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    Ohio City Hotel at Landmarks today for schematic. Announced it'll be a Marriott Tribute Portfolio hotel and it's formal name is Ohio City Hotel. This project is so exciting and we are lucky to have Da

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These are sleek. I can't tell from the drawing they look like that stained wood trend that's gotten so popular in the neighborhood and Tremont lately.

It also appears Knez has begun construction of The Nikolai at the SE corner of 38th and Clinton.

33 minutes ago, Enginerd said:

It also appears Knez has begun construction of The Nikolai at the SE corner of 38th and Clinton.

 

Yup, just walked the pup past. 

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Knez has done some nice things in the city, but that Nikolai is a turd in the punchbowl.

27 minutes ago, gruver said:

Knez has done some nice things in the city, but that Nikolai is a turd in the punchbowl.

 

I'm kinda with you on this one. And I'm the biggest YIMBY you could find

57 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

 

I'm kinda with you on this one. And I'm the biggest YIMBY you could find

Is that small development by your house progressing in any manner?

1 hour ago, YABO713 said:

 

I'm kinda with you on this one. And I'm the biggest YIMBY you could find

I was curious about the block club comments (because you know how they can be), and it was approved by them before October of 2018‼️. Which unfortunately is before my time so I can’t find them ?

2 hours ago, Htsguy said:

Is that small development by your house progressing in any manner?

 

If you're referring to the one on Franklin between 48th and 50th... they've staked out the field - had to change the location where I play fetch with my dog lol

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18 minutes ago, Clefan98 said:

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Looks like you need to check your tire pressure ?

In my opinion, the Nikolai would be a welcome addition if they'd just remove those God awful doorway overhangs. They look very dated and... low class. Not sure how else to say it. 

 

The size of the windows is disproportionate, as well. The crappy, neglected landscaping in the mockup also does it no favors. Seems like some easy fixes... 

 

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9 minutes ago, BJBaes said:

In my opinion, the Nikolai would be a welcome addition if they'd just remove those God awful doorway overhangs. They look very dated and... low class. Not sure how else to say it. 

 

The size of the windows is disproportionate, as well. The crappy, neglected landscaping in the mockup also does it no favors. Seem like (it could be) some easy fixes... 

 

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I'm sorry to keep obsessing over this but now I can't stop looking at it... Who the hell picked the landscaping for this mockup?! Those hedges haven't been tended to in months. There are literal weeds near the corner of the building! 

It is so low rent.   It looks like transitional housing for the homeless.  Wait, actually transitional housing for the homeless is more attractive...

 

 

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It looks like a McMansioned apt bldg ooof.

Also, that is thin brick

^ Could be "affordable housing." You aren't neccessarily going to get all of the frills you might find in market rate developments. They are however still needed because not everyone can afford $2000/mo rents.

 

The city needs more affordable housing units, as should be abundantly clear on this 1st day of April, in the midst of a global pandemic, a collapsed economy and massive unemployment.

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7 hours ago, gruver said:

It is so low rent.   It looks like transitional housing for the homeless.  Wait, actually transitional housing for the homeless is more attractive...

 

 

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Perhaps this is the April 1 “joke” for this year? 

11 hours ago, Frmr CLEder said:

^ Could be "affordable housing." You aren't neccessarily going to get all of the frills you might find in market rate developments. They are however still needed because not everyone can afford $2000/mo rents.

 

The city needs more affordable housing units, as should be abundantly clear on this 1st day of April, in the midst of a global pandemic, a collapsed economy and massive unemployment.

Unfortunately it doesn’t appear so.

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^ I was referring to the post by Gruver.

 

The Nikolai, doesn't look like affordable housing. In general I like Knez, but I also wouldn't even consider paying 1/3 mil for one of these until they redesigned the entryway.

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The interiors and finishes look nice. No issue there and likely the reason for the cost of admission... But there are some obvious and easy changes that can be made to the exterior that would go a long way, IMO. 

I think those setbacks are there on the fourth floor because the neighbors thought the original design looked to large for the neighborhood.  Seems like a good example of being careful what you ask for.  Originally it was bland, but mostly inoffensive.  This current design is just ugly as sin.

1 hour ago, X said:

I think those setbacks are there on the fourth floor because the neighbors thought the original design looked to large for the neighborhood.  Seems like a good example of being careful what you ask for.  Originally it was bland, but mostly inoffensive.  This current design is just ugly as sin.

Sounds about right for the block club.

 

”its too big for the neighborhood, it doesn’t fit in!!1!11!!”

 

**is exactly the same size as the building next door**

Big step down from the original vision....

I suppose given the way elevations are drawn that the setback on the 4th floor could actually be the same, but I thought I read at some point that it was added, or maybe just made larger, to decrease the prescense of the building from the street.  Either way, this design is almost comically bad.

How about a nice construction progress photo of two big projects instead of nitpicking a small project for two days.... ?

 

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

On 3/31/2020 at 7:18 PM, Clefan98 said:

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Gone

 

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Church and State over yonder.  Makes me think of some ancient monument glistening in the sun....

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32 minutes ago, lafont said:

From West 65th....

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Height of Dexter growing very very slowly....

12 hours ago, lafont said:

It certainly looks traditional in the drawing, compared to what else has been going up in Ohio City....

I like this rendering. This is the type of development I like to see.

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15 hours ago, lafont said:

Height of Dexter growing very very slowly....

They added 2 more floors since March 27....Seems to be right on schedule

I follow it all but am thinking of the circle end.  I don't agree; they had the lowest level and much of two levels above that for many weeks and now started adding the next level - which would be the third level above the sidewalk. Sections to the north are getting built up at very unevenly.  Around the elevator shaft, for example, it's clear what's left.  I was at the site as recently as yesterday, after 5:30 pm.  
 

All this is rather trivial, obviously, because it will all get done eventually.  I assume the contractor knows what he's doing - I'm just a stickler for detail. I know this is not the kind of construction where they add a floor every week or two (e.g.The Lumen, etc.). As an aside, those working on the infrastructure project along Fulton and Franklin, with the planned Circle, have created one of the most pedestrian-unfriendly environments I've ever seen - in my over-50 years of following such projects!  Totally nasty!

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

23 hours ago, lafont said:

It certainly looks traditional in the drawing, compared to what else has been going up in Ohio City....

Traditional is okay. The changes (setbacks) however make the final product a little awkward looking and unattractive.  It puts more emphasis on the entrance.

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A couple pics from the area. Wow there is alot going on around here. This neighborhood is completely different than it was when I moved 2 years ago (and it was completely different then as compared to when I moved to the neighborhood 3 years before then). 

 

Dexter, from the back:

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Snavely's Quarter phase 3:

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Tinnerman Building rehab.... (Fulton just south of Lorain) 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Renovations proposed for the 1870 W 25th St storefront.

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On 4/2/2020 at 3:38 PM, gruver said:

Big step down from the original vision....

 

Know what's ironic.... NIMBYs kept litigating the look to be more "neighborhood appropriate" and it led to this... 

The vicinity of the developing Franklin Circle is currently one of the most pedestrian-unfriendly projects in the over-60 years I've been following construction projects, but it's certainly rewarding to finally see evidence of the new circle being formed:

 

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Glad to see Crain's got the story. Sometimes it makes me nervous when I'm the only one who gets a story....

 

April 19, 2020 04:00 AM

Chicago developer Stoneleigh buys site in Ohio City, plans apartment project

 

Stoneleigh Cos., a Chicago-based apartment and office builder, is preparing plans for a $60 million, 241-suite project at the west edge of Hope Memorial Bridge between Ohio City and downtown.

 

Rick Cavenaugh, senior principal and Stoneleigh founder, said it's the kind of site his company seeks because it's central to people going to or from downtown, but also near restaurants and amenities where people like to live.

 

"It's not an internal site in the neighborhood that's near where people want to go; it's on the way to where people are going," Cavenaugh said. "It will have views of downtown Cleveland and be within walking distance from the West Side Market and West 25th Street."

 

Stoneleigh on March 30 shelled out $7.6 million for the four-acre parcel to Brickhaus Integrity Ohio LLC, according to Cuyahoga County online property records.

 

MORE

https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/chicago-developer-stoneleigh-buys-site-ohio-city-plans-apartment-project

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I was mortified to see the amount of damage done by that car crashing into the building at Detroit/ W25th the other week. Most of all because it seems to have necessitated the removal of the old ‘Subway’ sign and entrance. I hope that sign has been thoughtfully rescued and there are plans to reinstate everything ‘as was’. 
 

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My hovercraft is full of eels

Whole lotta construction going on in this picture 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

8 hours ago, roman totale XVII said:

I was mortified to see the amount of damage done by that car crashing into the building at Detroit/ W25th the other week. Most of all because it seems to have necessitated the removal of the old ‘Subway’ sign and entrance. I hope that sign has been thoughtfully rescued and there are plans to reinstate everything ‘as was’. 

 

The majority of the damage seemed to miraculously spare those details.  I think they've removed the sign as a precaution while they repair the damage but after it first happened it looked- thankfully- just fine.  Close call ?

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