Urbanlife or Mayday (or anyone else who wants to chime in):  How would you characterize Tremont vs. downtown?  I've already been to some Tremont websites (restoretremont), and would like to garner some opinions.  From what I've read, I get the feeling that Tremont is slightly more unique, trendy, and eclectic while downtown, well, has that typical downtown feel with more mainstream, corporate franchises.  And while downtown residents may be more young, urban, and professional, what is Tremont's demographic?

 

Also, would you consider $675 for rent in the Literary road/West 6th area for a newer, ground floor, 1 Br apt of a row house to be about average or expensive?

 

I'll chime in..You are correct with your characterization of Tremont. In regards to the rent, I'm not quite sure.

tbone, do you know if that is a garden apartment (English basement style) in one of the Tremont Ridge townhomes? If so, those are on the pricey side for the area (but compared to some cities, it's inexpensive) but they're also in the most gentrified section of Tremont. So, yes $675 is high (especially if utilities aren't included, and absurd if secured parking isn't included), but you're getting new construction in a prime area that's in walking/stumbling distance of the bars/restaurants that Tremont is known for.

 

Tremont is really an odd mix - you have over 20 churches in one square mile (everything from a Korean Catholic church to Russian Orthodox), coupled with dozens of new townhomes, along with former ethnic halls (like a Moose Lodge but geared for Ukrainians or whoever), shotgun bungalows, all centered around Lincoln Park. The residents are just as eclectic - young hipsters (who eschew places like the Warehouse District), guppies, Section 8 recipients, older empty nesters with an artsy slant, old folks who bought their homes and retired from the steel mills, etc. There are no chain restaurants in Tremont, but there are plenty of restaurants to choose from - from Sokolowski's Polish food served cafeteria-style to the chic spots like Fahrenheit and Parallax to the neighborhood joints like South Side and Prosperity to coffeeshops like Luckys and Civilization. Take all of that and hem it in with the Innerbelt on the west, the Industrial Valley to the east (and north with amazing skyline views), and the post-Industrial Valley with the new Steelyard Commons power center and you have one heck of a quirky neighborhood.

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/ClevTremont.htm

tbone, do you know if that is a garden apartment (English basement style) in one of the Tremont Ridge townhomes? If so, those are on the pricey side for the area (but compared to some cities, it's inexpensive) but they're also in the most gentrified section of Tremont. So, yes $675 is high (especially if utilities aren't included, and absurd if secured parking isn't included), but you're getting new construction in a prime area that's in walking/stumbling distance of the bars/restaurants that Tremont is known for.

http://www.urbanohio.com/ClevTremont.htm

 

I believe that it is the basement apt. of one of the Tremont Ridge houses.  As for the rate, I've heard of those units going for as high as $850, but that was a realtor telling me that, so I take it with a grain of salt.  I've heard from an actual homeowner that he gets $650 for his. 

 

I've been in those basement apartments and they are actually really nice and surprisingly big.  Most of those houses have a footprint of about 20 X 45, so minus dead space (basement utility room), you're talking an apartment of 800 sq. ft. or so.

Man, are you guys on top of things!  Yes, it is an English Garden style apartment.  The landlord is only responsible for water, sewage, and the alarm system, which is a plus, while I am responsible for the rest.  By my guesstimation, I'll be paying about $850-900/month for everything else.  (Personally, this was more than I was looking to spend, but I can manage it within my budget.  And on top of that, it will be just me, as opposed to having roommates to keep costs down.)  Parking is not included, but I've been told there is always plenty of space in front of the building.  And the place IS 800 sq. feet (nice call FrqntFlyr!). 

 

And another question.  How "busy" are the streets?  On google maps, I really don't see much traffic, so I'm wondering what the main thoroughfare through Tremont is?

Tremont is odd that way. It is very isolated from the rest of the city by highways and river valleys. West 14th is the thoroughfare, but most of the food/drink/art gallery action revolves around Professor.  West 7th won't have that much traffic.

And another question.  How "busy" are the streets?  On google maps, I really don't see much traffic, so I'm wondering what the main thoroughfare through Tremont is?

 

Those maps (google or MSN) are not accurate.  They're imaging is not always current.  example, notice most pictures of Cleveland were taken in fall of 05.  Some images are even older. for example look at the RTA rail yard, stonebridge or the avenue district area.

 

They don't really capture the true nature of traffic, vehicular or pedestrian.

West 14th is the primary feeder street into Tremont from the freeway and Ohio City, but other than that it is a traffic jam-free neighborhood, as opposed to W25th Street near the West Side Market on a saturday that can get backed up for blocks.  Tremont is pretty much a typical residential neighborhood in the traffic sense, aside from the 500 or so rec-league coed football players flow into the Treehouse throughout saturday mornings and afternoons.

I didn't realize treemont was so "sleepy" so to speak.  Ya learn something new everyday.

^You need to get out of Shaker Square every once in a while ;)

 

^You need to get out of Shaker Square every once in a while ;)

 

 

He He He...I do but Tremont confuses the hell out of me.  Whenever I stop by my Aunt/Uncles homes on the west side, I try to stop by Ohio City or Tremont, to better familiarize myself with the west side.

Hey tbone14, the same thing happened to me about 6 months ago. My main pick was a corner unit on East 4th but somebody else leased it a day before I flew into Cleveland to look at it.

 

If an active younger scene is what you want, IMHO the choice is really between the warehouse/East 4th in downtown and Lakewood, a former suburban area near downtown. The warehouse district is more upscale and has fewer overall venues, but they are booming after 5 and on the weekends. The crowd is split between the young lofties that live there, and those the same age but drive in from the suburbs. Lakewood is much more casual, has more venues along the lines of neighborhood bar & grills, and the crowd is more local. There may be some families and younger married couples around, but there is no shortage of singles either.

 

Just about everything in the downtown area is within walking range, which is great for avoiding DUIs. Lakewood, not so much. But the price of entertainment in Lakewood is cheaper, and rent is much, much cheaper. Downtown is great if you like lofts, Lakewood has more of the charming older apartments. You get what you pay for in downtown lofts, the expensive ones are generally well run, the cheaper ones have a lot of complaints. East 4th is supposed to be a good management company.

 

I lived in rural western Kansas once so I don't know too much about what KC is like, but I did move to Cleveland from Madison, Wisconsin, which quite frankly had the best downtown scene I've ever lived in. And that includes Chicago, Philadelphia, and near downtown Houston (Houston's is almost all skyscrapers). The main critique I have for Cleveland is that the downtown is sparsely populated. For a city this size they're aren't a lot of people living downtown once outside of the warehouse/East 4th area. That might change in 5 years as the city is putting some effort into the area and there is some major development in the works, but it's not there yet. And more people live in the Bingham than in the entire small Kansas town I was once in. But if you live downtown, get used to going to the same places. If you go to Lakewood, be prepared for a bunch of short drives.

 

Before moving I also looked in Tremont and 25th street. I loved Tremont and the people living there, but it was too isolated geographically speaking. 25th street has some seedy areas south of it and a rough area just to the north. You might want to take a look at the Statler Arms, a turn-of-the-century high-end hotel that was converted to apartments. It's fairly well managed, close to the East 4th area, has a wide variety of floor plans, and an attached parking garage.

 

Something you'll really want to consider is where your work will be, because rush hour traffic is a bear here. One of the reasons I chose downtown is to reverse commute, going in the opposite direction of most 9-5ers.  That part has been great. Lakewood doesn't have many quick & easy ways to get to the highway, and what there is will be congested heading into town during peak traffic hours. 

......Lakewood, a former suburban area near downtown.......

 

I don't quite get that. Lakewood is a suburb, period.

an "early"  suburb. my lakewood home was built in 1895. i think when most people around here think of suburb, they think of mentor, strongsville, solon and such. though nonetheless, technically it is a suburb.

This is an interesting question. Really, any of the neighborhoods listed would be great. I live in Lakewood near W. 117 (the Cleveland border), and I like it over here. I have a reasonably price apartment with a parking lot, and crime hasn't been much of an issue in the year I've been here. If I were to do it all over again, I would have picked an apartment a block east in Cleveland so I wouldn't get hosed on income taxes (no reciprocity in the suburbs).

 

In the future, I'd like to live in Ohio City, Little Italy, Shaker Square and maybe Tremont. Downtown is cool, but right now it feels a little cold and dead to me, especially on the weekends. Don't kill me, but I was thinking about it the other day, when I go out to have fun, I end up in Tremont, Lakewood, Little Italy and University Circle. These are the nodes I found attractive. I'm not much of a club person. I think that if Bob Stark gets digging, though, things will change big-time, and I'll be there more often, especially if he gets good stores there. Just as an aside, this might be a great time to get a condo in the WHD. My friend lives in Westlake right near Crocker Park and he's moving to Lakewood because his landlord is raising the rent $100 because of that lil' outdoor mall's popularity. Imagine how much you could get with all those historic buildings and proximity to the West, East, South and the Lake.

 

This will sound sinful, but downtown could be the new Avon Lake!

This will sound sinful, but downtown could be the new Avon Lake!

 

URGH!  JamieC, them's lynchin' words!  You might need to be "reprogrammed" based on that statement!

Hah! I knew you'd like that little bit, MTS. Did we ever figure out if Tbone is a guy or girl? I'm trying to figure out which neighborhood has the most cutest girls. I'm surprised no one leads off with this question when they ask about relocating. That's the first thing I'm looking for when I pick a place to go!

 

 

 

Did we ever figure out if Tbone is a guy or girl?

 

I'm 28, male.  What else would you like to know? :wave:

 

 

Neighborhoods with the cutest girls?  Hummmmmmm :roll: :roll:

well i know lakewood is at the top of my list when it comes to ladies. though i usually run into some fine femmes when carousing about in tremont. i'd also have to include the edgewater neighborhood.

"Neighborhoods with the cutest girls?  Hummmmmmm"

 

For the record, this Admin is not opposed to *tasteful* discussion of what areas might be conducive for admiration of northeast Ohio's attractive residents of any gender. However - the operative word is tasteful, and any discussion that deviates from that standard gets shot down.

 

That said - even as a gay man, I can't help but notice a lot of attractive gals at the South Side in Tremont (working or visiting).

Many more interesting points brought up. 

 

But first, an update, and some random thoughts.  I'm focusing my search now on Tremont pretty hard.  I think that's my top preference.  Also, after much deliberation, I will be traveling to Cleveland early next week to view in person open rental properties.  While my initial intentions were good, I think doing an apartment search in person will serve me and the landlord better.

 

Concerning Tremont - I've based alot of my search within the map parameters from this post.  http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=12166.0  Now, I know that some areas of Tremont are better than others.  Can anyone give me some areas or cross-streets to avoid due to a seemingly bad neighborhood or increased crime rates?

 

subclavius - Where in western Kansas did you spend time in?

 

jamiec (and everyone, for that matter) - That's a very insightful question (and a thought that has crossed my mind).  What area do the attractive members of the opposite sex live, hang out, and frequent?  Of course, in reality, there are cute girls in every city!

 

Random thought on WD - Indeed it is very popular.  But to me, it seems strange that the top property downtown (Bingham) has so many vacancies.  Granted, it looks spectacular and has Constantino's, but perhaps it is a tad (translation: way) overpriced?  Maybe they are just relying on the suckers from out of town to rent to, or the people who want to feel special.  Come to think of it, I haven't seen one poster on this board from the Bingham, but I could surely be mistaken.....

For the most part, crime in Tremont is limited to property crimes such as cars getting broken into, etc. Some of it is completely preventable (aka don't leave your iPod or anything of value out in plain sight). The best areas north of I-490 are around Lincoln Park (West 11th, Lemko Hall area), and the best areas south of I-490 are closer to West 14th. The southern portion of Tremont isn't as photogenic but there are some decent places to be found.

Concerning Tremont, there a lot of the "English Style" garden apartments available in the newer townhomes that are located along w.7, w.6, literary road area. These units are in essence the basements of these townhomes. My best friend lived in one for 5 years and their actually quite nice for a single person. For the most part they are 1br, w/ an in-suite w/d. You gotta park on the street, but I believe he was paying $500/mo. It is a very walkable area, with some killer views of downtown. Some nice looking ladies, too. I'm a big Tremont fan,(used to live there) tho I live in Lakewood now.

jonmoxon - I'd kill for an English style garden apartment for only $500/month in Tremont!  The few that I am coming across are in the mid to upper 600s.  Out of curiousity, why did you move from Tremont to Lakewood?

Random thought on WD - Indeed it is very popular.  But to me, it seems strange that the top property downtown (Bingham) has so many vacancies.  Granted, it looks spectacular and has Constantino's, but perhaps it is a tad (translation: way) overpriced?  Maybe they are just relying on the suckers from out of town to rent to, or the people who want to feel special.  Come to think of it, I haven't seen one poster on this board from the Bingham, but I could surely be mistaken.....

 

I have a friend that lives in Bingham and she loves it. It is an amazing building...I definitely think you get what you pay for. They are almost always running some type of rent special (like 1 month free).

 

Have you looked into Stonebridge (in the Flats) at all? I lived in Stonebridge and loved it. You can still easily walk to places like the Warehouse District, and some of the views are very nice. The materials in the apartments are very nice as well (granite counters and many have stainless steel in the kitchen, etc). Also, parking is a lot cheaper than most places downtown (outdoor gated parking for $25 and indoor for $65).

I relocated ALOT (12 times in 6 years) and the most successful way I have found the best apartments for the price is to ask bartenders near where you want to live.

 

So if you are going to Tremont, swing by the Treehouse and check with your barkeep

I sometimes see those Tremont apts. advertised in the Free Times and Scene Magazine classifieds. You could check those out online if you're interested.

I was renting in Tremont (the Chelsea on 14th and 490) at the time and was looking to buy. I couldn't find anything in Tremont in my price range at the time. I found a nice little house in Lakewood that I was able to buy with my brother. I still hang out in Tremont a lot. Good luck with your search!

The unit my buddy lived in was at 1284 w. 6th. I don't know if its available or not. His landlord was the homeowner of the townhouse above him and he never raised the rent in the 5 years he was there, though I'm sure it's been jacked up for the next guy.

subclavius - Where in western Kansas did you spend time in?

 

I got a Master's from FHSU in Hays and lived there for a couple of years, but my hometown was so small even the Kansans in KC haven't heard of it.

 

Tremont is one of the more eclectic areas in town. There are a lot of rentals that look like plain old houses on the outside, but have modded-out loft style interiors. There's a few flats and a lot of wood-sided houses.

 

Neighborhoods with the cutest girls?  Hummmmmmm

 

I'm being perfectly honest here: I don't know about the rest of Ohio, but girls in Cleveland aren't as attractive as those in Kansas. Sorry folks, but it's true. The small-town farmer's daughter is no stereotype. They're all over Kansas, not just in the country. And most of the attractive Kansas women have very fine features and are very feminine. The difference is, there isn't much middle ground. It's either hot-Kansas-female or a butter-churning, corn-fed, wide-hipped woman. And the Kansas ladies tend to get married earlier, so there's more single "older" (as a relative term) women here in Cleveland if you like that sort of thing.

 

In Cleveland, you'll find the souped up, dressed-out high maintenance women at the clubs downtown, and the casual bleached-blonde wolfpacks in Tremont & Lakewood.

 

For the most part, crime in Tremont is limited to property crimes such as cars getting broken into, etc.

 

As far as crime is concerned, one mantra is repeated time and time again here, no matter which part of the city you live in: "Never leave anything in your car"

 

Greetings everyone!  I'm currently in Cleveland, and looking for places to live.  I've driven all around Tremont (and Ohio City), and avoided downtown (due to costs, and apartment/complex living).

 

So far, Tremont does have a "sleepy" feel to it.  Unless you're around the renovated, gentrified area, Tremont is just like any other neighborhood.  Main attractions for me are the close proximity to restaurants, bars, and shops.  I've looked at many rentals properties around West 5th to West 7th and Literary, and so far my top choice is an English garden style lower level of a townhouse. 

 

As for Ohio City, it's much more commercial and bustling.  I have not seen many rental properties at all.  Other than places like the Federal Knitting Mills and stuff online, there is very little for rent just driving around.  My question concerning Ohio City - where are the happening places (bars, restaurants, ect.)?  I can definitely see why people like it, closeness to the RTA, the Westside Market, etc.  But, I'm wondering what I would like that I'm missing?

 

Again, thanks for reading!

Tremont won't feel so sleepy on weekend evenings.

 

Re Ohio City:  there are many homes that have rentals available. You should pick up a Free Times or Scene. They'll have a good list of available rentals. You should also just hit the pavement. You'll see rentals available --walk around on Bridge Ave, Jay, Carroll, W.30th etc.

 

The area around the West Side Market and Great Lakes Brewery is the heart of Ohio City. There is another nice little collection of restaurants at Bridge Ave/Fulton Ave. 

Ohio City (from a downtowners point of view) is consistent of W. 25th St. and Fulton Ave. When I'm in Ohio City its for Great Lakes Beer (aka God's Brew) or to visit Bier Market or the West Side Market.

 

While I'll be out of downtown in less than a week and headed to Battery Park, I still believe that downtown is the best place to be. Waterstreet Apartments is very affordable, segregated from the noise, and still walkable. They have 1 Bedrooms available for $650-$725 that you can put a "rent-to-own" possibility on.

 

Bingham is a GREAT place, but over 70% of their units look just like the model. The vacancy is presently less than 10% which is great, but with over 340 units, that means they have a lot to offer still. I am biased, as we all are, but if you're new to the area, I'd still live downtown first before you try to find that appreciation for the neighborhoods. I love Battery Park, but would have never chosen to live there had I not gone downtown for 2 years first.

 

This is of course in my humble opinion :-)

 

Check out http://www.clevelandcityliving.com as well for more info.

There are a bunch of places in Ohio City to grab a pint or 10.  Quick rundown.

 

ABC The Tavern, just south of Bridge on W25th is my favorite shot and a beer joint in the city (up there with the Hi-Low Club on Superior).

 

Touch on Lorain just east of W28th, rock night on thursday is a good time as well as friday and saturday nights.

 

Light Bistro at the corner of W28th and Bridge, new spot, good place for small plates.

 

Flying Fig, very underrated happy hour, across from Great Lakes Brewery

 

Garage Bar at W25th and Bridge, very ecclectic crowd from bikers to hipsters to a little more well rounded suburbanite.

 

Bier Markt at W25th and Market Ave, great beers, good crowds, best chance to mingle with attractive females.

 

Also, if you are looking for an apartment, check out the West Virginia Building at the NW corner of Bridge and W28th.  I've lived there for 2+ years and it's the best location in town in my opinion.  Mass transit from there is effortless and it's plopped right in the tree lined center of Ohio City.

tbone14  - good luck with you're search. I was just in Tremont at Prosperity Social Club and 806 - and then Mercury Lounge on W.6th - last night enjoying their great patios in the warm weather! 806 in particular had a pretty deccent and attractive crowd of females for a Wednesday night. Anyway, I an hoping to move into either Tremont or Ohio City myself in the next several months. (I only need to get a job first). I noticed the Plain Dealer Classifieds had some pretty extensive listings for reasonably priced Ohio City and Tremont apartments. A lot of the listings were vague on specific location, but the rates listed were really reasonable and worth a follow-up call in my opinion. I suggest you pick up the Plain Dealer and look for yourself.

Besides craiglist.org, you might find a few places here:

 

http://www.pluggedincleveland.com/rentals/

And the winning rental property is.....  one of the English Garden apartments in the basement of a Tremont Ridge home!  The landlord and I agreed on a price in the very low $600/month range.  As of right now, I'm very happy with my decision.  I literally drove down every road in Tremont until I got a feel for the neighborhood, and a sense of direction of where I was.  Being steps away and only a few blocks from 7th and Professor where all the activity happens is really exciting.  Plus, I'm only a short walk and about 1-2 miles from Jacobs Field and East 4th.  Of course, I doubt I'll be walking this stretch, as I'm sure cab fare can't be more than a handful of dollars. 

 

I'm really looking forward to moving to Cleveland, and seeing what it has to offer.  My official moving date is planned for the middle of June.  Once I get there, there are lots of bars and restaurants that I can't wait to go to in Tremont, downtown, Ohio City, and even Chinatown!  First drink is on me if you introduce yourself from this website!

 

Finally, everyone, THANK YOU SO MUCH for all of your help, insight, comments, and information.  I'd hate to see what would've happened or where'd I end up had I not discovered this website.

 

Oh yea, and one final thing for any lurkers reading.  Last week (Thursday?), I got a call from East 4th management.  They had an opening of a 1BR rental property in one of their complexes (I don't know which one) with a rent of $750/month.  It may still be available....

^grab a bus downtown at the start of your night (i'm really cheap), then cab back.

I am just reading this thread. You can be assured you made an excellent choice. You are close to work (with the price of gas this matters more than ever. and if you chose, you could be a quick bus ride to Metro) nd in a  great area. While no where around here has 24 hour hustle bustle, tremont has great spots from happy hour to at least 1am. If you are working third shift you can go to the Rowley Inn - I think it is still in operation and opens and serve liquor at about 5 am. I live in flats and despite the fact I can walk to downtown in about 10 short minutes, we spend nearly all our time in Tremont, OC or the neighborhood joints in the flats.

 

 

Neighborhoods with the cutest girls?  Hummmmmmm

 

I'm being perfectly honest here: I don't know about the rest of Ohio, but girls in Cleveland aren't as attractive as those in Kansas. Sorry folks, but it's true. The small-town farmer's daughter is no stereotype. They're all over Kansas, not just in the country. And most of the attractive Kansas women have very fine features and are very feminine. The difference is, there isn't much middle ground. It's either hot-Kansas-female or a butter-churning, corn-fed, wide-hipped woman. And the Kansas ladies tend to get married earlier, so there's more single "older" (as a relative term) women here in Cleveland if you like that sort of thing.

 

In Cleveland, you'll find the souped up, dressed-out high maintenance women at the clubs downtown, and the casual bleached-blonde wolfpacks in Tremont & Lakewood.

 

 

I'm not sure what Lakewood you live in, but when I walk down detroit rd, all I see is riff raff.  I have yet to see any really attractive when here. I agree Tremont and Warehouse district are the few places in Cleveland you'll see any. Also was at the Starbucks in Strongsville for an appointment for the first tiem and they were everywhere! Who knew?

^well for one you have not had enough to drink on detroit or you are looking at the drag queens.  Second, if you heard just one of the insipid conversations those girls were having in a Strongsville starbucks you would be shriveled in no time at all.  If you did not have that reaction, you should live there.

I'm not sure what Lakewood you live in, but when I walk down detroit rd, all I see is riff raff.  I have yet to see any really attractive when here. I agree Tremont and Warehouse district are the few places in Cleveland you'll see any. Also was at the Starbucks in Strongsville for an appointment for the first tiem and they were everywhere! Who knew?

 

Detroit is a long street. Near 117th, you get some riff raff and you get the alternative chicks. On the other end of Detroit near Lakewood's bar scene, I assume you get a much more suburban crowd.

 

 

Congratulations tbone14!

 

Plus, I'm only a short walk and about 1-2 miles from Jacobs Field and East 4th.

 

Get a beater bicycle. I've got a fixed gear vintage Schwinn from the 50's with big fat tires on it and it is perfectly suited for the city. I've ridden it from Tower Press, at the far end of the Gateway/Avenue District to Tremont several times, although the ride back from the Greek Festival after chowing down on all that food was a little challenging.......

CONGRATS TO OUR NEWEST CLEVELANDER.  HOPE TO SEE MORE OF YOU HERE ON URBANOHIO!!

Welcome to Ctown, Tbone.

Hey tbone, congrats on the find! That's a cool neighborhood and I know you'll really enjoy it. My buddy who lived there got married and now has a house in the south hills area of Cleveland but we often find ourselves reminiscing about his old pad on w. 6th. I crashed many a night on his couch after a hard night of pounding brews down there. Ah, the good old days. :-D

Update, and more advice/recommendations requested.  I was about to start a new thread, but wasn't sure what category to put it in.  So, I'm using the old standby.

 

So far, so good.  I'm enjoying my early stay around Cleveland.  I don't know where much anything is, so I find myself driving around a lot, until I find whatever it is I'm looking for.  I've been to downtown a handful of times, but it looks like a mess.  Construction, horrible traffic, no parking, etc., etc.  While it'd be great to live there, I'm extremely happy I don't.  All the little things that get on my nerves would get to me!  I've been around Tremont a lot.  I've visited University Inn, Southside, La Bodega, and Luckys, and I've barely scratched the surface of what's out there.  I hope to take in a few more restaurants and bars this week since I have some more free time.

 

And on another note, besides the Westside market, where is a general, good quality, all purpose grocery store?  Where I'm from, those stores were called Dillon's, Kroger, or Hy-Vee.  However, I have yet to see anything around where I live.

 

Finally, on to more serious matters.  Can anyone recommend a good dentist (and/or endontist)?  One that takes time to explain what's going on, does a meticulously good job with good bedside/chairside manner, and is also well skilled?  Long story short, I received some questionable dental work before I moved here, and now, I'm literally in pain paying for it.  So, after some serious research and talking to a recent dental school grad, it looks like I'm going to need someone to repair the problems (i.e. cavity => root canal => crown).  If anyone can help, please post or private message me.  Thanks again!

I'd be curious to hear dentist suggestions, as well.

 

In terms of grocery, have you been to Dave's? There's one over in Ohio City near the West Side Market. That might be the ticket.

And on another note, besides the Westside market, where is a general, good quality, all purpose grocery store?  Where I'm from, those stores were called Dillon's, Kroger, or Hy-Vee.  However, I have yet to see anything around where I live.

 

Yeah, try Dave's in Ohio City. Pretty much your general-type grocery store and a stone's throw from the Westside Market

 

http://search.cityguide.aol.com/cleveland/entertainment/daves-supermarket/v-105380182/map

 

 

Update, and more advice/recommendations requested.  I was about to start a new thread, but wasn't sure what category to put it in.  So, I'm using the old standby.

 

So far, so good.  I'm enjoying my early stay around Cleveland.  I don't know where much anything is, so I find myself driving around a lot, until I find whatever it is I'm looking for.  I've been to downtown a handful of times, but it looks like a mess.  Construction, horrible traffic, no parking, etc., etc.  While it'd be great to live there, I'm extremely happy I don't.  All the little things that get on my nerves would get to me!  I've been around Tremont a lot.  I've visited University Inn, Southside, La Bodega, and Luckys, and I've barely scratched the surface of what's out there.  I hope to take in a few more restaurants and bars this week since I have some more free time.

 

And on another note, besides the Westside market, where is a general, good quality, all purpose grocery store?  Where I'm from, those stores were called Dillon's, Kroger, or Hy-Vee.  However, I have yet to see anything around where I live.

 

Finally, on to more serious matters.  Can anyone recommend a good dentist (and/or endontist)?  One that takes time to explain what's going on, does a meticulously good job with good bedside/chairside manner, and is also well skilled?  Long story short, I received some questionable dental work before I moved here, and now, I'm literally in pain paying for it.  So, after some serious research and talking to a recent dental school grad, it looks like I'm going to need someone to repair the problems (i.e. cavity => root canal => crown).  If anyone can help, please post or private message me.  Thanks again!

 

Daves on the westside and the soon to be open WalMart in Steel yard commons could be options, someone on the board will have more options.

 

I would suggest asking your old dentist to recommend a dentist in Cleveland.  This way records can be transfered and most likely under your insurance policy you will need a reference to go to the new dentist.  thats how it worked for me.

"... the soon to be open WalMart in Steel yard commons could be options,"

 

No. Just. no. There will be plenty of people supporting that place, let's steer the revenue where it's needed.