June 24, 200915 yr Drop Inn Center Must Relocate Or Risk Funding City Threatens To Cut Funds For Homeless Shelter POSTED: 3:54 pm EDT June 24, 2009 CINCINNATI -- The city's largest homeless shelter could lose its funding unless it moves. DropInn.org The Drop Inn Center is located across Central Parkway from the new School for the Creative and Performing Arts, which is nearing completion. City officials are buying a new building to house the social services agency due to concerns about student safety, but workers at the shelter said they don't want to move. City Council has threatened to cut funding to the Drop Inn Center unless they agree to relocate. Copyright 2009 by WLWT.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
June 24, 200915 yr I imagine that the city could play the Megan's Law rule. The homeless tend to have a higher percentage of registered sex offenders (mostly because they have such limited choices as it is).
June 24, 200915 yr This is fantastic. It's nice to get a good surprise in this neighborhood once and a while.
June 24, 200915 yr Drop Inn Center Must Relocate Or Risk Funding City Threatens To Cut Funds For Homeless Shelter POSTED: 3:54 pm EDT June 24, 2009 CINCINNATI -- The city's largest homeless shelter could lose its funding unless it moves. DropInn.org The Drop Inn Center is located across Central Parkway from the new School for the Creative and Performing Arts, which is nearing completion. City officials are buying a new building to house the social services agency due to concerns about student safety, but workers at the shelter said they don't want to move. City Council has threatened to cut funding to the Drop Inn Center unless they agree to relocate. Copyright 2009 by WLWT.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Why must there be a factual or grammatical error in EVERY story. I hope this story is true, I can't imagine how quickly they could possibly force them to move though.
June 24, 200915 yr I was told 3CDC has been talking with the Drop-Inn Center for a while about relocation. While I wasn't privy to the details, I assume this is a result of those discussions. Hopefully the relocation isn't just a few blocks away to a different part of OTR or the West End. City officials <b>are buying a new building</b> to house the social services agency due to concerns about student safety, but workers at the shelter said they don't want to move.
June 24, 200915 yr Nice. The city can't force them to move, but the Drop Inn Center has constantly been difficult to work with and bitter (to say the least), as well as generally running a sub-par establishment. Offering some incentive to move is fine by me. https://www.usgbc.org/ShowFile.aspx?DocumentID=5270 That is a competition for architecture students to re-design the Drop Inn Center. I was very, very tempted to either submit a design for something else on it's location, or re-locate it somewhere else. I'd be kicked out for breaking the rules, but I think people would get the message :evil:
June 24, 200915 yr I just was at a OTR safety sector meeting with CPD, and it was news to them and everyone else in the room. This really seemed to come out of left field, which has me worried.
June 25, 200915 yr I can't imagine it would be located outside of the basin, but there are plenty of other places that would be much preferable to where it is now.
June 25, 200915 yr ^ It's the original Hudepohl brewery bottling building. I've heard that numerous times over the years as well. I think part of that stems from the Drop-Inn Center's transitional housing that was moved to the buildings across the street a year or so ago. That would be the kind of move that doesn't help anything.
June 25, 200915 yr ^ The only move that would help would be to numerous neighberhood locations that had a capcity of about 20 individuals each. However politically incorrect it may be to say it, services like those offered by the Drop Inn Center have a NIMBY effect, so that would be extremely difficult to ever pull off.
June 25, 200915 yr Relocating the Drop Inn Center Authored by Sherman Cahal on June 25, 2009 at UrbanUp The City of Cincinnati has given the Drop Inn Center an ultimatum: move to a new facility being purchased by the city or lose city funding. The Drop Inn Center, located at the corner of 12th and Elm streets in Over-the-Rhine, is within close proximity to the nearly-complete School for the Creative and Performing Arts and along the proposed Cincinnati Streetcar loop. The new location has been rumored to be the former Nu Blend facility at 40 East McMicken. Workers at the Drop Inn Center have already made a semi-public statement, stating that they "will not be moved" although they did not understand or comment on the implications of losing city funding would have on the shelter's operations. Drop Inn, the largest homeless refuge for the city, serves over 2,700 annually, according to its statistics. The web-site does not mention funding and cost breakdowns, repeat visits and other detailed data, and repeated calls to Drop Inn were not acknowledged and conveyed no additional information. In other words, there is little accountability for the success rate that the Drop Inn has had, or the effect it bears upon Over-the-Rhine and Cincinnati on the whole. According to the Cincinnati Police Department and various police officers who work the beat in the vicinity of Washington Park, the social service conglomeration is within an area of Over-the-Rhine that has seen no visible improvements in crime since the 2001 riots. According to the National Coalition for the Homeless, 16% of the general homeless population have a mental illness, rising to 22% for African-American's, however, the California Psychiatric Association estimates that up to 40% of the homeless have a mental disorder, and that many suffer from potentially violent tendencies. The potential for altercations and crime, especially around young children at the upcoming school, has pitted the city against the homeless coalition. One side cites the safety of the children and general public, while the other clamors for additional support and monies for treatment and housing. Click on the link above for the remainder of the article.
June 25, 200915 yr The new location has been rumored to be the former Nu Blend facility at 40 East McMicken. By a highly unreliable source I might add!!! The school situation may prevent it from going to Nu Blend. Rothenburg is still a school. Vine St. Elem. and isn't there a small school near the Franciscans? It may not be viable. There would also be fierce opposition from Pendleton, Prospect Hill, Mulberry/McMicken, the Wade's and on and on. The lack of consulting with these various groups if it is indeed Nu Blend would be surprising and a recipe for an all out war with council.
June 25, 200915 yr No doubt council will also face a petition from COAST....our politicians have been rendered useless by groups that can't win seats on council...
June 25, 200915 yr I think we may have the same source. I loosely referenced the post here on UO regarding the Nu Blend property, but received a similar tip from someone who works at the CPD. I am not fond of the relocation location, and my personal preferences is for it to be relocated entirely west -- to Queensgate.
June 25, 200915 yr I think we may have the same source. No offense, but I doubt it. I threw that out there as a possible location that has been discussed for years but at the same time I am not confident that this is the site that has been chosen. Nor do I wish this to get out there as some sort of forgone conclusion that causes people to make hasty decisions about the immediate area.
June 28, 200915 yr I am pretty sure NuBlend is not the proposed site. Think of a site already government controlled, already used/approved for transient housing. That narrows it to 2 sites IMO.
June 28, 200915 yr I am pretty sure NuBlend is not the proposed site. Think of a site already government controlled, already used/approved for transient housing. That narrows it to 2 sites IMO. Riddle me this...
June 29, 200915 yr I am not saying the DIC will move. They want to stay, and OTR is their home, but I noticed one Federal Agency that houses people a few blocks away has secured funding (via Mallory) for a move: http://brown.senate.gov/newsroom/press_releases/release/?id=1d07ff4b-43c4-4dac-b0fe-0e23ff5e6710
July 13, 200915 yr Washington Park redo delayed By Lisa Bernard-Kuhn, Cincinnati Enquirer, July 10, 2009 Multi-million dollar visions continue to unfold for the renovation of historic Washington Park in Over-the-Rhine, but the project's timeline is being pushed back while Cincinnati Center City Development Corp. works to secure financing to cover the estimated $38 million price tag.
August 5, 200915 yr SCPA discussions have been moved into their own thread that can be found here: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,19867.0.html
September 10, 200915 yr Report critical of OTR rehab center By Eileen Kelley, Cincinnati Enquirer, September 10, 2009 At least six offenders living in an Over-the-Rhine halfway house that had been home to accused serial killer Anthony Kirkland were able to roam the streets in the middle of the night after bribing a staff member of the Pogue Center to let them out, a state report issued Thursday revealed. The 101-bed halfway house is home to formerly incarcerated sex offenders, killers and drug dealers among others. It has been under the eye of the state since it was revealed the center violated its policies when it kicked Kirkland to the curb after he started a fight in late February. Within days of beings let go, Kirkland embarked on a crime spree that ended on March 8 when police arrested him near the dead body of 13-year-old Esme Kenney, prosecutors and police say. The local parole authority was not notified that Kirkland was a free man until three days after the fact.
September 11, 200915 yr Music Hall renovation plan in works By Janelle Gelfand • [email protected] • September 11, 2009 http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090911/ENT03/909120337/Music+Hall+renovation+plan+in+works
September 12, 200915 yr ^It's unfortunate that, of the possible temporary relocation options of the ballet and orchestra, the Emery Theatre isn't in the cards. Of course, we don't know where the money would come from, but it would be a great spearhead for the project.
September 12, 200915 yr I'm surprised they wouldn't try to delay the closure until after the World Choir Games. You'd think we'd want to show off our Music Hall to all the conventioneers in town.
September 12, 200915 yr Yeah it seems to me that they should renovate the Emery before they start on Music Hall. It makes sense to have a theatre that is more conducive to music for the Opera and Symphony rather than putting them in the Aronoff and trying to schedule events around the ballet and broadway shows. Having the Emery ready to go for the World Choir Games would be a huge boost and make for a much better event. It also seems to me that using the Emery for the Ballet and symphony exclusively would help offset the 3 million dollar renovation cost. While 3 million is a lot of money it seems to be a reasonable amount to raise.
January 10, 201015 yr See the following two posts for other Music Hall articles. Music Hall renovation: Who's in charge? By Janelle Gelfand, Cincinnati Enquirer, January 10, 2010 After more than four years of trying to hammer out a plan to renovate Music Hall, some members of the group working on the plan say they have one. Or do they? With the goal of launching construction just 16 months away, no one knows exactly what the plans are. A project leader has not been announced. A fundraising consultant has been hired - but no one knows what it will cost or how it will be funded - even though the price tag could go as high as $100 million.
January 10, 201015 yr What's in store for Music Hall Cincinnati Enquirer, January 10, 2010 New seating for the main floor, with wider aisles and fewer obstructed seats, and relocated boxes. New seating, new steps and required re-raking (changing the slope) of the balconies. -- Music Hall timeline: 1876-2010 Cincinnati Enquirer, January 10, 2010 1876: Cincinnati architect Samuel Hannaford gets the contract to build Music Hall, which will cost $446,000 1877: Music Hall Organ Association is formed to oversee the building of America's largest organ by G.G. Hook and Hastings, at an original cost of $32,000
February 17, 201015 yr I know people are regularly talking about a $32000000 renovation of Washington Park. Is there a time line for this and where will the funding come from? Also don't know if this is the correct thread but is the drop inn being relocated?
February 17, 201015 yr The start of the reconstruction of Washington Park has been pushed back a few times. Currently the plan is to start construction on the parking garage in a few months, and have the park completed by fall 2011 (18 months of construction). But I think there is still a funding gap, so it may get pushed back again. There are no plans for the Drop Inn Center to relocate.
February 17, 201015 yr It better not. If the World Choir Games comes and the park is ripped to shreads, I'll be pissed.
February 19, 201015 yr i can't imagine the school opening and the city allowing the daytime tent city to keep going like it is.
May 9, 201015 yr Architect named for $100 million Music Hall renovation By Janelle Gelfand, Cincinnati Enquirer, May 7, 2010 Music Hall has a design architect to lead what is now estimated to be a $100 million renovation project of the Over-the-Rhine landmark. The Music Hall Revitalization Company announced today Friday that Polshek Partnership Architects of New York will guide the hall’s first major renovation in four decades. And, at the request of the architect, the construction phase has been pushed back a year. Construction will begin during the 2012-13 season, with the goal of completion by fall of 2013.
May 12, 201015 yr New renderings, details released on $46M Washington Park renovation By Randy A. Simes, UrbanCincy | May 3, 2010 http://www.urbancincy.com/2010/05/new-renderings-details-released-on-46m-washington-park-renovation/ A $46.2 million renovation and expansion of Washington Park is shaping up as one of those transformational projects that help push a neighborhood on the rebound even further. Throughout the first decade of the 21st Century, Cincinnati has seen just this happen with the renovation of Fountain Square downtown. Now as Over-the-Rhine continues to open new residences and businesses, projects like the Cincinnati Streetcar and the renovation and expansion of Washington Park may finally push the long-troubled neighborhood into wide-reaching prosperity. The Washington Park project will include a $21.6 million, two-level underground parking garage that will lie beneath a 2-acre expansion of the park to 14th Street. The completed 500-space underground parking garage will mirror designs often found in dense European cities and that found at Fountain Square in downtown Cincinnati where an underground garage is integrated underneath the public space. One of the major sticking points with the overall project has circled around the financing to make it happen. At the Cincinnati Center City Development Corporation’s (3CDC) OTR Work Group meeting last week, officials secured nearly $21 million of the total $46.2 million needed to complete the project, with the remaining $25.2 million identified and pending approval. The renovation of Washington Park will also create a central gathering space directly across the street from Music Hall’s main entrance on Elm Street called the Music Hall Plaza. Music Hall Plaza will then flow directly east into a newly created civic lawn space that will cover roughly the size of a football field. On the south side of the Civic Lawn a new water feature will be created that will lead all the way to the park’s historic bandstand. The historic bandstand centrally located in Washington Park will be restored and “modernized for contemporary use” according to officials at 3CDC. Those enhancements will include audio/visual upgrades and the addition of a dramatic new lighting canopy encompassing the area surrounding the bandstand. One of the more anticipated features of the newly renovated Washington Park is a roughly 1/4-acre dog park to be located immediately west of the historic bandstand along Elm Street. The dog park will add a second dog park to Cincinnati’s under-served urban core that has been experiencing tremendous population growth over recent years in both people and dogs. Officials are finalizing the financing components and designs now and hope to begin construction work by summer 2010. Should construction begin at that point, a fall 2011 completion date is targeted. See 6 full-size renderings here: http://www.urbancincy.com/2010/05/new-renderings-details-released-on-46m-washington-park-renovation/
May 12, 201015 yr New renderings, details released on $46M Washington Park renovation By Randy A. Simes, UrbanCincy | May 3, 2010 http://www.urbancincy.com/2010/05/new-renderings-details-released-on-46m-washington-park-renovation/ That diagram of the park's fountain makes no sense to me. Is there a glossary of water fountain terms online somewhere. Specifically I'm wondering about "Water Jet Rooms" and the "Interactive Water Runnel"
May 13, 201015 yr I think those are ad hoc terms for the water playground areas. "Runnel" sounds like a mix between "run" and "tunnel" -- a water tunnel for kids to run through, perhaps? I might be off base, but that's what I was thinking.
May 13, 201015 yr The water jet rooms look to be sections where water shoots out of the ground for kids to play on
May 13, 201015 yr New renderings, details released on $46M Washington Park renovation By Randy A. Simes, UrbanCincy | May 3, 2010 http://www.urbancincy.com/2010/05/new-renderings-details-released-on-46m-washington-park-renovation/ That diagram of the park's fountain makes no sense to me. Is there a glossary of water fountain terms online somewhere. Specifically I'm wondering about "Water Jet Rooms" and the "Interactive Water Runnel" It's just a sprayground! Build random water gadgets, add children, profit. A runnel is just a small course of water, like a small stream. A water jet room is just an area where vertical jets of water periodically or continuously enclose a small space. And you know the bums won't be sleeping on it.
May 13, 201015 yr Stephen Leeper from 3CDC gave a detailed presentation at our Downtown Residents Council meeting this past Tuesday on the plan for Washington Park. While he did go a bit long on time, it was interesting to hear his take on everything from the efforts to salvage the old growth trees, how the northern parking lot would be designed (including the reasons why it is on the northern end), the details on the dog park, and how the stage area would be set up to handle events. It seems like they have done some fantastic research on how projects like this should be done. I am, however, a bit skeptical on the claim that they would be done by the World Choir games. "Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago." - Warren Buffett
May 13, 201015 yr ^The primary hold up has been financing, and the most recent report shows that they have sources of money secured, or pending approval, that will cover all of the project's costs. If they get that finalized soon, then maybe they can get it done by the World Choir Games.
May 13, 201015 yr ^The primary hold up has been financing, and the most recent report shows that they have sources of money secured, or pending approval, that will cover all of the project's costs. If they get that finalized soon, then maybe they can get it done by the World Choir Games. I sincerely hope you are right. From the presentation it appeared as though this was a major overhaul of the park with an underground garage that hasn't even seen any digging yet. That coupled with some outstanding questions on whether the park needed to stay partially open during construction made me wonder. Then again, I have no development experience, and I was pleasantly surprised when Queen City Square came up as quick as it did. "Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago." - Warren Buffett
May 13, 201015 yr ^The primary hold up has been financing, and the most recent report shows that they have sources of money secured, or pending approval, that will cover all of the project's costs. If they get that finalized soon, then maybe they can get it done by the World Choir Games. I sincerely hope you are right. From the presentation it appeared as though this was a major overhaul of the park with an underground garage that hasn't even seen any digging yet. That coupled with some outstanding questions on whether the park needed to stay partially open during construction made me wonder. Then again, I have no development experience, and I was pleasantly surprised when Queen City Square came up as quick as it did. Please Dear God tell me that the park will not remain open during construction.
May 13, 201015 yr "Please Dear God tell me that the park will not remain open during construction. " I'm with you, but I guess there were members of the community that were digging their heels in on this. I just hope it ends up being just a few people who are ultimately outvoted by the community as a whole. "Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago." - Warren Buffett
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