoga County Archives property is "BZSAM" whereas other companies fronted by Scott Orille don't have "Sam" in them. So "Sam" is significant in this company. I'm not familiar with Sam Messina, but I see he's got a LinkedIn page saying he's in charge of Business Development/Construction Services & Real Estate Development at Geis Companies.

Near West Case #  NW 2018-026

 

Address: 3025 West 25th Street

Company:

Architect: Harlan Eberhardt

Description:

Renovation of an existing building into a Nike store

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=2949&CASE=NW%202018-026

 

 

The building is located just north of Clark Ave....

Nice, wasn't that building on a demo list at some point too?

Great news, but a 'Nike store'...? Really?

wasn't that a Wonder Bread store or something?

This seems pretty hard to believe...

Great news, but a 'Nike store'...? Really?

A Nike store is actually a great idea, it's retail for one, adding traffic to the area and Nike stores are few and far between so it will be a draw to the area.

Great news, but a 'Nike store'...? Really?

A Nike store is actually a great idea, it's retail for one, adding traffic to the area and Nike stores are few and far between so it will be a draw to the area.

 

I thought so too.  I am failing to see what is wrong with this.

Great news, but a 'Nike store'...? Really?

A Nike store is actually a great idea, it's retail for one, adding traffic to the area and Nike stores are few and far between so it will be a draw to the area.

 

I thought so too.  I am failing to see what is wrong with this.

The only thing with me is I would've imagined if a Nike store came, it would be in an area more developed like in a new build such as The Quarter.

Great news, but a 'Nike store'...? Really?

A Nike store is actually a great idea, it's retail for one, adding traffic to the area and Nike stores are few and far between so it will be a draw to the area.

 

I thought so too.  I am failing to see what is wrong with this.

The only thing with me is I would've imagined if a Nike store came, it would be in an area more developed like in a new build such as The Quarter.

 

Sorta feels funny that the parcel -  008-05-014 - was obtained for 0 cost in Sept. 2017 by the THE GEORGE GROUP CORP (owned by Tony George) from the county landbank; then resold 3 months later for $115k to CLE OHIO PROPERTIES LLC which owns about 15-30 properties across the city..... Wonder what the George Group did to spruce that property up in 3 months....

Great news, but a 'Nike store'...? Really?

A Nike store is actually a great idea, it's retail for one, adding traffic to the area and Nike stores are few and far between so it will be a draw to the area.

 

I thought so too.  I am failing to see what is wrong with this.

 

I suspect he's expressing disbelief, not disapproval.  I'll be absolutely shocked if this agenda item is correct. Can anyone point to another Nike Store in a remotely comparable location?

Sorta feels funny that the parcel -  008-05-014 - was obtained for 0 cost in Sept. 2017 by the THE GEORGE GROUP CORP (owned by Tony George) from the county landbank; then resold 3 months later for $115k to CLE OHIO PROPERTIES LLC which owns about 15-30 properties across the city..... Wonder what the George Group did to spruce that property up in 3 months....

 

They put their illustrious name on the for-sale documents... Seriously, it made me wonder. So I clicked on all of the CLE OHIO PROPERTIES it bought to see if there were any patterns (ie: were they all former George properties, county/city land bank properties or foreclosure properties) and noticed nothing. Perhaps I should instead be clicking on George Group properties to see how many were bought from the land bank and at what price, then how much they were sold at and how soon thereafter?

 

I suspect he's expressing disbelief, not disapproval.  I'll be absolutely shocked if this agenda item is correct. Can anyone point to another Nike Store in a remotely comparable location?

 

https://www.nike.com/us/en_us/retail/?

Sorta feels funny that the parcel -  008-05-014 - was obtained for 0 cost in Sept. 2017 by the THE GEORGE GROUP CORP (owned by Tony George) from the county landbank; then resold 3 months later for $115k to CLE OHIO PROPERTIES LLC which owns about 15-30 properties across the city..... Wonder what the George Group did to spruce that property up in 3 months....

 

Can we be sure it was really obtained for no cost? Do other land bank sales show sales prices? Not sure if it's true in Cuyahoga County, but in other jurisdictions a sales price is only reported to the recording office in conjunction with payment of a transfer tax, and I suspect sales from the land bank are exempt from transfer tax.

Sorta feels funny that the parcel -  008-05-014 - was obtained for 0 cost in Sept. 2017 by the THE GEORGE GROUP CORP (owned by Tony George) from the county landbank; then resold 3 months later for $115k to CLE OHIO PROPERTIES LLC which owns about 15-30 properties across the city..... Wonder what the George Group did to spruce that property up in 3 months....

 

Can we be sure it was really obtained for no cost? Do other land bank sales show sales prices? Not sure if it's true in Cuyahoga County, but in other jurisdictions a sales price is only reported to the recording office in conjunction with payment of a transfer tax, and I suspect sales from the land bank are exempt from transfer tax.

 

I apologize for my immediate suspicion; I've attached the deed transfer which does show $0 as a transfer cost but I am not an expert by any means of real estate .

1582f730-290c-4029-98cc-ec1efae93d99.pdf

I suspect Nike store is being used as a descriptor. Similar to the way Verizon has "authorized retailers" I would venture to bet that this will be a store that focuses a bulk of their sales on Nike material.

 

That, or the people from Portland just never came to visit the site lol

^^ I would agree.  A payless shoesource makes more sense for this site.

Yep they are Nike Factory Store & Nike factory Outlet not Nike Store.

Sorta feels funny that the parcel -  008-05-014 - was obtained for 0 cost in Sept. 2017 by the THE GEORGE GROUP CORP (owned by Tony George) from the county landbank; then resold 3 months later for $115k to CLE OHIO PROPERTIES LLC which owns about 15-30 properties across the city..... Wonder what the George Group did to spruce that property up in 3 months....

 

Can we be sure it was really obtained for no cost? Do other land bank sales show sales prices? Not sure if it's true in Cuyahoga County, but in other jurisdictions a sales price is only reported to the recording office in conjunction with payment of a transfer tax, and I suspect sales from the land bank are exempt from transfer tax.

 

I apologize for my immediate suspicion; I've attached the deed transfer which does show $0 as a transfer cost but I am not an expert by any means of real estate .

 

FWIW, I checked a random handful of conveyances from the CCLRC to private buyers (excluding non-profits), and they all showed $0 for the purchase price. I think this is just an artifact of the transfer tax exemption.

Great news, but a 'Nike store'...? Really?

A Nike store is actually a great idea, it's retail for one, adding traffic to the area and Nike stores are few and far between so it will be a draw to the area.

 

I thought so too.  I am failing to see what is wrong with this.

 

I suspect he's expressing disbelief, not disapproval.  I'll be absolutely shocked if this agenda item is correct. Can anyone point to another Nike Store in a remotely comparable location?

 

Correct!

Things getting busy on West 48th.....

 

Case 18-054: Lorain Avenue Historic District

Urban Community School 4757 Lorain Avenue

New Construction MetroHealth Health Center

Ward 3: McCormack

Project Representatives: Christine Raymond, Kaczmar Architects; Thomas Gill, Urban Community School

 

Case 18-055: Lorain Avenue Historic District

Urban Community School 2021 West 48th Street

New Construction Early Childhood Center

Ward 3: McCormack

Project Representatives: Christine Raymond, Kaczmar Architects; Thomas Gill Urban Community School

 

Existing site, looking south:

 

Planned street presence, looking south:

 

Site plan:

 

Early Education Center:

 

MetroHealth Health Center:

 

 

Interesting. I'm wondering... would this would be in addition to whatever Metro does at the Hollywood video lot further east down Lorain? Or is This that speculated development in a different location.

Nike store:

KJP[/member] I was out here for work today. They’ve made good progress. I’m so glad that tucked parking has become the norm for new developments. The used car lot that was there before was a blight.

 

Nike store:

 

Huh. That blank windowless wall in the parking lot makes me hopeful that there could be adjacent building soon.

KJP[/member] I was out here for work today. They’ve made good progress. I’m so glad that tucked parking has become the norm for new developments. The used car lot that was there before was a blight.

 

 

One Lorain Avenue used car lot down, about 15 more to go......

Little victories....

 

@AshleyShaw

Let’s give it up for Planet Fitness for removing the curb cut on Lorain and for investing $350,000 into pedestrian improvements at the old Unique Thrift bldg, making it safer and more welcoming for customers to arrive on foot or bike.

 

 

@AshleyShaw

One more Lorain Avenue curb cut gone. Thank you @Wendys for making the street more bike and pedestrian friendly!

 

Anyone know what's going on on that Wendy's lot? I couldn't find anything searching. There were a few Wendy's on High Street in Columbus that got torn down and rebuilt as apartments on top of a new Wendy's, so I would almost dare to dream...

 

But I assume it's just a rearranging of their parking lot or something.

Anyone know what's going on on that Wendy's lot? I couldn't find anything searching. There were a few Wendy's on High Street in Columbus that got torn down and rebuilt as apartments on top of a new Wendy's, so I would almost dare to dream...

 

But I assume it's just a rearranging of their parking lot or something.

 

There's nothing that's going to be built there. Just re-orienting the parking lot, and perhaps adding an outdoor patio area, if I remember correctly.

 

I tried to find rednerings of the building and the layout of the site plan, but unfortunately, images were never posted to the online agenda when it went before Landmarks.

 

First Look: Bookhouse Brewing, Opening this Weekend in Ohio City

https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2018/09/12/first-look-bookhouse-brewing-opening-this-weekend-in-ohio-city

First Look: Bookhouse Brewing, Opening this Weekend in Ohio City

https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2018/09/12/first-look-bookhouse-brewing-opening-this-weekend-in-ohio-city

 

Cannot tell you how excited I am about this place. Bit of a bookworm and I love to booze - pray for me.

 

I am, however, disappointed that there  isn't a book share element to it.

All the Wendys are getting redone, just like all the McDonalds.

@ohiocitytweets

.@KerryMcCormack1 & Harbor Bay Real Estate Advisors will host a Community Open House tonight (9/12) from 6-8pm at the Saint Ignatius High School cafeteria to share details about a new mixed-use project at West 25th St. & Lorain Ave.  Open to all to attend, refreshments will be provided.

 

^I hope somebody can attend this tonight and report back.

looking at the drawing, so much for restoring Abbey Ave to its proper alignment. Its really horrible the destruction to the city's street grid over years--this area is one of the worst for the city in terms of destruction.

I almost forgot I took this pic on the way into work yesterday.

 

This was set up behind the plaza.  Looks like some soil testing??

 

 

 

That's exactly what that is. It's a good sign but not a conclusive one.

Harbor Bay News. http://www.cleveland19.com/2018/09/13/major-ohio-city-development-project-presented-neighborhood/

I get that parking's an issue but it annoys me when Channel 19 can go and do this story on a TOD, talk about parking problems, and not mention the RTA station that sits on the property at all.

I get that parking's an issue but it annoys me when Channel 19 can go and do this story on a TOD, talk about parking problems, and not mention the RTA station that sits on the property at all.

 

I honestly don’t understand how this project would impact parking at all.

 

It’s not eliminating any parking, except for the businesses which will no longer be there anyway. And there will be some parking included for residents and WSM tenants.

Maybe we'll get an update soon from mjarboe[/member] on the groundbreaking date for Church & State?

 

mjarboe[/member]

At @portofcleveland board meeting, where bond issues are on the table for the Church & State apartments in #CLE's Ohio City neighborhood and the May Co. building makeover downtown. #CRE

 

EDIT: more.....

 

mjarboe[/member]

Church & State apartments "finally" looking at closing on its HUD senior loan (bulk of the financing) within two weeks, says Michael Panzica of Hemingway Development. Says AFL-CIO will be purchaser of bonds, which are tied to city tax-increment financing arrangement.

 

And there you have it....

 

.@portofcleveland board approves resolution to provide up to $6.5M in taxable development revenue bonds for the Church & State project. Developers aiming for Oct. 1 construction start.

I get that parking's an issue but it annoys me when Channel 19 can go and do this story on a TOD, talk about parking problems, and not mention the RTA station that sits on the property at all.

 

I went last night and spoke with Dan and the architect. They really don’t want a glut of parking. Often times community leaders and shareholders mandate projects to have a minimum amount of parking spaces. I was told that the garage spaces could eventually become other uses like apartments if we ever get past auto dependency (unlikely). The only concerns I heard from residents was about the plans to reconfigure Ghering and access to Tremont because many residents use it as a shortcut to drive through? Dan also said they’re trying to work with RTA to improve access to the rapid station. They sounded committed to TOD. I’m interested to see how the plans evolve.

I get that parking's an issue but it annoys me when Channel 19 can go and do this story on a TOD, talk about parking problems, and not mention the RTA station that sits on the property at all.

 

I went last night and spoke with Dan and the architect. They really don’t want a glut of parking. Often times community leaders and shareholders mandate projects to have a minimum amount of parking spaces. I was told that the garage spaces could eventually become other uses like apartments if we ever get past auto dependency (unlikely). The only concerns I heard from residents was about the plans to reconfigure Ghering and access to Tremont because many residents use it as a shortcut to drive through? Dan also said they’re trying to work with RTA to improve access to the rapid station. They sounded committed to TOD. I’m interested to see how the plans evolve.

 

W 20th is a block away and I think is a much easier way to get to and from Tremont as it is.

 

Maybe will have a add a signal there if traffic picks up, but I don’t think removing Ghering will ultimately affect access much.

I’m hoping that the owner of the squat building on the corner of Ghwring and Abbey will sell. His property was for sale at one point. It sounds like he’s holding out for more money. The lot that Voss owns and the large WS market lot could also stand to be developed.

I’m hoping that the owner of the squat building on the corner of Ghwring and Abbey will sell. His property was for sale at one point. It sounds like he’s holding out for more money. The lot that Voss owns and the large WS market lot could also stand to be developed.

 

A birdie told me that Voss might consider expanding their space and adding workers. Hope that's true.

 

A birdie told me that Voss might consider expanding their space and adding workers. Hope that's true.

 

How? By repurposing/demolishing the buildings containing Citizen Pie and Wild Cactus? Perhaps expanding all the way to the corner of West 25th/Chatham?