Posted May 2, 200718 yr My friends and I are going to the Indians vs. Blue Jays game tomorrow night at the Jake. Would we be better off driving downtown to find a parking spot near the stadium, or parking in a suburban "park and ride" and taking the Rapid into downtown? I don't know what the parking situation is like at Jacobs Field, but I'm used to downtown Columbus where parking is the one thing we have too much of :-( Thanks in advance for any advice.
May 2, 200718 yr How much do you want to pay? I have never parked for an Indians game because I don't want to sit in traffic on my way out. If I would park, I'd park about 10 blocks away so that I could miss the traffic and pay lower prices. I work just outside of a lot that charges $10. It is about 5 blocks away from the ballpark. Take RTA. Its more fun.
May 2, 200718 yr ^ Which line should I take? Red? Is there a convenient "park and ride" lot at any of the outer Rapid stations?
May 2, 200718 yr Where are you coming from? There are many convenient park and rides. If you're coming from Columbus, I'd exit 71 at the West 150th exit. The rapid station and parking lot are directly adjacent to this exit. Take the redline straight to Tower City and then you can walk the tunnel to Jacobs Field. Are you familiar with the pedestrian tunnel connector?
May 2, 200718 yr Where are you coming from? There are many convenient park and rides. If you're coming from Columbus, I'd exit 71 at the West 150th exit. The rapid station and parking lot are directly adjacent to this exit. Take the redline straight to Tower City and then take the tunnel to Jacobs Field. don't take the tunnel. If you want to see Cleveland, WALK on the outside on teh Street. This is why I hate that damn tunnel! It stops people from walking on the streets around E. 4/Gateway or TowerCity. IMO, The tunnel should only be used in inclement weather!
May 2, 200718 yr *Ahem* inclement weather :-) I agree - take the Red Line to Tower City, and then exit to Public Square and walk to Ontario Avenue and then to the field. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
May 2, 200718 yr *Ahem* inclement weather :-) I agree - take the Red Line to Tower City, and then exit to Public Square and walk to Ontario Avenue and then to the field. thats what I get for typing so fast and not proof reading! :oops: :type: :oops:
May 2, 200718 yr awesome! Yes we will be coming up I-71 from Columbus. Sounds like the Rapid is the way to go. I'm a big public transportation dork, so I'm all about riding the train.
May 2, 200718 yr Access to the Rapid station from I-71 is tricky. The reason is that the entrance to the Rapid station and the southbound ramps to I-71 is one and the same. The signage also leaves a lot to be desired. You may want to print these instructions and take them with you: + Exit I-71 at West 150th Street. + Get in the left lane of the two left-turn lanes. + Turn left onto West 150th and go under the highway. + Get in the left lane on West 150th. + Turn left at the next traffic light onto the access road for the Rapid station and the I-71 soutbound ramp. + Stay to the right on the access road to go straight ahead into the Rapid station. Fare is $1.75 each way per person. Consider getting a Day Pass for $3.50 so you don't have to fish for change on the way back from the game. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 3, 200718 yr don't take the tunnel. If you want to see Cleveland, WALK on the outside on teh Street. This is why I hate that damn tunnel! It stops people from walking on the streets around E. 4/Gateway or TowerCity. IMO, The tunnel should only be used in inclement weather! i hate when then tunnel is only open during sporting events. Hey, sometimes I'm in tower city in the middle of winter, and I need to head in that direction.
May 4, 200718 yr Too bad only 16,000 were in attendance. C'mon Tribe fans! The team's in first place and on a roll. Well, we're on the road now. Hopefully fans will turn out when the team comes back... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 4, 200718 yr Yeah it was a great game, but I'm a Reds fan so I couldn't really enjoy it. Two of my buddies that I went with are Jays fans (one's a canuck the other is from Upstate NY) so we had a good time just ragging on them and yelling "SWEEP" all night long :-D. I was suprised that there weren't many Tribes fans in the stands, but the ones that showed up were loud and rowdy which is good. Unfortunately my friends aren't as keen on public transportation as I am so they nixed the Rapid idea. We wound up parking in one of the garages next to The Q then headed over to the Thirsty Parrot for some pre-game boozing and ended the night at Panini's.
May 4, 200718 yr Next time, tell them to get their butts out of the car and on the train! Or to drop you off at the station and you'll meet them downtown. Hoped they liked burning $3.20 gas. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 4, 200718 yr Next time, tell them to get their butts out of the car and on the train! Or to drop you off at the station and you'll meet them downtown. Hoped they liked burning $3.20 gas. Plus the cost of parking.
May 4, 200718 yr Unfortunately my friends aren't as keen on public transportation as I am so they nixed the Rapid idea. We wound up parking in one of the garages next to The Q. Typical Americans (you're friends, that is). We're a nation that's "not to keen on public transit" which is why our cities are sprawling the way they are compared to those of Europe & Japan... maybe next time you can convince them to ride the Rapid... for Browns games, there is no choice. People from down Columbus way are forced to use the Red Line lest they want to spend hours of aggravation and $$ in traffic... Unless, of course, you're tailgating, in which case time won't be of the essence anyway...
May 4, 200718 yr OK, I'll say it... Your friends were simply doing what Columbusites do -- avoiding transit! Stark Area Regional Transit Authority (Canton) carries more riders than does COTA. Not good. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 4, 200718 yr To be fair, no one on this trip grew up in Columbus, they're all from smaller towns (Fremont, OH; Auburn, NY; and Deer Lake, Newfoundland) so I think that's what contributed to their anti-public transportation sentiment. Plus a lot of "road pops" were consumed on the trip up, so I'm kind of glad I didn't have to baby-sit their drunk asses on the train.
May 4, 200718 yr I rode on a redline train with people that had some "pre train" pops. That ride was interesting and comical to say the least. And damn even Canton is beasting Columbus on mass transit :-o
May 5, 200718 yr OK, I'll say it... Your friends were simply doing what Columbusites do -- avoiding transit! Stark Area Regional Transit Authority (Canton) carries more riders than does COTA. Not good. Yes, because the rest of Ohio's cities are meccas of well-run, high ridership transit, right? "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 5, 200718 yr I'm sure Kings Mill can claim that with the legendary Kings Mill Railroad connecting Boomerang Bay with Rivertown. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 5, 200718 yr since we're on the topic of trains.....i saw your mother last night. Oh no he didn't.............
May 5, 200718 yr since we're on the topic of trains.....i saw your mother last night. Oh no he didn't............. Oh yes he did......... but as Wendy Williams says, "put that where?"
May 5, 200718 yr I miss her, her chainsaw and her shaving cream. RIP Wendy Orleans Williams. Yes, because the rest of Ohio's cities are meccas of well-run, high ridership transit, right? No, because Columbus residents don't seem to consider transit, whether that's a fault of COTA's route system/services, the small amount of land use designed around transit, or that Columbus has the lowest percentage of households without a car among Ohio's eight largest cities. Comprende my original point?? You sure Columbus isn't your mother? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 5, 200718 yr I miss her, her chainsaw and her shaving cream. RIP Wendy Orleans Williams. Yes, because the rest of Ohio's cities are meccas of well-run, high ridership transit, right? No, because Columbus residents don't seem to consider transit, whether that's a fault of COTA's route system/services, the small amount of land use designed around transit, or that Columbus has the lowest percentage of households without a car among Ohio's eight largest cities. Comprende my original point?? You sure Columbus isn't your mother? KJP...LOL. two different wendy's LOL. I'm talking about the self proclaimed "queen of all media"
May 5, 200718 yr I miss her, her chainsaw and her shaving cream. RIP Wendy Orleans Williams. Yes, because the rest of Ohio's cities are meccas of well-run, high ridership transit, right? No, because Columbus residents don't seem to consider transit, whether that's a fault of COTA's route system/services, the small amount of land use designed around transit, or that Columbus has the lowest percentage of households without a car among Ohio's eight largest cities. Comprende my original point?? You sure Columbus isn't your mother? Yet you are comparing a city of 220 sq miles (majority of it suburban) to smaller, relatively poorer (exception Cincinnati) cities and base percentages on a whole 740k. I'm not saying COTA is perfect (it's generally bad, except for the route I take to work) but to generalize Columbusites as a whole COMING FROM a region that isn't exactly spectacular in transit either and has a population that views The Rapid as either for A). blacks B). poor or C). baseball, if downtown gets crowded (as shown by John's point with his friends). Basically, don't throw stones in a glass house, particularly if the house is a duckbill double. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 5, 200718 yr Basically, don't throw stones in a glass house, particularly if the house is a duckbill double. lmao
May 5, 200718 yr My Canadian friend lived his whole life without a drivers license, that is until he moved to Columbus. He went to college in St. John's, Newfoundland, then moved to Calgary where he rode the train to work, then moved to Windsor where he took the bus from Windsor to his job in downtown Detroit. Once he moved to car-centric Columbus he had to learn how to drive. :-(
May 5, 200718 yr Yet you are comparing a city of 220 sq miles (majority of it suburban) to smaller, relatively poorer (exception Cincinnati) cities and base percentages on a whole 740k. You and I may not like some of the reasons why one Ohio city is more transit oriented than another, but the fact is they are. You pointing out that Columbus is mostly suburban only underscores my point. COTA has no 24-hour bus services, many routes not operating on weekends, and those that do run on weekdays operate only hourly. Nearly 10 percent of the 380,000 residents in Stark County are below the poverty line. In Franklin County, it's 12 percent of 1.1 million residents. Now, why again does Stark County have a higher transit ridership? Because it's more transit oriented, for the reasons we've both mentioned (better transit service, a history of consistently available transit service, more transit-oriented land use, connectivity with other transit systems--such as Akron Metro, and other factors). But the number of low-income people is not the reason. If that was a driving factor, Columbus would be much more transit-oriented. This isn't throwing a rock in a glass house. While no Ohio city has anything more than an average transit system or transit-supportive community, Columbus is probably among the most transit-apathetic or outright transit-hostile major city in the United States (metro Detroit is certainly up there too). When the city's working poor won't/can't take transit in Columbus, that is worth using a catapault to throw some boulders at your community's leaders' houses. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 5, 200718 yr You and I may not like some of the reasons why one Ohio city is more transit oriented than another, but the fact is they are. You pointing out that Columbus is mostly suburban only underscores my point. COTA has no 24-hour bus services, many routes not operating on weekends, and those that do run on weekdays operate only hourly. Again, did I ever praise COTA? Ever? Nearly 10 percent of the 380,000 residents in Stark County are below the poverty line. In Franklin County, it's 12 percent of 1.1 million residents. Now, why again does Stark County have a higher transit ridership? Because it's more transit oriented, for the reasons we've both mentioned (better transit service, a history of consistently available transit service, more transit-oriented land use, connectivity with other transit systems--such as Akron Metro, and other factors). But the number of low-income people is not the reason. If that was a driving factor, Columbus would be much more transit-oriented. The only reason Stark County is "ahead" of Franklin County is the reason of it having better bus services. I don't buy the "it has more transit oriented land use" as NO Ohio city has a good example of transit-oriented land use except the older 1920's-30's-era areas (Shaker Square, Tower City, Mariemont, Glendale, etc). Again, comparing Stark, Franklin, Cuyahoga, Hamilton, Montgomery, Summit, Lucas, etc is like the Germans comparing Auschwitz to Bergen-Belsen and Hinzert on having the best concentration camp. They are all negative but justifying one over the other is quite ridiculous. Bottom line is, NO ONE IN THIS STATE SHOULD TALK about having "better transit service" or whatever to belittle another region. Now, if this state had New York, Chicago, or even Oakland, then fine. But it doesn't. This isn't throwing a rock in a glass house. While no Ohio city has anything more than an average transit system or transit-supportive community, Columbus is probably among the most transit-apathetic or outright transit-hostile major city in the United States (metro Detroit is certainly up there too). When the city's working poor won't/can't take transit in Columbus, that is worth using a catapault to throw some boulders at your community's leaders' houses. The majority of Columbus' poor ARE along bus routes and if you lived in Columbus, you'd see that. It is the middle-class areas and "richer" areas that lack adequate service and perhaps bring the ridership down to absurdity. And again, while anyone with a brain can acknowledge that Columbus isn't exactly the greatest transit city in the world, AGAIN, no one from this state should be belittling anyone. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 6, 200718 yr You felt "belittled?" Wow. Now I see why you took such a defensive response to my message about Columbus (the message wasn't about you!). But I stand by what I said. And I will say it again. Sorry chief. And let's not use concentration camp metaphors to compare transit systems. That's over the top. See you on another thread. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 6, 200718 yr It needed to be "over the top" to get the point across bluntly. And I wasn't personally "belittled" but simply saw a person from City A. "belittling" City B. Nothing personal (never is) but I stand by what I said (metaphor and all) and I would/will say it again. Now let's continue with the thread as it is about John and his friends. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 8, 200718 yr Let's just say the low-lights of the evening were: Having Section 125 at Jacob's Field adopt our drunken Canadian friend by helping us keep track of him with updated reports on where in the concorse he was and how close he was to passing out whenever someone returned from a piss break. Watching "Mr. Fremont" puke over the guardrail at the I-71/US-30 exit after being punched in the balls for talking about another friend's hot sister. "Mr. New York", wearing a Blue Jays jersey and circa-1986 Top Gun sunglasses (at 1:00am), whipping out his man-garbage in front of everyone and pissing on the front of the van while the guy he punched in the balls puked on US-30. Watching "Mr. Akron" try to stumble out of the back of the van only to fall head first onto the pavement at the Goasis gas station in Lodi. "Mr. New York" helping recover "Mr. Akron's" flip-flops which had flown off his feet during the fall from the van by throwing them at his head while he lie injured in the Goasis parking lot. (I laughed my ass off because I believe all grown men who wear flip-flops should be beaten to death with said footwear) Can't wait for our trip down to Cincy for the Reds-Indians series :|
May 8, 200718 yr Let's just say the low-lights of the evening were: Having Section 125 at Jacob's Field adopt our drunken Canadian friend by helping us keep track of him with updated reports on where in the concorse he was and how close he was to passing out whenever someone returned from a piss break. Watching "Mr. Fremont" puke over the guardrail at the I-71/US-30 exit after being punched in the balls for talking about another friend's hot sister. "Mr. New York", wearing a Blue Jays jersey and circa-1986 Top Gun sunglasses (at 1:00am), whipping out his man-garbage in front of everyone and pissing on the front of the van while the guy he punched in the balls puked on US-30. Watching "Mr. Akron" try to stumble out of the back of the van only to fall head first onto the pavement at the Goasis gas station in Lodi. "Mr. New York" helping recover "Mr. Akron's" flip-flops which had flown off his feet during the fall from the van by throwing them at his head while he lie injured in the Goasis parking lot. (I laughed my ass off because I believe all grown men who wear flip-flops should be beaten to death with said footwear) Can't wait for our trip down to Cincy for the Reds-Indians series :| Umm....I don't know whats worse, you writing this or us reading...and me responding! :? :? A grown man falls out of a van and loses a pump. I hate flip flops...Prada and Paul Smith included! Anyone in FFs should be stoned! A grown man punches another grown man in balls. That sounds really gay...really really gay and not in a fabulous way! Maybe your posse, is the reason the tribe is struggling with attendance, thus far this season.
May 8, 200718 yr Dude, it's just one grown man touching another grown man's balls so don't get so uptight! :wink: In the NY guy's defense it wasn't a full-blown punch, more of a backhanded smack for his sister's honor and he didn't mean to hit him in the junk....he was aiming for the taint.
May 8, 200718 yr Dude, it's just one grown man touching another grown man's balls so don't get so uptight! :wink: In the NY guy's defense it wasn't a full-blown punch, more of a backhanded smack for his sister's honor and he didn't mean to hit him in the junk....he was aiming for the taint. Uptight? I'm so far from uptight especially when it comes to men touching each other. :laugh: :wink:
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