"One question  - do you mean to say that the visitors and sellers at Trader's World in Monroe are literally driving in from Appalachia for the day? Or do you mean that this place simply attracts the dirt poor and is a draw for "Appies"? IE, Trader's World is the go-to place where you go in the Cin-Day region if you come from Appalachia or if you are so poor that you need to buy Chinese toothpaste laced with ethylene glycol?"

 

I was using the flea markets in southern Columbiana County as a point of reference. I've never been to Traders World - so I have no idea.

Do vendors at Traders World make a profit? ... My cousin does.

 

Is most of the stuff sold junk?  .... yes

 

The draw of Traders Wold is primarily with-in the Cin-Day corridor, heavily from the surrounding area (Monro-Middletown-Franklin, etc), although they do get their share of people outside the area. 

 

general economic affect on Trader's World....

 

+ More local vendors today than there were 18 months ago.  Used to be more vendors from over 100 miles came to sell.

 

+ More people just mulling around these days and not buying.  My cousin says this really kicked in last October.  The place would be crowded, but people "kept their wallets closed".

 

In general, the place is for locals to spend a few hours on the weekend, maybe buy something, maybe not.  There are a few quality draws for collectors, but not many.  The shirt people will make pretty much anything you want.  I buy from them to get grandparent presents from the kids.

 

Obviously, a message board is not going to replace talking to a real person in-depth.  But to give you a basic answer on your question...

 

Undergraduate vs Graduate school...

 

Undergraduate is what most people think when they think of college.  This represents the standard Associate degrees (often called 2-year degrees because you generally take 2 years worth of full-time classes)  and the more popular bachelor degrees, such as Bachelor's in Arts, Bachelor's in Science, etc.  This is the standard 4-year degree that most people associate with college, and what a good deal of employers are looking for.

 

"Graduate School" refers to work above the Bachelors (4-year) degree, meaning Masters and Doctorate degrees.  The MBA (Master's in Business Administration) is considered a Master's degree and therefore is considered "graduate" level work.

 

Being a high school sophomore, you are looking into the specifics of college much sooner than I did.  I decided around that time that I wanted to go to college and what I wanted to study.  But I did not start to look at colleges until my senior year.

 

Good for you! 

Miami has a very good undergad business school (and right now are just completing a beautiful new building for the school) and there is a significant Chicago pipeline.  Many, many students are from Chicago (mostly the north shore and more upscale western burbs) and they usually go back.  As such a lot of recruiters are actually from the Chicago area (more than most Ohio schools of similar size like BG, Kent or OU).  While it has been a while, most of my friends (whether from Chicago or else where) who were business majors ended up in that city.  Interestingly (of about about ten that I can recall) only one remained there after 7-8 years.

If affordability is a major issue, taking classes online is also an alternative that is growing in popularity and reputability.

Some people buy almost everything they own at flea markets and go there every week. The only things they can't get there are some groceries and medicine.

Hi Friends,

 

I am Joseph from London newbie of this site.

Business School have lots of  opportunity for student.

 

Joseph

*Edited by Moderators*

 

 

 

Thanks Joseph, I think you helped me set a record - at 8:06 you spammed the board. At 8:11, you had your account banned.

 

Carry on folks! :-)

^Its tough to follow this great point by joseph001 but I will try.

 

"Business" school is great, but a lot of people don't really understand what it means. If you go to "business" school does that mean you wear a suit and carry a briefcase downtown somewhere? I think its hard to guess what it means when you're a sophomore in high school. Usually people with business degrees do something specific like money management, marketing, operations management, purchasing, sales, etc. And for each focus area of business, there are hundreds of categories of business types (such as engineering firms and investment houses, factories and hospitals, etc.)

 

So coming from left field, it might be wise to use your time in undergraduate to explore what you might want to do specifically. For example, if you want to a company that does engineering work, you better have a really good fundamental understanding of what that company is producing in order to manage its business plan. Maybe get an undergrad degree in Electical Engineering with a minor in business, and then apply to business school for an MBA.

 

There are millions of people with "business" undergrad degrees managing fast food joints and finding it hard to apply this general education to something that will provide them a good income and a solid chance of finding employement. And a lot of people think they will get their MBA but never make it there, life gets in the way sometimes.

 

To summarize, figure out what type of business interests you, get an undergrad degree in something related, minor in business, get your MBA after that.

How did I miss this thread?

 

I love a good Flea Market or yard sale!

 

You have to have a good eye so you can tell the diffence between trash and treasure.

I find internships/ co-ops to be key.. A company is much more likely to hire you if you have worked for them while in school. I started my career that way, working for a small film aerial photography company when I went to OSU. Right after graduation I was able to land a job with a much larger international company using many aerial survey systems, that provides me benefits, ect. So far it has been great, and it was easier getting a job then I had ever expected.

I find internships/ co-ops to be key.. A company is much more likely to hire you if you have worked for them while in school. I started my career that way, working for a small film aerial photography company when I went to OSU. Right after graduation I was able to land a job with a much larger international company using many aerial survey systems, that provides me benefits, ect. So far it has been great, and it was easier getting a job then I had ever expected.

 

That's exactly wht I did.  I was a summer intern and a couple of winters went in for "special project" for SOHIO and upon graduation they offered me a job.

 

I sure I'd be an employee today if SOHIO was still based in Cleveland.

State tourism campaign brings in millions

Each $1 spent generated $12, officials say

Thursday,  March 19, 2009 3:26 AM

By Marla Matzer Rose

THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

 

With Ohio in a recession, now's a good time to be putting money into tourism, given its proven return on investment, state officials said yesterday.

 

A marketing campaign launched in May by the Ohio Tourism Division generated 1.8 million additional visits and $436.9 million in spending, according to data released at the annual Ohio Tourism Legislative Day...

 

[email protected]

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/business/stories/2009/03/19/ohio_tourism.ART_ART_03-19-09_C10_JGD9GFC.html?sid=101

And what exactly is the campaign?  Where is the money being spent?

A bit of background regarding why I chose to post this and my position. I originally supported President Obama's $700 billion bailout package, but after noting all of the non-infrastructure related projects that were saddled on in an effort to get the bill passed (to appease the Senators and House members who voted on this), I've come to realize that this may not have been the best of bills. It has its flaws, and its upsides. While some states are rejecting the money, and some have squandered it in non-infrastructure projects, others are embracing it and using it for infrastructure-related improvements.

 

And that is where the Recovery Conservation Corps comes in, similar to successful programs in the past. If we had used a smaller bailout package that went to something similar to the CCC or the WPA, we may have had more supporters. And it's where my position stands today.

 

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Young Ohioans will improve state parks

By Barry M. Horstman, Cincinnati Enquirer, April 23, 2009

 

Borrowing a New Deal idea on putting people to work, Ohio and Cincinnati officials Thursday unveiled a new program in which young Ohioans will be hired to improve the state’s parks, trails and other natural resources.

 

The Recovery Conservation Corps (RCC) will be built around work crews of teens and young adults that will maintain and upgrade the state’s parks, forests, wetlands and other natural areas, said Sean Logan, director of the Ohio Department of Natural Resources...

 

Interesting, I hiked through John Bryant State Park outside Yellow Springs last weekend and was thinking about the New Deal and the CCC's influence in the park systems.

I don't put a lot of credibility in this group, since they tend to perform statistical back-flips to make numbers say what they want.  But it is, afterall, an opposing viewpoint.

 

 

http://columbus.bizjournals.com/columbus/stories/2009/05/04/daily3.html#tp_newCommentAnchor

 

Think tank: Stimulus to worsen job losses

Business First of Columbus

Monday, May 4, 2009, 12:06pm EDT

 

The Buckeye Institute used Warren County as the backdrop for a news conference Monday on a study that concludes the $787 billion federal stimulus package could cost Ohio up to 91,000 jobs.

 

It chose the northeast Ohio county because commissioners there recently made national headlines by rejecting a $373,000 stimulus grant to buy hybrid buses, with Republican Mike Kilburn calling the stimulus “filthy money.”...

 

 

Northeast Ohio? If they can't get geography right, how can they get numbers right?

The conservative element will never, ever recognize that this near-depression creates a need for bootstrapping.

 

And Mike Kilburn came off as a mentally unstable redneck blowhard with that statement...  :x But he's typical of local thinking.

 

To me Warren County is the epitome of a place that doesn't care about investment in people and which has its head permanently in the sand. Locals here have this ignorant backward looking cornpone idea that Warren is "real country" with a rustic farm based economy and all of the "self reliance" baggage. And in reality it's a chunk of sloppy Wal-Mart buying lower middle class proletarian sprawl that is entirely economically dependent on Dayton and Cincinnati. When someone says "Warren county" think "Miamisburg south".  :evil:

 

When the local commissioners discuss jobs, they think that a crappy $10/hr wage in a "logistics facility" (aka fossil fuel based truck stop) is "good" wages and that somehow this is supposed to drive sales of $500K McMansions in San Mar Gale.

 

The reasoning in Warren is bush league stupid. Not worth holding up as an example of rational objection to the economic stimulus.

 

Kilburn and his ilk just plain despise Obama and they should just admit it.

^

You know there is  fairly recent ag census out (2007) for Ohio that has a lot of good stat data on Warren and other Ohio counties.  You can actually see how many full and part time farm operators are left in the county.

 

 

A right-wing think tank releases a study that supports a right-wing point of view. I'm shocked!

http://www.milkeninstitute.org/nahightech/nahightech.taf?rankyear=2007

 

Columbus is doing better than the rest in the state. Ranked #45

 

 

I do think all of the 3 C's should double their employment to make a dent in the rankings and improve the state economic rankings.

Another business bites the dust. they aren't even issuing paychecks this week..

 

InkStop abruptly closed all 152 retail stores and laid off all workers

By Janet Cho, The Plain Dealer October 02, 2009, 12:26PM

 

WARRENSVILLE HEIGHTS, Ohio - InkStop Inc., a specialty retailer of ink, toner, consumer electronics and other supplies for small businesses and home offices, abruptly told its employees that it was shuttering all 152 stores starting today and laying off all its employees until further notice.

 

Read more here: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2009/10/inkstop_abruptly_closed_all_15.html

There was one in Mason that I tried when it opened a couple of years ago, because I received a mailer for "big bargains" at their grand opening. I had to return a really junky iPod knockoff that I bought at that sale. The store was nice enough but I never had a reason to go back again.

 

The prices didn't seem that great and the specials were things like used color laser printers that consumed some godawfully expensive ($300) cartridge packs.

Inkstop corporate sounds like REALLY nice people, too:  :x They are stiffing their employees on the last paycheck and they didn't pay the medical insurance due at the start of September.

 

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/21184232/detail.html

 

InkStop Letter To Employees

 

POSTED: Friday, October 2, 2009

To All Store Associates,

 

....

 

Paychecks will not be issued on Friday due to our cash constraints. We are working on a plan to improve our cash flow situation and re-open under better circumstances.

...

Medical Coverage – This is the initial notification that the September premium has not been paid. Therefore, your last day of coverage for the qualifying event is August 31, 2009. ... For individuals/children with severe medical conditions, individuals should contact your local Health & Human Services for a Medicaid application.

 

According HIPAA, in order to have guaranteed issue minimizing pre-existing conditions, you cannot have a break in coverage for longer than 62 days.

 

 

Tools. A@@holes. B@stards. May the board of directors rot in hell...

Is this a national chain?

They were putting one next to a new Chipotle in Bridgetown on Cincy's westside.  the sign has been up for a couple weeks, but........I guess that's a moot point now!     

That's really terrible about the health care, just unconscionable.  In an average month, I see at least 3 doctors and either my spouse or my baby see 1, that's a heap of money if you don't have insurance.  Shoot, it's $100 for co-pays for me and I DO have insurance, never mind my $$$$ premium, but it's STILL less than if I had to pay for those visits out of pocket, that just blows my mind.

Ohio's business climate earns a lofty ranking from Site Selection magazine

By Tom Breckenridge, The Cleveland Plain Dealer

November 03, 2009, 7:30AM

Ohio's success in fostering new and expanded plant projects helped it land fourth place in a state-by-state survey of business climates.

 

Site Selection magazine announced Ohio's lofty status Monday.

 

The magazine's rankings were based half on the number of new business facilities and half on a national survey of corporate site seekers.

 

In March, Site Selection reported that Ohio, for the third year running, won more projects -- 503 new or expanded facilities -- than any other state in 2008.

 

More at: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2009/11/ohios_business_climate_earns_a.html

 

We've been tops in the ranking for a while.  I wonder how this jives with our overall job losses, though.  Maybe we just participate in the survey better, maybe we are losing so many other jobs that the new/expanded facilities just don't keep up in employment.

InkStop files for Chapter 7 bankruptcy

By Janet Cho, The Plain Dealer

November 10, 2009, 6:07PM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Ink and toner retailer InkStop Inc. has filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy, saying the cash-strapped company owes too much money to reopen and will instead liquidate its assets and close for good.  InkStop laid off 456 employees on Oct. 1, telling them it hadn't paid their health care premiums for the past month and didn't have the money to issue their final paychecks.

 

Full story at http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2009/11/inkstop_2.html

Ohio’s jobless rate hits 10.9% in December

Business First of Columbus

Friday, January 22, 2010, 9:27am EST

 

Ohio’s jobless rate crept toward 11 percent in December as 17,000 more workers joined the ranks of the out of work last month, according to the state Department of Job and Family Services.

 

The department Friday said the state’s seasonally adjusted unemployment rate struck 10.9 percent in December, up from 10.6 percent in November and the third consecutive monthly increase.  Ohio’s unemployment rate in December 2008 stood at 7.4 percent.

 

Full article at http://columbus.bizjournals.com/columbus/stories/2010/01/18/daily36.html

Cross posted:

 

I came across this analysis of a report by researcher George Zeller on the most recent economic indicators for Ohio. 

 

It is interesting because it shows for the first time in over a decade that the numbers of unemployment claims may be leveling off for Northeast Ohio and even showing growth for the Youngstown and Canton areas. 

It did indicate that overall the job destruction was continuing, but not so much at the expense of Northeast Ohio. 

Could this be the end to our downward slide!!! 

 

Maybe most surprising, the findings are not as good for Columubus and Cincinnati, the typical more immune areas.

 

“Columbus passed Cincinnati this week to restore its unwanted distinction as the Ohio urban metropolitan area with the most elevated level of new unemployment claims above normal "job growth" levels at this time of year. Surprisingly, Ohio's most elevated levels of current new unemployment claims are in Columbus, while the second most elevated levels of new unemployment claims are in Cincinnati. The third highest current levels of currently elevated job loss are in Dayton-Springfield, with Toledo ranking fourth highest. In this week's update, Youngstown-Warren has the state's least elevated level, a slightly better performance than Canton had. In fact, both Youngstown-Warren and Canton have returned to a low "job growth" level of new unemployment claims this week. These rankings are relative measures, since most of the entire state in 57 counties is still currently suffering job destruction from layoffs.”

 

http://coolcleveland.com/index.php/Newsletter/Roldo011310

Poverty soars in Ohio

Among state's unemployed, 33 percent are poor

Friday,  January 22, 2010 - 11:30 AM

By Catherine Candisky

THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

 

Rising unemployment and sinking wages have pushed record numbers of Ohioans into poverty.  The State of Poverty in Ohio -- unveiled four days before Gov. Ted Strickland's official State of the State speech -- was released today by the Ohio Association of Community Action Agencies.  It provides some startling statistics and reveals what many Ohioans know firsthand.

 

Simply put, things have gotten worse.  Since 2002, the state's population has increased by 1.2 percent while the number of persons living in poverty has grown by 41.7 percent.

 

Click here to see the full State of Poverty in Ohio report (70-page PDF)

 

Full article at http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/01/22/poverty-soars-in-ohio.html?sid=101

ANNUAL STATE OF THE STATE

Demon Drop: When will Ohio's plunge end?

The state continues to rank low in most economic measures, but leaders disagree on the best way out of the long slide.

 

NET JOBS: Ohio lost 184,900 nonfarm jobs last year and 339,900 since Gov. Ted Strickland took office, which ranks 41st among all states.  During the past decade, only Michigan has lost more jobs than Ohio.

 

MANUFACTURING JOBS: Ohio lost 89,200 jobs last year and 169,400 during Strickland's term, a 21.6 percent decrease that ranks the state 45th of the 47 states that report manufacturing totals.

 

UNEMPLOYMENT: Ohio's rate was 10.9 percent in December, up from 7.4 percent last year and 5.5 percent at the end of 2006.  Ohio's increases were the 35th worst among all states since 2006 and 41st worst in the past decade.

 

POPULATION: Ohio added 14,573 residents last year and 50,150 since Strickland took office, an increase of 0.4 percent that ranks 46th nationwide.  Ohio is 47th during the past decade.

 

PER-CAPITA PERSONAL INCOME: Ohio's amount increased 2.0 percent in 2008 to $36,021 and by 5.7 percent since 2006, ranking 36th in the nation.  The national average last year was $40,208, and Ohio is 48th in the percentage increase during the past decade

 

Graphic: How Ohio measures up to the rest of the nation in 15 economic indicators

 

Full article at http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/01/24/copy/demondrop.html?adsec=politics&sid=101

This is such a great feel-good article. An American company proudly serving Americans serving overseas.

 

Ohio tool box maker tosses in treats for soldiers

OH State Wire, Jan 29, 2010

 

VAN WERT, Ohio (AP) - Workers who make tool storage units are stocking them with candy bars, cards and letters before they're shipped overseas to U.S. troops in Afghanistan.

 

Employees at Kennedy Manufacturing in western Ohio decided to toss in the care packages after finding out that one their newest customers is the military.

This is such a great feel-good article. An American company proudly serving Americans serving overseas.

 

Ohio tool box maker tosses in treats for soldiers

OH State Wire, Jan 29, 2010

 

VAN WERT, Ohio (AP) - Workers who make tool storage units are stocking them with candy bars, cards and letters before they're shipped overseas to U.S. troops in Afghanistan.

 

Employees at Kennedy Manufacturing in western Ohio decided to toss in the care packages after finding out that one their newest customers is the military.

 

Thanks for posting.  Great Story!

How can Ohio keep ranking at the top in new facility investment yet rank in the bottom 5 in new job creation? I guess this state is the midst of a major economic transition??

 

Ohio Tops in Business Facility Investment

March 4, 2010 6:39 a.m.

 

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- For the fourth consecutive year, Ohio led the nation in new and expanded business facilities in 2009, finds Site Selection magazine, which awarded its "Governors Cup" to the state.

 

This marks the eighth time Ohio has earned the magazine's recognition. The state also received the award in 1993, 1994, 1995, 2003, 2006, 2007, and 2008, according to Gov. Ted Strickland.

 

The award is based on corporate location projects that meet at least one of three criteria: involving a capital investment of at least $1 million, creating at least 50 new jobs, and/or adding at least 20,000 square feet of new floor area.

 

READ MORE AT:

http://business-journal.com/clients/business-journal/ohio-tops-in-business-facility-investment-p15870.htm?twindow=Default&smenu=1&mad=No

^ That is goofy, but it's probably becuase they're new facilities for old companies moving to suburbs.  Like Eaton... they're "adding" tons of new square footage in Ohio.  This metric is meaningful to construction industry jobs and no others.

^ Yep, the Eastons, Polari, West Chesters and Masons are poaching former Downtown companies. We're going though what other states experienced in the '80s.

And who benefits?  Contractors.  They get to build cheaply on clean-slate land.  If I'm a contractor, I'm dropping hints left and right to potential clients that downtown sucks and everyone wants to be in the burbs nowadays.  As long as this is believed, I've got hi-margin jobs coming in as long as there's still open land out there.

This story goes nicely with the Forbes "rating".

 

 

Ohio earns top nod for economic development from magazine

By Paula Schleis

Beacon Journal business writer

 

It's March. It must be time to recognize Ohio as the No. 1 state for economic development.

 

For the fourth year in a row, Site Selection gave the Buckeye State its Governor's Cup, saying it rose to the top in corporate expansion the previous year.

 

http://www.ohio.com/business/86423057.html

 

Its because we have situations like Eaton. We're so afraid to lose companies that we subsidize their move from one municipality to the next.

Its because we have situations like Eaton. We're so afraid to lose companies that we subsidize their move from one municipality to the next.

 

Correct, there are a lot of people pushing for Regionalism right now, but we are about 10 years behind the curve on it.

I'm kind of thinking that American Greetings situation is a fruit of the Eaton situation. Smart move for AG. They claim they could leave and state gives them a bunch of tax breaks. With our current situation, Ohio and Brooklyn really have no other choice.

Agree with the decision or not, this is a big victory for attracting potential employers to the State.  Especially those employers whose business operations are inherently dangerous.  'Deliberate intent' will be a hard standard to meet.

 

Ohio Supreme Court delivers victory for business and defeat for injured workers; Justice Paul Pfeifer dissents

 

COLUMBUS, Ohio - The Ohio Supreme Court on Tuesday delivered a huge victory for business and insurance companies and a loss to injured workers.

 

In two separate but related decisions, the court ruled that a 2005 state law restricting lawsuits workers injured on the job can bring against their employers is constitutional.

 

The rulings mean injured workers -- who remain entitled to receiving workers' compensation benefits through the state -- will have a much more difficult time bringing injury cases against private employers.

 

FULL STORY: http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2010/03/ohio_supreme_court_delivers_hu.html

Ohio home sales rose in May, but national sales unexpectedly fell

Published: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 10:34 AM    Updated: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 11:23 AM

Michelle Jarboe, The Plain Dealer

 

 

But a nationwide report released today showed that sales of previously owned homes fell last month, a sign that the housing market is struggling to maintain momentum now that several incentive programs have expired. The National Association of Realtors said sales of existing homes dropped 2.2 percent from April to May, according to seasonally adjusted figures. Without adjusting for seasonal patterns, existing home sales rose just 0.8 percent. Many analysts were expecting a much larger increase.

 

In Ohio, where the Realtors combine reports on new and existing homes, sales rose 10.6 percent from April to May, according to a report released this morning. The Ohio Association of Realtors does not provide seasonally adjusted figures.

 

Home sales are up, across the board, when compared to last spring. In the 15-county local area, house sales jumped 38.5 percent from May 2009, while condo sales were 64.7 percent higher last month than a year before. Statewide, sales of new and existing homes were up 27.7 percent from May 2009.

 

In Ohio, where the Realtors report average prices instead of medians, the average sale price for a new or existing home was $137,310 in May, up 3.9 percent from a year before. In Northeast Ohio, the average sale price for a single-family home was $128,622, a 19.6 percent increase from May 2009. The average sale price for a condo was $123,568, up 8.5 percent from a year before.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2010/06/ohio_home_sales_rose_in_may_bu.html

 

Friday, June 25, 2010

NCI to restart idled Middletown plantBusiness First of Columbus

 

Houston-based NCI Building Systems Inc. has moved into Ohio, buying a mothballed plant 60 miles south of Columbus from where it can extend its business into the Midwest and Northeast.

 

The $968 million-revenue metal products maker said Thursday it acquired a Middletown facility idled six years ago by Material Sciences Corp. The 170,000-square-foot coil coatings plant and 21 acres cost NCI Building System $4.9 million in cash.

 

Full story at: http://columbus.bizjournals.com/columbus/stories/2010/06/21/daily46.html?t=printable

^ This article right? Or they are talking about Chillicothe Ohio?

Wow - this analysis is pretty telling about the manufacturing economy over the past decade.  Cincinnati fared the best in Ohio, but it seems the sooner we move past dependence on manufacturing jobs the better.

http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2010/07/12/daily34.html?surround=lfn

 

Six of Ohio’s seven largest metropolitan areas are among the nation’s biggest losers of manufacturing jobs since the turn of the millennium, an analysis of the latest federal work force data has found.

 

Read more: Sad analysis: Ohio manufacturing jobs pounded - Business Courier of Cincinnati

 

 

 

^honestly, this is pretty stale news. If anything, there has been a slight uptick in manufacturing in NE Ohio recently. Of course we need to diversify, but thhe broad brush strokes ignore the opportunities that are there.