February 28, 20223 yr On 2/23/2022 at 11:28 AM, Special_K said: It would be great if some of these huts could adopt a micro retail model similar to what they are doing in the Seaport neighborhood in Boston. They already did that in the Warehouse District. https://www.cleveland.com/business/2013/11/shipping_containers_at_center.html
February 28, 20223 yr BZA today unanimously denied a request by three homeowners near 4705 Bridge Ave. (Knez development) to reconsider its Feb. 14 reversal of the Planning Commission's decision to deny Knez's application to build townhouses at 4705 Bridge. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 28, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, KJP said: BZA today unanimously denied a request by three homeowners near 4705 Bridge Ave. (Knez development) to reconsider its Feb. 14 reversal of the Planning Commission's decision to deny Knez's application to build townhouses at 4705 Bridge. I believe somebody recently posted a picture showing a construction fence already surrounding the property. I was surprised Knez moved so fast as the BZA decision was less than 2 weeks ago. I wondering if this action is purposeful to stymie a potential appeal. I believe there is some case law out there making an appeal more difficult if construction has already begun. Moreover, the necessary bond for a possible successful stay of construction during a pending appeal could get very expensive similar to what was happening in the Lakeside Supply matter in Little Italy. This could be another reason to start construction quickly as I cannot believe these neighbors have the resources, especially if they lose the appeal and Knez goes after the bond for delay costs.
March 1, 20223 yr On 2/27/2022 at 6:56 PM, Htsguy said: I wonder who thought those tree planters were a good idea. They remind me of those ugly concrete planters that lined Euclid for so many years with 50% leafless trees by July 1 but "decorated" with lots of discarded McDonalds garbage year round. I would agree... An easy solution instead of replacing them would be to commission local artists to paint these. Not sure if that's even viable with that type of plastic though?
March 1, 20223 yr On 2/24/2022 at 11:15 AM, Clefan98 said: Correct, the townhomes lining Lorain have added coworking space along the first level to meet city codes. Look for shovels in the ground next week! Is this project going to (hopefully) include demo of the Kelly Auto site? I'd love to be able to start cutting down on the number of shady used car dealers on Lorain. They just add a skeevy element that doesn't contribute much of anything.
March 1, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, BJBaes said: Is this project going to (hopefully) include demo of the Kelly Auto site? I'd love to be able to start cutting down on the number of shady used car dealers on Lorain. They just add a skeevy element that doesn't contribute much of anything. It is not! I believe they said they will be taking the west half of the parking lot so it will certainly be a smaller footprint. Still hoping someone buys Byright Auto Sales... the building is for sale.
March 1, 20223 yr 12 minutes ago, downtownjoe said: It is not! I believe they said they will be taking the west half of the parking lot so it will certainly be a smaller footprint. Still hoping someone buys Byright Auto Sales... the building is for sale. I hope so. There are currently FIVE of these sleazy used car lots just between 41st and 47th. These types of places are known for being parasitic on their communities all while knowingly selling broken down cars in bad faith. Edited March 1, 20223 yr by BJBaes
March 1, 20223 yr 39 minutes ago, BJBaes said: I hope so. There are currently FIVE of these sleazy used car lots just between 41st and 47th. These types of places are known for being parasitic on their communities all while knowingly selling broken down cars in bad faith. Problem is they make lots of money and they have no place to go if they move. The ones on Lorain are grandfathered into prime locations in Cleveland. New zoning has ensured no new ones but also made existing locations more valuable. Lots of places have prohibited them.
March 1, 20223 yr On 2/28/2022 at 12:06 PM, KJP said: BZA today unanimously denied a request by three homeowners near 4705 Bridge Ave. (Knez development) to reconsider its Feb. 14 reversal of the Planning Commission's decision to deny Knez's application to build townhouses at 4705 Bridge. did anyone have to reread this 10 times to make sure they knew which way they landed? denied a request to reconsider a reversal of a denial to build. too many flip-flops for my brain lol. Shows how long the process is for some of these developments!
March 1, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, dwolfi01 said: did anyone have to reread this 10 times to make sure they knew which way they landed? denied a request to reconsider a reversal of a denial to build. too many flip-flops for my brain lol. Shows how long the process is for some of these developments! I had a real problem trying to write that and not sound like instructions on how to build a self-destructive device... Writing about this in the past was even more tough until the Knez attorney laid it out for me in a simple chronological order. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 6, 20223 yr On 2/28/2022 at 12:06 PM, KJP said: BZA today unanimously denied a request by three homeowners near 4705 Bridge Ave. (Knez development) to reconsider its Feb. 14 reversal of the Planning Commission's decision to deny Knez's application to build townhouses at 4705 Bridge. Let the digging begin!
March 10, 20223 yr Sorry, a long time between articles! Lots of terrible distractions.... Cleveland Vibrator site attracts new buyer By Ken Prendergast / March 10, 2022 Ownership of the former Cleveland Vibrator site, one of the few under-developed yet large properties in the booming Hingetown section of Cleveland’s Ohio City neighborhood, is set to transfer to a new ownership group as early as next month. The group is comprised of multiple heavy hitters in Greater Cleveland’s business community. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2022/03/10/cleveland-vibrator-site-attracts-new-buyer/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 11, 20223 yr 50 minutes ago, urb-a-saurus said: Not sure if previously posted, but Knez WCS up at W 47th and Lorain. Yes, posted above. No work done on that property yet but their property on 47th and Bridge has begun. They are actively digging.
March 11, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, KJP said: Sorry, a long time between articles! Lots of terrible distractions.... Cleveland Vibrator site attracts new buyer By Ken Prendergast / March 10, 2022 Ownership of the former Cleveland Vibrator site, one of the few under-developed yet large properties in the booming Hingetown section of Cleveland’s Ohio City neighborhood, is set to transfer to a new ownership group as early as next month. The group is comprised of multiple heavy hitters in Greater Cleveland’s business community. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2022/03/10/cleveland-vibrator-site-attracts-new-buyer/ This is great news! Only downside I saw in the article was this quote: "However, a vertical development like the neighboring, 11-story Church+State is apparently not in the cards owing to the larger property involved, the sources said." Would love more height in Hingetown. I think it would compliment the city great to have a huge downtown on one side of the river and a smaller scale one right across the bridge. I wonder what they consider vertical development. I'd be happy if it was similiar to neighboring projects like 5 stories. Prime location for some more fun restaurants and retail.
March 11, 20223 yr I’m not sure why, but I thought the Vibrator Company moved to a suburb. Glad to see I was mistaken. Hoping they can do something cool with this property.
March 11, 20223 yr shaking with that good vibrator site news. 😂 with the owner group hands its in this redevelopment is as guaranteed as you could hope to be of high quality. let's hope for mixed use with some height -- if not 11 stories, then like 7-10 would be a nice presence -- but i would guess even lower rise will be very cool/nice.
March 11, 20223 yr 10 hours ago, dwolfi01 said: This is great news! Only downside I saw in the article was this quote: "However, a vertical development like the neighboring, 11-story Church+State is apparently not in the cards owing to the larger property involved, the sources said." Would love more height in Hingetown. I think it would compliment the city great to have a huge downtown on one side of the river and a smaller scale one right across the bridge. I wonder what they consider vertical development. I'd be happy if it was similiar to neighboring projects like 5 stories. Prime location for some more fun restaurants and retail. Your desire (and mine) for height on the fringes of Ohio City may run into an obstacle, that being the chairperson of the Landmarks Commission. I recall her commenting (although I am failing to remember how she eventually voted) that Bridgeworks was too tall and it is more or less downtown. Of course she regularly expresses opinions that something is too tall all over town (another example of many, Waverly and Oaks). She of course is only one person and one vote, but the whole Commission is generally clueless. By the way, I would like to see multi family of 20 stories or more on those W25th hospital lots. Edited March 11, 20223 yr by Htsguy
March 11, 20223 yr The height district here is 2, which is 60 feet. And it's a big site. Even with a significant ground level public space, a lot of units can be supplied here with a 5- to 6-story building covering much of a 1.7 acre lot. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 11, 20223 yr the more people and mixed use things to do the better -- height is definitely down the list.
March 11, 20223 yr I think it could be a little taller than the Dexter, maybe 7-8 stories. Save the tall stuff for the hospital parking lots over looking Irishtown.
March 11, 20223 yr As a Dexter resident, I selfishly hope it’s not a high rise. I love our unobstructed views of the lake and downtown! Also, there is real demand for more retail along with public spaces/green space in Hingetown. I love big buildings and development but part of the charm of this area is historic housing, art, small shops, good food and the feeling of a bustling neighborhood with quick access to downtown life just over the bridge or down 25th. What they’re proposing on that Vibrator site honestly sounds perfect.
March 11, 20223 yr ^ well said --- height aside, at least quality concerns seem to be off the usual table of worries. all these developers are as invested in the city as you could ever want. in fact i would think it will turn out very nice.
March 11, 20223 yr I agree Hingetown is very underserved in a lot of retail categories. Probably because the area is close to a lot of good services like further down w25th or downtown but I would love to see Hingetown become another destination area. Or at least have some services for locals. I selfishly would love having a Heinen's or something similar here after being walking distance to the downtown one for so long.
March 20, 20223 yr Cool news. Saucy is cancelling their plans for a productions facility/HQ in Independence. Instead they will be selling that property and expanding in Ohio City in the Title Boxing space next door. The article doesn't mention, but anyone know if Title is moving to another spot somewhere? https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/saucy-brew-works-pulls-out-independence-expansion-project
March 21, 20223 yr Cool news. Saucy is cancelling their plans for a productions facility/HQ in Independence. Instead they will be selling that property and expanding in Ohio City in the Title Boxing space next door. The article doesn't mention, but anyone know if Title is moving to another spot somewhere? https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/saucy-brew-works-pulls-out-independence-expansion-project Last they mentioned they were moving down the road to a spot on w26th I believe. Odd saucy says they’re taking over the old spot since harness cycle recent moved in Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
March 21, 20223 yr 18 hours ago, PoshSteve said: Cool news. Saucy is cancelling their plans for a productions facility/HQ in Independence. Instead they will be selling that property and expanding in Ohio City in the Title Boxing space next door. The article doesn't mention, but anyone know if Title is moving to another spot somewhere? https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/saucy-brew-works-pulls-out-independence-expansion-project I'm slightly disappointed by this solely for the reason that I think the Title space has some really unique retail opportunities. But with the spots at Church and State sitting idle, hard to blame Saucy here.
March 21, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, YABO713 said: I'm slightly disappointed by this solely for the reason that I think the Title space has some really unique retail opportunities. But with the spots at Church and State sitting idle, hard to blame Saucy here. Didn't @KJP report in a recent blog discussing the Brideworks project that almost all of the ground floor retail space at Church and State is leased?
March 21, 20223 yr 20 minutes ago, Htsguy said: Didn't @KJP report in a recent blog discussing the Brideworks project that almost all of the ground floor retail space at Church and State is leased? I never doubt @KJP's reporting. But I've been running by the same empty storefronts between the two buildings for the better part of two years now. If they're leased, they're certainly taking their time lol
March 21, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, YABO713 said: I never doubt @KJP's reporting. But I've been running by the same empty storefronts between the two buildings for the better part of two years now. If they're leased, they're certainly taking their time lol They certainly are taking a long time. IIRC, those reports I published were based on permit applications submitted by the individual shop proprietors. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 21, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, YABO713 said: I never doubt @KJP's reporting. But I've been running by the same empty storefronts between the two buildings for the better part of two years now. If they're leased, they're certainly taking their time lol Here's the current plan from their leasing brochure, last updated 2/15/22:
March 21, 20223 yr Hmm, wonder if Nature's Oasis is establishing another location or simply moving from Lakewood. https://www.naturesoasisstores.com/ edit - the fact they have an additional location in Shaker Hts. maybe points to keeping their original Lakewood spot. Edited March 21, 20223 yr by surfohio
March 21, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, surfohio said: Hmm, wonder if Nature's Oasis is establishing another location or simply moving from Lakewood. https://www.naturesoasisstores.com/ edit - the fact they have an additional location in Shaker Hts. maybe points to keeping their original Lakewood spot. They definitely are expanding. Everytime I go to the Lakewood one they complain how insanely busy they are.
March 24, 20223 yr Guys. Pins is open! It’s so cool! I’m out of space to post any more pics or I would. Not sure how to go about freeing up space. Edited March 24, 20223 yr by marty15
March 25, 20223 yr 15 hours ago, marty15 said: Guys. Pins is open! It’s so cool! I was at Tabletop last night and saw that Pins was open and it felt so inviting from the street. When I left close to 11 PM, there was still plenty of activity
March 29, 20223 yr That West Side Market parking lot is a life-sucking void that's gotta go. If I were mayor for a day, I'd float bond issues for two new parking garages at Ohio City -- one on the Market's parking lot and another for Lutheran Hospital. There would have to be an agreement with the hospital selling that lot to the city, paid for by the city selling off the balance of the Lutheran and Market parking lots. And I'd design the parking garages so they could be developed on top of them and sell/lease the air rights. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 29, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, originaljbw said: St. Iggy's parking lot at Lorain and 29th can go as well. You take that back! That's my secret free parking gem. It's open to anyone after school hours. But seriously, as an alumni build a school facility and a parking garage there and get it over with. Still should keep it free after hours.
March 29, 20223 yr 19 minutes ago, KFM44107 said: You take that back! That's my secret free parking gem. It's open to anyone after school hours. But seriously, as an alumni build a school facility and a parking garage there and get it over with. Still should keep it free after hours. There's still very much something in the works for that lot, which would include a parking garage. I can't say too much, but the school (and GLBC) are still very much interested in shutting down 29th between Carroll Ct. and Lorain, adjusting Wasmer Field eastward, and building a home stadium on campus. We've come close twice, both times different, unique issues stopped it from becoming a reality.
March 30, 20223 yr ^And to add to the post above, the school would much prefer that it would not remain a lot, but rather a garage with a facade
March 30, 20223 yr 13 hours ago, YABO713 said: I can't say too much, but the school (and GLBC) are still very much interested in shutting down 29th between Carroll Ct. and Lorain, adjusting Wasmer Field eastward, and building a home stadium on campus. On Google maps W. 29th between Carroll Ct. and Lorain looks like it's already shut down -- it would run right through the campus. Do you mean W. 28th? Edited March 30, 20223 yr by Foraker typo
March 30, 20223 yr 36 minutes ago, Foraker said: On Google maps W. 29th between Carroll Ct. and Lorain looks like it's already shut down -- it would run right through the campus. Do you mean W. 28th? Sorry! Yes, 28th! My mistake.
March 30, 20223 yr I apologize for how crude this is - but I'm nowhere near as talented as the rest of you with design lol. In short, the black dimensions were the suggested new location of the field, and the yellow outlines represents bleacher space, with retractable risers for track events. FWIW - this wasn't conjecture. This was very much in the works not long ago. I suspect it will be revived before long. The design contemplated 7,500 - 10,000 seating capacity.
March 30, 20223 yr I apologize for how crude this is - but I'm nowhere near as talented as the rest of you with design lol. In short, the black dimensions were the suggested new location of the field, and the yellow outlines represents bleacher space, with retractable risers for track events. FWIW - this wasn't conjecture. This was very much in the works not long ago. I suspect it will be revived before long. The design contemplated 7,500 - 10,000 seating capacity. http://cdn.urbanohio.com/monthly_2022_03/image.png.86830447038dfb7bf573fe528f93f905.pngIf true this looks like a great opportunity to finally cut market ave ave off permanently for ped use only Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
March 30, 20223 yr Given the abysmal land use policy St. Ignatius has employed, I certainly hope the city would think twice about letting them gobble up more of the neighborhood.
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