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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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On 5/2/2019 at 3:16 PM, KJP said:

Which home?

Wow. I must have been really tired when I posted that. By home I meant the old hospital building substructure. 

On 4/29/2019 at 5:12 PM, marty15 said:

Demolition of the old Bob Evans has begun. Making way for a Raising Canes Chicken Finger joint. 

 

Is this the one by the Get Go on Detroit? Didn't that just open like a year ago? Why did it close so fast and wasn't it new construction?

6 minutes ago, Pugu said:

 

Is this the one by the Get Go on Detroit? Didn't that just open like a year ago? Why did it close so fast and wasn't it new construction?

It was about 5 years old new construction.  I think it just never really took off. There's just too much competition in Lakewood, I think.

i went there 2x and both times there was a wait for tables. this was on weekends. maybe it was slow during the week, but breakfast on weekends it was packed.

I go out to eat in Lakewood and the West Side a lot. Like, 5-6 nights a week. And I went to that Bob Evans just once (for carry out).

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

This shot looks like it could be taken from the inside of any, never updated Gold Coast condo. 

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^ It's the color palette, I think. The art on the walls is pretty bleak. Or maybe that wrinkly dorm couch was a bad choice. 

 

Oh well I think it looks fine on the outside. 

Oh c'mon, it's OK. There isn't even a hint of avocado! ?  I do condo flips and apparently you've not been in an original, non-updated Gold Coast condo. Here's one I'm finishing now that had 1965-vintage kitchen appliances and 1970s everything else...

 

BEFORE

 

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AFTER

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

It also looks like a before and after shot of the kid haha.

2 hours ago, tj111 said:

It also looks like a before and after shot of the kid haha.

 

Hey, a little "flipping" exercise goes a long way in a short time! ?

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

So what good is it to develop new housing in Lakewood if it's going to fall apart so quickly? These are the Rockport Square townhouses built in the mid- to late-2000s. Also notice the decaying facade at the base of the second floor at 12111 Detroit...

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Cheap brick facing does that.

43 minutes ago, X said:

Cheap brick facing does that.

 

Did you also notice the facade in the upper-left of the first photo?

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

1 hour ago, KJP said:

 

Did you also notice the facade in the upper-left of the first photo?

Good lord. And people wonder why construction results in so many lawsuits. 

2 hours ago, surfohio said:

Good lord. And people wonder why construction results in so many lawsuits. 

 

I've never done the new-construction route, but every one of my friends that have end up in long-term fights with the builder over fit and finish.   Craftsmanship is dead here.   We definitely need immigrants.  

Buyers assume there will be no maintenance on a new house, townhome or condo. Even to the extent that when gutters or downspouts become clogged from not being cleaned out for 5 years they think it's a builder/design issue. While this example seems to be partially crappy craftsmanship, these are also 15 years old in many cases, exposed to constant salting during the winter along Detroit Avenue. As a whole this is a recipe for what you're seeing.

  • 2 weeks later...

https://www.cleveland.com/community/2019/05/lakewood-seeks-rfqs-to-transform-old-church-into-detroit-road-economic-development-success-story.html

 

By John Benson, special to cleveland.com

LAKEWOOD, Ohio -- After purchasing the former Trinity Church property on Detroit Road last fall, the city of Lakewood is currently seeking adaptive reuse ideas via request for qualifications (RFQ) from interested businesses and developers. The deadline for responses is July 2.

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

  • 3 weeks later...

@KJP I attempted searching for a post about a project on Madison next to the rental car place by Coutant. I couldn’t find it. There’s a backhoe parked there with fencing around the site. Can’t remember what is going there. 

I don't know what's going on there.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

It's one of the dispensaries. 

  • 1 month later...

2,800 SQ FT?!?!?
That's a lot of livable space. But I'm sure their market studies support that decision.  ?

Not construction news but Campbell's popcorn on Detroit is closing. Too bad as its a kind of shop for Downtown Lakewood. If anyone wants to open a candy/popcorn shop---its the perfect opportunity to jump into that space, you'd have instant customers.

 

"Campbell's Sweets Factory announced today that it will close its Lakewood shop at the corner of Warren and Detroit on Aug. 3 while expanding its focus and offerings at the original location in Ohio City on West 25th St. The downtown location on Superior is unaffected."

 

https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2019/07/17/campbells-sweets-factory-closing-up-shop-in-lakewood-come-august

2 hours ago, Pugu said:

Not construction news but Campbell's popcorn on Detroit is closing. Too bad as its a kind of shop for Downtown Lakewood. If anyone wants to open a candy/popcorn shop---its the perfect opportunity to jump into that space, you'd have instant customers.

 

"Campbell's Sweets Factory announced today that it will close its Lakewood shop at the corner of Warren and Detroit on Aug. 3 while expanding its focus and offerings at the original location in Ohio City on West 25th St. The downtown location on Superior is unaffected."

 

https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2019/07/17/campbells-sweets-factory-closing-up-shop-in-lakewood-come-august

Awwww

I actually talked to the lady at their downtown location on Tuesday.  She said business was strong at the Lakewood store, but the building owner raised the rent on them.  She also mentioned they may be looking to relocate to a smaller storefront somewhere in Lakewood.

  • 2 weeks later...

Hearing that the Solove developments (Spitzer Chrysler and Steve Barry Buick sites) are pretty much a "go" as it pertains to city approvals. The Barry site was never controversial while the Spitzer site is seeing the 8-story building shift east of Parkwood and add ground-floor commercial. In its place, west of Parkwood, surface parking for the development will be provided. That parking lot will be next to Bruce's Automotive owned by George Shaker who refused to sell his property to Solove. The placement of a surface parking lot next to Bruce's is likely to create a placeholder for a future phase that could include the Shaker property. Shaker is not a young man. 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

18 minutes ago, KJP said:

Hearing that the Solove developments (Spitzer Chrysler and Steve Barry Buick sites) are pretty much a "go" as it pertains to city approvals. The Barry site was never controversial while the Spitzer site is seeing the 8-story building shift east of Parkwood and add ground-floor commercial. In its place, west of Parkwood, surface parking for the development will be provided. That parking lot will be next to Bruce's Automotive owned by George Shaker who refused to sell his property to Solove. The placement of a surface parking lot next to Bruce's is likely to create a placeholder for a future phase that could include the Shaker property. Shaker is not a young man. 

I am assuming the Buick site is more realistic to break ground first?

These projects would be great if they traded spots. The more dense 8 story development would be a great opportunity to help develop a greater sense of a Lakewood downtown at the Barry property. It’s sort of disconnected at the Spitzer site.

 

 As well as the current Barry site proposal would seem to be a perfect fit, scale wise, at the Spitzer site. Imo

The Spitzer site is much closer to Lakewood's downtown. There is a high-rise (The Westerly) about three blocks away from the Spitzer site.

Just now, bjk said:

The Spitzer site is much closer to Lakewood's downtown. There is a high-rise (The Westerly) about three blocks away from the Spitzer site.

I live in between the two stated sites you mention. It is a longggggg four blocks, though. Downtown on the east side goes right from taller buildings to suburban setbacks. Going westward, as Marty stated, there really is no break in density. In some regards, he is right about these two buildings switching sites. 

The connectivity of downtown pretty much stops at the Westerly. In between you have Giant Eagle and it’s parking lot fronting Detroit, the new Raising Canes fast food joint, Get Go gas station, Moons convenience store, Bruces automotive, and per KJP’s scoop, another parking lot, THEN an 8 story building. 

 

None of the other parcels/businesses are likely likely going anywhere anytime soon. 

Edited by marty15

13 minutes ago, marty15 said:

The connectivity of downtown pretty much stops at the Westerly. In between you have Giant Eagle and it’s parking lot fronting Detroit, the new Raising Canes fast food joint, Get Go gas station, Moons convenience store, Bruces automotive, and per KJP’s scoop, another parking lot, THEN and 8 story building. 

 

None of the other parcels/businesses are likely likely going anywhere anytime soon. 

Not to mention the street widens too right there.

I apologize if these have already been posted. The Detroit and Parkwood development.

 

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Wow that looks more out of place than the original plan. I can only hope that "phase 2" will make it looks like it belongs there.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I like it provided both the tan and black are brick, and think its great that they plan to have some actual balconies. Looks like it will fit well with the three story apartments over retail across Detroit. The auto shop surrounded by surface parking will definitely be the off man out.

51 minutes ago, KJP said:

Wow that looks more out of place than the original plan. I can only hope that "phase 2" will make it looks like it belongs there.

Im betting the goal is to play the long run, hope the body shops sells out and then complete that stretch the right way. 

Edited by KFM44107

3 hours ago, JSC216 said:

I apologize if these have already been posted. The Detroit and Parkwood development.

 

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That design is great. Has it received city approval?

 

Edited by Mendo

It’s a handsome building, more suited for the Barry location. But whatever. 

Don't get me wrong. I love the design of the building. I just think it looks....lonely. 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

3 hours ago, KJP said:

Don't get me wrong. I love the design of the building. I just think it looks....lonely. 

I agree, but it's a good start. I'd rather have one well done building than a half hazard mish mash trying to use the odd space given due to the car repair shop not selling. 

Edited by KFM44107
Grammar Mistake. I need to stop responding on my phone.

9 hours ago, Mendo said:

 

That design is great. Has it received city approval?

 

 

Not yet. But my understanding is that it probably will, barring any last-minute surprises. 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

That is a TON of parking.

2 minutes ago, w28th said:

That is a TON of parking.

It already is a TON of parking in its current form. But like I said above, leave it a parking lot until you can develop it the right way. 

Lakewood Planning Commission gives Columbus-based developer approval for Detroit Avenue projects

Updated 6:01 AM; Today 5:44 AM

By John Benson, special to cleveland.com

 

LAKEWOOD, Ohio -- The Planning Commission last week gave its approval for two large mixed-use projects proposed for former Detroit Avenue car dealerships.

 

Jerome Solove Development Inc. (JSDI) received approval for a mixed-use overlay district at the Steve Barry Buick car dealership site (16000 Detroit Ave.) to build 160 new apartments and a 3,500 square feet of commercial retail space.

 

JSDI’s other proposed development is at the former Spitzer dealership (13815 Detroit Ave.) with 150 apartments and 1,500 to 3,500 square feet of commercial retail space and added parking. The 2.2-acre site is located between Parkwood Road and Wyandotte Avenue.

 

“The city hasn’t seen new multi-family construction of this scale in over 50 years,” Sylvester said. “So in the interest of just us updating our housing stock, we feel it’s important for the city to consider projects like this.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/community/2019/08/lakewood-planning-commission-gives-columbus-based-developer-approval-for-detroit-avenue-projects.html

“Other changes from the original proposal include increased setbacks and sidewalk sizes, as well as the addition of innovative landscaping.”

 

Are we talking increased setbacks for wider sidewalks (?) or are we talking about increase setbacks for wider sidewalks and landscaping (?) ?

Just now, JSC216 said:

“Other changes from the original proposal include increased setbacks and sidewalk sizes, as well as the addition of innovative landscaping.”

 

Are we talking increased setbacks for wider sidewalks (?) or are we talking about increase setbacks for wider sidewalks and landscaping (?) ?

It sounds like the landscaping will probably be a small tree lawn type strip with a rain garden similar to whats in front of Madison Park. 

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