Let me get this straight...In the recent Marcus Fiesel case there was a reward of $10,000 for someone who helped to find the then 'missing' child.

http://www.childseeknetwork.com/kids/marcus.htm

 

Now today they have announced that there is a $6,400 reward for anyone with information about the recent dog abuse case in St. Clair Township (Butler County).

http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070319/NEWS01/703190373

 

I just don't get it.  While the $10,000 is > the $6,400...its not by much.  Especially in terms of enticing someone to come forward with incriminating information in the case.

 

$6,400 - Dog Abuse Case

$10,000 - Kidnapping, Murder/Child Abuse Case

 

Just something that made me scratch my head...

without clicking on any of your links, who is sponsoring the rewards? You know those APL folks have such deep pockets.

Here is the breakdown...

 

Animal Abuse Case:

-$2,500 from PETA

-$2,500 from the national humane society

-$1,420 from private donations

 

Marcus Fiesel Case:

-$10,000 Jeff Ruby (private)

well, you have your answer. three separate parties are trying to gain exposure in the media and defend their organizations interests

My question was:  'Whats worth more?'...so the actions taken by local agencies show that a dog abuse case is pretty close in value as a human rights/murder/child abuse case.  There in lies my point...its a sad world!

Well, not all kids get the attention that Marcus Feisel got, either.

I'll tell you what, go find the non-profit missing child fund and call them. Or hell, you can come up with some money for them.

 

The humanitarian organizations exists to protect those who cannot protect themselves. If they choose to fund such rewards, let them be. (which ties back into the media exposure)

Sorry...hot off the presses.  The total is now over $7,000.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070319/NEWS01/303190038

 

Well, not all kids get the attention that Marcus Feisel got, either.

 

That is my point...the highest profile case locally (in recent memory) only gathered enough support to drum up 10k, and that was after days and days of a missing child.  A dog gets mistreated and almost immediately the troops are round up and everyone is looking for answers.  Look I understand that these groups are supporting their respective efforts...and I'm not questioning that.  I just find it a little sad that there seems to be financial support for a case involving an abused dog than a case involving a missing child.

That is my point...the highest profile case locally (in recent memory) only gathered enough support to drum up 10k, and that was after days and days of a missing child.  A dog gets mistreated and almost immediately the troops are round up and everyone is looking for answers.  Look I understand that these groups are supporting their respective efforts...and I'm not questioning that.  I just find it a little sad that there seems to be financial support for a case involving an abused dog than a case involving a missing child.

 

I agree with you on this.  I understand the differences in funding the rewards as well, but I would be more concerned over a missing child than a missing dog. 

 

 

come clean UncleRando, you do have information about Marcus, and you're just waiting for the reward to go up, so you can collect.

 

(i have no knowledge of the case)

Rando, I understand where you are coming from, but you're ignoring the very reasonable input from the pope. You're making the mistake of equating monetary reward with how much value we place on life.

 

But if you do want to get into the nitty gritty of the specific cases and compare them, OK. It's a bit disengenuous to say that a dog got "mistreated." It was skinned and boiled. As for Marcus, he was only missing at the time, it's wasn't the murder case it later became.

 

The biggest reason nobody ponied up cash for Marcus? Because it was clear from the start that Liz Carrol was lying her ass off when she said he was missing. That story was questioned almost from the beginning, and plenty of people rightly surmised that there was more going on than was being let on. No trust, no sympathy, no cash.

Reward tops $8K in dog killing

BY MEAGAN ENGLE | [email protected]

March 20, 2007

 

TRENTON – The reward for information in one of the most extreme cases of animal cruelty ever seen in Butler County is now more than $8,000, thanks to private contributions, officials said Monday.

 

The remains of an estimated 2-year-old male chow/pit bull mix were found last week along Four Mile Creek in St. Clair Twp. The dog, thought to have weighed between 35 and 40 pounds, had been boiled alive in either oil or water and then skinned, according to a humane society veterinarian who performed an autopsy.

 

The Humane Society of the United States, the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals and Animal Friends Humane Society in Trenton is offering the reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of those responsible.

 

Donations made over the weekend brought the total reward from $6,420 to more than $8,000 as of Monday afternoon, said Butler County Animal Control Chief Vickey Steier. Steier said she expects more donations to be made.

 

Grocery store owner and former dog groomer Pam Lysakowski said customers of Johnson Grocery on Hamilton-Mason Road in Hamilton are talking about the case.

 

"People coming in are upset," she said. "It's just because this one is horrific. People can't understand why someone would do this."

 

Pledges may be made to the Animal Friends Humane Society in Trenton by contacting Executive Director Leland Gordon at (513) 867-5005 or [email protected].

 

Anyone with information about the case should contact Steier at (513) 200-6621 or the Humane Society at (513) 867-5727.

I think it would be important to catch the guy who boiled the dog, because that is obviously a very sick mind that enjoys cruelty.  Other, possibly more serious crimes are sure to follow.

Boiled dog case reward now $10K

March 22, 2007 | CINCINNATI ENQUIRER

 

The reward in the case of the dog found boiled and skinned in Butler County last week has climbed to $10,000.

 

Authorities said this morning at a news conference that they have an unnamed "person of interest," but they are still seeking tips from the public. If you have information, call 513-200-6621.

 

State Rep. Courtney Combs attended the news conference and said Ohio's laws on animal cruelty are too weak.

 

He says the case of the dog being found boiled and skinned in St. Clair Township was serious enough that it should be considered a felony, Combs said.

 

But under current law, animal abuse is a misdemeanor offense with a maximum penalty of six months in jail and $2,500 fine, said Butler County Prosecutor Robin Piper.

 

Combs said he and Piper will work together on legislation he hopes to introduce in May.

 

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070322/NEWS01/303220016

But under current law, animal abuse is a misdemeanor offense with a maximum penalty of six months in jail and $2,500 fine.

 

This may sound harsh, but that sounds adequate for me. We have shelters full of unwanted animals and I don't see any reason for taxpayers to support such a criminal for more than six months.

People who commit unspeakable acts of cruelty, whether against people or animals, should be given a thorough workup to determine whether they carry any infectious diseases. If they don't, they should be shipped off to a colony where they're fed and kept healthy for use as organ donors.

 

The ones who aren't fit for use as organ donors should be sold to pharmaceutical companies or donated to medical schools for use as lab animals.

 

The guy who boiled and skinned the dog should be used in vivisection experiments. Without anaesthetic. :whip: