October 28, 20195 yr 24 minutes ago, mrclifton88 said: I was never a fan of the design of this low-rise hodge-podge neighborhood- though obviously glad for the increased population and the removal of parking lots. Recently though, I discovered that when you drive East 13th Street going north, and you see the Masthead building on the left and then see the new urban fabric rising eastward: its really jarring! It's amazing what three or four stories can do. Before it felt like downtown just dropped off at 13th- now there is a completely different feeling. I think that if Superior got a serious road diet the scale would look even better.
October 29, 20195 yr 8 hours ago, roman totale XVII said: ^ I was the same. My initial reaction to these developments was ‘Meh. Why can’t they build something taller?’, but as you say, their impact is completely changing that part of town. I'll never understand fascination with Height versus occupancy and vibrancy.
October 29, 20195 yr On 10/28/2019 at 1:05 PM, freefourur said: I think that if Superior got a serious road diet the scale would look even better. Remember that the first leg of the Bike Midway would extend 2.5 miles along the middle of Superior Avenue from Public Square to East 55th Street. It’s also is set for construction starting next year and is a collaboration between Cleveland and the NOACA, according to our report from 2017. From Cleveland.com: https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2019/04/cuyahoga-greenways-imagines-network-of-bike-paths-trails-bike-friendly-streets-across-the-county.html Edited November 4, 20195 yr by Larry1962 Update construction timeline
November 3, 20195 yr Pricing and floor plans are up on the website. Some of units are set up very nicely. Also, pricing is great for what you get. 1500 sq ft units for 370-400k is very reasonably priced, especially for a brand new build.
November 13, 20195 yr I cant tell from the angle of the pic but are the new builds taller than previous built townhomes?
November 13, 20195 yr 25 minutes ago, ShakerLondonATL said: I cant tell from the angle of the pic but are the new builds taller than previous built townhomes? Yes, I think slightly taller.
December 28, 20195 yr Merry Christmas UO fam. Just strolled by this. We’ve got another project going live. This is the Geis project next to the tower.
December 28, 20195 yr 3 minutes ago, marty15 said: Merry Christmas UO fam. Just strolled by this. We’ve got another project going live. This is the Geis project next to the tower. 12th and ave condos? Edited December 28, 20195 yr by cle_guy90
December 30, 20195 yr Also looks like something is being done to the street-level facade facing St. Clair. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 30, 20195 yr 1 hour ago, KJP said: Also looks like something is being done to the street-level facade facing St. Clair. Amenity level being added in the storefront.
December 30, 20195 yr 1 hour ago, Terdolph said: This is a really handsome building. I hope that the rest of the block is completed soon, as well as the parking lot across the street. That parking lot across the street will be the main missing tooth from Euclid to Lakeside, once this is finished. Hopefully that makes it more attractive to developers.
December 30, 20195 yr I should probably know this jsut from looking at the picture, but is this development going along St. Clair or E 12th?
December 30, 20195 yr 21 minutes ago, Jenny said: I should probably know this jsut from looking at the picture, but is this development going along St. Clair or E 12th? East 12th, There are renderings up thread.
December 31, 20195 yr Looking forward to seeing E.12 side being built. Hoping it sells fast so then st. clair side can be built plus the Geis Sphaghetti House site for sale condo's get off the ground.
January 17, 20205 yr A bit later than I expected but construction permits were filed today for the 12th and Ave Condos!
January 17, 20205 yr I'm anxious to see how fast these things move once the condos are publicly listed and marketed. So is Geis, I hear. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 31, 20205 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 31, 20205 yr 15 minutes ago, MyPhoneDead said: Fall 2020? That's pretty quick lol. Is that a typo? No. That's what Geis is hoping for. But developers are ever-optimistic about their projects! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 31, 20205 yr Seeing how quickly the one in Rocky River is going up (although different developer), I believe it. Similar product I believe.
January 31, 20205 yr 26 minutes ago, MyPhoneDead said: Fall 2020? That's pretty quick lol. Is that a typo? The foundation and utilities were already in place from back when the original tower and garage were built.
January 31, 20205 yr Not sure how long they have been playing, but I noticed a tv commercial for 12th and Ave today.
February 5, 20205 yr On 1/29/2020 at 3:36 AM, MyPhoneDead said: Street view photo of the townhome development. Walking by this today, every one of those western facing doors had a blue "Sold" sticker on it.
February 5, 20205 yr I’ve said it before but it’s amazing what a difference even a three story building makes in this location. Hopefully it spurs more density (and a little more height where appropriate) along with a diet on Superior with the bikeway. Edited February 5, 20205 yr by mrclifton88
February 5, 20205 yr 25 minutes ago, mrclifton88 said: I’ve said it before but it’s amazing what a difference even a three story building makes in this location. Hopefully it spurs more density (and a little more height where appropriate) along with a diet on Superior with the bikeway. I visited Houston for the first time last April to see my brother and his wife. They live in the Midtown area of Houston right outside of Downtown. It was such a cool neighborhood, and I couldn't help but hope this is what Midtown Cleveland could become.
February 23, 20205 yr Sorry, I have to rewrite the article. Edited February 23, 20205 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 23, 20205 yr @KJP I have always been a bit in the dark regarding this five year term for Geis to develop the Spag House lot due to the demolition. What is the penalty if they do not?
February 23, 20205 yr I don't know. EDIT: Geis has already submitted to the city plans and renderings for the East 9th/Bolivar site. So perhaps that might suffice. Edited February 23, 20205 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 23, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, KJP said: I don't know. EDIT: Geis has already submitted to the city plans and renderings for the East 9th/Bolivar site. So perhaps that might suffice. Does anyone have copies of the initial 9th & Bolivar renderings to post? Edited February 23, 20205 yr by Frmr CLEder
February 23, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, KJP said: I don't know. EDIT: Geis has already submitted to the city plans and renderings for the East 9th/Bolivar site. So perhaps that might suffice. was this recently? Or back when you first started reporting on this project
February 24, 20205 yr Recently "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 25, 20205 yr Cross-posted in the Cleveland Random Developments thread.... SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 2020 Building for-sale housing in downtown Cleveland is a test Developers are facing tests and building tests as they try to address the long-standing lack of for-sale housing in downtown Cleveland. To address that shortcoming in this local and national market, developers and investors have endured a test of wills and finances. So, in turn, it has required them to create their own kind of test -- like a toe in the water. Those tests have begun and could soon reap some intriguing results, including more for-sale housing projects. The lack of for-sale options in multi-family developments built since the Great Recession is a national situation. The reason why downtown Cleveland has such a small for-sale housing inventory is because downtown Cleveland had a small overall housing inventory to begin with, and it's still playing catch-up to national averages among big cities, studies and industry experts say. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/02/building-for-sale-housing-in-downtown.html Edited February 25, 20205 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 25, 20205 yr ^ Best line from the article: Zimmerman, through an affiliate company Jobu Needs A Refill LLC......
February 25, 20205 yr I’m not sure what it is but I really like the look of those new units in the rendering on Superior vs. the rest of the Avenue District designs. They seem more substantial.
February 26, 20205 yr On 2/25/2020 at 12:09 PM, surfohio said: ^ Best line from the article: Zimmerman, through an affiliate company Jobu Needs A Refill LLC...... YAAARRRR!
March 19, 20205 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 19, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, sky said: How is Knez doing with sales? Nine of the 12 units in the first phase have sold. But it's been shown that way for a while. So either Knez hasn't updated its Avenue page (https://knez.net/the-avenue/) or sales have stalled. I don't see any listings for the second phase yet. I'm even more curious about how Geis is doing with sales, although both developers said their next projects may depend on these existing projects. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 19, 20205 yr 44 minutes ago, KJP said: Nine of the 12 units in the first phase have sold. But it's been shown that way for a while. So either Knez hasn't updated its Avenue page (https://knez.net/the-avenue/) or sales have stalled. I don't see any listings for the second phase yet. I'm even more curious about how Geis is doing with sales, although both developers said their next projects may depend on these existing projects. The economy has just had a huge shock, even if (and I think it will ) get better, it may take some time to get back on track.
March 19, 20205 yr 8 minutes ago, Growth Mindset said: The economy has just had a huge shock, even if (and I think it will ) get better, it may take some time to get back on track. My residential realtor friends say they are very busy. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 19, 20205 yr 5 hours ago, KJP said: My residential realtor friends say they are very busy. Really think it depends how long this lasts. Lot of ppl laid off right now, but if things reopen in a month, we probably rebound quickly.
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