Imagine if we linked all three of them plus Dayton and maybe Akron with a high-speed rail line to unite their combined 8 million population into a more cohesive, productive economic machine.

 

That would be nice.  But we did give the funding to California and lowered taxes for job creators...so there's that.... ::)

 

 

The $400 million went to a few states, including to Michigan to help it upgrade its Chicago-Detroit rail service to 110 mph.

^ Besides Michigan where else did Ohio's 3C funding go?

 

Ohio and Wisconsin gave back their federal money, totaling $1.2 billion. That money went to California, Florida and Washington. But when Florida gave back $2.4 billion to the federal government for Tampa-Orlando (which is now being revived by Brightline, a backer of the governor who gave back the Obama money!), that money went to California, Michigan, Northeast Corridor, North Carolina, and possibly elsewhere.

^^ Funny how it's a bunch of back and forth for biggest economy in the state. Each of the 3C's has held this title with in the past year, IIRC.

I don't think that's true.  Providing that we're talking about GDP, the past year Cincinnati maintained Ohio's biggest economy.

^Actually, Cleveland has always been the largest. Summit and Portage counties are an integral part of Cleveland, but they are not included in OMB's definition of Cleveland, so the numbers reported for Cleveland are not accurate.

^^ Funny how it's a bunch of back and forth for biggest economy in the state. Each of the 3C's has held this title with in the past year, IIRC.

I don't think that's true.  Providing that we're talking about GDP, the past year Cincinnati maintained Ohio's biggest economy.

 

Maybe it's over the past 3 years or something. I definitely remember reading semi-recently that Cincy had become the top economy. This article says Columbus was the biggest prior to Cleveland taking over:

Among the fastest-growing major metro region's in the Midwest, Cincinnati's 2.4 percent growth eclipsed Columbus' economy (previously Ohio's largest economy)  in size and growth rate.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/money/2018/09/18/cincinnatis-economy-hits-138-b-beats-us-growth/1346290002/

 

Regardless, they're all really close in size and the ups and downs lead to a lot of jockeying. It's pretty amazing how close they are.

Join the conversation: Your Voice Ohio launches statewide talks about vibrant communities

https://www.ohio.com/news/20180921/join-conversation-your-voice-ohio-launches-statewide-talks-about-vibrant-communities

Not quite sure where to put this story, but it's a good one about younger people moving back to Ohio and surrounding states for better quality of life:

 

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/23/why-millennials-are-flocking-to-rust-belt-real-estate.html

More than one Ohio city can chuckle a little over this one:  the Charlotte Observer is complaining about Charlotte's loss of four corporate headquarters (two of which came from Ohio) in the last couple of years.

 

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/article218956340.html

 

 

Share with any small-town construction worker, electrician, plumber or other tradesperson you might know. You are needed to help build/rebuild Cleveland. Don't let the robots take your job!

 

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/national/construction-companies-turn-to-robots-as-they-face-worker-shortage

List of applicants for Round 21 of Ohio Historic Tax Credits 

 

Project Name                                  City    Application Number      Credit Request    

First National Bank Building    Cincinnati    FY19001    $5,000,000
OTR Mixed income project    Cincinnati    FY19014    $5,000,000
Union Central Life Insurance Building    Cincinnati    FY19033    $5,000,000
L. Hoster Brewing Co.    Columbus    FY19009    $5,000,000
Fort Industry Square Phase I    Toledo    FY19034    $4,492,220
Ohio Bell Building (AT&T)    Cleveland    FY19018    $4,214,509
Fidelity Medical Building    Dayton    FY19021    $4,133,458
Fort Industry Square Phase II    Toledo    FY19035    $3,764,065
Provident Bank     Cincinnati    FY19004    $3,750,000
Shillito Building (west)    Cincinnati    FY19005    $2,770,000
Hayden Building    Columbus    FY19020    $1,940,000
College Hill Revitalization    Cincinnati    FY19008    $1,779,995
Fidelity Building    Cleveland    FY19019    $1,675,000
Astrup Company Building    Cleveland    FY19003    $1,615,000
Cleveland Masonic Temple    Cleveland    FY19006    $1,400,000
Cooke Building    Sandusky    FY19040    $1,375,000
Rhodes Mansion    Cleveland    FY19017    $1,373,109
Packard Apartments    Warren    FY19015    $675,000
Stedman-Shafer Wholesale Grocery Building    Athens    FY19002    $639,520
Medina Farmers Exchange    Medina    FY19007    $545,000
Everett Building    Akron    FY19023    $470,500
East Carbarn - Columbus Electric Trolley Barns    Columbus    FY19010    $250,000
1505 and 1511 Vine St    Cincinnati    FY19011    $250,000
1513 Vine St    Cincinnati    FY19012    $250,000
1517 Vine St    Cincinnati    FY19013    $250,000
1833 Sycamore    Cincinnati    FY19022    $250,000
Columbus Electrical Works    Columbus    FY19024    $250,000
1714 Vine    Cincinnati    FY19036    $250,000
Andrus Building    Toledo    FY19039    $250,000
Hannon's Block    Toledo    FY19016    $241,186
222-226 Mohawk    Cincinnati    FY19032    $227,000
Belden Seymour    Cleveland    FY19025    $222,000
1223 E. Main St    Columbus    FY19028    $191,000
1704 Elm    Cincinnati    FY19031    $184,681
1662 Blue Rock    Cincinnati    FY19030    $159,000
Levinson Building    Cuyahoga Falls    FY19037    $156,727
Hughes Building    St. Clairsville    FY19038    $149,496
1233 E. Main St    Columbus    FY19027    $110,000
1278 E. Main St    Columbus    FY19026    $60,000
 

Here are the totals requested by city. Cincinnati is swinging for the fences.

 

Akron    1    $470,500
Athens    1    $639,520
Cincinnati    14    $20,120,676
Cleveland    6    $6,285,109
Columbus    7    $7,801,000
Cuyahoga Falls    1    $156,727
Dayton    1    $4,133,458
Medina    1    $545,000
Sandusky    1    $1,375,000
St. Clairsville    1    $149,496
Toledo    4    $4,255,251
Warren    1    $675,000
 

Edited October 12, 20186 yr by Mendo

I think about 6-7 years ago these credits went mostly to Cleveland projects but now it seems that Cincinnati has figured out the formula.  

23 minutes ago, freefourur said:

I think about 6-7 years ago these credits went mostly to Cleveland projects but now it seems that Cincinnati has figured out the formula.  

Possibly, and Cleveland is running out of huge historic buildings that would qualify as a lot of already or are currently under renovation with these same credits.

Historic tax credits are by far the best way to support economic development in this state. Historic renovation is likely to involve small and local contractors. The buildings are likely to be supported by existing infrastructure instead of requiring new roads and sewers and parking lots, so it’s very efficient for government budgets. Historic buildings are more likely to host locally owned small businesses once renovated as well. This program should have been quadrupled in size, yesterday.

Edited October 12, 20186 yr by thebillshark

14 minutes ago, Mov2Ohio said:

Possibly, and Cleveland is running out of huge historic buildings that would qualify as a lot of already or are currently under renovation with these same credits. 

Buildings don't have to be big to qualify. For example, several buildings on this block of Vine Street in Cincy are on the list of applicants.

Both theories are likely. I hosted a tour of some Cincinnati city council and civic/development/advocacy related people in 2015 and while our tour focused on Transit-Oriented Development, I heard a few remarks of surprise while in downtown Cleveland about how many commercial buildings were under renovation/conversion to apartments. So I started pointing out those that had already been converted (East Ohio/1717 East 9th, Ameritrust Tower, 1010 Euclid, 668 Euclid, etc) and which ones were likely to be converted (Standard, CAC, JHB, 925 Euclid, May Co, etc) and there were a few "wows" in response.

 

There are only a few large, historic commercial buildings that have yet to be renovated/converted in downtown, with 925 Euclid being the notable. There are also quite a few warehouse-type buildings in city neighborhoods to be renovated/converted, but most don't require the same big-ticket tax credits to make them work (except maybe Richman Brothers, Warner-Swasey, Westinghouse, etc). The largest, historic downtown office buildings yet to be converted are still occupied -- Rose Building, Landmark Office Towers, City Club, Superior, etc.

Edited October 12, 20186 yr by KJP

3 hours ago, thebillshark said:

Historic tax credits are by far the best way to support economic development in this state. Historic renovation is likely to involve small and local contractors. The buildings are likely to be supported by existing infrastructure instead of requiring new roads and sewers and parking lots, so it’s very efficient for government budgets. Historic buildings are more likely to host locally owned small businesses once renovated as well. This program should have been quadrupled in size, yesterday.

 

I think they should lift the cap entirely.  Let any project that meets a certain set of qualifications get credits.  This is how the federal credits are done.

 

I'm sure the results are being pasted in the various 3-C threads, but here are the overall results of Round 21 of the Ohio tax credits. 26 out of 39 applicants were awarded tax credits.

 

https://development.ohio.gov/files/media/pressrelease/2018 1212 State Supports 26 Historic Rehabilitation Projects.pdf

 

CENTRAL REGION

 

1223 East Main Street (Columbus, Franklin County)
Total Project Cost: $1,550,000
Total Tax Credit: $191,000

 

Address: 1223 East Main Street, Columbus, 43205

1233 East Main Street (Columbus, Franklin County)
Total Project Cost: $675,000
Total Tax Credit: $110,000
Address: 1233 East Main Street, Columbus, 43205

 

1278 East Main Street (Columbus, Franklin County)
Total Project Cost: $420,500
Total Tax Credit: $60,000
Address: 1278 East Main Street, Columbus, 43205

1223 and 1233 East Main Street.

 

Columbus Electrical Works (Columbus, Franklin County)
Total Project Cost: $5,850,000
Total Tax Credit: $250,000
Address: 761-767 North 4th Street, Columbus, 43215

 

East Carbarn – Columbus Electric Trolley Barns (Columbus, Franklin County)
Total Project Cost: $1,534,000
Total Tax Credit: $250,000
Address: 1600 Oak Street, Columbus, 43205

 

The Hayden (Columbus, Franklin County)
Total Project Cost: $19,419,639
Total Tax Credit: $1,940,000

 

NORTHEAST REGION

 

Astrup Company Building (Cleveland, Cuyahoga County)
Total Project Cost: $16,158,929
Total Tax Credit: $1,615,000
Address: 2937 West 25th Street, Cleveland, 44113

 

Belden Seymour (Cleveland, Cuyahoga County)
Total Project Cost: $2,221,700
Total Tax Credit: $222,000
Address: 3805 Franklin Boulevard, Cleveland, 44113

 

Cleveland Masonic Temple (Cleveland, Cuyahoga County)
Total Project Cost: $14,081,500
Total Tax Credit: $1,400,000
Address: 3615 Euclid Avenue, Cleveland, 44115

 

Everett Building (Akron, Summit County)
Total Project Cost: $4,710,600
Total Tax Credit: $470,500
Address: 39 East Market Street, Akron, 44308

 

Fidelity Building (Cleveland, Cuyahoga County)
Total Project Cost: $17,016,250
Total Tax Credit: $1,675,000
Address: 1900-1940 East 6th Street, Cleveland, 44114

 

Levinson Building (Cuyahoga Falls, Summit County)
Total Project Cost: $1,351,055
Total Tax Credit: $156,727
Address: 2225, 2231 and 2235 Front Street, Cuyahoga Falls, 44221

 

Medina Farmers Exchange (Medina, Medina County)
Total Project Cost: $5,524,085
Total Tax Credit: $545,000
Address: 320 South Court Street, Medina, 44256

 

Ohio Bell Building (Cleveland, Cuyahoga County)
Total Project Cost: $42,365,864
Total Tax Credit: $4,214,509
Address: 750 Huron Road East, Cleveland, 44115

 

Packard Apartments (Warren, Trumbull County)
Total Project Cost: $4,113,900
Total Tax Credit: $675,000
Address: 318 North Park Avenue, Warren, 44481

 

Rhodes Mansion (Cleveland, Cuyahoga County)
Total Project Cost: $13,062,715
Total Tax Credit: $1,373,109
Address: 2905 Franklin Boulevard, Cleveland, 44102

 

NORTHWEST REGION

 

443 10th Street (Toledo, Lucas County)
Total Project Cost: $1,523,757
Total Tax Credit: $250,000
Address: 443 10th Street, Toledo, 43604

 

Hannon’s Block (Toledo, Lucas County)
Total Project Cost: $2,196,440
Total Tax Credit: $241,186
Address: 619 Monroe Street, Toledo, 43604

 

SOUTHEAST REGION

 

Hughes Building (St. Clairsville, Belmont County)
Total Project Cost: $662,300
Total Tax Credit: $149,496
Address: 147 East Main Street, St. Clairsville, 43950

 

SOUTHWEST REGION

 

222-226 Mohawk (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)
Total Project Cost: $1,159,779
Total Tax Credit: $227,000

 

Address: 222-226 Mohawk, Cincinnati, 45214

1513 Vine Street (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)
Total Project Cost: $3,138,993
Total Tax Credit: $250,000

 

Address: 1513 Vine Street, Cincinnati, 45202

1517 Vine Street (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)
Total Project Cost: $2,388,364
Total Tax Credit: $250,000

 

Address: 1517 Vine Street, Cincinnati, 45202

1662 Blue Rock (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)
Total Project Cost: $1,129,900
Total Tax Credit: $159,000

 

Address: 1662 Blue Rock, Cincinnati, 45223

1833 Sycamore Street (Flatiron Building) (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)
Total Project Cost: $1,275,000
Total Tax Credit: $250,000
Address: 1833 Sycamore Street, Cincinnati, 45202

 

First National Bank Building (Cincinnati, Hamilton County)
Total Project Cost: $66,812,140
Total Tax Credit: $5,000,000
Address: 105 East Fourth Street, Cincinnati, 45220

 

WESTERN REGION
Fidelity Medical Building (Dayton, Montgomery County)
Total Project Cost: $20,459,578
Total Tax Credit: $4,133,458
Address: 211 S. Main Street, Dayton, 45402
 

The November job's report is out, here are the numbers for Ohio's big cities.

 

12-month % change

Cleveland +2.9%

https://www.bls.gov/regions/midwest/oh_cleveland_msa.htm

Cincinnati  +1.9%

https://www.bls.gov/regions/midwest/oh_cincinnati_msa.htm

Columbus +1.5%

https://www.bls.gov/regions/midwest/oh_columbus_msa.htm

Akron +1.2%

https://www.bls.gov/regions/midwest/oh_akron_msa.htm

Toledo  +.5%

https://www.bls.gov/regions/midwest/oh_toledo_msa.htm
Dayton  +.2%

https://www.bls.gov/regions/midwest/oh_dayton_msa.htm

 

 

Edited December 22, 20186 yr by Clefan98

More chatter related to jobs numbers : 

 

The Best Markets For Real Estate Investments In 2019

Ingo Winzer

 

You can never know when a real estate bubble will burst – I happen to think it won’t happen in 2019 – but in places like San Francisco, Seattle, Miami and Denver, caution is now the order of the day. If you own property in these spots and plan to sell, don’t wait until the market has peaked. And if you’re looking for a good place to put your money, you should consider instead the 20 markets I’m listing here.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ingowinzer/2019/01/07/2019-best-markets-for-real-estate-investments/#85eb29271f5c

 

That's some pretty compelling data. So Cleveland is the fifth-best market in the country for real estate investment in 2019? And it looks like it's the best market for bargain hunters.

i dk if this was posted, probably was, but anyway per the 2017 tax changes here is a map of the economic opportunity zones. you can zoom in around ohio.

 

what struck me was most are just large swathes of obvious areas we all would agree with, with columbus being an interesting expection. their areas are more like swiss cheese, with what looks like very thoughtfully considered targeted zones, including on the norhside where you wouldnt expect any as it booming on its own. no doubt this will especially accelerate those northern developments.

 

 

https://esrimedia.maps.arcgis.com/apps/View/index.html?appid=77f3cad12b6c4bffb816332544f04542

something interesting about the whole economic opportunity zones thing is its a long developing totally bipartisan plan (gives you hope these days!), which was originally kickstarted via sean parker the napster guy:

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-04/will-opportunity-zones-help-rich-poor-or-both-quicktake

^^In Cleveland, looks like Downtown, Ohio City, and Tremont are listed as Opportunity Zones; but Hough and Fairfax aren't.  How? Those two neighborhoods have some of the highest poverty levels in the state, and has the Clinic within their boarders. If there was "opportunity" to build, those two neighborhoods should be right up there.

1 hour ago, Oldmanladyluck said:

^^In Cleveland, looks like Downtown, Ohio City, and Tremont are listed as Opportunity Zones; but Hough and Fairfax aren't.  How? Those two neighborhoods have some of the highest poverty levels in the state, and has the Clinic within their boarders. If there was "opportunity" to build, those two neighborhoods should be right up there.

 

"

1. What’s an opportunity zone?

It’s a U.S. census tract that meets the law’s criteria for high poverty or low incomes and has been nominated by its state for inclusion. More than 8,700 of all census tracts -- about a 10th -- have won designation as opportunity zones. They’re found in every state, in Washington, D.C. and in U.S. territories like Puerto Rico. Some of the rural zones span giant swaths of land out West, while some urban zones are just a few square blocks.   "

 

"7. Who decided where the zones are?

After the tax law passed, governors were given 90 days to nominate a quarter of the eligible zones in their state. Many tried to strike a balance between areas that were in greatest need and places that would be more likely to attract investments. The results included some surprising picks, including the arts district in Los Angeles. The U.S. Treasury Department then certifiedthe selections."

 

My guess would be there was some typical Cleveland politics involved in the selections (ratified at the state level), though I suppose a conscious decision may have been made to use the process to boost areas that are already moving forward.

Good discussion for the Opportunity Zones thread.  ?

 

 

 

Edited March 1, 20196 yr by KJP

This is a headline that gets your attention!

 

Ohio runner-up for location of $1 billion Apple campus

 

As it turns out, Ohio wasn’t a finalist for just Amazon’s massive second headquarters project last year.  The state came in second to Austin, Texas, for a $1 billion campus for Apple, according to the new annual report from JobsOhio, the state’s economic development group.

 

“JobsOhio and its partners had been working actively with the leaders of Apple on a new job and capital investment commitment in Ohio,” the report said in a section that talked about projects in which Ohio came up short in 2018.  “Ultimately Apple chose Austin, Texas, with Ohio coming in second. This is significant, because historically, Ohio was rarely considered as a location. Going forward, Ohio will continue to compete for notable investments from global brands.”

 

The report didn’t say where Apple was looking in Ohio, and JobsOhio officials wouldn’t elaborate. ... Apple announced in December that it will build a 133-acre campus in Austin along with establishing new sites in Seattle, San Diego and Culver City in Los Angeles.  Apple also said it will expand existing operations in cities in the U.S. including Pittsburgh, New York and Boulder, Colorado, over the next three years.

 

MORE:  https://www.dispatch.com/business/20190304/ohio-runner-up-for-location-of-1-billion-apple-campus

MORE:  https://www.thisweeknews.com/business/20190304/ohio-runner-up-for-location-of-1-billion-apple-campus

12 hours ago, Columbo said:

The report didn’t say where Apple was looking in Ohio

Co*ugh*lumbus

^are you just speculating or do you know that as a fact?

Having "worked" with JobsOhio a couple years ago all they care about is Columbus.  They didn't give two shits about the jobs my company was trying to move to the city of Cincinnati so we took them to NKY.  If they worked on this potential Apple deal it would be my guess as well that they would have been located in Columbus.  

7 minutes ago, Pugu said:

^are you just speculating or do you know that as a fact?

Speculating. No insider info.

So we're runners up to the $1 billion campus, and get nothing? But other cities are getting smaller investments because they have some jobs already? Doesn't sound like a runner up to me.

 

It's getting a little tiring being "runners up" to so many large investments.

 

*Edit. Their pitch was probably to be part of Ohio State's Innovation District.

Edited March 5, 20196 yr by aderwent

23 minutes ago, Cincy513 said:

Having "worked" with JobsOhio a couple years ago all they care about is Columbus.  They didn't give two shits about the jobs my company was trying to move to the city of Cincinnati so we took them to NKY.  If they worked on this potential Apple deal it would be my guess as well that they would have been located in Columbus.  

 

I'd respectfully disagree - though in some instances I'm sure you're right. JobsOhio just got nearly $20 mill in credits for a large company in NEO committed to increasing jobs in the region over the next 3 years. 

Interesting.  I just found this:  https://www.jobsohio.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/jo_monthly_metrics_2018.pdf

 

You can see every deal--buy county, by jobs created, and by the incentive given.  Its done by month, not by county, unfortunately. So it will take some time to go through---will be interesting to see how much was in Cle, Cincy, and columbus---and if the incentives are skewed.  That said, even if no bias towards Columbus is shown, it doesn't mean it isn't there--the pdf just shows deals that closed. For all we know they could be selling columbus a lot more vigorously than they are CLE or Cincy. Check out the link--its got good info.

1 hour ago, Robuu said:

Speculating. No insider info.

 

^ Well, the article I posted did say that "Apple (has) a significant relationship with Ohio State University".  So you don't need Columbo to figure this out for you ?

45 minutes ago, aderwent said:

So we're runners up to the $1 billion campus, and get nothing? But other cities are getting smaller investments because they have some jobs already? Doesn't sound like a runner up to me.

 

It's getting a little tiring being "runners up" to so many large investments.

 

*Edit. Their pitch was probably to be part of Ohio State's Innovation District.

 

^ That's a likely scenario, in regards to the newly announced Innovation District going into OSU's West Campus area.

 

And despite the "runner-up" headline, it doesn't sound like we were runner-up to me either.  The article said: "Apple announced in December that it will build a 133-acre campus in Austin along with establishing new sites in Seattle, San Diego and Culver City in Los Angeles.  Apple also said it will expand existing operations in cities in the U.S. including Pittsburgh, New York and Boulder, Colorado, over the next three years."

 

Okay, I get Apple expanding existing operations in Pittsburgh, NYC and Boulder.  But if Apple chose Austin for the big prize, and gave smaller prizes to Seattle, San Diego and LA - doesn't that mean we finished in fifth place, JobsOhio?

4 hours ago, Columbo said:

 

^ That's a likely scenario, in regards to the newly announced Innovation District going into OSU's West Campus area.

 

And despite the "runner-up" headline, it doesn't sound like we were runner-up to me either.  The article said: "Apple announced in December that it will build a 133-acre campus in Austin along with establishing new sites in Seattle, San Diego and Culver City in Los Angeles.  Apple also said it will expand existing operations in cities in the U.S. including Pittsburgh, New York and Boulder, Colorado, over the next three years."

 

Okay, I get Apple expanding existing operations in Pittsburgh, NYC and Boulder.  But if Apple chose Austin for the big prize, and gave smaller prizes to Seattle, San Diego and LA - doesn't that mean we finished in fifth place, JobsOhio?

Yeah, this. How were we "runner up"...and yet got absolutely no consolation prize like these other cities did?  We seem to be getting screwed over a lot lately being a "runner up" city. smh.

 

If this good news keeps up it is going to turn one of us on here into Urban Ohio's version of Jman.

Ohio ranked 10th best for retirees, with its good location  and low cost of living being big draws.  I've often said that if you've made a decent living on the coasts or in Chicago, sell your house, buy one in Ohio and use the difference to put your kids through college. You can also downsize and live in a fairly urban state with access to many big-city amenities....

 

The Best States To Retire In (Ranked) – Do You Agree With Our Top Picks?

https://www.finance101.com/states-retire/37

 

Common scene in the Cleveland suburb Lakewood, Ohio

Edited April 15, 20196 yr by KJP

The Round 22 of Ohio historic Tax credit applicants:

 

Might be one reason why we're seeing so many new out-of-state license plates coming especially from the so-called "expensive states"....

 

A couple of patterns stand out. For one, prices can explain a lot about the regional distribution of good jobs. You need to earn more in expensive places to stay above the median wage. The metropolitan areas around Austin, Tex., and Cleveland have roughly the same total employment. But living in Cleveland is cheaper. So while only 18.5 percent of Austin’s jobs offer good wages to workers without college degrees, opportunity jobs account for 30 percent of Cleveland’s employment.

 

Where the Good Jobs Are

For people without a college degree, finding work that offers decent pay can be a challenge. The solution may require a change in scenery.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/business/economy/good-jobs-no-college-degrees.html

Business groups are lobbying hard to save tax breaks for richest Ohioans, touting what the cuts have done
There's only one problem: Their math
https://t.co/MFYXCK6Lge

 

Ohio, Indiana in Michigan aren't doing so well among the northern states. But most economic mobility is highly localized. And most residents in Ohio cities aren't doing so well either...

 

 

 

Has Columbus peaked? I heard some people talking that Columbus' growth is slowing:  two consecutive years of decreasing GDP growth, despite a healthy national economy and in context of its prior fast economic growth. 

I wouldn't read too much in one year... look at what the other 2Cs have been through in that time.

4 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

I wouldn't read too much in one year... look at what the other 2Cs have been through in that time.

 

This isn't one year..The chart shows Columbus' drop starting in 2014 and continuing on until at least 2017.

If you plot a trend line over the entire graph though there is still growth with 2014-15 being an outlier.

Lol, as someone who is a Cleveland booster, I don’t see the point in acting as if the two cities are in competition. I was in Columbus in February and it’s booming.

 

What’s good for any of Ohio’s big cities is good for all of Ohio. Competition is silly.  Attempting to stir the pot on UO is even sillier.   

Edited July 14, 20195 yr by jeremyck01

10 hours ago, jeremyck01 said:

Lol, as someone who is a Cleveland booster, I don’t see the point in acting as if the two cities are in competition. I was in Columbus in February and it’s booming.

 

What’s good for any of Ohio’s big cities is good for all of Ohio. Competition is silly.  Attempting to stir the pot on UO is even sillier.   

 

Overall point taken, but acting like you can tell if a city is booming or not by an overnight visit in Feb is quite humorous.