I think this is fairly simple if someone wants to do the math.

 

https://www.census.gov/hhes/commuting/ (County to County Commuting Flows)

Go to link (Only from 2009-2013 though), go to all the counties in the Cincinnati MSA, add up all the commuters inbound from Dayton metro counties.

 

Find the percentage of commuters into Cincinnati MSA from Dayton MSA, then do the same vice versa.

 

What does the percentage need to be as percentage of workers?  I have no idea how to do the math on that, I could only figure out how many people are travling from Dayton Metro Counties to Cincy Metro counties and vice versa

 

Edit: I believe you do the math as for example Warren County (Cincy Metro) # of all inbound workers from Dayton Metro / # of all inbound workers total

 

Do that for each county (Hamilton, Warren, Butler, Kenton, Campbell, etc.) so total Cincinnati # inbound workers from Dayton Metro / # of all inbound workers total

 

That should give a certain % say 20% and then it has to equal what the MSA Designation needs to be which may be like 30%?

 

You can also find the data here if you know how to work it.

 

https://onthemap.ces.census.gov/

 

Also many people at Ford in Sharonville where I work lives in the Dayton metro.

 

10.7% of Dayton workers(33,388) work in the Cincinnati Metro.

11.2% of Dayton workers(36,861)  live in the Cincinnati Metro.

21.9% is the exchange rate of the two metros involving 70249 workers. 

2014 data

 

 

I did not use all workers such as farming or the number would be greater. I used primary workers.

 

Will somebody certainly managed to scoop up some actual statistics, but as stands out only a small percentage of such residents make such commutes.

^those numbers are less than I thought they would be based on the hype but, I don't know what the threshold is for combining them.

 

I guess you could look at a place like Baltimore and DC to look, as that is a CSA by the Census Bureau.  If the rate of exchange is around 20% like this is, then I would say you can combine them into a CSA

 

And that is exactly what I had in mind. That could be the most likely outcome. You know if Los Angeles and San Diego were to go that length then they could most likely be a CSA and not an MSA. And you are more likely to see the metro areas of Hartford, CT and Springfield, MA merge together than you are of Cincinnati and Dayton together. The same could be said of Columbus, GA and Auburn, AL. Their metro areas are much closer than Cincinnati and Dayton's are.

There would be benefit if it actually acted like a unified metro, with a single central airport and proper transit system. But, you know. :/

There would be benefit if it actually acted like a unified metro, with a single central airport and proper transit system. But, you know. :/

 

Will I doubt it will get any of that.

Of you are more likely to see the metro areas of Hartford, CT and Springfield, MA merge together...

 

Indeed.

 

 

 

There would be benefit if it actually acted like a unified metro, with a single central airport and proper transit system.

 

We all know that won't happen but there are many CSA's with multiple airports, even in Ohio (Cleveland Hopkins and CAK).  Though I do agree there would be a major benefit if RTA and SORTA teamed up for some sort of Southwest Ohio rail-line between Dayton, Middletown, Hamilton, and Cincinnati.

Of you are more likely to see the metro areas of Hartford, CT and Springfield, MA merge together...

 

Indeed.

 

 

 

There would be benefit if it actually acted like a unified metro, with a single central airport and proper transit system.

 

We all know that won't happen but there are many CSA's with multiple airports, even in Ohio (Cleveland Hopkins and CAK).  Though I do agree there would be a major benefit if RTA and SORTA teamed up for some sort of Southwest Ohio rail-line between Dayton, Middletown, Hamilton, and Cincinnati.

 

That certainly makes sense. As you know Baltimore-Washington is not a proper MSA. Instead it's a CSA, and both the cities still have their own metro areas. Of course Baltimore and Washington do share an airport together, however Washington has two airports for itself. Dulles and Ronald Reagan. And not only that both the cities do have their own media markets and economic identities.

^Indeed.  Ditto with Boston-Providence, etc.

^Indeed.  Ditto with Boston-Providence, etc.

 

Well allow me to elaborate on this one. Providence according to the Census Bureau is part of Boston's CSA but Providence has its own MSA as well. Not only that it too has its own airport (Theodore Green) and media market. And places like Worcester, MA and Manchester, NH are part of Boston's CSA but they have their own MSA's as well and their own airports to top it off. And if Providence, Worcester, and Manchester didn't have their own airports then Logan would of been a sardine can.