February 27, 20196 yr 4 minutes ago, KJP said: Cool! I'm hearing that the Cove United Methodist Church may be next to succumb to new housing on Lake Avenue. The gas station is just 6 tenths of an acre. The church site is comparatively "massive" for this part of Lakewood -- 1.765 acres. Bring it on. We need more inventory in Lakewood.
February 27, 20196 yr 3 minutes ago, freefourur said: Bring it on. We need more inventory in Lakewood. Big time. A Cuyahoga County housing study found that Lakewood has lost more than 1,700 housing units since the 1980s due to demolitions of housing and conversions of rental doubles into single-family, for-sale homes. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 27, 20196 yr 32 minutes ago, freefourur said: Bring it on. We need more inventory in Lakewood. Noooo! Too much traffic on Detroit Ave hahahhaha
February 27, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, surfohio said: Noooo! Too much traffic on Detroit Ave hahahhaha It will take me 3 extra minutes to get home. We can't provide housing for people if it inconveniences me in the slightest.
February 27, 20196 yr 24 minutes ago, freefourur said: It will take me 3 extra minutes to get home. We can't provide housing for people if it inconveniences me in the slightest. We have to stay away from the Lakewood FB pages. You would think more housing is bringing the Apocalypse! You cannot reason with people.
February 27, 20196 yr Big Development Day for Lakewood! This is a very big deal... https://www.cleveland.com/business/2019/02/former-lakewood-car-dealership-to-become-apartments-commercial-space.html
February 27, 20196 yr Solove has a contract to buy this land, but I was told he would pursue this development only if the Spitzer site development fell through. If he's serious about the Barry Buick site, I would hope that he adds some more ground-floor retail around here, like a small market/cafe. I looked into buying a condo in the so-called "Armed Forces" building next door, but my wife was concerned about the lack of street life in the area. Although that could be enhanced by this development, depending on how it is designed. BTW, a couple of blocks west is the now-city-owned Trinity Lutheran Church parcels (3 of them) which includes the storefronts on the north side of Detroit between Hall and Westlake avenues. That site measures 0.73 acres. Should be able to get a decent, mixed-use apartment building in there. Then there's the 1.14-acre Lube Stop property, which will hopefully get developed with something more suitable for a pedestrian-oriented business corridor. Edited February 27, 20196 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 27, 20196 yr 42 minutes ago, KJP said: Solove has a contract to buy this land, but I was told he would pursue this development only if the Spitzer site development fell through. If he's serious about the Barry Buick site, I would hope that he adds some more ground-floor retail around here, like a small market/cafe. I looked into buying a condo in the so-called "Armed Forces" building next door, but my wife was concerned about the lack of street life in the area. Although that could be enhanced by this development, depending on how it is designed. BTW, a couple of blocks west is the now-city-owned Trinity Lutheran Church parcels (3 of them) which includes the storefronts on the north side of Detroit between Hall and Westlake avenues. That site measures 0.73 acres. Should be able to get a decent, mixed-use apartment building in there. Then there's the 1.14-acre Lube Stop property, which will hopefully get developed with something more suitable for a pedestrian-oriented business corridor. I always envisioned the Lube Stop property and the vacant lot adjacent to it being redeveloped into a nice mixed use building. The Lube Stop parcel goes back deep s there's enough parking. The city seems to be going ahead with the beer garden/ food truck plan though.
February 27, 20196 yr Crain's article on the Barry's Buick redevelopment: https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/developer-plans-second-lakewood-project Quote Developer plans second Lakewood project STAN BULLARD The Jerome Solove Development Inc. firm of Columbus envisions a project resembling these three-story buildings on the 16000 block of Detroit Avenue in Lakewood. Jerome Solove Development Inc., a Columbus-based real estate firm, plans to undertake a second major real estate development on Detroit Avenue in Lakewood, this time targeting the former Steve Barry Buick car dealership site on the suburb's western end. JSDI on Wednesday, Feb. 27, announced plans to add two mid-rise buildings with a total of 158 apartments and 5,000 square feet of commercial space in the project. It would encompass four parcels formerly occupied by the car dealer to create a 2.7-acre site on both sides of Detroit between Rosewood and Cranford avenues. A rendering shows three-story buildings on the Barry sites. ...
March 5, 20196 yr On 3/3/2019 at 4:13 PM, Cleburger said: Detroit Ave is ripe to bring back a street car! Funny im doing a project for school to do just that.. I was going to start sharing my thoughts and progress on here to get feedback..
March 5, 20196 yr a street car running down detroit from Rocky River thru downtown and then going down Euclid Ave to the UC would be fantastic!
March 5, 20196 yr And long! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 5, 20196 yr I wonder about electrified trolleys as opposed to street cars. I think only Dayton does this in Ohio. I wonder if there is a best practice or maybe best case scenario for using electrified trolleys.
March 6, 20196 yr 16 hours ago, mack34 said: a street car running down detroit from Rocky River thru downtown and then going down Euclid Ave to the UC would be fantastic! To change the infrastructure of Euclid Ave a 2nd time after a multi $M upgrade with bus lanes, would be silly. However I could see streetcars becoming a option if they go down Superior but make way to Chester down to UC. Having two conflicting modes of transit on the same road would just be frustrating and without a doubt a little more dangerous.
March 6, 20196 yr The 26 could be greatly improved with dedicated lanes wherever possible and off board fare payment. Although RTA seems to have screwed the pooch on being able to administer POP. Although, I wonder if light rail of heavy rail is possible on the existing rail line coming through Lakewood. Perhaps a branch of the red line could run through there. Edited March 6, 20196 yr by freefourur
March 6, 20196 yr Sadly I don't see any of these grandiose plans happening in Lakewood. When I mentioned the streetcar, I was actually thinking something in Lakewood only, funded through private and public entities. Much like the Delmar Loop trolley in St Louis. http://www.looptrolley.com Maybe a "Lakewood Loop" makes sense. There could be a loop around Clifton and Detroit, and an opposing loop around Madison and Detroit (with a connection to the Red Line at W117th.) Edited March 6, 20196 yr by Cleburger
March 6, 20196 yr It would be a blast from the past. The Cleveland Transit System proposed in 1944 finishing the Van Sweringen's rapid transit line from Cleveland Union Terminal west along the current route of the Red Line to Madison West 117th. The existing streetcars on Clifton, Detroit and Madison would switch on to the rapid transit line and run downtown. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 20, 20196 yr So apparently the Phantasy complex is not only still open, but it’s getting renovated and hosting a new record store? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2019/03/black-market-record-store-opening-at-new-lakewood-location-next-month.html%3foutputType=amp https://www.phantasycleveland.com/
March 20, 20196 yr Wow, a friend of mine went to the Phantasy's closing night. Their marquee has been blank for months. Very interesting. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 20, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, KJP said: Wow, a friend of mine went to the Phantasy's closing night. Their marquee has been blank for months. Very interesting. If only there was a news source in Lakewood. The only thing I ever hear about anymore is the hospital. And people on FB who are afraid of density and this strange idea that Lakewood has bad traffic.
March 20, 20196 yr I hear ya. My blog article last year on the Phantasy closing got 30,000 hits, so I know there's tremendous reader interest. But that interest isn't matched by local media/advertisers. I'll see what I can find out. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 20, 20196 yr 6 minutes ago, KJP said: I hear ya. My blog article last year on the Phantasy closing got 30,000 hits, so I know there's tremendous reader interest. But that interest isn't matched by local media/advertisers. I'll see what I can find out. FWIW I heard it was purchased by the people that own the Foundry.
March 21, 20196 yr The link provided is a petition to designate an arts and entertainment district on the east end of Detroit Road towards West 117th in the city of Lakewood. This area includes The Five O'Clock Lounge, The Foundry Concert Club, and Phantasy Nightclub complex which includes The Symposium Nightclub and The Chamber. https://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/942/254/365/?fbclid=IwAR2u4sz8ZJvk2CmHkJOUTwtHLhZwsOIqOBJSsqSg9CD9CAsMARcnZdgU-sU
March 23, 20196 yr On 2/9/2019 at 1:57 PM, KJP said: Look for some news about this site soon. It isn't going to be housing.... The latest newsletter from the school district says that Liberty Development has acquired the soon-to-be vacated school board offices on Warren. Liberty is the same developer that built McKinley Place townhomes on the site of McKinley School. It also renovated the historic Union Building, 1836 Euclid Ave. I'm told the old school board offices won't be housing but will instead be a corporate headquarters instead. I don't know for whom. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 23, 20196 yr A realtor friend sent to me these renderings of the homes proposed to be built where the now-closed Lake Avenue Marathon gas station currently stands.... Edited March 23, 20196 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 23, 20196 yr I saw these a few days ago as well, briefly. I am pleasantly surprised by the renderings. I will says that one of the houses is completely out of the setback. So there's going to either be some changes to layout and/or a need for a variance. Edit: make that two homes completely out of the setback. Edited March 23, 20196 yr by KFM44107
March 25, 20196 yr The old Swingos in the Carlyle is under construction and set to open sometime this summer. Another George family venture.
March 30, 20196 yr 8 Story - 275 unit Appartment Building To Tower Over Bunts and Parkwood at Detroit A Columbus developer is trying to get city approval to build a HUGE 8 story building on Detroit between Bunts and Parkwood. It will stick out like a sore thumb in the neighborhood. It will add over 350 cars daily around the Bunts - Detroit intersection. This is important to all Lakewood residents. This mammoth building is a sign of things to come in Lakewood. This developer has already purchased another property and will look for more if he is initially successful with this project. He plans to puts these buildings as close as 12 feet to adjacent single family home properties, towering over the neighborhood and destroying the charm of our fine hometown.. We must take a stand. Once he is successful with the first project your neighborhood may be next. Our Lakewood leaders want listening to us on two occasions. The Planning Commission will meet this Thurs 4-4 at 7pm at city hall auditorium. The Architectural Board meets on Thurs 4-11 at 5:30pm at city hall auditorium. The developer will have designs and renderings of the proposed buildings at these meetings. We have a strong group trying to fight for a reasonable size development but we need more people at these meetings for support. You can speak if you wish but even just numbers at these meetings will help our voices to be heard. This is the first of what may be more huge apartment buildings hovering over our neighborhoods. We need numbers at these meetings. Your neighborhood may be next if he succeeds. PLEASE COME AND HELP US STOP UNCONTROLED DEVELPOEMENT IN OUR LOVELY HOMETOWN. WE NEED OUR FELLOW CITIZENS FOR SUPPORT! THANK YOU Pat Neff Parkwood in Lakewood
March 30, 20196 yr "Once he is successful your neighborhood will be next." Oh nooos, there'll be new development all over.
March 30, 20196 yr I'm looking forward to this development, I heard he may also develop the Spitzer property further west on a Detroit which would be welcome!
March 30, 20196 yr I love the riot inciting words used. I will be there in support, though I know there is some legit concern, even from the cities perspective, of the height of the building in comparison to the abutting single family homes. Don't get me wrong, my understanding is a general consensus of approval, but just reworking the building to push the height closer to Detroit. This wouldn't be an issue if the body shop had just sold it's property.
March 30, 20196 yr I’m not sure it’s an accurate representation of the Lakewood populous, but it’s mind boggling the idiotic, and anti build anything new comments any time something comes up in Lakewood. My head wants to explode at times.
March 30, 20196 yr When I read that letter I couldn't help but think of this... (edit: oops, I'll post a link instead of embedding) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFe-p1gbKEc In all seriousness I think it's sad that people will fight against any sort of progress. While this person does have a point about the buildings abutting very close to single-family homes without any sort of setback, to say this building will "destroy the charm" of Lakewood is a bit disingenuous. Lakewood has multi-story buildings all over the place, some much taller than 8 stories. If anything the suburban, car-oriented land uses surrounding the Detroit/Bunts intersection (a GetGo gas station, a Giant Eagle set back by a large parking lot, single-use buildings surrounded by a sea of asphalt, and of course the auto dealerships) are more detrimental to Lakewood's charm than anything. I've always found it ironic how this area of Lakewood is so low-density even though it's practically in the center of town. Edited March 31, 20196 yr by RoabeArt
March 31, 20196 yr On 3/29/2019 at 8:11 PM, X said: "UNCONTROLED DEVELPOEMENT!" Nice appeal to fear throughout. fear mongering at it best.
March 31, 20196 yr In all actuality, the larger scale project would fit better at the Barry Buick site, and vice versa.
April 1, 20196 yr On 3/29/2019 at 8:01 PM, surfohio said: 8 Story - 275 unit Appartment Building To Tower Over Bunts and Parkwood at Detroit A Columbus developer is trying to get city approval to build a HUGE 8 story building on Detroit between Bunts and Parkwood. It will stick out like a sore thumb in the neighborhood. It will add over 350 cars daily around the Bunts - Detroit intersection. This is important to all Lakewood residents. This mammoth building is a sign of things to come in Lakewood. This developer has already purchased another property and will look for more if he is initially successful with this project. He plans to puts these buildings as close as 12 feet to adjacent single family home properties, towering over the neighborhood and destroying the charm of our fine hometown.. We must take a stand. Once he is successful with the first project your neighborhood may be next. Our Lakewood leaders want listening to us on two occasions. The Planning Commission will meet this Thurs 4-4 at 7pm at city hall auditorium. The Architectural Board meets on Thurs 4-11 at 5:30pm at city hall auditorium. The developer will have designs and renderings of the proposed buildings at these meetings. We have a strong group trying to fight for a reasonable size development but we need more people at these meetings for support. You can speak if you wish but even just numbers at these meetings will help our voices to be heard. This is the first of what may be more huge apartment buildings hovering over our neighborhoods. We need numbers at these meetings. Your neighborhood may be next if he succeeds. PLEASE COME AND HELP US STOP UNCONTROLED DEVELPOEMENT IN OUR LOVELY HOMETOWN. WE NEED OUR FELLOW CITIZENS FOR SUPPORT! THANK YOU Pat Neff Parkwood in Lakewood I wanted to attend this meeting but I have a conflict. I'm hoping that some of the YIMBY forumers here can make it and let the pro development voices be heard.
April 1, 20196 yr ^ I agree. We should do a meetup at a meeting all in support. I fear that the NIMBY crowd is always louder and more active. Would be nice if we could fill the room with supporters.
April 4, 20196 yr Signature Health moves from Cleveland to Lakewood location on Detroit Avenue Updated Apr 1, 2019; Posted Apr 1, 2019 By John Benson, special to cleveland.com LAKEWOOD, Ohio -- Currently serving more than 23,000 clients across Northeast Ohio, Signature Health brings a full spectrum of healthcare services to its new Lakewood facility inside the INA Building at 14701 Detroit Ave. “We’re moving because the building of our former West 25th and Detroit Avenue location in Cleveland is being repurposed,” Signature Health Director of Marketing Paul Brickman said. “We also wanted to go further west, and heard nothing but good things about Lakewood, so the move makes a great deal of sense.” The new multi-floor Lakewood location includes 62 employees, with roughly $3.5 million in estimated salary. Brickman said Signature Health plans on expanding to 70 employees over the next year. MORE https://www.cleveland.com/community/2019/04/signature-health-moves-from-cleveland-to-lakewood-location-on-detroit-avenue.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 26, 20196 yr Cool! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 26, 20196 yr It looks like the city of Lakewood won't buy the Faith Presbyterian Church, 12600 Detroit Avenue, but instead will probably buy the Cove United Methodist Church on Lake Avenue for a new senior services facility. They reportedly will reuse the existing church building rather than tear it down and build something new. However, long term, the city may locate a new stormwater retention tank below ground on the property. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 29, 20196 yr Demolition of the old Bob Evans has begun. Making way for a Raising Canes Chicken Finger joint.
May 2, 20196 yr Yesterday, there was a backhoe inside the building, on a two-floor-tall pile of debris. It looked bizarre -- like it was eating the complex from the inside-out. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 2, 20196 yr 30 minutes ago, KJP said: Yesterday, there was a backhoe inside the building, on a two-floor-tall pile of debris. It looked bizarre -- like it was eating the complex from the inside-out. Spoke with an official from Lakewood today. A lot of the holdup is what they're gonna remove from the home and what they're gonna keep. Example the basement slab is at about where they're gonna dig for the parking garage. It should really start going in a few weeks. Expect a fall construction if BZA and Planning go well.
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