January 14, 200817 yr Thanks, that makes sense. If for every 668 Euclid we get something like this... I wonder when we'll reach a point of there actually being net progress on Euclid :(. From Euclid Ave, UH looks more and more like a turf farm these days than it does a hospital.
January 14, 200817 yr Here's to put my pictures in better perspective for everyone. The bottom right are the old dormitories (what is being torn down). As you can see, it is being replaced with a parking garage and open field for now. EDIT: And expanded emergency room! (most important probably...) Here is the graphic:
January 14, 200817 yr FYI, the Cancer Hospital is on this week's University Circle Design District agenda. I have nothing to add that hasn't already been said here. I would have loved to see these buildings reused in some way, but I'm at a loss for how they could've done it. I'm admittedly out of the loop on this one.
January 14, 200817 yr My wife did some rotations at the UH emergency room and said it was very very small, extremely out-dated.
January 14, 200817 yr so, when she stopped rotating, these very very small rooms made her dizziness that much worse?
January 14, 200817 yr People seem to be in some strange moods today! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 14, 200817 yr so, when she stopped rotating, these very very small rooms made her dizziness that much worse? Yes. Oh, you can keep having fun mocking the medical vernacular.
January 14, 200817 yr Thanks MurrayHill for reposting that graphic. I am endlessly amazed by the insatiable appetite for parking that hospitals have. I guess this new garage will be buried mostly in the interior of UH's campus, but I'm surprised they're using it to frame their grand entry drive thingy that leads to the tall part of the hospital complex from Euclid (using technical terms here). If anyone makes it to the design review, please report back! Here's a related question in case anyone knows- a mutli-parter: Is the fencing around the southwest corner of Euclid and the grand entry drive thingy still up? Why was it put up in the first place? I thought that area was already just landscaping, and it doesn't appear needed for the parking garage. so, when she stopped rotating, these very very small rooms made her dizziness that much worse? Ouch.
January 15, 200817 yr ^Think of the parking large hospitals need though. Not only do you have tons of people working there, but alot of people are visiting patients there. By standard, you could almost double the sqare footage parking standards when designing layout. It really is like that in all cities.
January 16, 200817 yr It is interesting that both the Clinic and UH will have their main entry boulevards/allees lined with parking structures. Not sure how that makes sense, but whatever. I haven't been by Euclid in front of UH in over a week, so I don't know about the construction fencing, but I would assume that it will be up for the duration of the demolition of both the nurse's dorms and Hanna Pavilion. These two buildings will be demoed to make room for the emergency center and parking garage. Club Isabella was demoed last year to make room for the Cancer Hospital and the Cleveland Hearing & Speech Center will ideally relocated to its new building at E. 117th & Euclid in time for the opening of the Cancer Hospital.
January 16, 200817 yr CC did line it's parking garage along the allee with office space, so that helps. I wonder if UH will do the same.
January 16, 200817 yr ^God let's hope they do something with it. I had to stop letting myself look at photos of those nursing dorms- it's like watching an Ivy League campus get knocked down. UH had a really good thing going there with those and the group of buildings fronting Adelbert. Not really criticizing them, just lamenting. I haven't been by Euclid in front of UH in over a week, so I don't know about the construction fencing, but I would assume that it will be up for the duration of the demolition of both the nurse's dorms and Hanna Pavilion. These two buildings will be demoed to make room for the emergency center and parking garage. It's been a while for me too, but the google.maps satellite photo jogged my memory-I'm talking about the big, long-empty area northwest of Hannah. Actually, maybe it's all being used now for demolition staging...a whole lot of demolition staging...which is what you're probably trying to tell me. I guess if you've got it, use it. A glance at the slightly older birdseye view of maps.live satellite photos shows that prior to being fenced off, it was just harmless landscaping, not a demo site itself which confused me.
January 27, 200817 yr Just saw this... Mayday you hit it on the head (see highlighted part) University Hospitals plans a banal looking cancer center Posted by Steven Litt/Plain Dealer Architecture Critic January 24, 2008 16:29PM The design for the new cancer hospital planned for University Hospitals has improved somewhat in recent months, but still looks like it will be an alien presence in University Circle Cheer up, fellow Clevelanders. Amid the gloom over the subprime mortgage meltdown and a looming recession, the city has a lot to look forward to. Whole sections of Euclid Avenue are about to be reborn, thanks in part to the city's burgeoning medical sector and pent-up real estate energy that will be unleashed by completion of the Euclid Corridor transit project later this year. more at http://www.cleveland.com
January 27, 200817 yr Ugh. What an ugly design. I live in Milwaukee and I like to brag to my friends about how Cleveland is such a better city, but how can I brag about something like that? I don't know, but that design is a real let down to me.
January 27, 200817 yr Why have architects forgotten about how to build urban forms that interact with the sidewalk?? I know they haven't, because I see good examples in other cities. But for some reason they dump these dead-at-sidewalk pieces of shit on us in Cleveland and other Midwest cities (other than Chicago) as if we'll accept them because we don't know any better. I hope we stop accepting this crap. Thankfully Steve Litt has raised some awareness, even if the average Clevelander has no idea what the term "street presence" means. Hopefully the planning commission does and puts a stop to this BS. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 28, 200817 yr Attended a marathon 3+ hour UC Design Review meeting yesterday morning - here's my unofficial, day old notes from memory: 1.) Landscape plan for an 'Urban Park' on Euclid avenue stretching from the Allen Medical Memorial Library to their new boulevard main entrance into Lerner Tower. Seems like a pretty good design for greenspace (not just an open lawn but with plenty of paths, trees, shrubbery, benches) and no discussion at all of anything else going there. Also, I think the healing garden for the cancer hospital is going to be awesome - really a terrific space for the patients. The major conversation from the board was about the traffic flow patterns of the entire new master plan - major concerns from Margaret Carney about pedestrian and vehicular traffic from Adelbert Road. 2.) Final approval for the new Cancer Hospital - basically the architect came back with a few minor adjustments and said that he was done making changes. I still feel that the building, although unique, is just a random modern building plopped down onto Euclid Avenue. It would look great at 271/Chagrin, too. 3.) Final approval for the Center for Emergency Medicine - simple, basic one story building (with some mechanical on top that was nicely covered) that I think is a lot nicer than that cancer hospital - it does a bit more with its surroundings yet at the same time stands on its own a bit. Interesting mix of materials (couldn't tell you exactly what they are as I'm not an expert), but some stone, some aluminum looking metal, and some lighter white-ish type as well. Once again, some minor suggestions from the board, but major concerns were still traffic flow & how it will all work with the master plan and the parking garage that is still under review. I think that's it, although there could've been more.
March 28, 200817 yr Attended a marathon 3+ hour UC Design Review meeting yesterday morning - here's my unofficial, day old notes from memory: 1.) Landscape plan for an 'Urban Park' on Euclid avenue stretching from the Allen Medical Memorial Library to their new boulevard main entrance into Lerner Tower. Seems like a pretty good design for greenspace (not just an open lawn but with plenty of paths, trees, shrubbery, benches) and no discussion at all of anything else going there. Also, I think the healing garden for the cancer hospital is going to be awesome - really a terrific space for the patients. The major conversation from the board was about the traffic flow patterns of the entire new master plan - major concerns from Margaret Carney about pedestrian and vehicular traffic from Adelbert Road. 2.) Final approval for the new Cancer Hospital - basically the architect came back with a few minor adjustments and said that he was done making changes. I still feel that the building, although unique, is just a random modern building plopped down onto Euclid Avenue. It would look great at 271/Chagrin, too. 3.) Final approval for the Center for Emergency Medicine - simple, basic one story building (with some mechanical on top that was nicely covered) that I think is a lot nicer than that cancer hospital - it does a bit more with its surroundings yet at the same time stands on its own a bit. Interesting mix of materials (couldn't tell you exactly what they are as I'm not an expert), but some stone, some aluminum looking metal, and some lighter white-ish type as well. Once again, some minor suggestions from the board, but major concerns were still traffic flow & how it will all work with the master plan and the parking garage that is still under review. I think that's it, although there could've been more. Thanks for the run-down! I'm still peeved by the way the cancer center sticks it's @ss out on Euclid, but happy to hear thr healing garden will be nice. Still, it's frustrating that just when the eastern parts of Euclid in UC look like they'll be coming together, the UH frontage is going to be a suburban mess for the foreseeable future.
March 31, 200817 yr ^Just for clarification, the "urban park" is just temporary program, right? UH plans to build on the land eventually, no? I give UH huge props for this- the Clinic would have paved and striped that land faster than you can say "storm runoff". But does anyone (Jeffrey T?) know if the stupid little lawn between the Cancer Center and Euclid that showed up in the renderings in Litt's blog were still there in the revised/final design?
March 31, 200817 yr Strap, your first question was brought up at the Planning Commission on Friday. The response was that yes, this could be a building site down the road, but there are no plans at present. UH wants to build a beautiful, usable space that could be there for a while if need be. In regard to your second question, the landscaping in front of the Cancer Hospital has not been resolved yet.
March 31, 200817 yr StrapHanger, I presume you are referring to the stretch of grass here: http://blog.cleveland.com/architecture/2008/01/_cheer_up_fellow_clevelanders.html From what I could tell from the renderings, the cancer hospital is not built directly up the sidewalk, but it is not as far away as it seems in that image - maybe enough for a line of trees and shrubs, but certainly not a front lawn. Also, from what I gathered, the 'urban park' is long term - like Map Boy points out, they believe that it'll serve a function to their patients and residents walking through, instead of just planting grass to make the campus 'green'... EDIT - and Map Boy has better information than I do :-)
March 31, 200817 yr Thanks, guys for the info! StrapHanger, I presume you are referring to the stretch of grass here: http://blog.cleveland.com/architecture/2008/01/_cheer_up_fellow_clevelanders.html From what I could tell from the renderings, the cancer hospital is not built directly up the sidewalk, but it is not as far away as it seems in that image - maybe enough for a line of trees and shrubs, but certainly not a front lawn. Yup, that's exactly what I was referring to. I guess a little landscape strip isn't so bad...but still seems like a little imagination could have made the Euclid edge a lot better at sidewalk level for not a lot of $.
April 2, 200817 yr The lobbying firm I work for represents University Hospital and in my intern office I have about 50 million hard hats with the UH Logo on it we are about to hand out to State Legislators to ask for some more incentives for this project. Let me just say that the people from UH are very pleased with the progress we have made for them at this point. I have got to upload a picture with these legislators in hard hats, it is priceless.
April 2, 200817 yr Yeah UH is our client for all things with regards to lobbying in Ohio it just so happens that this is their main concern as far as lobbying is concerend at this point. One thing that bodes well for the project is the team that is from UH that works with us to achieve their goals are TOP NOTCH people. I meet alot of well qualified people etc. but the people UH has on board are really spectacular and awesome people. From a personal and work related standpoint I hope they get everything they want and are successfull. Switching gears, does anyone have pictures and updates from the Museum of Art? That is the one project in Cleveland that I miss the most being down here in Columbus for school etc. Let me know Clevelanders!
May 19, 200817 yr Patients help design Cancer Hospital at University Hospitals Case Medical Center Posted by Angela Townsend May 18, 2008 13:05PM Categories: Impact Courtesy University Hospitals Case Medical Center About UH's new Cancer Hospital The $232 million, 10-story, 375,000-square-foot, free-standing Cancer Hospital will triple the space currently dedicated for cancer services.
May 19, 200817 yr It's the type of design that will mesh with the direction UC is taking. Better there than the CBD.
July 28, 200816 yr wait, is those "two temporary building", the two trailers? Getting rid of those would be a big architectural loss for the neighborhood... they're like a little slice of trailer park heaven right there in big city Cleveland.
July 28, 200816 yr wait, is those "two temporary building", the two trailers? Getting rid of those would be a big architectural loss for the neighborhood... they're like a little slice of trailer park heaven right there in big city Cleveland. will the preservationists fight for the trailers as they did for the Cozad house? I say they are of equal importance.
July 28, 200816 yr That was definitely the only thing shown way back when this graphic was printed. And I thought people were reporting long term hotel plans for Euclid Ave. near the old nurses dorm site. But I guess things have changed. Image at: http://www.cleveland.com/news/wide/uh0118.jpg
July 28, 200816 yr Are they really gonna put a new parking structure facing Euclid behind the huge grass/tree lawn? That is an opportunity to have another grand-looking entrance to the hospitals, and they're gonna put a garage there?????
July 28, 200816 yr Ideally they would put a hotel on the lawn in front of the garage. That was the plan, and I would rather see that than a new hotel on the parking lot behind the University East building.
July 29, 200816 yr The plans don't look exactly like that anymore, but the parking garage will still go in that vicinity. The emergency department will be just west of it and the lawn in front will be temporary surface parking during construction and a large park space once the new garage opens. Potentially, it could be developed if the hospital needs new facilities (which they will).
July 29, 200816 yr they've been presented at public meetings, but this was available based on a quick search: http://www.uhhospitals.org/tabid/1291/Default.aspx
July 29, 200816 yr Thank you. I see the garage is making up a substantial portion of their grand entranceway. Do you know if they are going to line the garage with offices, a la the Cleveland Clinic?
July 29, 200816 yr ^Who knows if it means anything, but the rendering looks like it's 100% garage but with some sort of screen or other facade element facing the entry drive. http://www.uhhospitals.org/tabid/1291/Default.aspx
September 4, 200816 yr Kelvin and Eleanor Smith Foundation gives $2 million for UH emergency center Posted by Joan Mazzolini September 03, 2008 11:28AM CLEVELAND -- A local foundation gave $2 million for a new emergency medicine center at University Hospitals Case Medical Center. The money is from the Kelvin and Eleanor Smith Foundation, and UH is naming a garden court planned for the $45 million Euclid Avenue center after the foundation. The center is scheduled to open in 2010 and will more than double the space for adult and pediatric emergency services. It will move the emergency department from an awkward and cramped location on the side of the hospital out in front of the institution. "Emergency medicine is of vital importance to the health of this region and we are excited to partner with University Hospitals in their plans to reinvest in this critical service," said Ellen Stirn Mavec, president of The Smith Foundation. more at http://www.cleveland.com
September 16, 200816 yr University Hospitals Breaks Ground On $326M Transformation Project Includes New Cancer Hospital, Neonatal ICU Unit POSTED: 3:25 pm EDT September 16, 2008 UPDATED: 3:42 pm EDT September 16, 2008 CLEVELAND -- Some big changes are coming to University Hospitals of Cleveland. The hospital is calling it the biggest campus transformation in its 142-year history, and it involves a lot of construction and a lot of money. On Tuesday, groundbreaking took place for the project, which will include a new cancer hospital, emergency medicine center and a neonatal intensive care unit. All of the building should be complete by the end of 2010. Among other things, the ceremonial groundbreaking acknowledged the efforts to raise the $326 million necessary for the transformation. "Well, today you're not going to see a miraculous change, but I think what you can say is over the next two years, what is going to happen on this campus is miraculous," said University Hospitals President Dr. Fred Rothstein. At the height of construction, the project is expected to create more than 5,000 jobs. UH anticipates more than 1,200 new hospital-based jobs will also be created. http://www.newsnet5.com/health/17488260/detail.html
September 17, 200816 yr Steven Litt's take: http://blog.cleveland.com/architecture/2008/09/university_hospitals_new_proje.html#more
September 17, 200816 yr I absolutely loved his description of the UH logo... "This could require a proliferation of signs emblazoned with the symbolically confusing UH logo, which looks like a wine glass filled with red cough syrup, with a curved swizzle stick or half a parenthesis stuck on one side and three white stripes on the other. "
September 17, 200816 yr Who is on the design review board in the city? Just curious .. I mean, are there people that actually know stuff about architecture/design/urban planning?
September 17, 200816 yr See the following link for a list of Design Review Committee members.... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drchome.htm "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 17, 200816 yr It also made it through U-circle design review, and that has several archetects on it.
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