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Agenda for April 5, 2019

 

Ordinance No. 339-2019(Ward 3/Councilmember McCormack): Changing the Use, Height and Area Districts of parcels along West 25th Street, Lorain Avenue and Gehring Avenue; subjecting such parcels to Section 333.02 of the Cleveland Zoning Code; and attaching the Approved Site Development Plan.

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2019/04052019/index.php

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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^Had a NIMBY refer to this project as a monstrosity to me this morning. 

 

I honestly cannot pick a cooler, more practical, environmentally conscious, and aesthetically pleasing project for that location 

1 hour ago, YABO713 said:

^Had a NIMBY refer to this project as a monstrosity to me this morning. 

 

I honestly cannot pick a cooler, more practical, environmentally conscious, and aesthetically pleasing project for that location 

 

Lol the United Bank Building across the street is a "monstrosity" as well that detracts from the West Side Market clock tower, tear it down!! (Side Note: Was talking to someone who recently visited Cleveland and called the WSM a "historic train station turned food market." They were shocked when I informed them it was never train station and was designed that way from the get go.) 

 

In all seriousness, I'm glad the developer is matching the height of the United Bank Building. The design combined with the high profile location makes this one of the most exciting upcoming projects in Cleveland.

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Welp, another wishful project is off the boards. So, this property....

 

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2210 Superior Viaduct-Kertesz -- Daryl Kertesz's Downtown Ventures LLC paid $350,000 in June 2016 for a small industrial building at 2210 Superior Viaduct a short distance from the county engineer's site. Activity Capital, an investor group led by Kertesz, has proposed to replace the small industrial structure with a 64-unit apartment building perhaps 11 stories tall. He chose that height because it would come up to the 115-foot restriction for the current zoning height district. But Kertesz said he would like to get a variance and build up to 20 stories if the market allows for it.

Kertesz's conceptual designs for the project won approval from Cleveland Planning Commission's Design Review Committee. But that was nearly three years ago in February of 2016. Kertesz said he was attracted to the Detroit-West 25th intersection due to residential momentum in the area. That includes Stonebridge and the newly completed The Quarter, as well as traffic calming improvements to the intersection to enhance pedestrian safety.

"It's still an active project," Daryl Kertesz said in a phone interview. "It just has to be the right project. There's a lot going on in that area and I'm not sure if more of the same (Class A multi-family) over there is the right answer given the market saturation. We will only get one bite at the apple and when we have the right project, we will pull the trigger."

 

MORE AT:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2018/12/pop-goes-west-rim.html

 

 

....is now for sale:

 

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https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/2208-2210-Superior-Via-Cleveland-OH/15577443/

 

2208-2210 Superior Via

Cleveland, OH 44113 ·  Flex For Sale

$1,500,000

FLEX PROPERTY FOR SALE

Get Financing

Price$1,500,000Rentable Building Area16,462 SF

Property TypeFlexNo. Stories2

Building ClassCYear Built1900

Sale TypeInvestmentParking Ratio1.21/1,000 SF

Lot Size0.30 ACAPN / Parcel ID003-15-077

Listing ID: 15577443

 

Date Created: 3/29/2019

 

Last Updated: 4/2/2019

HIGHLIGHTS

Located near several new multifamily/retail development projects

3 of 4 tenant spaces occupied with flexible leases

Rare on-site parking on the Viaduct

Excellent freeway visibility

Ability to go vertical 10-20+ stories

Just off W. 25th / Detroit intersection

SALE NOTES

Redevelopment or owner/user opportunity on the Superior Viaduct, just off W. 25th Street, in an Opportunity Zone. High barrier to entry location.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Perhaps it will be good news in the long-term if a new developer can come in that has more resources/experience with large projects. 

On 4/2/2019 at 8:31 AM, RMB said:

Word is that Snavely will be building more units on the south side of detroit between 26th and 28th.  

 

If the vibrator company project happens, that might mean 4 sizable residential development projects on adjacent blocks under construction at the same time. 

 

This is the development @RMB referenced. See "Phase 3" below....

 

'Place-Making,’ Mixed-Use Development Revitalizes Cleveland Community

Published by Teresa Garcia on Friday, April 5, 2019

 

Phase 3

 

Next to the Forest City Square Apartments will be Phase 3 of the development, which will pair the adaptive reuse of an existing building with an adjacent new-construction, five-story apartment building. The 88 apartments will be available to residents earning up to 80 percent of the AMI. 

 

Phase 3 will be financed with OZ investments, debt, equity and some city funds.

 

Construction will start this summer and is scheduled for completion within 12 months. 

 

MORE:

https://www.novoco.com/periodicals/articles/place-making-mixed-use-development-revitalizes-cleveland-community

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^Mini rant because it is Friday night and I  have absolutely nothing else going on in my life.

 

Obviously, given its audience, that article has an agenda and must reflect a certain tone.  However, in painting the requisite picture (that is tax credits are good and revitalize neighborhoods) it unfortunately fudges some facts.  Relatively minor mistakes, but still frustrating to me for the reason that there could be other inaccurate information in the article upon which I rely as being true because I have no knowledge one way or another.

 

Again, no big deal but it mentions the new small organic grocer going into the Quarter building and hypes this development in a "former food desert" (by the  way, as a side note that term drives me nuts although not nearly as much as when somebody on HGTV creams their pants over an "open concept").  I definitely have to dispute this portrayal of the neighborhood since a pretty large reasonably priced Dave's and the West Side Market are about 4 blocks away.

 

The article also states Snavely is building  a 23 acre park across the street (I am assuming the author is referring to the Irishtown Bend project).  While Snavely may be promoting the park and may even be making contributions toward it, it is a major stretch to suggest they and they alone are building it.  If true they certainly are the corporate citizens of the century (at least in my mind because Irishtown Bend is going to transformative).

 

OK rant is over.  I know there more important things to obsess over (e.g.  Jacobs Public Square surface lot?)

 

 

 

 

Which is ironic because the detail about the third phase is a pretty good scoop, but the rest of the article is pretty sloppy IMHO.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

FWIW, it's not really journalism, just promo from the most prominent accountancy in the affordable housing industry. 

That's what is called in the media biz an "advertorial."

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I live nearby and when I found out a "grocery" was going into the property I was very excited. I imagined something like a Constantino's. Man was I disappointed, that place is a joke

1 hour ago, KJP said:

That's what is called in the media biz an "advertorial."

 

Novogradac puts out a lot of good material on historic/lihtc/new market/solar energy/opportunity zone/etc tax credits, they host conferences as well. It's an amazing marketing machine obviously but they are one of the better sources for info on that stuff.

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Very nice website: https://www.stirstudiokitchen.com/

 

Stir Studio Kitchen set to open in Ohio City

Today 7:00 AM

By Marc Bona, cleveland.com

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio – Charlie Denk wants to stir things up.

 

That means making changes in his life, satiating his entrepreneurial spirit, and offering something fun and unique for diners.

 

So he is opening Stir Studio Kitchen at 4461 Lorain Ave., in Cleveland's Ohio City neighborhood.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2019/04/stir-studio-kitchen-set-to-open-in-ohio-city.html

Edited by MuRrAy HiLL

 

1 hour ago, MuRrAy HiLL said:

Very nice website: https://www.stirstudiokitchen.com/

 

Stir Studio Kitchen set to open in Ohio City

Today 7:00 AM

By Marc Bona, cleveland.com

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio – Charlie Denk wants to stir things up.

 

That means making changes in his life, satiating his entrepreneurial spirit, and offering something fun and unique for diners.

 

So he is opening Stir Studio Kitchen at 4461 Lorain Ave., in Cleveland's Ohio City neighborhood.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2019/04/stir-studio-kitchen-set-to-open-in-ohio-city.html

I played rugby with Charlie in high school, he was a few years younger. Good kid. I know my wife and I will definitely try out the kitchen. 

Saw a bunch of drilling equipment parked in the lot on the southwest corner of W 45th and Detroit.  Wasn't operating so could have been staging for someplace else, but haven't seen anything parked there before.  

On two occasions this week I saw men drilling in the Southeast corner parking lot at W.28th & Detroit a couple of days ago. 

2 hours ago, MuRrAy HiLL said:

Very nice website: https://www.stirstudiokitchen.com/

 

Stir Studio Kitchen set to open in Ohio City

Today 7:00 AM

By Marc Bona, cleveland.com

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio – Charlie Denk wants to stir things up.

 

That means making changes in his life, satiating his entrepreneurial spirit, and offering something fun and unique for diners.

 

So he is opening Stir Studio Kitchen at 4461 Lorain Ave., in Cleveland's Ohio City neighborhood.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2019/04/stir-studio-kitchen-set-to-open-in-ohio-city.html

 

I hope he's successful, but I file this under self checkouts and bagging my own groceries--when I go out to eat, I don't want to cook it for myself. ?

1 hour ago, RMB said:

Saw a bunch of drilling equipment parked in the lot on the southwest corner of W 45th and Detroit.  Wasn't operating so could have been staging for someplace else, but haven't seen anything parked there before.  

It could be part of ongoing environmental testing to determine if the underground storage tanks are leaking. I think the reference to the drilling on the SE corner of West 28th and Detroit is directly related to an upcoming development. 

36 minutes ago, 3231 said:

It could be part of ongoing environmental testing to determine if the underground storage tanks are leaking. I think the reference to the drilling on the SE corner of West 28th and Detroit is directly related to an upcoming development. 

Is the south east corner of west 28th and Detroit where Phase 3 of the Snavely development is going (5 story building with 88 affordable apartments) or is that going somewhere closer to West 25th?  If it is not Snavely I am not sure what this possible development is.  Has it been announced or as we like to do on the forum "suggested"?

I think it is Snavely.

 

 

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I took these pictures two days ago. I was saving them for an article about this project, but I'm going to widen my approach to this article after mapping this proposal in the context of other nearby developments. It's a very busy map....

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

This is from the previously posted article:  'Place-Making,’ Mixed-Use Development Revitalizes Cleveland Community

                                                                                                     Published by Teresa Garcia on Friday, April 5, 2019

 

Phase 3

 

Next to the Forest City Square Apartments will be Phase 3 of the development, which will pair the adaptive reuse of an existing building with an adjacent new-construction, five-story apartment building. The 88 apartments will be available to residents earning up to 80 percent of the AMI.  

 

Phase 3 will be financed with OZ investments, debt, equity and some city funds.

 

Construction will start this summer and is scheduled for completion within 12 months.  

 

MORE: https://www.novoco.com/periodicals/articles/place-making-mixed-use-development-revitalizes-cleveland-community

 

 

 

 

 

29 minutes ago, ctown60 said:

This is from the previously posted article:  'Place-Making,’ Mixed-Use Development Revitalizes Cleveland Community

                                                                                                     Published by Teresa Garcia on Friday, April 5, 2019

 

Phase 3

 

Next to the Forest City Square Apartments will be Phase 3 of the development, which will pair the adaptive reuse of an existing building with an adjacent new-construction, five-story apartment building. The 88 apartments will be available to residents earning up to 80 percent of the AMI.  

 

Phase 3 will be financed with OZ investments, debt, equity and some city funds.

 

Construction will start this summer and is scheduled for completion within 12 months.  

 

MORE: https://www.novoco.com/periodicals/articles/place-making-mixed-use-development-revitalizes-cleveland-community

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is a really great project. I'm glad that they're incorporating affordable housing options in a central, and transit-oriented area close to jobs and other resources. I hope that more developers pursue projects like this. Combining OZ, HTC, LIHTC, etc. can create projects that are equitable but still profitable for developers. 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2019/04112019/index.php

 

Case 19-013: Ohio City Historic District
Rhodes Mansion 2905 Franklin Boulevard
Renovation
Ward 3: McCormack
Project Representatives: LDA Architects; Sam Messina, BZM3

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^ from block club notes:

 

Sam Messina, Rustbelt Development, owner. Chris Forchion and Nick Muhvic, LDA Architects. First presentation. Historic Renovation of the vacant Rhodes Mansion. Converting the previous county archive building into 33 apartment units. The exterior of the building will remain similar to its existing appearance to meet all historic requirements. The 1874 building restoration will include repairs to the building brackets, restoration of the original windows on the mansion with replacement windows used on the annex (added to the mansion in 1914). Repairs to the annex also include a new roof and the addition of exterior lighting. The mansion will be repainted in a historic red with white trim color scheme; the existing railings will be retained. The interior renovation of the mansion will retain the original openings and fireplaces in the building, repair the plaster ceilings and refinish the original floors. There will be 33 market rate apartments (26 will be one bedroom and 7 units will be two bedrooms) with a leasing office in a front unit of the mansion. The attic space will be an apartment and a roof top patio is to be added - but will not be visible from the street. The curb cut on Franklin Blvd will be widened, the existing parking lot on Franklin will be retained and a rear parking lot will be added for a total of 34 parking spaces on site. Two mature trees will be removed to add the rear parking lot. The existing green space with two mature trees on the site located between the two parking lots will be retained. Planting beds will be added to the front of the mansion using a Victorian design and plant species. Work should begin by the end of this summer. The BC attendees were assure that all building materials will be kept on the building property. LDA was not able to confirm that the green space would not be built out in the future. No zoning variances are needed for this proposal; a vote of Block Club support will be taken at the April meeting for Landmarks.

They tore down the brick wall along Circle Ct., which kinda stinks. I thought it looked neat with the trees hanging over it and the ivy growing on it.

Anyone know the plan for the other house?

Lorain Ave is on fire...

 

Pittsburgh-Based Arsenal Cider to Open Local Cidery in Ohio City

 

Work has already begun on the Cleveland location, which is located on the ground floor of the Go Media building (4507 Lorain Ave.) across the street from Forest City Shuffleboard. Arsenal will be producing cider onsite from local fruit, supplementing the offerings with product from the mothership as well as local beers. The 15-barrel system and fermenters will be visible in the 30-seat taproom, which will feature a rustic, woodsy vibe like the original.

Look for Arsenal Cider House to open this summer.

“We’re excited,” Bill says “The more time I spend in Cleveland, the more I love it.”
 

https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2019/04/12/pittsburgh-based-arsenal-cider-to-open-local-cidery-in-ohio-city?fbclid=IwAR2UoDJQVrqp9clBpHe_OBcwKoLijNddcyLc9WL4HUNwiQrUI5I0Idrv5Zs

31 minutes ago, StapHanger said:

Anyone know the plan for the other house?

 

“...with replacement windows used on the annex (added to the mansion in 1914). Repairs to the annex also include a new roof and the addition of exterior lighting.”

 

Yeah i’m not sure if this is the other house or the back part of the existing mansion?

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8 minutes ago, Clefan98 said:

Lorain Ave is on fire...

 

Pittsburgh-Based Arsenal Cider to Open Local Cidery in Ohio City

 

Work has already begun on the Cleveland location, which is located on the ground floor of the Go Media building (4507 Lorain Ave.) across the street from Forest City Shuffleboard. Arsenal will be producing cider onsite from local fruit, supplementing the offerings with product from the mothership as well as local beers. The 15-barrel system and fermenters will be visible in the 30-seat taproom, which will feature a rustic, woodsy vibe like the original.

Look for Arsenal Cider House to open this summer.

“We’re excited,” Bill says “The more time I spend in Cleveland, the more I love it.”
 

https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2019/04/12/pittsburgh-based-arsenal-cider-to-open-local-cidery-in-ohio-city?fbclid=IwAR2UoDJQVrqp9clBpHe_OBcwKoLijNddcyLc9WL4HUNwiQrUI5I0Idrv5Zs

 

Hopefully once the FS Shuffleboard Apartments start going that'll activate more/continual investment to both fill in towards Fulton and further west. By the way what's up with all the car dealerships? I guess I've never noticed before, but just streetviewed and there's like 5 in that stretch, yesh.

11 minutes ago, GISguy said:

 

Hopefully once the FS Shuffleboard Apartments start going that'll activate more/continual investment to both fill in towards Fulton and further west. By the way what's up with all the car dealerships? I guess I've never noticed before, but just streetviewed and there's like 5 in that stretch, yesh.

You know what's good about car dealerships?  They're very easy to re-develop! 

1 hour ago, StapHanger said:

Anyone know the plan for the other house?

 

Nothing yet. The submitted documents merely say "Not In Scope" of this plan.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I'm too lazy to sort through the whole thread, but I vaguely remember now that one of the houses might be turned into a couple large condo units? 

On 4/12/2019 at 2:34 PM, StapHanger said:

I'm too lazy to sort through the whole thread, but I vaguely remember now that one of the houses might be turned into a couple large condo units? 

 

Yes work on the other one is underway, front will be corporate offices, back is apartments (or possibly condos)

Any update on the 2512 Church Ave. location and Gus’s Fried Chicken moving into that location?

Developer’s plans for $29-million Ohio City apartment project one step from obtaining key tax incentives

 

Cleveland City Council’s Development, Planning and Sustainability Committee on Tuesday signed off on a tax incentive package that includes a 15-year abatement on new taxes as a result of the improvements to the property. The package also includes a 30-year, tax-increment-financing plan that would help the company with debt service for the project.

The tax-increment financing will not have any impact on property taxes for Cleveland’s school district.

The package could go before Cleveland City Council on Monday for final approval.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/2019/04/developers-plans-for-29-million-ohio-city-apartment-project-one-step-from-obtaining-key-tax-incentives.html

 

 

Hingetown needs a retail-residential mix

 

Ashley Shaw, economic development and planning manager at OCI, said the majority of those surveyed stated that what they want are "hardware stores, drugstores and higher-end retail."

She pointed out that apartments in development will bolster the population density needed to attract a national brand such as CVS. As an example, she cited The Quarter, a complex that opened last October on Detroit Avenue, which "is now at 92% capacity within eight months of finishing their first 200 units." She added that she believes that rate will only continue to climb.

 

https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/hingetown-needs-retail-residential-mix

Disappointing to hear that the Dexter Place project is seeking and getting a TIF. 

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WEDNESDAY, APRIL 17, 2019

Hingetown, Cleveland's hottest development hotbed

 

Hingetown, that little enclave within a neighborhood within a city seemingly couldn't be growing any faster than already it is. No matter where you stand in Hingetown these days, you're either standing next to a 21st-century real estate development, across the street from one or you can see one less than a block away. Increasingly, in Hingetown, you're surrounded by projects.

That's a dramatic change considering that drug dealers and prostitutes once roamed this northeast corner of Cleveland's Ohio City neighborhood. Today, they have given way to young professionals eager to share their fresh ideas, families pushing baby strollers and entrepreneurs looking to make their mark or a new start. It's come a long way from what was a "toxic corner" as Vanity Fair told the enclave's story four years ago.

Now, one of the neighborhood's biggest developers, The Snavely Group, is rapidly expanding its footprint on Detroit Avenue which is along the northern edge of Hingetown (actually, the West Shoreway seems to be the unofficial northern boundary).

By the end of this year, Snavely reportedly hopes to delve into Phase 3 of its multi-phase, mixed-use, mixed-income development, moving westward from West 25th Street. A fourth phase may not be far behind that.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2019/04/hingetown-clevelands-hottest.html

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

First look at the new Snavely. I took screenshots of a PDF so if someone knows a better way to upload these I’m all ears.

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Another Vocon snoozer.

I can't help but be reminded of The Edge downtown by the design of this development.

 

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I don't like how it's set back farther than the existing building next to it. Seems to be somewhat common in a lot of modern developments, unfortunately. 

44 minutes ago, w28th said:

Another Vocon snoozer.

 

To be fair, this building is 100% affordable housing, so the budget for design may not be there.  

I'm glad to see that they're going all the way to the corner of West 28th with this. I had assumed, based on the parcel lines, that they would stop short of it. Maybe someday we'll see something built just south of this. Even a parking deck would be better than a surface lot.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I think it's handsome.  At least it is brick, unlike the plastic buildings down the road....

@RMB makes a good point. The building is aesthetically adequate imo. Is it what I'd love to see in that spot? No. But it's fine and it will contribute to the continued growth of a mixed income neighborhood, so I'm for it. Beyond that... This is really going to fill in Detroit. When I drive home westbound on the shoreway, and look out over Detroit 25th and into Ohio City, the depth and volume looks more like Brooklyn than a city in Ohio. 

@YABO713 I agree with you on that. As KJP pointed out in another post on another thread that sometimes density itself can be aesthetically pleasing, whether or not the actual individual buildings are. I agree with that sentiment. 

And it will look even more dense when the taller of the two buildings at Church+State starts peeking out over its neighbors. Shortly before I made this map below, I was taking pictures of development sites around Hingetown and realized..."holy crap there's a lot of stuff happening around here." In every direction you look, there's something newly built/renovated, underway or planned. Maybe more so than any other 5-10 block area in Greater Cleveland. Perhaps the area including and between Little Italy and CWRU has a similar amount. But I think that's a larger area. So I thought it would be interesting to map it (and I still missed a few things!)....

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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