Go to the Cleveland Planning Commission GIS and zoom in several times to see details of the jurisdictional borders between the CDCs:

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/gis/cpc.html

^That is the answer and with that shall we get back on topic?

Anyone notice that around 5 of the new "historic" looking light poles that were installed onto the Lorain-Carnegie bridge are already broken?  Just the pole remains, with wires hanging down and no light.  So frustrating that things don't last.  Wonder what happened?

Anyone notice that around 5 of the new "historic" looking light poles that were installed onto the Lorain-Carnegie bridge are already broken?  Just the pole remains, with wires hanging down and no light.  So frustrating that things don't last.  Wonder what happened?

 

Sounds like their maintenance has been turned over to RTA.

Tiny house project a failure:

 

http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2017/03/17/that-tiny-house-experiment-in-detroit-shoreway-pretty-much-failed

 

There are too many attractive alternatives in Cleveland in that price range. Some tiny houses have been built and sold in my area because they were relatively a much better bargain over conventional choices than these examples; fwiw, energy efficiency didn't have much to do with their appeal, at least according to r.e. sales people.

 

Edit: I see Detroit-Shoreway in the article title, but this topic was, I think, where tiny houses were last mentioned.

I had a feeling that this housing model wouldn't work in this market.  The Cleveland market is very affordable and there are too many other houses in the same price range.

Anyone notice that around 5 of the new "historic" looking light poles that were installed onto the Lorain-Carnegie bridge are already broken?  Just the pole remains, with wires hanging down and no light.  So frustrating that things don't last.  Wonder what happened?

 

I think those days with very high winds knocked a couple off. Hoping they're fixed soon

 

Sounds like their maintenance has been turned over to RTA.

Those couple days with really high winds knocked a couple off. Hopefully they're fixed soon

Climbed up to the top of my building today. Perfect view of the Snavely project at W25th and Detroit. It appears the first floor is pored (underground parking) and columns are going up. Also they have been working on the interiors of the historic buildings across the street from the new build too for a few weeks now.

 

Climbed up to the top of my building today. Perfect view of the Snavely project at W25th and Detroit. It appears the first floor is pored (underground parking) and columns are going up. Also they have been working on the interiors of the historic buildings across the street from the new build too for a few weeks now.

 

 

I drove past yesterday for the first time in probably 3-4 weeks. I cannot believe how fast they are moving! Also, as the build out the foundation I begin to grasp how large of a development this actually is. My initial - totally unfounded - thoughts were that it would only take up a parcel or two on the corner.

 

I would love to see what this does to the property values at Stonebridge, especially considering the project will include a small marketplace.

^ I'm most excited for the market. What I miss most about living in the Warehouse District is being right next to Constantinos. This will fill that void. They look to be in a good position there too, between Stonebridge, Lakeview, their own project, and all of the projects just opening and proposed in Hingetown, they'll have alot of condo/apartment residents in very easy walking distance.

Climbed up to the top of my building today. Perfect view of the Snavely project at W25th and Detroit. It appears the first floor is pored (underground parking) and columns are going up. Also they have been working on the interiors of the historic buildings across the street from the new build too for a few weeks now.

 

Please continue to live there for a few more years, until the Snavely and Project 29 developments are done! That view is going to look very different. Would be nice to have a then/now comparison. :)

Have they announced the operator of the market at the Snavely project yet? Haven't heard.

I don't know if it's announced but I am aware of who it is.

That's coming along quickly!

PoshSteve, you obviously live in Stonebridge....so what is happening with the new exterior cladding there? Thanks.

PoshSteve, you obviously live in Stonebridge....so what is happening with the new exterior cladding there? Thanks.

 

My fiance lives there as well. Last i heard, the building was getting a new name and a new exterior beginning early this summer.

Awesome view of the site!  There must be a tower crane that's going to pop out of there somewhere.  Doesn't like there's room for a walking crane anywhere. 

Awesome view of the site!  There must be a tower crane that's going to pop out of there somewhere.  Doesn't like there's room for a walking crane anywhere. 

 

No tower crane needed. The Snavely project is only going to be five stories tall.

PoshSteve, you obviously live in Stonebridge....so what is happening with the new exterior cladding there? Thanks.

 

My fiance lives there as well. Last i heard, the building was getting a new name and a new exterior beginning early this summer.

 

I heard the same. It was supposed to start last spring, but they had trouble finding a company who was able to take on a project of that scale at that time.

There were a few posts here regarding several "broken" street lights on the Hope Memorial Bridge.  I saw the other day all the globes (or whatever they're called) on the "historic" fixtures have been removed, with the wires exposed.  Wonder what they'll be replaced with.

Since a few of the lamps blew off in the ridiculous wind storm a couple weeks ago the city decided to remove them and reinstall them in a bolted manner as opposed to the way they were originally fastened. Hopefully this is done quickly, but I think the city deserves some credit for responding and acting on this immediately.

Awesome view of the site!  There must be a tower crane that's going to pop out of there somewhere.  Doesn't like there's room for a walking crane anywhere. 

 

No tower crane needed. The Snavely project is only going to be five stories tall.

Right, but regardless of the height, I don't think there's anywhere to put a walking crane where it could still boom out all the way across the site.  That it a tight site.  Unless they closed a lane on Detroit to stage a crane.

Awesome view of the site!  There must be a tower crane that's going to pop out of there somewhere.  Doesn't like there's room for a walking crane anywhere. 

 

No tower crane needed. The Snavely project is only going to be five stories tall.

Right, but regardless of the height, I don't think there's anywhere to put a walking crane where it could still boom out all the way across the site.  That it a tight site.  Unless they closed a lane on Detroit to stage a crane.

 

Ageee. Tower cranes aren't used just for height, but also site constraints. Take Columbus's short north. Some of the new infill doesn't require a tower crane based on height, but rather site constraints.

^^ There is a lane on Detroit closed "permanently" for this project. They also regularly close one of the lanes on W25th. By my untrained eye, they should have enough room in their area of Detroit for a crane.

^^ There is a lane on Detroit closed "permanently" for this project. They also regularly close one of the lanes on W25th. By my untrained eye, they should have enough room in their area of Detroit for a crane.

 

Are their any plans to make that intersection more pedestrian friendly?  It can be a brutal stretch to cross...

I have this grand vision of 29th Street being closed and entirely pedestrian from Detroit to Church Ave. With the addition of the brewery this summer as well as the existing shops and JukeBox, I think this would be a GREAT entertainment area for locals. Additionally, closing such a small stretch would not seriously affect any traffic patterns.

Snapped some pics of inside the fences at the Snavely project. Views are from Detroit and 25th

 

 

Saturation isn't a worry for Ohio City restaurateurs

April 09, 2017

By SUSAN CONDON LOVE

 

Ohio City, to paraphrase a quote about Silicon Valley, "is a mindset, not a location."

 

This spring, those words resonate with particular meaning. Within a few months, at least seven restaurants are opening, and several already established dining spots are planning changes to their menus.

 

...With this flurry of activity, continuing a decade of growth in the historic Cleveland neighborhood, the question arises: Is too much happening in an already area home to some 250 business and 9,000 residents?

 

Vibrancy to a saturation point, it seems, is a complicated question.

 

...There's another factor in restaurateurs' faith that healthy growth can be sustained. In 2013, Ohio City Inc. conducted a housing study that showed "immediate demand" for more than 1,800 units of new housing.

 

"Since we conducted the housing study, there have been more than 200 units of for-sale and rental housing completed, and over 1,000 more units under construction or development, resulting in an investment of nearly $300 million," Shaw said.

 

MORE:

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20170409/NEWS/170409838/saturation-isnt-a-worry-for-ohio-city-restaurateurs

^Time for a mixed-use multi-story TOD development at 25th/Lorain! 

For what it's worth on the saturation front, I wanted to go to Bakersfield on Saturday night.  We put our name into the app at 6:30 and they forecasted a table open at 9:30.  We walked there to have a drink and had to sit on the patio outside because the building was at fire code capacity.  We gave up and walked to Bar Cento at 9pm, the tables were all full and we only managed to get a first-come, first-serve bar table after waiting for 15 minutes.

 

I think this summer will see even more popularity for the neighborhood.

For what it's worth on the saturation front, I wanted to go to Bakersfield on Saturday night.  We put our name into the app at 6:30 and they forecasted a table open at 9:30.  We walked there to have a drink and had to sit on the patio outside because the building was at fire code capacity.  We gave up and walked to Bar Cento at 9pm, the tables were all full and we only managed to get a first-come, first-serve bar table after waiting for 15 minutes.

 

I think this summer will see even more popularity for the neighborhood.

 

I dont know anything about Bakersfield, never been...but i did walk by on saturday AM going to my car from the market.  They definitely didnt cut corners with the decor...seems like a place that will be a big hit.

It's so good. OTR born, expanded to Columbus and Indianapolis, and now Cleveland. Well worth it!

For what it's worth on the saturation front, I wanted to go to Bakersfield on Saturday night.  We put our name into the app at 6:30 and they forecasted a table open at 9:30.  We walked there to have a drink and had to sit on the patio outside because the building was at fire code capacity.  We gave up and walked to Bar Cento at 9pm, the tables were all full and we only managed to get a first-come, first-serve bar table after waiting for 15 minutes.

 

I think this summer will see even more popularity for the neighborhood.

 

Bakersfield on Saturday night eluded me like Dorsia to Patrick Bateman

I've noticed some work going on at the old Anthony's Hardware on Bridge and 47th. Now there is a building permit in the window.  Anyone know what the plan is?

I saw that too. I hope it will remain retail. That area could use a small little commercial building. One of my biggest pet peeves is when they convert storefronts to residential.

Transferred in November to BEAVOGUI REALTY LTD. Looks like they own a nice house in Battery Park and this place in Cuyahoga County.

 

No building permits in the Cleveland online system associated with that parcel yet.

 

Last I heard there was to be an African goods (import?) store going in there. Sudanese, maybe? My memory is crap.

^an african store would be very cool. Why do think it would be Sudanese--are there a lot of people from Sudan in Ohio City?

^an african store would be very cool. Why do think it would be Sudanese--are there a lot of people from Sudan in Ohio City?

 

Most of the recent immigrants on Cleveland's West side are from East Africa: Somalia, Sudanese, and Ethiopian all have notable populations.

Huge Congolese Church on the corner of 45th and bridge right there. Lots of African immigrants mostly are from DRC (Congo) and are housed on near west side.

 

Source: I work for migration services and live on w 47

While Somali and Sudanese immigrants are more noticeable because of the way they dress, Congolese immigrants  outnumber them immensely. You just don't notice them because they look like native African American

Update on the Snavely Project (I really wish this had a name already). View is from where Superior Viaduct/Vermont meets W25th

 

Interesting small project:

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2017/crr04-24-2017.pdf

Board of Zoning Appeals

APRIL 24, 2017

 

9:30

Calendar No. 17-37: 2201 West 33 Street Ward 3

Kerry McCormack

15 Notices

Cleveland Bricks, owner, proposes to convert a store to a four unit apartment building in a B1 TwoFamily

Residential District. The owner appeals for relief from the strict application of the following

sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances:

1. Section 337.03(a) which states that buildings with more than two dwelling units are not

permitted in a Two-Family Residential District.

2. Section 359.01 which states that Board of Zoning Appeals review and approval is required for a

substitution of a non-conforming use or building. Besides use, non-conformity also exists in

area/density (Per section 355.04, gross floor area is limited to 1,480 square feet, 4,515 square

feet is proposed), required side yards (Per Section 357.09(b)(2)(B) an interior side yard of ¼ the

height of the building is required and approximately 3 feet provided), and location and number of

parking spaces (Per 349.05 parking cannot be within 10 feet of wall of residential structure, and

Per 349.04 spaces provided due to improper location of 2 existing/proposed parking spaces).

(Filed February 8, 2017-No Testimony) FIRST POSTPONEMENT MADE AT THE REQUEST OF THE

APPELLANT.

 

Interesting small project:

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2017/crr04-24-2017.pdf

Board of Zoning Appeals

APRIL 24, 2017

 

9:30

Calendar No. 17-37: 2201 West 33 Street Ward 3

Kerry McCormack

15 Notices

Cleveland Bricks, owner, proposes to convert a store to a four unit apartment building in a B1 TwoFamily

Residential District. The owner appeals for relief from the strict application of the following

sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances:

1. Section 337.03(a) which states that buildings with more than two dwelling units are not

permitted in a Two-Family Residential District.

2. Section 359.01 which states that Board of Zoning Appeals review and approval is required for a

substitution of a non-conforming use or building. Besides use, non-conformity also exists in

area/density (Per section 355.04, gross floor area is limited to 1,480 square feet, 4,515 square

feet is proposed), required side yards (Per Section 357.09(b)(2)(B) an interior side yard of ¼ the

height of the building is required and approximately 3 feet provided), and location and number of

parking spaces (Per 349.05 parking cannot be within 10 feet of wall of residential structure, and

Per 349.04 spaces provided due to improper location of 2 existing/proposed parking spaces).

(Filed February 8, 2017-No Testimony) FIRST POSTPONEMENT MADE AT THE REQUEST OF THE

APPELLANT.

 

 

This is both good and bad.  Good because it demonstrates the demand for rental housing in OC and here the neighborhood is getting a viable 4-unit apt from a rundown looking commercial building. 

 

Bad because this demonstrates the need for substantial multi-unit housing isn't being met, leading to numerous conversions of commercial properties and single family homes into small multi-unit dwellings.  While the several multi-unit dwellings have been, and are being built in OC's northern flank along Detroit, the Market Sq. area to the south, as well as the area south of there, hasn't seen any new apt construction at all in recent years.  The loft conversions at WSCH and the Jay Hotel have been the largest area apartment developments in the last few years, and yet these are relatively small projects.  As for possible new construction, the Market Square Plaza mixed-use TOD proposal a few years ago was hopeful, but has gone dark apparently for financing difficulties, among other reasons.  The planned infill in Duck Island to the west of the Red Line station can fulfill some of the need, but Market Square clearly needs substantial apartment growth to meet demand.  It's Cleveland's most popular entertainment district outside of downtown.

I also like having neighborhood-scale markets in the middle of a neighborhood that people can easily walk to. So I'd hate to see this market go. But it probably wasn't exactly selling fresh foods and groceries, and was more about selling snacks, beer, wine and lottery tickets.

^Yeah, I hate losing stores like these too.  I don't know this particular area that well, but in many older neighborhoods these numerous little corner stores are part of Cleveland's charm.

^On the other hand, if these grungy lotto/cigarette markets are slowly being replaced by the newer small groceries on Lorain that actually sell high quality food, I don't consider it much of a loss. I mostly see a poorly maintained building in a fringe part of Ohio City drawing substantial investment, which is pretty awesome.

^I think there's a place for these 'grungy' cig/lotto/beer, etc. places right in the neighborhood.  When stores are selling 'high quality' food and are located along the main drag in the trendy strip, it's usually for the foo-foo crowd and usually smacks of gentrification.  I think some gentrification of OC can be good, but I'm not in favor of totally driving out all blue-collar working people.  And as we see with places like Family Dollar in Market Square, young professionals along with lower-income folks frequent the small brown-bag joints as well.  Many of them think these places are 'cool.'

^I think there's a place for these 'grungy' cig/lotto/beer, etc. places right in the neighborhood.  When stores are selling 'high quality' food and are located along the main drag in the trendy strip, it's usually for the foo-foo crowd and usually smacks of gentrification.  I think some gentrification of OC can be good, but I'm not in favor of totally driving out all blue-collar working people.  And as we see with places like Family Dollar in Market Square, young professionals along with lower-income folks frequent the small brown-bag joints as well.  Many of them think these places are 'cool.'

 

I used to buy beer at Fulton Beverage in high school. God bless "grunge" places