February 19, 20196 yr I don't know what the development will be, but RTA's plan going back to 2013 was to have townhouses on the site. RTA went with the assumption that any developer of these TOD-townhouses would also want to include one or two garage spaces ? . Because of the grade change and design considerations, it made more sense to put the townhouse garages on the back to avoid a mega-block of 30 front-loaded garage doors and corresponding curb cuts. They were told that the City would never approve a project where you'd have up to 30 drivers backing out of the driveway and into a busy arterial road (Columbus Rd) each morning.
February 19, 20196 yr While I don't like the idea of garage doors lining the greenway, we shouldn't get carried away in assuming its going to be just a trail completely sandwiched between the tracks and a driveway. In the article and the graphics, the narrowest the greenway right of way will be is 22.8ft. That's still pretty wide. If the trail is the width of the towpath, that would still leave alot of buffer space on either side. The train tracks do not go directly up to that right of way either, and I wouldn't imagine a driveway built directly along the other side. For comparison, in measuring on Google Maps, the Lake Link trail through Stonebridge measures between 14 and 40 ft wide, with most of it being about 30ft. That trail has buildings completely lining it for nearly the entire length.
February 20, 20196 yr 7 hours ago, X said: The Redline Greenway, and RTA's TOD development are two parallel ideas, each with no thought given to the other. The Greenway folks believe that absolutely no development should happen on the RTA land. RTA's TOD plan is to wedge the Greenway between two chainlink fences. I wouldn't expect anyone to back down or think about how to get the most out of both things happening in coordination with each other. Sad...but true. They should be working together as we all know that the weather here isn't always conducive to riding or walking to downtown, so people who choose to live on the greenway would also find their TOD spaces beneficial on days that mother nature refuses to cooperate.
February 20, 20196 yr 8 hours ago, StapHanger said: I was annoyingly presumptuous for assuming the city didn't rezone this land (thank you @3231 and @Mendo for setting me straight), but as far as I can tell, the rezoning didn't really add anything special relating to the greenway. Just put the site in a multifamily use district. No form-based overlays or special off-street parking restrictions to prevent the rear of the site from being nothing but garages, driveway, and fences. Here's another document showing the map changes: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/zoning/2018/Map2586.pdf Anyway, this site won't make or break the greenway, so I won't get too hung up on it, but wish I had more confidence we'd see something especially well designed. Question for @X , is the on-street parking on this part of Columbus fairly well used? Or do you think it could handle more cars without disrupting too many existing residents? It is very well used when Velvet Tango Room or Forest City Brewery are busy, or during market times on Saturday. Otherwise, not so much.
February 20, 20196 yr Perhaps some angled parking underneath units. So some units might have covered parking others might have angled garages. Have a lane going down to access from the Wiley intersection. It would be interesting to see if it could go vertical ala the river south condos in Rocky River and not really even use the frontage on Columbus in order to keep as much in a more natural state.
February 20, 20196 yr 20 hours ago, viscomi said: Is this the perfect situation for a requirement on development here to provide 0 off street parking spots? RTA can do that right? The block clubs would lose their shirt though. However it would be a good place to show that the world continues to work without off street parking, especially next to a heavy rail station. This is a great point. I can just see the conversation... "We don't want parking facing Columbus or the Trail!" "Ok, we'll build without parking then" "No way! Then we'll have nowhere to park!" Always found it funny how those who own properties without parking insist that all new properties must be built with lots of parking. Edited February 20, 20196 yr by RMB
February 20, 20196 yr I think many of you will be pleased with the recommended developer (a local company) and especially the architect (a global firm). While I don't know what their plans are, I would be very surprised (and disappointed) that this would be just a row of pricey townhouses, given the team involved. And you may find just as interesting who one of the rejected applicants was. If you want to learn more or share your opinions on whether this site should be developed, I encourage you to go to the Duck Island Block Club meeting on March 5 at 6:30 p.m. at Forest City Brewery. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 20, 20196 yr 38 minutes ago, KJP said: And you may find just as interesting who one of the rejected applicants was. Ha! Boy I wonder.
February 20, 20196 yr 7 hours ago, RMB said: This is a great point. I can just see the conversation... "We don't want parking facing Columbus or the Trail!" "Ok, we'll build without parking then" "No way! Then we'll have nowhere to park!" Always found it funny how those who own properties without parking insist that all new properties must be built with lots of parking. Harbor bay wants to do less than 1-to-1 parking for their apartments. It’ll be interesting to see where they end up with that. I’m hoping that ends up being the case. I know that Aspen place down the road at W 65 doesn’t have a garage, but that’s a different type of project, so I’m not sure if it’s directly relatable.
February 21, 20196 yr WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 20, 2019 Ohio City mixed use project may feature downtown ad firm An exciting mixed-use development is in the works for the Hingetown section of Cleveland's Ohio City neighborhood, according to multiple sources. Although still in a preliminary stage, the development's concept at this point involves putting the offices for a fast-growing downtown company on the lower floors of a new building with apartments on the upper floors. Two sources say the site is 2828 Clinton Ave., the current location of one of the region's most well-known and oft-photographed businesses -- the 94-year-old Cleveland Vibrator Company which will relocate from the site. The downtown company seeking to move to the site is The Adcom Group, a full-service marketing and communications firm, according to two other sources. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2019/02/ohio-city-mixed-use-project-may-feature.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 21, 20196 yr If its going to be a Snavely project, I think its safe to say it will turn out very well. They did a phenomenal job with Quarter, imo.
February 22, 20196 yr "Columbus developer buys Cleveland land, plans apartments" https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/columbus-developer-buys-cleveland-land-plans-apartments https://www.cleveland.com/expo/life-and-culture/g66l-2019/02/a8c1f90c9a7243/rta-redline-greenway-development-prompts-clash-of-positive-values-steven-litt.html If you cannot access the article, I've noticed it is accessible via a google search. Edited February 22, 20196 yr by X separated the two links
February 23, 20196 yr 4 hours ago, Eastside said: "Columbus developer buys Cleveland land, plans apartments" https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/columbus-developer-buys-cleveland-land-plans-apartments https://www.cleveland.com/expo/life-and-culture/g66l-2019/02/a8c1f90c9a7243/rta-redline-greenway-development-prompts-clash-of-positive-values-steven-litt.html If you cannot access the article, I've noticed it is accessible via a google search. Are the block clubs still upset about the Franklin circle Casto development? That whole intersection needs some help. I’m glad somebody wants to invest in it. Dexter Pl should be vacated. It’s a pointless street. That little park or whatever it is needs some sprucing up. Also the giant clinic parking lot ?
February 24, 20196 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 24, 20196 yr The more I see the more I like. Hope all the detail doesn't get value engineered out.
February 24, 20196 yr Of course this is going to be game changer for Ohio City. Just curious...Litt's article states that the developer hopes to break ground in the third quarter of this year which is not far off. Has anyone seen any evidence of tenant relocation (even something small like a moving sale) yet?
February 24, 20196 yr On 2/20/2019 at 5:02 PM, freethink said: ^^I think Carnegie might be one those... Next blog article is done. All I have to do is get the OK from a source and hit the "publish" button. Hopefully tomorrow.... Correction: it's going to have to wait until March 5. But I suppose I could give you all a little tease in the meantime. This is NOT a rendering of the development. But it is of a similar project/setting (can anyone guess where/what this is?) and it's from the architect who is part of the recommended development team, so this rendering MIGHT give some insight as to their plan. Edited February 24, 20196 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 24, 20196 yr Market Square development seems pretty legit at this point. Might deserve it's own thread.
February 24, 20196 yr ^^Some quick sleuthing suggests that image is from some Perkins+Will master planning work for the Belt Line (in Atlanta). Looking very forward to hearing more about your info! Edited February 24, 20196 yr by StapHanger
February 25, 20196 yr 10 hours ago, KJP said: Next blog article is done. All I have to do is get the OK from a source and hit the "publish" button. Hopefully tomorrow.... Correction: it's going to have to wait until March 5. But I suppose I could give you all a little tease in the meantime. This is NOT a rendering of the development. But it is of a similar project/setting (can anyone guess where/what this is?) and it's from the architect who is part of the recommended development team, so this rendering MIGHT give some insight as to their plan. Hmmmmmmmmm ... Could you be hinting at the Brickhaus development that has been in the offing for that prominent bluff overlooking the Scranton Peninsula??? If the renderings shown are similar to a proposed development in Cleveland, this would be my best guess. So, can you share more details and hints, Mr. Pendergrass??? ?
February 25, 20196 yr I can say that my hints were not referring to the former Brickhaus development. That's separate (and exciting in its own right). I've said too much already. My blog post on this will come out a week from today when the details will become a matter of public record. The best that I can say is that if you want to hear the details, there will be a presentation at the Duck Island Block Club meeting, 6:30 p.m. March 5 at Forest City Brewery, 2135 Columbus Rd. Please add your rational, pro-progress voices to the discussion. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 25, 20196 yr wow it was nice to see this kind of cool project in the paper and in the perfect site -- sounds like its going to happen: Ohio City could score tallest timber frame building in U.S. in 2021 By Steven Litt, The Plain Dealer | Posted February 24, 2019 at 05:05 AM | Updated February 24, 2019 at 10:06 AM more: https://www.cleveland.com/expo/life-and-culture/g66l-2019/02/ea4f5aa50a3112/ohio-city-could-score-tallest-timber-frame-building-in-us-in-2021.html
February 25, 20196 yr https://www.cleveland.com/business/2019/02/plans-adjusted-for-franklin-circle-apartments-project-in-ohio-city.html Edited February 25, 20196 yr by oat3333
February 28, 20196 yr On 9/10/2018 at 4:22 PM, KJP said: Things getting busy on West 48th..... Case 18-054: Lorain Avenue Historic District Urban Community School 4757 Lorain Avenue New Construction MetroHealth Health Center Ward 3: McCormack Project Representatives: Christine Raymond, Kaczmar Architects; Thomas Gill, Urban Community School Case 18-055: Lorain Avenue Historic District Urban Community School 2021 West 48th Street New Construction Early Childhood Center Ward 3: McCormack Project Representatives: Christine Raymond, Kaczmar Architects; Thomas Gill Urban Community School Existing site, looking south: Planned street presence, looking south: Site plan: Early Education Center: MetroHealth Health Center: Site prep for this development has begun in past couple days.
February 28, 20196 yr Does anyone know what is going on with the Harbor 44 development at Lorain and W 44?
February 28, 20196 yr On 2/25/2019 at 9:43 AM, KJP said: I can say that my hints were not referring to the former Brickhaus development. That's separate (and exciting in its own right). I've said too much already. My blog post on this will come out a week from today when the details will become a matter of public record. The best that I can say is that if you want to hear the details, there will be a presentation at the Duck Island Block Club meeting, 6:30 p.m. March 5 at Forest City Brewery, 2135 Columbus Rd. Please add your rational, pro-progress voices to the discussion. Ahhhh ... Could this be in reference to the proposed "Thunderbird" development on Scranton Peninsula? Are you willing to drop any more hints or you'll just keep us all in suspense until your next blog is released on March 5th??? ?????
February 28, 20196 yr 26 minutes ago, John D. Baumgardner said: Ahhhh ... Could this be in reference to the proposed "Thunderbird" development on Scranton Peninsula? Are you willing to drop any more hints or you'll just keep us all in suspense until your next blog is released on March 5th??? No, he's referring to RTA's land along Columbus adjacent to the W.25th station. There is supposed to be discussion about the project at the Duck Island block club meeting next week. And for whatever it's worth, this should conversation should probably go in the Duck Island thread. https://forum.urbanohio.com/topic/13407-cleveland-duck-island-development-and-news/page/11/
February 28, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, John D. Baumgardner said: Ahhhh ... Could this be in reference to the proposed "Thunderbird" development on Scranton Peninsula? Are you willing to drop any more hints or you'll just keep us all in suspense until your next blog is released on March 5th??? ????? 1 hour ago, Mendo said: No, he's referring to RTA's land along Columbus adjacent to the W.25th station. There is supposed to be discussion about the project at the Duck Island block club meeting next week. And for whatever it's worth, this should conversation should probably go in the Duck Island thread. https://forum.urbanohio.com/topic/13407-cleveland-duck-island-development-and-news/page/11/ No, my blog article that's already written and awaiting publication next week is unrelated to the DiGeronimo property acquisition for which I have no blog article planned at the moment. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 1, 20196 yr On 9/10/2018 at 4:22 PM, KJP said: Things getting busy on West 48th..... Case 18-054: Lorain Avenue Historic District Urban Community School 4757 Lorain Avenue New Construction MetroHealth Health Center Ward 3: McCormack Project Representatives: Christine Raymond, Kaczmar Architects; Thomas Gill, Urban Community School Case 18-055: Lorain Avenue Historic District Urban Community School 2021 West 48th Street New Construction Early Childhood Center Ward 3: McCormack Project Representatives: Christine Raymond, Kaczmar Architects; Thomas Gill Urban Community School Existing site, looking south: Planned street presence, looking south: Site plan: Early Education Center: MetroHealth Health Center: Site scraped. Getting ready to dig some dirt..... Edited March 1, 20196 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 7, 20196 yr The latest reminder why we need traffic calming on Franklin and most other urban streets.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 7, 20196 yr I'm sure this has already been answered, but will the new proposed MetroHealth health center be absorbing the operations of the McCafferty Health Center at W 44th & Lorain? If so, I'd imagine that site would be a very appealing one for developers to build new.
March 7, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, ethlaw said: I'm sure this has already been answered, but will the new proposed MetroHealth health center be absorbing the operations of the McCafferty Health Center at W 44th & Lorain? If so, I'd imagine that site would be a very appealing one for developers to build new. The article says MetroHealth will relocate “some clinical services” so it’s kind of unclear. BUT, the City owns McCafferty and runs part of the Department of public Health out of there so I don’t think something would happen anytime soon. https://www.cleveland.com/healthfit/2018/07/metrohealth_to_open_health_cen.html
March 7, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, StapHanger said: Did the traffic calming pilot come and go already? Is Franklin Ave still 35 mph? Yep and yep. The recommendations were adding curb extensions and “traffic circles” along Franklin. FWIW, I emailed McCormack and Zone about lowering the speed limit (which I believe is legal even though they keep saying it isn’t). He said he would forward it to Council lawyers, but that was months ago.
March 7, 20196 yr 11 hours ago, KJP said: The latest reminder why we need traffic calming on Franklin and most other urban streets.... As someone that lives very close to there, I can also say I have had some scary run-ins on Franklin. The issue, imo, is not from the speed limit - I think 35 is appropriate for Franklin. The issue is often with people turning onto Franklin. At times, pulling onto Franklin from my street leaves me with some significant blind spots due to parked cars on the street. There have been 2-3 times when I pulled up to get a look around a car, and before I know it, a car (going at a reasonable speed) was already approaching me from the other way. I'd ideally like to see 1-2 parking spots reduced close to intersections, just to provide for a more expansive view and avoid people peeling out onto Franklin to avoid potential collisions
March 7, 20196 yr ^35 mph seems insane to me for a street like Franklin, especially once you factor in typical speeding. Maybe just the difference in perception between a daily driver and a rare driver (said without malice).
March 7, 20196 yr 18 minutes ago, StapHanger said: ^35 mph seems insane to me for a street like Franklin, especially once you factor in typical speeding. Maybe just the difference in perception between a daily driver and a rare driver (said without malice). 35 is too high for Franklin. In my mind, almost all city streets should be 25 or less.
March 7, 20196 yr 12 hours ago, KJP said: The latest reminder why we need traffic calming on Franklin and most other urban streets.... Not a lot of detail there, not even clear this happened on Franklin. And the driver might have been going 20 or less, which is the rule in these areas already.
March 7, 20196 yr 41 minutes ago, Enginerd said: It’s crazy that Detroit is 25 but Franklin is 35. I do agree with this
March 7, 20196 yr Commercial streets are supposed to be 25 and main residential streets 35. From a vehicular movement point of view, I understand it. But from a humane perspective, I don't understand this thinking at all. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 7, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, Enginerd said: The article says MetroHealth will relocate “some clinical services” so it’s kind of unclear. BUT, the City owns McCafferty and runs part of the Department of public Health out of there so I don’t think something would happen anytime soon. https://www.cleveland.com/healthfit/2018/07/metrohealth_to_open_health_cen.html It will be empty after MetroHealth relocates its services up the street to UCS. The city has a tiny presence in McCafferty and sees it as an opportunity to sell the land for development. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 7, 20196 yr 54 minutes ago, KJP said: It will be empty after MetroHealth relocates its services up the street to UCS. The city has a tiny presence in McCafferty and sees it as an opportunity to sell the land for development. The VA Clinic inhabits a good portion of McCafferty. Is the VA moving out?
March 7, 20196 yr 33 minutes ago, NapsFan said: The VA Clinic inhabits a good portion of McCafferty. Is the VA moving out? yes
March 14, 20196 yr https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4846712,-81.7214164,3a,75y,265h,79.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1si-yTcrmZWnat6O13o95hww!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 It appears this empty parcel down the block from me will be the site of a new home in the next year. Spoke with my realtor, as I was curious if the parcel has sold - and it has, with plans to be submitted in the near future. Pretty nice for these last remaining blocks in the OC / D-S meshing point. Also, the home next to it has been renovated and rented, which is great as well.
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