August 16, 201410 yr Strange to hear that people at AG are skeptical of this happening. I thought it was a sure thing - especially considering all the work that has been done so far. Maybe the higher-ups at AG wised up and are now wanting to move downtown ;) (I can dream, right?)
August 16, 201410 yr Strange to hear that people at AG are skeptical of this happening. I thought it was a sure thing - especially considering all the work that has been done so far. Maybe the higher-ups at AG wised up and are now wanting to move downtown ;) (I can dream, right?) Do the right thing, Bobby Stark!
August 16, 201410 yr ^Highly unlikely given the amount of work that has already been completed. Remember One Cleveland Center was built for Medical Mutual... We know how that turned out. Anything is possible.
August 16, 201410 yr I'm not trying to start rumors, or suggest AG is not building at Crocker... I just know a long time AG insider who has expressed doubts on the Crocker move for some time. I just asked again "is American Greetings not moving to Crocker Park" and they indicated "there is a lot going on at AG.." and steered me away from certainty this is happening. what we do know is land is being cleared and retail tenants have been announced and seemingly are being built on the land nearest the existing Crocker Main Street.
August 16, 201410 yr As much as I'd like this to be true, I just don't see it. In April, we bid on the AG project (and lost), and the award was made rather quickly because they needed to release steel for the building by May in order to stay on schedule. The bid went through AG, not Stark. The building's design has also been complete for some time now. To me, they are too far down the road to stop it now. Too much money invested. But anyways, the new parking garages are going up rather quickly. I really wish a restaurant would fill the empty corner left by Champs. It's been empty for some time now.
August 16, 201410 yr ^Klingaling...are you indicating that the foundation already up and very close to Crocker (closer than anything to date at Crocker Park) is for a parking garage? I was hoping it was for the actual building. One of the things that I hate about Crocker Park is the way the garages are positioned making it seem like almost a fortress. If a garage this is just continuing this mess. Plus, I bet the owners of the town homes to the south which have been there for almost 20 years are thrilled if it is a garage as it is about 20 feet away and will hulk over their homes.
August 16, 201410 yr ^HTS, I haven't been out there in a couple weeks, but I believe so. Panzica is building the garages. Walsh will be doing the AG HQ. EDIT: to add on to this, the parking garages are definitely further ahead than the HQ.
August 28, 201410 yr @amgreetings #GroundBreaking #ceremony !!!!! #Milestone #Creative CrockerPark[/member] @ClevelandRena @CleveNOW @happyincle http://t.co/1ppKQLxU1t "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 15, 201410 yr September 7, 2014 American Greetings Breaks Ground on New World HQ in Westlake By Adrian Maties, Associate Editor American Greetings broke ground on Aug. 26 on its new headquarters building at the Crocker Park development in the Cleveland suburb of Westlake. Expected to cost between $150 million and $200 million, the project is scheduled to be completed in two years. The greeting cards company first announced its intention to build a new headquarters building in Crocker Park in May 2011. A year later, it unveiled the first plans for the facility. Work was scheduled to start by 2012, but the project encountered some problems along the way and was delayed. American Greetings finalized the transaction to relocate its world headquarters this March. On July 1, it announced the sale of its 1.6 million-square-foot facility in Brooklyn to Industrial Realty Group, one of the largest commercial and industrial property owners in Ohio. Under the terms of the deal, American Greetings will continue to lease space in its current location until the completion of its new world headquarters. READ MORE AT: http://www.cpexecutive.com/cities/cleveland/american-greetings-breaks-ground-on-new-world-hq-in-westlake/1004103393.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 7, 201410 yr Restaurants, 'micro-retailers' coming to Crocker Park: Recap of Westlake Planning Commission By Barb Galbincea, Northeast Ohio Media Group on October 07, 2014 at 10:14 AM WESTLAKE, Ohio -- The Westlake Planning Commission signed off Monday night on development plans for two new restaurants at Crocker Park, unique space for "micro-retailers" and a pedestrian alley that was compared to Cleveland's popular East Fourth Street. The commission's recommendation for approval to Westlake City Council does carry a few conditions, but members of the planning panel seemed enthusiastic about the plans for the north end of Crocker Park. "I think the alley is a very strong concept," said Dan Meehan, chairman of the commission. "I think it will be very exciting." READ MORE AT: http://www.cleveland.com/westlake/index.ssf/2014/10/restaurants_micro-retailers_co.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 7, 201410 yr ^Whats wrong with Yard House? It's a chain sure, but it is one of the better chains. I do think their beer is overpriced, however. Also, this is Crocker Park. Chains are to be expected.
October 8, 201410 yr ^Whats wrong with Yard House? It's a chain sure, but it is one of the better chains. I do think their beer is overpriced, however. Also, this is Crocker Park. Chains are to be expected. I've been twice down here and both times the food had no flavor whatsoever! They do have nice atmosphere and drink menus though.
October 8, 201410 yr Roll-up shutters and eight-foot-wide alleyways (though the latter is the minimum width allowed by Westlake and probably not in Stark's actual plans). Makes me wonder if SE is going to use Crocker Park as a guinea pig to test out the laneway concept before the nuCLEus project gets off the ground?
January 15, 201510 yr Stark Enterprises retains The Olympia Cos. as developer and manager of hotel at Crocker Park By STAN BULLARD January 15, 2015 11:07 AM Stark Enterprises of Cleveland has retained The Olympia Cos. of Portland, Maine, as the developer and manager of the six-story Hyatt Place that is rising at Crocker Park in Westlake. Stark and Olympia announced in a news release on Thursday, Jan. 15, that Olympia is providing development services to Stark during the design and construction phases of the hotel. When the 110-room property is completed by the end of this year, Olympia’s hotel management unit will manage it. Robert Stark, CEO of Stark, said his firm selected Olympia because they share values and he considers it a standout in the hotel industry. MORE: http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20150115/FREE/150119908/stark-enterprises-retains-the-olympia-cos-as-developer-and-manager "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 27, 201510 yr September 7, 2014 American Greetings Breaks Ground on New World HQ in Westlake By Adrian Maties, Associate Editor American Greetings broke ground on Aug. 26 on its new headquarters building at the Crocker Park development in the Cleveland suburb of Westlake. Expected to cost between $150 million and $200 million, the project is scheduled to be completed in two years. The greeting cards company first announced its intention to build a new headquarters building in Crocker Park in May 2011. A year later, it unveiled the first plans for the facility. Work was scheduled to start by 2012, but the project encountered some problems along the way and was delayed. American Greetings finalized the transaction to relocate its world headquarters this March. On July 1, it announced the sale of its 1.6 million-square-foot facility in Brooklyn to Industrial Realty Group, one of the largest commercial and industrial property owners in Ohio. Under the terms of the deal, American Greetings will continue to lease space in its current location until the completion of its new world headquarters. READ MORE AT: http://www.cpexecutive.com/cities/cleveland/american-greetings-breaks-ground-on-new-world-hq-in-westlake/1004103393.html This is going in on the Crocker Park side of Crocker Road, right? There is a large plot with a cul de sac dirt road in the center across Crocker, are there plans for it already?
February 27, 201510 yr This is going in on the Crocker Park side of Crocker Road, right? There is a large plot with a cul de sac dirt road in the center across Crocker, are there plans for it already? Yes, A-G is already well under construction. Don't what's being considered for the cul de sac on the east side of Crocker Road. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 28, 201510 yr ^^All I know if if they thought they had traffic problems before....wait until all this is done!
March 2, 201510 yr ^ Whoever's in charge of timing the traffic signals in Westlake will really have their work cut out for them soon. As for the cul-de-sac, that's been there since before Crocker Park even existed. Google Earth's historic imagery mode shows it existing since at least 1994.
May 18, 201510 yr Take a ride by Crocker Park. It's the most construction I've seen since the core of the development was built a decade ago. The American Greetings building is quite large. Crocker Park's construction boom Posted: May 14, 2015 8:31 PM EDT Updated: May 14, 2015 11:16 PM EDT By Tiffani Tucker Posted by 19 Action News Digital Team WESTLAKE, OH (WOIO) - You can call it a "city within a city." "It's lifestyle living with multi use. You can live here. You can work here. You can shop here. You can have dinner here," says Assistant V.P. of Operations Tina Roberts. Crocker Park construction in Westlake is bringing an economic boost to the area. The $300 million project adds up to more than 300 new jobs, and that doesn't include the hundreds of construction crews from across northeast Ohio that working already. "It's going to grow to probably 500, half a dozen general contractors that are working for us. It's going to keep three to five hundred people working for at least a year and a half or so," explains construction manager Bill Trump. MORE: http://www.19actionnews.com/story/29070091/crocker-parks-construction-boom "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 18, 201510 yr It's too bad American Greetings chose to move when they did. I met a few women from AG last week.. they drove all the way to downtown on their lunch breaks to help support the businesses on E. 6th that were affected by the Garfield Building parapet collapse. They said at the time they were excited for the move to Crocker Park, but now they just wish they were moving downtown.
May 18, 201510 yr Here's their HQ. I don't think this view has been posted yet... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 18, 201510 yr Traffic stinks on Crocker Road and is getting worse. The timing of traffic lights is also bad.
May 18, 201510 yr It's too bad American Greetings chose to move when they did. I met a few women from AG last week.. they drove all the way to downtown on their lunch breaks to help support the businesses on E. 6th that were affected by the Garfield Building parapet collapse. They said at the time they were excited for the move to Crocker Park, but now they just wish they were moving downtown. All of the artists were overjoyed at the announcement they were leaving for Crocker Park. Some even started living at Crocker Park immediately after. One of the complaints I hear is that while the new place will be very much improved for common areas and management offices, the space for the illustrators is somewhat lacking. That being said, none of the employees will ever miss the old place.
May 19, 201510 yr It's too bad American Greetings chose to move when they did. I met a few women from AG last week.. they drove all the way to downtown on their lunch breaks to help support the businesses on E. 6th that were affected by the Garfield Building parapet collapse. They said at the time they were excited for the move to Crocker Park, but now they just wish they were moving downtown. All of the artists were overjoyed at the announcement they were leaving for Crocker Park. Some even started living at Crocker Park immediately after. One of the complaints I hear is that while the new place will be very much improved for common areas and management offices, the space for the illustrators is somewhat lacking. That being said, none of the employees will ever miss the old place. Is it fair to ask, "that if they had move to any location, it would be an upgrade over the previous space and employee morale would have seen a boost?" So it's really not about CP, but having a new office space, regardless of location, with state of the art equipment.
May 19, 201510 yr If they hadn't already chosen Crocker Park, I think there would have been a decent chance of American Greetings being the main office component of Nucleus.
May 19, 201510 yr It's too bad American Greetings chose to move when they did. I met a few women from AG last week.. they drove all the way to downtown on their lunch breaks to help support the businesses on E. 6th that were affected by the Garfield Building parapet collapse. They said at the time they were excited for the move to Crocker Park, but now they just wish they were moving downtown. All of the artists were overjoyed at the announcement they were leaving for Crocker Park. Some even started living at Crocker Park immediately after. One of the complaints I hear is that while the new place will be very much improved for common areas and management offices, the space for the illustrators is somewhat lacking. That being said, none of the employees will ever miss the old place. Is it fair to ask, "that if they had move to any location, it would be an upgrade over the previous space and employee morale would have seen a boost?" So it's really not about CP, but having a new office space, regardless of location, with state of the art equipment. "Regardless of location" might be a stretch. They might not have been too happy to move to Mentor, or downtown.
May 19, 201510 yr If they hadn't already chosen Crocker Park, I think there would have been a decent chance of American Greetings being the main office component of Nucleus. I not sure about that. Considering the planning timeline.
May 19, 201510 yr It's too bad American Greetings chose to move when they did. I met a few women from AG last week.. they drove all the way to downtown on their lunch breaks to help support the businesses on E. 6th that were affected by the Garfield Building parapet collapse. They said at the time they were excited for the move to Crocker Park, but now they just wish they were moving downtown. All of the artists were overjoyed at the announcement they were leaving for Crocker Park. Some even started living at Crocker Park immediately after. One of the complaints I hear is that while the new place will be very much improved for common areas and management offices, the space for the illustrators is somewhat lacking. That being said, none of the employees will ever miss the old place. Is it fair to ask, "that if they had move to any location, it would be an upgrade over the previous space and employee morale would have seen a boost?" So it's really not about CP, but having a new office space, regardless of location, with state of the art equipment. "Regardless of location" might be a stretch. They might not have been too happy to move to Mentor, or downtown. I'm speaking about the workers morale. Seems like they had outdated office and equipment. The new building brings them updated and state of the art equipment, raising employee morale. No employee, like the people on this forum, are ever going to be happy about each thing.
May 19, 201510 yr I guess I'm saying, if the timeline wasn't an issue, then there could have been a good chance. If AG hadn't started looking for a new HQ until recently, I think Stark could have convinced them to join Nucleus. I would say downtown is currently a much more desirable location than it was at the time that AG was choosing an HQ.
May 19, 201510 yr Traffic stinks on Crocker Road and is getting worse. The timing of traffic lights is also bad. Unless employees are living in the immediate area, their commute is going to suck. That interchange is going to become a quagmire when AG is finished. It will take downtown workers 20 minutes to get there from downtown on I90, and another 45 minutes to get home. ODOT's response? Predictably, they'll want to widen I90 up to that point, even though the choke points are on the surface streets.
May 19, 201510 yr Unless employees are living in the immediate area, their commute is going to suck. That interchange is going to become a quagmire when AG is finished. It will take downtown workers 20 minutes to get there from downtown on I90, and another 45 minutes to get home. ODOT's response? Predictably, they'll want to widen I90 up to that point, even though the choke points are on the surface streets. I'd investigate a partnership between GCRTA and AG to extend the Westlake P&R buses (http://www.riderta.com/routes/246) to Crocker Park and carry passengers on the currently empty back hauls to downtown. That would allow GCRTA to turn non-revenue trips into revenue trips and run express on I-90. For those not downtown-bound or connecting to transit to the east side, etc., GCRTA operates the #25 and #49 routes to Rocky River, Lakewood and Red Line rail stations. The #49 runs seven days a week with buses from 5 a.m. to 11 p.m. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 30, 20159 yr Lots of photos of CP's construction going back to the early 2000s.... Crocker Park creates downtown Westlake, serves as beacon for suburban shopping centers (photos) By Chanda Neely, Northeast Ohio Media Group on June 29, 2015 at 8:55 AM, updated June 29, 2015 at 9:51 AM WESTLAKE, Ohio –- When developer Bob Stark dreamed up Crocker Park more than 15 years ago, he essentially created a downtown for the far-flung suburb -- and a beacon for communities that hoped to copy its energy in their own shopping center. Crocker is the only lifestyle center of its kind in Ohio -- a regional draw with homes, businesses, restaurants and stores –- built a few years after voters rejected Beachwood Place developer Rouse Co.'s plans to build stores at the same location. Hudson's First & Main, added on to the city's historic downtown, follows the same spirit, albeit on a smaller scale. The 90-acre Easton Town Center in Columbus is also similar, though apartments sit outside the perimeter replica city streets. But Easton developer Steiner + Associates are building a $350 million, work-live-play development called Liberty Center, slated to open north of Cincinnati in October. MORE: http://www.cleveland.com/westlake/index.ssf/2015/06/crocker_park_gives_birth_to_do.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 30, 20159 yr I think a downtown should have public streets and publicly owned spaces. No doubt that Crocker Park has been a commercial success, but it is more of a downtown simulation than a true downtown.
June 30, 20159 yr I think a downtown should have public streets and publicly owned spaces. No doubt that Crocker Park has been a commercial success, but it is more of a downtown simulation than a true downtown. That's kind of the point. It provides density (proving you all's point that there is a market for same) without some of the problems that can happen in public spaces. You can debate all day whether that's right or wrong, but that's what the demand is for.
June 30, 20159 yr That's kind of the point. It provides density (proving you all's point that there is a market for same) without some of the problems that can happen in public spaces. You can debate all day whether that's right or wrong, but that's what the demand is for. Yes, I know that's the point. There are other lifestyle centers that are more interesting than Crocker Park, because they are integrated into neighborhoods that are more interesting mixes of public and private domain. Examples are South Side Works in Pittsburgh, First and Main in Hudson, and the now-struggling Gateway in Salt Lake City.
June 30, 20159 yr I'm pretty sure Crocker Park's streets are public streets. If not, then Crocker Park has an agreement with the city in which police are allowed to patrol the streets, enforce traffic laws, issue parking tickets, etc. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 30, 20159 yr I'm pretty sure Crocker Park's streets are public streets. If not, then Crocker Park has an agreement with the city in which police are allowed to patrol the streets, enforce traffic laws, issue parking tickets, etc. Yes, this is true. But it's the Westlake police, and the common areas are still considered private property, of sorts.
June 30, 20159 yr I don't know about the streets in the adjoining townhouse neighborhood, but the streets in the center of Crocker Park are not public.
June 30, 20159 yr Do the streets in Crocker park have names? And do the stores along them have number address' using those names, or are they all Crocker Road address'?
June 30, 20159 yr Do the streets in Crocker park have names? And do the stores along them have number address' using those names, or are they all Crocker Road address'? It does. Vine St, Main St, Crocker Park Blvd, etc. The business address are listed as the street they are on, not as a general Crocker Road address.
September 22, 20159 yr A 100k rental ofc bldg may be in Westlake's future if developer Bob Stark gets to continue his Crocker Park vision. http://t.co/wjOajrpe5r "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 22, 20159 yr Whats the story on that empty land across the street from that location on that stubby little cul-de-sac?
November 19, 20159 yr Ironically, nearly all of the hotel-proximate attractions they hyped in this PR are downtown! Hyatt Place Cleveland/Westlake/Crocker Celebrates Official Opening 110-room Hyatt Place hotel located in upscale Westlake, Ohio November 19, 2015 03:27 PM Eastern Standard Time CHICAGO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Hyatt Place Cleveland/Westlake/Crocker Park, the second Hyatt Place hotel to enter the Cleveland metropolitan area, officially opens today in Westlake, Ohio. The hotel brings the Hyatt Place brand’s intuitive design, casual atmosphere, and practical amenities, such as free Wi-Fi and 24-hour food offerings, to this bustling midwestern city. “We are thrilled to deliver this exciting, J.D. Power award-winning brand to the region’s premier lifestyle district, Crocker Park. The quality and service that the Hyatt Place brand exemplifies will be a perfect complement to Crocker Park and a welcome addition to the community,” said General Manager Todd Lentz. Hyatt Place Cleveland/Westlake/Crocker Park is the only hotel integrated within Crocker Park, the region’s premier lifestyle development. The development boasts more than 30 restaurants and dining options, and well over 80 upscale shopping experiences. The hotel is also conveniently located off of Interstate 90, just minutes from downtown Cleveland and numerous sporting attractions, including First Energy Stadium, Progressive Field and Quicken Loans Arena. Guests can also enjoy easy access to Playhouse Square, the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, the Horseshoe Casino, and Cleveland Hopkins International Airport MORE: http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20151119006612/en/Hyatt-Place-ClevelandWestlakeCrocker-Celebrates-Official-Opening "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 19, 20159 yr Nice looking hotel. Enjoyed my opening day lunch at the adjacent Yard House last Saturday. The Crocker Texas de Brazil reataurant now on hold until 2016 (was announced in Sept to open next week)
March 10, 20169 yr http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/oh-cuyahoga/police-investigating-explosion-at-crocker-park
March 10, 20169 yr there is a video on Cleveland.com that is pretty intense. this aint no garbage can fire. Hope everyone is OK
March 10, 20169 yr Redirecting this to the suburban safety thread..... http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,18861.msg794151.html#msg794151 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 10, 20169 yr There is another video on Twitter from a different angle that shows the explosion right next to several firefighters. Scary. Hope they are ok
March 10, 20169 yr Hope this holds up: No injuries were reported as of 11:30 a.m. and "everyone has been confirmed and accounted for," Sadd said. http://www.cleveland.com/westlake/index.ssf/2016/03/propane_tanks_explode_at_crock.html#incart_2box
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