Snavely Phase 3 coming out of the ground!

Zoning item on the agenda for December 2 for the market square project

 

Edit: text:
 

Calendar No. 19-279: 2021 W. 25th Street Ward 3
Kerry McCormack
20 Notices
Ohio City Legacy LLC, owner, proposes to establish for mixed use for parking garage, 290 residential dwelling units and event space in a K4 Limited Retail Zoning District and an Urban Form Overlay District. The owner appeals for relief from the strict application of the following sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances:
1. Section 348.04(d)(1)(A) which states that an 8' maximum front yard setback is permitted;12 feet 3 inches are proposed.
2. Section 348.04(d)(1)(B) which states that a 6 foot maximum is allow and the proposed setback on secondary street frontage is more than 6 feet.
3. 348.04(d)(1)(D) which states that a 3 foot minimum rear yard is required and 2 feet 7 inches are proposed.
4. Section 348.04(d)(2)(A) which states that the build-out is less than 80% and a minimum of 3.5 feet tall masonry street screening is required and none is proposed.
5. Section 348.04(d)(2)(B) which states that 100% min. secondary street frontage build-out required and approximately 40% is proposed.
6. Section 348.04(d)(5)(A) which states that a 3 foot minimum depth and 3.5 foot tall masonry screening is required on Lorain Ave and none is proposed. (Filed October 31, 2019)

Edited November 20, 20195 yr by CbusTransit

 

Something more for the SoLo area....

 

Near West Design Review Case Report

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Project Information

Near West Case #  NW 2019-035

Address:2170 West 40th Street

Company:Alaskareno, LLC

Architect:

Description:

7-unit townhome proposal in Ohio City

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=3372&CASE=NW 2019-035

3 very short yet stunningly transformative years for Ohio City:

 

I follow EVERYTHING in Ohio City, Tremont, Gordon Square/Detroit Shoreway, downtown, Univ. Circle, Little Italy, and many areas.  This is  true!

THE NIMBY'S STRIKE AGAIN:

 

All - 

 

On Thursday evening 11/23, Chad Kertesz of My Place Group presented his plans for developing the property at 4815 Franklin Blvd to the Ohio City Heights Block Club, which is the block club within the area that includes the currently vacant lot.

 

The attendees are listed below:

 

Lynn Pruitt

Fred Mowery (block club co-chair)

Cynthia and Venancio Camargo*

Steve Zamborski

Josh Jordan

Roger Scheve

Scott Staley

Mitch Pollack (block club co-chair)

Tricia Kachmyers (block club secretary)

*Note - the Camargos needed to leave before the project was discussed.

 

The above attendees are copied on this e-mail.  We have also bcc-ed all residents currently on the block club mailing list.

 

This e-mail was drafted by Mitch Pollack, with all attendees given the opportunity to provide input.

 

The attendees discussed the project and have come to the following conclusions:

 

- We believe My Place Group could be a responsible developer who would be an asset to our area.  They have demonstrated that they have the skills and experience to manage a rental development effectively.

 

- However, we believe the proposal, as it stands, would not be appropriate for our neighborhood for the following reasons:

 

* The density of the development (24 units on a lot of slightly less than 1/3 acre) would not fit well with the surrounding area, which is comprised of multi-family homes, single-family homes, smaller businesses, places of worship, and smaller apartment buildings. Current zoning is two-family.

 

* This is not an area where quality public transportation is readily accessible, and it is likely that the ratio of automobiles to units would be 1:1 or greater.  Access to parking would be via Wales Court, an alley accessible primarily from West 48th Street and secondarily through a network of other alleys within the block bounded by Franklin Boulevard, West 48th Street, Bridge Avenue, and West 50th Street.  We are concerned that neither these alleys nor the neighboring streets are equipped to handle the additional traffic that would result from this development.

 

* Additionally, only 20 parking spaces are proposed for the 24-unit building, and even with 20 spaces, the parking lot is extremely cramped.  Parking is limited and only available on the north side of Franklin Boulevard, and therefore we believe that it is likely that the development, as proposed, would lead to congestion and a parking shortage on West 48th Street to the south of Franklin Boulevard.

 

The developers' proposed solution to the problem - to ask the nearby Iglesia del Salvador if they would be willing to share their parking facilities with the development - does not appear to us to be a viable solution to this issue, as the ability of residents to use the church's parking would be subject to the whims of the church and would still lead to a parking shortage during those times when the church needs their lot. 

 

- For the above reasons, we are opposed to the proposal as it stands.  However, we are in favor of development on the currently unused lot and we invite the developers to submit a revised proposal that would involve fewer units, or possibly a small number of single family homes

36 minutes ago, Clefan98 said:

THE NIMBY'S STRIKE AGAIN:

 

All - 

 

On Thursday evening 11/23, Chad Kertesz of My Place Group presented his plans for developing the property at 4815 Franklin Blvd to the Ohio City Heights Block Club, which is the block club within the area that includes the currently vacant lot.

 

The attendees are listed below:

 

Lynn Pruitt

Fred Mowery (block club co-chair)

Cynthia and Venancio Camargo*

Steve Zamborski

Josh Jordan

Roger Scheve

Scott Staley

Mitch Pollack (block club co-chair)

Tricia Kachmyers (block club secretary)

*Note - the Camargos needed to leave before the project was discussed.

 

The above attendees are copied on this e-mail.  We have also bcc-ed all residents currently on the block club mailing list.

 

This e-mail was drafted by Mitch Pollack, with all attendees given the opportunity to provide input.

 

The attendees discussed the project and have come to the following conclusions:

 

- We believe My Place Group could be a responsible developer who would be an asset to our area.  They have demonstrated that they have the skills and experience to manage a rental development effectively.

 

- However, we believe the proposal, as it stands, would not be appropriate for our neighborhood for the following reasons:

 

* The density of the development (24 units on a lot of slightly less than 1/3 acre) would not fit well with the surrounding area, which is comprised of multi-family homes, single-family homes, smaller businesses, places of worship, and smaller apartment buildings. Current zoning is two-family.

 

* This is not an area where quality public transportation is readily accessible, and it is likely that the ratio of automobiles to units would be 1:1 or greater.  Access to parking would be via Wales Court, an alley accessible primarily from West 48th Street and secondarily through a network of other alleys within the block bounded by Franklin Boulevard, West 48th Street, Bridge Avenue, and West 50th Street.  We are concerned that neither these alleys nor the neighboring streets are equipped to handle the additional traffic that would result from this development.

 

* Additionally, only 20 parking spaces are proposed for the 24-unit building, and even with 20 spaces, the parking lot is extremely cramped.  Parking is limited and only available on the north side of Franklin Boulevard, and therefore we believe that it is likely that the development, as proposed, would lead to congestion and a parking shortage on West 48th Street to the south of Franklin Boulevard.

 

The developers' proposed solution to the problem - to ask the nearby Iglesia del Salvador if they would be willing to share their parking facilities with the development - does not appear to us to be a viable solution to this issue, as the ability of residents to use the church's parking would be subject to the whims of the church and would still lead to a parking shortage during those times when the church needs their lot. 

 

- For the above reasons, we are opposed to the proposal as it stands.  However, we are in favor of development on the currently unused lot and we invite the developers to submit a revised proposal that would involve fewer units, or possibly a small number of single family homes

 

These people belong in the suburbs JFC.

 

Parking, PArKinG, PARKING! lol

 

Edit: I'm all for strong communities, and a strong community group, but these  people just sound overly protective of a city neighborhood that's finally coming to. They aren't adding anything to the overall community other than 'protecting' their personal views of the neighborhood from 1990.

Edited November 27, 20195 yr by GISguy

31 minutes ago, Clefan98 said:

THE NIMBY'S STRIKE AGAIN:

 

All - 

 

On Thursday evening 11/23, Chad Kertesz of My Place Group presented his plans for developing the property at 4815 Franklin Blvd to the Ohio City Heights Block Club, which is the block club within the area that includes the currently vacant lot.

 

The attendees are listed below:

 

Lynn Pruitt

Fred Mowery (block club co-chair)

Cynthia and Venancio Camargo*

Steve Zamborski

Josh Jordan

Roger Scheve

Scott Staley

Mitch Pollack (block club co-chair)

Tricia Kachmyers (block club secretary)

*Note - the Camargos needed to leave before the project was discussed.

 

The above attendees are copied on this e-mail.  We have also bcc-ed all residents currently on the block club mailing list.

 

This e-mail was drafted by Mitch Pollack, with all attendees given the opportunity to provide input.

 

The attendees discussed the project and have come to the following conclusions:

 

- We believe My Place Group could be a responsible developer who would be an asset to our area.  They have demonstrated that they have the skills and experience to manage a rental development effectively.

 

- However, we believe the proposal, as it stands, would not be appropriate for our neighborhood for the following reasons:

 

* The density of the development (24 units on a lot of slightly less than 1/3 acre) would not fit well with the surrounding area, which is comprised of multi-family homes, single-family homes, smaller businesses, places of worship, and smaller apartment buildings. Current zoning is two-family.

 

* This is not an area where quality public transportation is readily accessible, and it is likely that the ratio of automobiles to units would be 1:1 or greater.  Access to parking would be via Wales Court, an alley accessible primarily from West 48th Street and secondarily through a network of other alleys within the block bounded by Franklin Boulevard, West 48th Street, Bridge Avenue, and West 50th Street.  We are concerned that neither these alleys nor the neighboring streets are equipped to handle the additional traffic that would result from this development.

 

* Additionally, only 20 parking spaces are proposed for the 24-unit building, and even with 20 spaces, the parking lot is extremely cramped.  Parking is limited and only available on the north side of Franklin Boulevard, and therefore we believe that it is likely that the development, as proposed, would lead to congestion and a parking shortage on West 48th Street to the south of Franklin Boulevard.

 

The developers' proposed solution to the problem - to ask the nearby Iglesia del Salvador if they would be willing to share their parking facilities with the development - does not appear to us to be a viable solution to this issue, as the ability of residents to use the church's parking would be subject to the whims of the church and would still lead to a parking shortage during those times when the church needs their lot. 

 

- For the above reasons, we are opposed to the proposal as it stands.  However, we are in favor of development on the currently unused lot and we invite the developers to submit a revised proposal that would involve fewer units, or possibly a small number of single family homes

Submit a "revised proposal that would involve fewer units, or possibly a small number of single family homes"...aka less revenue-generating opportunity and no longer financially viable for the developer. Way to go blockies. 

 

Probably not a discussion for this thread, but from an outside perspective I've never understood why or how these "block clubs" are able to have any say in matters like this. I always thought they were for planning block parties.

If any of those block club members are on this forum, please PM me. I am looking for a fight today...I'd love to hear all of the sound arguments against development here ?

43 minutes ago, Clefan98 said:

* This is not an area where quality public transportation is readily accessible, and it is likely that the ratio of automobiles to units would be 1:1 or greater.  Access to parking would be via Wales Court, an alley accessible primarily from West 48th Street and secondarily through a network of other alleys within the block bounded by Franklin Boulevard, West 48th Street, Bridge Avenue, and West 50th Street.  We are concerned that neither these alleys nor the neighboring streets are equipped to handle the additional traffic that would result from this development.

 

It is literally one block south of the 26 bus line which runs 24/7. It's my primarily bus line and is absolutely one of the best ones on the west side. The inability to conceive of someone living in this exact location without a car is frustrating. It's more telling of the people speaking and how they have actually never made an effort to use transit as opposed to any actual lack of nearby transit.

Just make the residential streets permitted parking for residents and their guests. I personally have lived on a street like this and hated it, but I'm also not obsessed with parking.

Edited November 27, 20195 yr by jws

6 hours ago, jws said:

 

It is literally one block south of the 26 bus line which runs 24/7. It's my primarily bus line and is absolutely one of the best ones on the west side. The inability to conceive of someone living in this exact location without a car is frustrating. It's more telling of the people speaking and how they have actually never made an effort to use transit as opposed to any actual lack of nearby transit.

Just make the residential streets permitted parking for residents and their guests. I personally have lived on a street like this and hated it, but I'm also not obsessed with parking.

Yes, the public transportation remark is quite obnoxious.  Unless someone has a major walking problem, the entire Ohio City is pretty darned good for public transportation!  Was the writer thinking of big city districts with subway or train entrances at almost every intersection?  They're not exactly a necessity of life....

Edited November 27, 20195 yr by lafont

1 hour ago, Clefan98 said:

THE NIMBY'S STRIKE AGAIN:

 

All - 

 

On Thursday evening 11/23, Chad Kertesz of My Place Group presented his plans for developing the property at 4815 Franklin Blvd to the Ohio City Heights Block Club, which is the block club within the area that includes the currently vacant lot.

 

The attendees are listed below:

 

Lynn Pruitt

Fred Mowery (block club co-chair)

Cynthia and Venancio Camargo*

Steve Zamborski

Josh Jordan

Roger Scheve

Scott Staley

Mitch Pollack (block club co-chair)

Tricia Kachmyers (block club secretary)

*Note - the Camargos needed to leave before the project was discussed.

 

The above attendees are copied on this e-mail.  We have also bcc-ed all residents currently on the block club mailing list.

 

This e-mail was drafted by Mitch Pollack, with all attendees given the opportunity to provide input.

 

The attendees discussed the project and have come to the following conclusions:

 

- We believe My Place Group could be a responsible developer who would be an asset to our area.  They have demonstrated that they have the skills and experience to manage a rental development effectively.

 

- However, we believe the proposal, as it stands, would not be appropriate for our neighborhood for the following reasons:

 

* The density of the development (24 units on a lot of slightly less than 1/3 acre) would not fit well with the surrounding area, which is comprised of multi-family homes, single-family homes, smaller businesses, places of worship, and smaller apartment buildings. Current zoning is two-family.

 

* This is not an area where quality public transportation is readily accessible, and it is likely that the ratio of automobiles to units would be 1:1 or greater.  Access to parking would be via Wales Court, an alley accessible primarily from West 48th Street and secondarily through a network of other alleys within the block bounded by Franklin Boulevard, West 48th Street, Bridge Avenue, and West 50th Street.  We are concerned that neither these alleys nor the neighboring streets are equipped to handle the additional traffic that would result from this development.

 

* Additionally, only 20 parking spaces are proposed for the 24-unit building, and even with 20 spaces, the parking lot is extremely cramped.  Parking is limited and only available on the north side of Franklin Boulevard, and therefore we believe that it is likely that the development, as proposed, would lead to congestion and a parking shortage on West 48th Street to the south of Franklin Boulevard.

 

The developers' proposed solution to the problem - to ask the nearby Iglesia del Salvador if they would be willing to share their parking facilities with the development - does not appear to us to be a viable solution to this issue, as the ability of residents to use the church's parking would be subject to the whims of the church and would still lead to a parking shortage during those times when the church needs their lot. 

 

- For the above reasons, we are opposed to the proposal as it stands.  However, we are in favor of development on the currently unused lot and we invite the developers to submit a revised proposal that would involve fewer units, or possibly a small number of single family homes

 

I walk my dog past this lot every morning - my home is .12 miles from this proposed development. 

 

THERE IS A PERPETUALLY EMPTY PARKING LOT RIGHT ACROSS THE M*****F*****G STREET - On Sundays, during the week's only full-congregation service, there might be 15-18 extra cars in that lot. Additionally, as I said, I live within short walking distance and there is ALWAYS street parking available on my street. 

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4841613,-81.7200842,3a,75y,116.22h,77.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sD8AGfNZHpP59lgzfHYjJAA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 

 

^This is the parking lot that is used ONCE weekly that they're saying wouldn't be sufficient. 

 

Thank God most of these NIMBYs won't have standing in court if this goes through Zoning Appeals, as I'm sure few of them live in close enough proximity. 

8 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

 

 

 

Thank God most of these NIMBYs won't have standing in court if this goes through Zoning Appeals, as I'm sure few of them live in close enough proximity. 

More concerning in my mind is if the ward councilperson (don't know who it is here) tends to bow down to groups like this (for obvious political reasons), no matter how irrational their arguments or how little influence they actually have with the other voters in the ward, as the project proceeds through the review process.  That usually seems to be the big problems for developers throughout the city.

Just now, Htsguy said:

More concerning in my mind is if the ward councilperson (don't know who it is here) tends to bow down to groups like this (for obvious political reasons), no matter how irrational their arguments or how little influence they actually have with the other voters in the ward, as the project proceeds through the review process.  That usually seems to be the big problems for developers throughout the city.

 

Overall I think Kerry McCormick has done a good job balancing business and community interest, in my opinion. 

 

I hope he sees how ridiculous this complaint - particularly the parking aspect is. 

 

Additionally. It's .13 miles to the nearest bus stop from that parcel

Out of all the councilmen/women, at least this one is McCormack. Overall, I think most residents in his ward are very satisfied with his representation. I don't think he'll have any trouble ticking a few residents off for the greater good.

3 minutes ago, YO to the CLE said:

Out of all the councilmen/women, at least this one is McCormack. Overall, I think most residents in his ward are very satisfied with his representation. I don't think he'll have any trouble ticking a few residents off for the greater good.

 

Right - he tends to take a holistic look at our district, which I appreciate. 

 

Though, the West side of 50th is Zone's district, so his residents may have some things to say about the development too, given its proximity

"Public Transportation not readily available" HA!!!!!

 

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Detroit+Av+%26+w+49th+St/Iglesia+Del+Salvador,+4801+Franklin+Blvd,+Cleveland,+OH+44102/@41.4854411,-81.7229385,661m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x8830f0468c125b51:0xd3f536b69198de8f!2m2!1d-81.72087!2d41.486466!1m5!1m1!1s0x8830f04710ce1481:0x6984d63555b97b9c!2m2!1d-81.72022!2d41.4843606!3e2

 

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Lorain+Av+%26+w+50th+St/Iglesia+Del+Salvador,+4801+Franklin+Blvd,+Cleveland,+OH+44102/@41.4807683,-81.721922,935m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x8830f0397fbb8c41:0x2bf09c03b201d29!2m2!1d-81.721165!2d41.477679!1m5!1m1!1s0x8830f04710ce1481:0x6984d63555b97b9c!2m2!1d-81.72022!2d41.4843606!3e2

 

TWO BUSLINES WITHIN A HALF MILE. Not to mention the dozens of scooters on Franklin

 

Lol I hate NIMBYs I wish you hadn't shown me this. 

22 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

"Public Transportation not readily available" HA!!!!!

 

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Detroit+Av+%26+w+49th+St/Iglesia+Del+Salvador,+4801+Franklin+Blvd,+Cleveland,+OH+44102/@41.4854411,-81.7229385,661m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x8830f0468c125b51:0xd3f536b69198de8f!2m2!1d-81.72087!2d41.486466!1m5!1m1!1s0x8830f04710ce1481:0x6984d63555b97b9c!2m2!1d-81.72022!2d41.4843606!3e2

 

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Lorain+Av+%26+w+50th+St/Iglesia+Del+Salvador,+4801+Franklin+Blvd,+Cleveland,+OH+44102/@41.4807683,-81.721922,935m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x8830f0397fbb8c41:0x2bf09c03b201d29!2m2!1d-81.721165!2d41.477679!1m5!1m1!1s0x8830f04710ce1481:0x6984d63555b97b9c!2m2!1d-81.72022!2d41.4843606!3e2

 

TWO BUSLINES WITHIN A HALF MILE. Not to mention the dozens of scooters on Franklin

 

Lol I hate NIMBYs I wish you hadn't shown me this. 

 

You should join this block club. You're definitely within their jurisdiction.

On the subject of Ohio City NIMBY's, does anyone know what happen at the Nov. 11th Board of Zoning Appeals hearing regarding the Knez townhouse project at 4705 Bridge Avenue?  I note that one of the block club members listed above (Steven Zamborsky) was one of the people challenging the Planning Commissions approval of that project.  Some people apparently have a lot of time on their hands.

I live in Franklin-Clinton’s jurisdiction, just missed out on this one by a few blocks I guess. They say you need one of those Polar Pops spiked with whiskey to get through the meetings tho.

While I'm happy to see the new development in OC, not all projects developers propose are necessarily the best for the neighborhood (especially as first proposed).  I don't know the details of this development and I don't live in this block club area. I'm not commenting specifically regarding this project but I think it's good to have a platform for community input whether by block club or other means.

6 hours ago, Htsguy said:

On the subject of Ohio City NIMBY's, does anyone know what happen at the Nov. 11th Board of Zoning Appeals hearing regarding the Knez townhouse project at 4705 Bridge Avenue?  I note that one of the block club members listed above (Steven Zamborsky) was one of the people challenging the Planning Commissions approval of that project.  Some people apparently have a lot of time on their hands.

Obviously he’s worried his outdated, unkept place in a quickly progressing neighborhood will reduce in value if there’s competition from new, modernized real estate. 
 

I call it “Little Italy Syndrome”. ?

15 minutes ago, Clevecane said:

Obviously he’s worried his outdated, unkept place in a quickly progressing neighborhood will reduce in value if there’s competition from new, modernized real estate. 
 

I call it “Little Italy Syndrome”. ?

And on that note I am still trying to find out what happen at the same (Nov 11th) Board of Zoning Appeals Hearing in connection with the Washington Inn apartment building on Cornell (challenge to Landmarks approval of the project).  I don't understand why the results are not posted on the Boards website just the agenda.

15 hours ago, Clevecane said:

Obviously he’s worried his outdated, unkept place in a quickly progressing neighborhood will reduce in value if there’s competition from new, modernized real estate. 
 

I call it “Little Italy Syndrome”. ?

The project should spif up the block and sort of extend the "Ohio City vibe."  I note the houses on that block of Franklin are bland compared to those east of West 47th Street.

Does anyone know what's going on with the Rhodes House on Franklin?  For many months I had pictured the Rhodes and Sanford Houses to be redeveloped simultaneously, and now one is gloriously finished and the other is still a blot on the scene, with all the peeling paint and discoloration on the exterior, etc.  Also, who owns the corner parking lot to the west?  That could look a whole lot better.

I know someone commented on this a few months ago, but is West 28th Street, coming from the south, supposed to remain detached from the rebuilt Franklin Circle?  If so I think it's a shame. Just a nuisance.

On 11/30/2019 at 8:32 AM, lafont said:

I know someone commented on this a few months ago, but is West 28th Street, coming from the south, supposed to remain detached from the rebuilt Franklin Circle?  If so I think it's a shame. Just a nuisance.

It will remain detached yes, and I agree it is a shame.

I hope they at least make it easier to get a bike through there.

5 minutes ago, viscomi said:

I hope they at least make it easier to get a bike through there.

 

Agreed - I'm not sure if its some weird safety issue in re: to the hospital, but it doesn't make sense as is. And, as you point out, it's really not very pedestrian / bike friendly either. 

21 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

 

Agreed - I'm not sure if its some weird safety issue in re: to the hospital, but it doesn't make sense as is. And, as you point out, it's really not very pedestrian / bike friendly either. 

doesn’t really look like they will be doing much at all except connecting the sidewalk on Fulton all the way around.

13 minutes ago, Enginerd said:

doesn’t really look like they will be doing much at all except connecting the sidewalk on Fulton all the way around.

Is Lutheran’s drop off canopy getting removed for this?

1 hour ago, marty15 said:

Is Lutheran’s drop off canopy getting removed for this?

It does not appear so, no. There will be a minor realignment of their driveway and sidewalk on the Fulton side but that’s it.

Good luck patronizing West 25th businesses today unless you can find a street spot. Lot closed for no apparent reason. 

 

Edited January 7, 20205 yr by marty15

3 hours ago, marty15 said:

Good luck patronizing West 25th businesses today unless you can find a street spot. Lot closed for no apparent reason. 

 

Maybe dirtbike/ATV day at the market?  ?

I never park in the West Side Market lot since they started charging, on principle.  I typically park down Bridge Avenue, sometimes around W. 28, or one of the side streets south of Lorain.  The management of the Dave's has the nerve to now allow one to park there except when they are buying inside the store  - not such a common policy, fortunately.  In other words, one can go into the store, come out with groceries, and not be able to stay in the lot any longer if one has more neighborhood shopping to do.  Someone working in the lots watches out for it.  Even if there are many spots in the lot.

So if the machines are broken, they’d rather hurt businesses and let no one park there. Another City of Cleveland failure.

2 minutes ago, marty15 said:

So if the machines are broken, they’d rather hurt businesses and let no one park there. Another City of Cleveland failure.

If I was a vendor I'd saw those gates right off.

How much of the block between Clinton, W. 28th, Church, and W.29th is supposed to be occupied with the new apartment house project?  Thanks.

5 hours ago, lafont said:

How much of the block between Clinton, W. 28th, Church, and W.29th is supposed to be occupied with the new apartment house project?  Thanks.

They bought almost the whole block from the vibrator company. And between the new apartment building, new parking, and green spaces,

I believe they will use most of the block except for a couple of the parcels they didn't buy.

Edited January 3, 20205 yr by Larry1962
Typos

Thank you.  Any idea how far this proposal has gotten and what the chances are of it's succeeding?  I think it will be the factor to give the vicinity of basically an "apartment district" with some houses mixed in, rather than visa versa, and that's fine with yours truly. 

2 hours ago, lafont said:

Thank you.  Any idea how far this proposal has gotten and what the chances are of it's succeeding?  I think it will be the factor to give the vicinity of basically an "apartment district" with some houses mixed in, rather than visa versa, and that's fine with yours truly. 

From what I heard they are hard at work behind the scenes, but it will be a while before construction will began.  You never know for sure about these projects until shovels are in the ground but I think this one will be built, I'll just take some time.

Snavely Phase 3

Dexter Place at Franklin Circle

In the next couple of days I'm going to take some pics of recent rehabs and new builds on the Ohio City/Gordon Sq boarders. If you have driven down any of the streets from w44-w65 between Lorain and Detroit lately, you will be amazed at the amount of construction going on. These smaller developments don't get mentioned enough/a lot but the level of investment dollars totals up into the tens of millions. Stay tuned....

Edited January 7, 20205 yr by Clefan98

2 hours ago, marty15 said:

Snavely Phase 3

How many floors will this be?  I wish they'd always supply a prospective drawing..

^ 5 floors

Edited January 7, 20205 yr by Clefan98

12 minutes ago, lafont said:

How many floors will this be?  I wish they'd always supply a prospective drawing..

 

Drawings of this phase are posted in this thread.

2 hours ago, Clefan98 said:

In the next couple of days I'm going to take some pics of recent rehabs and new builds on the Ohio City/Gordon Sq boarders. If you have driven down any of the streets from w44-w65 between Lorain and Detroit lately, you will be amazed at the amount of construction going on. These smaller developments don't get mentioned enough/a lot but the level of investment dollars totals up into the tens of millions. Stay tuned....

I noticed this project has currently started construction. 58th & Herman

http://solocle.com/the-slate/

 

And also the foundation for the next phase of the Urban Community School on Lorain is being put it. 48th & Lorain 

 

 

 

Edited January 7, 20205 yr by marty15