Looks like funding for the Irishtown Bend stabilization project is all in place!

Cleveland to pay $1.4M toward a $28M fix to keep Irishtown Bend hillside from sliding into Cuyahoga River

 

https://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/2020/09/cleveland-to-pay-14m-toward-a-28m-fix-to-keep-irishtown-bend-hillside-from-sliding-into-cuyahoga-river.html
 

CLEVELAND, Ohio – A plan approved Wednesday by Cleveland City Council will require the city to kick in just over $1.4 million to get nearly $28 million in work to stabilize the Irishtown Bend hillside, rebuild a roadway and develop a park with a view of downtown.
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Work to stabilize the slope will be coordinated by the Cleveland-Cuyahoga County Port Authority. The cost estimate now is about $25.5 million.

That money will come from five sources:

$9 million from a federal grant.

$7 million from NEORSD.

$5 million from the state. of Ohio

$3.5 million from NOACA.

$1 million from Cleveland.

 

12 hours ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

Looks like funding for the Irishtown Bend stabilization project is all in place!

Cleveland to pay $1.4M toward a $28M fix to keep Irishtown Bend hillside from sliding into Cuyahoga River

 

https://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/2020/09/cleveland-to-pay-14m-toward-a-28m-fix-to-keep-irishtown-bend-hillside-from-sliding-into-cuyahoga-river.html
 

CLEVELAND, Ohio – A plan approved Wednesday by Cleveland City Council will require the city to kick in just over $1.4 million to get nearly $28 million in work to stabilize the Irishtown Bend hillside, rebuild a roadway and develop a park with a view of downtown.
...

Work to stabilize the slope will be coordinated by the Cleveland-Cuyahoga County Port Authority. The cost estimate now is about $25.5 million.

That money will come from five sources:

$9 million from a federal grant.

$7 million from NEORSD.

$5 million from the state. of Ohio

$3.5 million from NOACA.

$1 million from Cleveland.

 

So, $25m is the estimate for stabilization. What was the cost for the park, landscaping, etc.? The line has been kind of blurred between what money is funneling to the stabilization vs. what is going toward the park/green space.

 

Edit - maybe I'm overthinking it and it's all lumped into the same estimate/project? However, I'd find it hard to believe they'd have cost estimates before planning the design of the park. 

Edited September 24, 20204 yr by BJBaes

Not an expert, but I would imagine the line is blurry because the work is also blurry.

31 minutes ago, BJBaes said:

So, $25m is the estimate for stabilization. What was the cost for the park, landscaping, etc.? The line has been kind of blurred between what money is funneling to the stabilization vs. what is going toward the park/green space.

 

Edit - maybe I'm overthinking it and it's all lumped into the same estimate/project? However, I'd find it hard to believe they'd have cost estimates before planning the design of the park. 

I wondered if that was perhaps the reason of the article says $28 million in some places, and $25.5 million in other places. Perhaps the difference in those numbers is the cost of the park. Or it could be that one of those numbers includes the price of redoing Franklin Blvd and the other one does not.

 

The important thing is that the stabilization project seems to be fully funded. 

I love this project, it feels to me like our answer to Pittsburgh's Mt. Washington in a way. It's not a high elevation, but a memorable spot with a great view. I have a feeling that in the years following the opening of Irishtown Bend, Ohio City is going to reach levels many of us didn't even think it was capable of. Think North High Street in Columbus. It may be overly optimistic, but I can see this becoming Cleveland's premier park & acting as that sort of catalyst. 

3 minutes ago, ArtDecoSquirrel said:

I love this project, it feels to me like our answer to Pittsburgh's Mt. Washington in a way. It's not a high elevation, but a memorable spot with a great view. I have a feeling that in the years following the opening of Irishtown Bend, Ohio City is going to reach levels many of us didn't even think it was capable of. Think North High Street in Columbus. It may be overly optimistic, but I can see this becoming Cleveland's premier park & acting as that sort of catalyst. 

Ohio City and Hingetown will blow up post news of this park. I expect new developments to be announced before park even done so they open as the park opens.

11 minutes ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

I wondered if that was perhaps the reason of the article says $28 million in some places, and $25.5 million in other places. Perhaps the difference in those numbers is the cost of the park. Or it could be that one of those numbers includes the price of redoing Franklin Blvd and the other one does not.

 

The important thing is that the stabilization project seems to be fully funded. 

My guess is that none of this is for the park.  Has the design of the park even begun?  If it has I doubt it has reached a point where good cost estimates can be made.  I was under the impression that while the stabilization plans are much further along and some preliminary work has actually started, even the engineering plans for that phase of the project still need some tweaking.  I recall an article (or post) a year or so ago which stated that engineering design work would take about 18 months.

5 minutes ago, ArtDecoSquirrel said:

I love this project, it feels to me like our answer to Pittsburgh's Mt. Washington in a way. It's not a high elevation, but a memorable spot with a great view. I have a feeling that in the years following the opening of Irishtown Bend, Ohio City is going to reach levels many of us didn't even think it was capable of. Think North High Street in Columbus. It may be overly optimistic, but I can see this becoming Cleveland's premier park & acting as that sort of catalyst. 

Again with you 100%.  I have opined on a number of occasions that this is a transformative project for Cleveland.  It will help connect Ohio City with downtown, encourage further Riverfront development given its scale, add much needed parkland for downtown and OC residents and with foster tons more development in Ohio City.

Just looking at the conceptual plans from the September 2017 article is exciting to imagine the potential.

And as an added bonus we will get a make over and narrowing of West 25th as it approaches Detroit which is much needed.

The combo of Irishbend Park, Canal Basin park, and the Red Line greenway all coming together over the next few years will be amazing and spur so much development.

NOACA gave a TLCI grant for planning the park in 2016, which I'd imagine is all unofficial, but they did estimate the cost of the park accompanying trails at $43.6 million.  Their estimate for stabilization at the time was $44.9 million.

 

https://www.noaca.org/regional-planning/transportation-planning/irishtown-bend

 

PDF of the vision plan:

https://www.noaca.org/home/showdocument?id=22222

5 hours ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

I wondered if that was perhaps the reason of the article says $28 million in some places, and $25.5 million in other places. Perhaps the difference in those numbers is the cost of the park. Or it could be that one of those numbers includes the price of redoing Franklin Blvd and the other one does not.

 

The important thing is that the stabilization project seems to be fully funded. 

 

It seems the $28 million figure was combined for Franklin Blvd and the stabilization work - $25.5 million for stabilization and $2.1 million for Franklin blvd for a total of $27.6 million. It references Cleveland's $1.4 million contribution split between $1 million for the stabilization work and $430,000 for Franklin Blvd. I'd have to assume the actual park costs are separate and dependent (in more ways than one - timing, footprint, budget, engineering/geotech concerns) on the stabilization.

11 hours ago, Htsguy said:

Again with you 100%.  I have opined on a number of occasions that this is a transformative project for Cleveland.  It will help connect Ohio City with downtown, encourage further Riverfront development given its scale, add much needed parkland for downtown and OC residents and with foster tons more development in Ohio City.

Strongly agree with @Htsguy’s post and most others praising this project. When you think about Cleveland’s near west side and the progress In neighborhoods from the Flats West Bank to  Ohio City to  Gordon Square - there’s a striking  change in perception and reality.  And consider that, In the Covid World, our appreciation for parks and attractive outdoor spaces seems to have increased dramatically. Having a fully realized  Irish Bend, where folks can enjoy a scenic park experience, just minutes from downtown - with views of city skyline, river and lakefront -will be game- changing for residents and visitors .   It has the potential to be a major catalyst for new development in adjacent neighborhoods, including downtown.   I’m more optimistic about the future of Cleveland’s near west side than I’ve ever been. 

Here’s an update of Exchange on Clinton from my walk this morning 

Those give some nice density to the area, while still having the same look and feel as the other surrounding houses.

Walked by the Rhodes Mansion (former county archives) and saw demo had begun.  Glad to see this project was starting. it was supposed to be completed before Sanford House next door which was finished a year ago.  

Some pics of the next phase of the quarter from a couple days ago

They were pretty quick getting that facade up. I'm a big fan of grey brick, and am happy they went with the black framed windows similar to Euclid Grand. They instantly make any project look better. I also really like the green section now too. I know there was some concern early on with the renderings about it seeming disconnected, but I think it turned out well because of that. It compliments the other tall and narrow buildings in the neighborhood.

I like the store fronts.  Contemporary but a bit of a throw back.

On 9/30/2020 at 1:07 AM, tykaps said:

Some pics of the next phase of the quarter from a couple days ago

That's a beautiful building! I love the presence of buildings on Detroit. 

This could be nothing, but I figured it was curious enough to post here. Over the last few days, a bunch of huge trees have been cut down on this empty lot. I checked the county GIS website and the parcel changed hands in 2017. I'm wondering if the current owner is looking to build something there now. I checked all the adjacent lots to make sure it wasn't the same owner looking to extend an existing property's backyard or something, but they all have different owners. Anybody know anything?

 

There were also multiple survey posts and markings all over the property a few days ago before the trees were cut down. I'll look into it unless @tykaps beats me to it! ?

@KJP sorry beat you to it.

They're building a single family house. Also a detached garage with an in-law suite on top. It was at the May 28th landmarks commission meeting.

Just as an aside - remember when those NIMBYs went absolutely crazy about the Knez apartment proposal on Franklin, between 48th and 50th. Their reasons being:

 

1. Not enough access to transit - despite there being 3 bus stops within 0.5 miles ?

 

2. No available parking, as the church "regularly" fills up the only parking lot nearby and streets are "already filled" with spots. 

 

Here is the church's parking lot, PACKED TO THE BRIM during their Sunday service this week (btw attendance for them hasn't changed and I see damn near zero of them wearing masks going in) ?. I cannot emphasize this enough, NIMBYs are the worssssssssssst

 

 

 

 

Some "late night" construction pics around Ohio City from a few weeks ago

Man Dexter is one sharp looking project.

1 hour ago, cadmen said:

Man Dexter is one sharp looking project.

^Columbus developer^  I hate to say it, but if they stick around long enough, they will learn this City's government has much lower expectations. 

1 minute ago, gruver said:

^Columbus developer^  I hate to say it, but if they stick around long enough, they will learn this City's government has much lower expectations. 

 

Except their next project may be in Lakewood.

1 hour ago, gruver said:

^Columbus developer^  I hate to say it, but if they stick around long enough, they will learn this City's government has much lower expectations. 

What recent development in Ohio City would you say is a lot worse than this one?  Church and State and Intro are both high caliber developments.  Even Quarter was a solid project IMO.

 

Edit: Now that I think of it, there are a few other projects of similar scale that aren't that great.  

Edited October 6, 20204 yr by cle_guy90

On 6/5/2020 at 12:45 PM, dastler said:

Pretty happy with the proposed Knez project on Fulton/Bailey.

Anyone know any updates on this project? Knez's website here: https://knez.net/townhomes/bailey-bridge-townhomes/ says that there will be 56 townhomes starting in the mid $300's but no dates or floor plans or anything are available yet. Just coming soon.

Edited October 6, 20204 yr by dastler

1 hour ago, gruver said:

^Columbus developer^  I hate to say it, but if they stick around long enough, they will learn this City's government has much lower expectations. 

I hear ya. Not to say every Columbus development is good, but they seem to do a much better job creating attractive, stately buildings that integrate well into a historic environment.

The Harbor 44 development got approval from BOZA. One of the planned tenants, Sherwin Williams, wants to move in ASAP so construction will probably start soon-ish. 

The developer has future work planned south of this one as you can see here:

50 minutes ago, tykaps said:

The Harbor 44 development got approval from BOZA. One of the planned tenants, Sherwin Williams, wants to move in ASAP so construction will probably start soon-ish. 

The developer has future work planned south of this one as you can see here:

Ground broke yesterday actually!

That design went downhill big time.

^ Agreed. My first reaction was that I was looking at the office/retail buildings along Richmond Rd in Warrensville Hts: 

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4282768,-81.4979081,3a,75y,300.24h,91.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZzeaP9_4KT3I8ALyOi64mw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

At least its without the parking lots I guess.

 

Regarding Dexter, I'm so glad to see that they are using real bricks, instead of the slap on faux brick covering that seems common now.

Looks a little bland but it'll fit in well other 2 story mixed use building on Lorain. If it looks suburban, that's because they are often poor imitation of urban buildings.

This looks like a case where the rendering "may" be worse than the execution.  The materials list shows brick, cast stone and aluminum panels - so I am hopeful it will look like a miniaturized phase 2 of The Quarter.  On the subject of the renderings, I am also hopeful that they actually plant sycamore trees as reflected, rather than yet more ever-small, "flowering" pear trees which developers must get for free.

I don’t recall seeing these renderings for Tinnerman Lofts (which apparently is getting close to completion).

Love the courtyard green space and the massive windows in the units!

^Really making the case for a Red Line station at W41/W44.

I'm glad this forum exists because there's no way I can keep up with all of these new developments through my blog! 

Edited October 8, 20204 yr by KJP

I pass this building on Fulton the other day(3400 Vega Ave Cleveland, OH 44113) and saw it had a for sale sign on it.  Do anyone know if it's being considered for a residential redevelopment?  It would be a good one for it especially being close to the RedLine tracks, would help add density and a reason for a new station in the area... with all that's going on already with the above developments.

48 minutes ago, NR said:

I pass this building on Fulton the other day(3400 Vega Ave Cleveland, OH 44113) and saw it had a for sale sign on it.  Do anyone know if it's being considered for a residential redevelopment?  It would be a good one for it especially being close to the RedLine tracks, would help add density and a reason for a new station in the area... with all that's going on already with the above developments.

I believe @KJP talked about both the scrapcom building and 3400 Vega being considered for apartment conversions. I've also reached out to Kerry McCormack about a red line station here because of the density being added as well as adding red line greenway access. He says it's something that's been brought up before and agrees it would be a good spot. No comment on timelines or the seriousness of said discussions.

 

I reached out to Knez about the townhomes going in at the corner of Fulton/Bailey, no comment was given on timeline, but they plan to build in stages. The first six (of what appears to be 57) homes will be fronting Fulton and ~1400sf in the mid $300's (~$250sf) which is a pretty high mark for new construction in this section of SOLO.

 

Finally, some construction update on infill housing. Cleveland Bricks is building these, there's a little bit about them on the bottom of this page: https://clevelandbricks.com/future-projects/. They're a little bit large for my tastes compared to the houses around them, but overall pretty faithful for infill homes. The density is great, they fill up basically the entire lot. I just realized the angle is bad on my photo... the red/black house to the right of the new houses is two stories, the second story doesn't show in the photo though.

Edited October 9, 20204 yr by dastler

Exchange on Clinton really rolling along. Middle house will be entirely red brick

21 hours ago, urbanetics_ said:

I don’t recall seeing these renderings for Tinnerman Lofts (which apparently is getting close to completion).

Love the courtyard green space and the massive windows in the units!

From https://www.apartments.com/tinnerman-lofts-cleveland-oh/tnzcly8/ looks like apartments are available starting Nov 10th. $1510 for a 765sf 1 bedroom is the cheapest immediately available, there are two units for $1220 available Dec 1 that are a bit smaller. Tops out at $2755 for a 2br 1,625sf loft.

 

Also, there's a pizza oven planned in the courtyard! I wonder if neighborhood residents could sneak in access ?.

On 9/14/2020 at 11:31 PM, BJBaes said:

They finally paved the majority of the roads today (Fulton and 28th).

 

The traffic circle looks nearly complete with the exception of a few fill-in spots near utility poles that are probably pending make-ready pole work. I believe the original ECD was early October and that looks to be on track. 
 

 

I just want my commute route back ? 

6 hours ago, YABO713 said:

 

I just want my commute route back ? 

One month later to the day, street construction crews have not been back for any additional work on West 28th or the traffic circle...

 

Lanes/median/boundary lines have only been painted on one short stretch of Fulton. 

Edited October 14, 20204 yr by BJBaes

New 2-story bldg at W 44 and Lorain to begin construction next week. A new sherwin willimas store on the ground floor and the Second floor to house an office tenant.

 

"A long-dilapidated former furniture store, dating from 1920, at West 44th Street and Lorain Avenue in Cleveland is gone — and in a switch from the past is about to be replaced by a new commercial structure rather than remain an empty lot or become a used-car lot.

 

An affiliate of Local Development Partners LLC of Cleveland plans to have construction crews on site the week of Oct. 19 to begin constructing a two-story building with retail space on the first floor and office space on the second...."

 

https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/paint-store-kicks-new-cleveland-project

Does anyone know what's going on at 50th and Lorain on the Northwest corner? There have been construction crews there non-stop and its been fenced off for the better part of 6 months. 

On 10/14/2020 at 5:11 PM, BJBaes said:

One month later to the day, street construction crews have not been back for any additional work on West 28th or the traffic circle...

 

Lanes/median/boundary lines have only been painted on one short stretch of Fulton. 

@YABO713 it will be open by the end of the month ??