October 16, 20204 yr 3 hours ago, YABO713 said: Does anyone know what's going on at 50th and Lorain on the Northwest corner? There have been construction crews there non-stop and its been fenced off for the better part of 6 months. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2019/02/06/cents-pizzeria-to-open-this-summer-on-eastern-edge-of-detroit-shoreway%3fmedia=AMP%2bHTML
October 16, 20204 yr I will always be bothered by the name Detroit-Shoreway being used to cover a huge section of what has been traditionally considered Ohio City. If you use a bang name to define an area, it should remain within the confines of the name. Between Detroit and the Shoreway, not and also everything past Lorain into Stockyards. I am however pleased to see that a new pizza place is opening. Now if only something better opened on the near east side.
October 20, 20204 yr Looks like Harbor 44 is getting the former Market Plaza Sherwin Williams Sherwin-Williams paint store to anchor new building in Cleveland’s Ohio City neighborhood Eric Heisig - Oct. 20, 2020 "The two-story building, which developers James Asimes and Tommy Hasson call “Harbor 44,” will be 22,000 square feet perched at Lorain Avenue and West 44th Street, part of a stretch of one of the city’s main thoroughfares. Construction on the new building, which will feature a mix of retail and office space, began Friday and is set for completion by March. Asimes estimated the development will cost $5 million and is banking on its prime location on Lorain Avenue and easy highway access as being attractive to both commuters and customers." https://www.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2020/10/sherwin-williams-paint-store-to-anchor-new-building-in-clevelands-ohio-city-neighborhood.html
October 21, 20204 yr Yes, please - there's going to be a lot of action to watch on Lorain Ave! Case 20-056: Lorain Avenue Historic District 4500 Lorain Avenue Demolition Ward 3: McCormack Project Representatives: Robert Powell, Richard Benton, Arkinetics; Chris Jacinski, CRJ Services CONCEPT PLAN 2.Case 20-057:Lorain Avenue Historic District 4500 Lorain Avenue New Construction of Commercial Building and Townhouses Ward 3: McCormack Project Representatives: Robert Powell, Richard Benton, Arkinetics
October 21, 20204 yr So the old building next to Forest City Shuffleboard is going to be demolished? That's a shame. It's a nice looking building. Is there some severe structural issue or something? I hope the replacement construction is something worthy of replacing it.
October 21, 20204 yr 4 hours ago, PoshSteve said: So the old building next to Forest City Shuffleboard is going to be demolished? That's a shame. It's a nice looking building. Is there some severe structural issue or something? I hope the replacement construction is something worthy of replacing it. Knowing who's involved with this project, I have no doubt the new construction will justify the tear down. Edited October 22, 20204 yr by Clefan98
October 22, 20204 yr 2 hours ago, PoshSteve said: So the old building next to Forest City Shuffleboard is going to be demolished? That's a shame. It's a nice looking building. Is there some severe structural issue or something? I hope the replacement construction is something worthy of replacing it. The portfolio of the architect doesn’t inspire much confidence https://www.arkinetics.com/portfolio/sector/hospitality/
October 22, 20204 yr 32 minutes ago, bumsquare said: The portfolio of the architect doesn’t inspire much confidence https://www.arkinetics.com/portfolio/sector/hospitality/ Lucky for us it's not a hotel going there. 3 hours ago, PoshSteve said: So the old building next to Forest City Shuffleboard is going to be demolished? That's a shame. It's a nice looking building. Is there some severe structural issue or something? I hope the replacement construction is something worthy of replacing it. I was able to confirm the foundation needed an estimated 300k in repairs just to make it structurally sound. In other news, we should see renderings for a substantial townhome/condo proposal on w47 and Lorain very soon. It'll be at least 4 stories in height and will be priced at the higher end of the market. Edited October 22, 20204 yr by Clefan98
October 22, 20204 yr From what I've seen of the 4500 Lorain replacement, it's essentially the same as what's there now along Lorain... 2 story masonry. Behind that though is 4, 3 story townhouses. Personally, I would like to see existing building rehabbed. I used to get my hair cut there. But the good news is the replacement plan isn't half bad. Edited October 22, 20204 yr by viscomi
October 22, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, Clefan98 said: Lucky for us it's not a hotel going there. I was able to confirm the foundation needed an estimated 300k in repairs just to make it structurally sound. In other news, we should see renderings for a substantial townhome/condo proposal on w47 and Lorain very soon. It'll be at least 4 stories in height and will be priced at the higher end of the market. Well which of the projects on their website did you find compelling?
October 22, 20204 yr 8 hours ago, bumsquare said: Well which of the projects on their website did you find compelling? Their work on the black pearl district in Lorain was pretty good. Market creations cafe in Chicago hits the mark as well. Locally, they've worked on Crop, TH and Taza. Moving on.... Edited October 22, 20204 yr by Clefan98
October 22, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, Clefan98 said: Their work on the black pearl district in Lorain was pretty good. Market creations cafe in Chicago hits the mark as well. Locally, they've worked on Crop, TH and Taza. Moving on.... What I think of when you say "Black Pearl".... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 22, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, Clefan98 said: Their work on the black pearl district in Lorain was pretty good. Market creations cafe in Chicago hits the mark as well. Locally, they've worked on Crop, TH and Taza. Moving on.... They didn’t build any of those though, right? Those projects you mentioned appear to be mostly interior construction. I could be wrong. I’m only going by what I’ve seen on their website. I think it’s ok to be concerned that a firm that has mostly built gas stations and freeway motels is going to be tearing a building down and replacing it on a major thoroughfare in a rapidly developing neighborhood. 🤷♀️
October 22, 20204 yr 52 minutes ago, bumsquare said: They didn’t build any of those though, right? Those projects you mentioned appear to be mostly interior construction. I could be wrong. I’m only going by what I’ve seen on their website. I think it’s ok to be concerned that a firm that has mostly built gas stations and freeway motels is going to be tearing a building down and replacing it on a major thoroughfare in a rapidly developing neighborhood. 🤷♀️ Their restaurant and retail work stands out the most to me. Their work seems very forgettable in the office and industrial space based on their portfolio...but industrial users are not the first to prioritize sexy. The hotels look like any others, but brand standards for 2.5 star hotels don't really call for creativity. This project's before/after pictures gave me some respect for their work within the urban fabric: https://www.arkinetics.com/portfolio/metropolitan-coffee/. Most of the projects of theirs I DO like are all in the urban core. I don't know that we have to fear that every project is doomed to look like an exurban gas station or strip mall. Hopefully. The interior design and finishes from their industrial and office portfolio really contrasts with their restaurant interior design, which leads me to hope that these are byproducts of the tastes and budgets of their clients. Bright spots to me seem to be Market creations cafe, Crop Bar & Bistro, Taza Lebanese Grill, etc. I think it helps to remember that Geis is based out of Streetsboro and has a strong presence in industrial as their bread and butter, but that's not what UrbanOhio discussions focus on when it comes to their work. I'm not sure why this has to be any different, per se. Likewise, Knez may be based out of Painesville, but they don't copy/paste their work right into Cleveland (though they do re-use designs to cut down on red tape). Edited October 22, 20204 yr by infrafreak forgot the link to metropolitan coffee
October 22, 20204 yr I took some screenshots from the meeting. Demolition was tabled. There was a lot of debate and dissent against demolishing the historic structure.
October 22, 20204 yr The proposed brick structure is nice. I'd definitely love to see this in an empty lot on Lorain, though it's bittersweet considering it'd just replace another brick structure of the same height. But dear God are those townhomes ugly.
October 22, 20204 yr 26 minutes ago, tykaps said: The proposed brick structure is nice. I'd definitely love to see this in an empty lot on Lorain, though it's bittersweet considering it'd just replace another brick structure of the same height. But dear God are those townhomes ugly. It’s probably brick siding though, no? It looks to me like they’re replacing an older, bigger brick and masonry building with a pretty generic brick siding and vinyl structure.
October 22, 20204 yr 21 minutes ago, bumsquare said: It’s probably brick siding though, no? It looks to me like they’re replacing an older, bigger brick and masonry building with a pretty generic brick siding and vinyl structure. Correct. I personally don't mind brick siding, keeps historic character while maintaining costs since brick masonry isn't feasible today. The townhomes design, on the other hand, is extremely disappointing. And those garage doors taking up most of their streetfront presence don't help. Edit: siding not veneer Edited October 22, 20204 yr by tykaps
October 22, 20204 yr 3 minutes ago, yanni_gogolak said: Brick siding? Brick veneer and brick masonry are the same thing. Brick is clay actually, so it's clay masonry. Brick veneer just means the outside face the wall is brick (clay masonry). That's my bad then. Fixed it. Thanks!
October 22, 20204 yr I listened in on that meeting a little today too. Agree the townhouses are bad, especially the garage entrances along 45th but was happy to hear (Kerry Freakin McCormack I think it was) say that a configuration like that is a non-starter in this neighborhood 👏
October 22, 20204 yr Well the corner building passes for me. When considering the extensive foundation issues of the current structure, this is a decent replacement. I do like the asymmetrical second story porch. The only thing that really bothers me about the townhouses is all the curb cuts. I'm not sure how that could be reconfigured though, considering the small lot size. At least its a side street.
October 22, 20204 yr On 10/21/2020 at 6:00 PM, Clefan98 said: Knowing who's involved with this project, I have no doubt the new construction will justify the tear down. Swing and a miss. 5 hours ago, tykaps said:
October 22, 20204 yr 43 minutes ago, Clefan98 said: I can only hope constructive comments like this make you feel better about yourself. So, I thought Jim Miketo was behind this project given it's right next to Shuffleboard. Last night I learned he was not, and that his townhome project is going up on the other corner of Lorain (47th). That's the project I thought I was vouching for. I've seen those renderings and they are MUCH better than what's being presented here. Which corner of Lorain and 47th? Wasn't something announced for the NE corner a while back?
October 23, 20204 yr 10 hours ago, X said: Which corner of Lorain and 47th? Wasn't something announced for the NE corner a while back? Yes, that's the corner I was referring to but I don't think anything has been officially announced yet. They're submitting the plans to the city soon. Edited October 23, 20204 yr by Clefan98
October 23, 20204 yr 16 hours ago, Clefan98 said: Yes, that's the corner I was referring to but I don't think anything has been officially announced yet. They're submitting the plans to the city soon. Is the plan on that corner just for townhouses now? I could have sworn I heard, and possibly from the last time I spoke to Jim, there was going to be a mixed-use element as well.
October 23, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, viscomi said: Is the plan on that corner just for townhouses now? I could have sworn I heard, and possibly from the last time I spoke to Jim, there was going to be a mixed-use element as well. That's correct, first level will be commercial with 3-story townhomes above.
October 25, 20204 yr First Bailey Bridge townhomes are up on zillow. Not as much of a fan with the higher detail on these renderings. Hopefully in real life they look a bit better. I'll take the extra density over an overgrown junkyard any day though. $330k for 1,362sf... $242.3/sf https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/2077372598_zpid/
October 25, 20204 yr They don't look terrible. They don't look extraordinary either. Still good quality infill and added density and residents. I'm glad they are starting with the section closest to the road. Drives me crazy when multi-phased townhouse developments start with the buildings furthest away, and then we still have a dirt lot fronting the road for months or years (or decades in the cases of some of the unfinished ones).
November 2, 20204 yr On 10/15/2020 at 5:55 PM, Enginerd said: @YABO713 it will be open by the end of the month ??
November 2, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, YABO713 said: My info was from a City inspector overseeing the work, but I’ll take shame 😔
November 2, 20204 yr Not much concrete info but there was some activity over the weekend on Twitter suggesting that demolition related to Irishtown Bend should be starting very soon.
November 5, 20204 yr COhatch redeveloping former nightclub in Cleveland’s Ohio City as a different kind of co-working site https://www.cleveland.com/news/2020/11/cohatch-redeveloping-former-nightclub-in-clevelands-ohio-city-as-a-different-kind-of-co-working-site.html CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Matt Davis and his colleagues at COhatch are planning to bring their unique brand of co-working space to Cleveland’s Ohio City neighborhood by June. COhatch is redeveloping the former Bounce Nightclub at 2814 Detroit Ave. as a co-working location that includes 35 private offices, five or six meeting rooms, event space and a food and beverage partner. The first Cleveland location — there already is an East Side location in the works and two more Cleveland-area locations on the drawing board — also will have a green screen members can use to shoot video and a podcast room. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
November 10, 20204 yr Given the exciting news regarding the Bridgeworks Development in Ohio City, does anyone know if there are plans for the blighted property at the SE corner of Detroit and W 25th? I know the property lists to Riverbed West LLC who is the contractor for the Irishtown Bend Park project. I’m hoping that property is completely renovated or demolished to serve as a entrance for the park.
November 11, 20204 yr Certainly looks like they’re about to break ground on the Knez apartment development on Franklin between 48th and 50th. trailer is straight up on the sidewalk by the way
November 12, 20204 yr On 11/10/2020 at 4:06 PM, Sapper Daddy said: Given the exciting news regarding the Bridgeworks Development in Ohio City, does anyone know if there are plans for the blighted property at the SE corner of Detroit and W 25th? I know the property lists to Riverbed West LLC who is the contractor for the Irishtown Bend Park project. I’m hoping that property is completely renovated or demolished to serve as a entrance for the park. No plans to develop it that I'm aware of. Owner Bobby George probably won't be able to develop it. I can't see the city giving him the variances he'll need when the city's land use plan for site is a public park. Given the condition of the property and the public purpose of the planned Irishtown Bend Park, the city, county or Metroparks may have a legal justification to appropriate the property by eminent domain. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 12, 20204 yr 7 hours ago, KJP said: No plans to develop it that I'm aware of. Owner Bobby George probably won't be able to develop it. I can't see the city giving him the variances he'll need when the city's land use plan for site is a public park. Given the condition of the property and the public purpose of the planned Irishtown Bend Park, the city, county or Metroparks may have a legal justification to appropriate the property by eminent domain. I hope they do given the terms under which he acquired the land... but it will be REALLY difficult for them when the land is generating revenue via that stupid billboard.
November 12, 20204 yr 15 hours ago, YABO713 said: Certainly looks like they’re about to break ground on the Knez apartment development on Franklin between 48th and 50th. trailer is straight up on the sidewalk by the way Does anyone have the final renderings for what this project is supposed to look like?
November 12, 20204 yr 9 hours ago, KJP said: No plans to develop it that I'm aware of. Owner Bobby George probably won't be able to develop it. I can't see the city giving him the variances he'll need when the city's land use plan for site is a public park. Given the condition of the property and the public purpose of the planned Irishtown Bend Park, the city, county or Metroparks may have a legal justification to appropriate the property by eminent domain. Eminent domain may take a while... I remember hearing that the Mayor would be unwilling to do any other eminent domain cases since after the East Bank hearings. In the short term if folks want to see the building and site cleaned up, I would recommend calling (showering with calls, really) Building and Housing at 216-664-2282. With the amount of investment occurring at the intersection and on down Detroit, the City should be on the owner about cleaning up the site.
November 12, 20204 yr 2 minutes ago, Oldmanladyluck said: Eminent domain may take a while... I remember hearing that the Mayor would be unwilling to do any other eminent domain cases since after the East Bank hearings. In the short term if folks want to see the building and site cleaned up, I would recommend calling (showering with calls, really) Building and Housing at 216-664-2282. With the amount of investment occurring at the intersection and on down Detroit, the City should be on the owner about cleaning up the site. Even if the complaints don't result in the owner cleaning up the site, the complaints do bolster the city's (or other public entity's) case to appropriate the property. And yes eminent domain will take a long time. Doing nothing will take even longer. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 12, 20204 yr 3 minutes ago, KJP said: Even if the complaints don't result in the owner cleaning up the site, the complaints do bolster the city's (or other public entity's) case to appropriate the property. And yes eminent domain will take a long time. Doing nothing will take even longer. May I remind you, @KJP, that Bobby George "is not a socialist", so it's completely reasonable for him to ask for 1200% more than what he paid for the parcel, despite adding no capital improvements.
November 12, 20204 yr 3 hours ago, YABO713 said: May I remind you, @KJP, that Bobby George "is not a socialist", so it's completely reasonable for him to ask for 1200% more than what he paid for the parcel, despite adding no capital improvements. And that doesn't include any financial "contributions" to the democratic process.... Edited November 12, 20204 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 12, 20204 yr 10 minutes ago, YABO713 said: May I remind you, @KJP, that Bobby George "is not a socialist", so it's completely reasonable for him to ask for 1200% more than what he paid for the parcel, despite adding no capital improvements. I hope he drowns in attorney fees. Of course nothing wrong with lawyers making lots of $$😝
November 12, 20204 yr 2 hours ago, YABO713 said: Does anyone have the final renderings for what this project is supposed to look like? Is this the one next to the church? If it is I think its My Place Group doing these. Here are the renderings from their website. There was a Crains article the other day saying they are starting construction on this project and the one at 41st and Lorain soon.
November 12, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, TDi said: Is this the one next to the church? If it is I think its My Place Group doing these. Here are the renderings from their website. There was a Crains article the other day saying they are starting construction on this project and the one at 41st and Lorain soon. Thanks! Yes it's in the lot next to the church. And I will gladly give up the lot where I play fetch with my dog for some development. I wonder how many units it will be
November 12, 20204 yr 29 minutes ago, YABO713 said: Thanks! Yes it's in the lot next to the church. And I will gladly give up the lot where I play fetch with my dog for some development. I wonder how many units it will be The article said 24 units I believe, all one bedrooms.
November 12, 20204 yr Let's hope that congregation sold them the lot, and uses the money to restore what I am sure used to be a very lovely church. I cannot find an historic picture of it, but know it used to be St. Mark's Episcopal 100 years ago....
November 12, 20204 yr 17 minutes ago, gruver said: Let's hope that congregation sold them the lot, and uses the money to restore what I am sure used to be a very lovely church. I cannot find an historic picture of it, but know it used to be St. Mark's Episcopal 100 years ago.... There have been renovations non-stop the last 3 months. New sidewalk, new windows (though they covered the stained glass with a dark tinted plastic and I hate it) and a re-sealed parking lot.
November 12, 20204 yr 23 minutes ago, YABO713 said: There have been renovations non-stop the last 3 months. New sidewalk, new windows (though they covered the stained glass with a dark tinted plastic and I hate it) and a re-sealed parking lot. Could that be protection from the renovations? A sandblaster can clean that stone facade beautifully, but would destroy a stained glass window.
November 12, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, Growth Mindset said: Could that be protection from the renovations? A sandblaster can clean that stone facade beautifully, but would destroy a stained glass window. No, it's on both sides of the building and took a couple weeks to install. It's a shame, really.
November 13, 20204 yr https://www.hotel-online.com/press_releases/release/hotel-management-company-rfq-for-a-new-build-branded-lifestyle-hotel-in-the-ohio-city-neighborhood-of-cleveland-ohio/ Hotel Management Company RFQ for a New-Build, Branded Lifestyle Hotel in the Ohio City Neighborhood of Cleveland, Ohio November 12, 2020 On behalf of and by direction of a Cleveland, Ohio-based commercial real estate development firm, Newmark Valuation & Advisory is pleased to request qualifications from experienced hotel management companies for a hotel development in the Ohio City neighborhood of Cleveland, Ohio. Mixed-use developments at the site are planned to include market-rate apartments, leased retail and restaurant space, and the new-build hotel. The developer is seeking an operator for the hotel component only. Within the Request for Qualifications (RFQ), we provide an overview of the developer, summarize details regarding the proposed hotel and overall project, outline recommendations from the feasibility analysis, and define the scope of services expected from a third-party hotel management company. This RFQ is the pre-qualification stage of the procurement process. Only those applicants who successfully respond to the RFQ and meet the qualification criteria will be included in the subsequent Request for Proposals (RFP) solicitation process. Submissions will be reviewed and forwarded to the development firm. A copy the feasibility study will be provided to those firms deemed most qualified. Interested parties should contact Laurel Keller, MAI, Senior Vice President in the Hospitality, Gaming & Leisure practice, at [email protected] for a copy of the RFQ. Submissions are due by 5:00 PM EST on Monday, November 30, 2020.
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