^ Haha. Too bad even that picture is now outdated (where's the touchscreen?). I have an MP3 player, but I'm a dinosaur for having that plus a dumbphone.

I'm not giving up the clickwheel that easy; it's too dangerous to skip tracks if you have to stare at a screen to do it while running. And the phone is too big and expensive to be useful while doing jock-y stuff.

My clickwheel iPod died a year ago, when a bottle of beer leaked in my bag. I replaced it with a $25 Sansa Clip thingamabob, which takes microSD cards (4GB internal). Only complaint is that it takes a long time to reload a large SD card if you fully power it down (gotta keep it in sleep mode), but it's tiny, practically weightless, holds a lot of music, expandable storage, works great.

DO NOT get the old-style iPods wet, that's for sure.

Ha...I am older than most on here and I recognize  more than a few bands, but I listen to a lot of music.  You touched on something interesting in that this festival needs to decide what it wants to be.  Midpoint is a great festival that brings truly indie bands to the city each year. 

 

This has been a mix of indie, alt, and bands that have moved to pop (although they likely started as alt.  While I would prefer a show with the Pixies, Pavement, Afghan Whigs, and even somebody like Death Cab every year that is not going to happen.  I also can appreciate a festival that has Flaming Lips and bands like Young the Giant and Wild Cub and even Hunter Hunted (who does a nice Pixies cover). 

 

I will say that each year I have had a great time as it is great to be out by the river in the summer with a bunch of friends.  The set up allows easy access to see which bands you want and socialize (and drink) if you want - I just like seeing live music though. 

 

I'm past the age of recognizing a significant number of bands in a festival line-up, haha.

 

I love the Flaming Lips, though. Veruca Salt is still around?

 

Midpoint is clearly the better local festival. Bonnaroo and Pitchfork are close enough that, if I were interested in going to a summer festival, I probably wouldn't consider Bunbury. They've had GBV and the Flaming Lips, though, so it's not all terrible (but Pitchfork has like 10 bands of that caliber every year). It's not really an indie festival, it's not a pop festival...they either need to hammer down an identity or go broader. I think they could benefit from adding some EDM and alternative hip-hop.

Music isn't over, but the album is. I try not to be crotchety about it, but it does bother me. I don't like mixes and singles, with the exception of a well-choreographed mixtape.

Music isn't over, but the album is. I try not to be crotchety about it, but it does bother me. I don't like mixes and singles, with the exception of a well-choreographed mixtape.

 

 

When I was a kid, people walked around with ghetto blasters playing confrontational music.  I remember being at King's Island around 1989 and seeing some skinny kid with a sideways floppy hat playing Public Enemy on a boom box on his shoulder, walking around back by where the line starts for The Beast.  How did he sneak that thing in?  Didn't he know he was going to get it taken away?  It was a bold display, all around, and music was the medium. 

 

Is any kid today bringing a boom box to their pickup baseball or football games at the park?  No, and if they are, whatever they're playing is weak.

 

 

>I will say that each year I have had a great time as it is great to be out by the river in the summer with a bunch of friends.  The set up allows easy access to see which bands you want and socialize (and drink) if you want - I just like seeing live music though. 

 

I agree, it's a pretty good location for a festival, with plenty of places to get out of the sun.  The Atlanta Shaky Knees festival has moved to a city parking lot next to Atlantic Station.  It would be like going to a music festival at Broadway Commons, before the casino.   

 

Music isn't over, but the album is. I try not to be crotchety about it, but it does bother me. I don't like mixes and singles, with the exception of a well-choreographed mixtape.

Music isn't over, but the album is. I try not to be crotchety about it, but it does bother me. I don't like mixes and singles, with the exception of a well-choreographed mixtape.

 

 

When I was a kid, people walked around with ghetto blasters playing confrontational music.  I remember being at King's Island around 1989 and seeing some skinny kid with a sideways floppy hat playing Public Enemy on a boom box on his shoulder, walking around back by where the line starts for The Beast.  How did he sneak that thing in?  Didn't he know he was going to get it taken away?  It was a bold display, all around, and music was the medium. 

 

Is any kid today bringing a boom box to their pickup baseball or football games at the park?  No, and if they are, whatever they're playing is weak.

 

 

The late '90s to mid-2000s made people leave music. Look at what was big:

 

nu-metal: fist-wailing dumb rock about crappy childhoods aimed directly at overweight trailer park teens

 

modern rock: aimed directly at overweight giant SUV-driving divorced women in their 40s. Nickelback.

 

boy bands: not even Pop since it sold poorly to anyone except girls under 16. Easily grown out of.

 

mainstream rap that went too far: mostly focused on spending money, the rap of the time got very boring and predictable. Again with the trailer park teens.

 

emo: depressing breakup music only. easily grown out of.

 

nu-country: aimed at the same overweight forty-something divorcees as modern rock; those women were the most important consumers of music throughout the decade rather the young, cool people the industry courted for the previous 50+ years. Young edgy people don't like to be ignored, but this genre did it.

 

None of this music was aimed at thinkers or trendsetters and made anyone remotely enigmatic barf. You need cool people buying and listening to music. I think music made it back OK, but it is a lot more electronic since the rock was so bad for so long. But the main problem with music is that it has no visuals on its own and therefore doesn't provide the constant visual stimulation young people demand today.

Ehh, there was a lot of good stuff going on then. Modest Mouse, Flaming Lips (reinventing themselves awesomely), and the Elephant 6 bands, to name a few. Indie was hitting its stride, really, and the blogs and hipsters hadn't done their damage to it yet.

But it didn't take over. The bands making good stuff have to be really big or it doesn't count.

Start watching in the fifth minute:

 

Plus, I'd bet this chick was valedictorian of her hight school but did every drug by sophomore year. 

I'd like to go to a tractor pull with her.

I think the whole boom box thing was more about a techno fad than anything to do with music. At some point people realized that lugging those things around & keeping batteries charged was just a PITA.

That & you were pretty much just broadcasting, "rip me off rip me off".

Sorry that this thread is the "Travis promotes his band" thread. Except not really.

 

We are playing at Stanley's with Pike 27 on Saturday. Come check out beautiful Columbia-Tusculum!

 

https://www.facebook.com/events/1468936333335048/

I like Stanley's.

I like Stanley's.

I remember watching Dave Brown walk down the bar, jamming on guitar there.

Bunbury Music Fest adds 4 bands, including headliner

 

The alt-rock Bunbury Music Festival, set for July 11-13 at Sawyer Point and Yeatman's Cove, has announced its remaining headliner, Empire of the Sun, and three additional acts: Cage the Elephant, Dead Sara and The Black Cadillacs.

 

Bunbury also revealed the schedule for the weekend.

 

Cont

Bill Donabedian was a guest on the most recent "OTR Podcast" and provided a lot of great insight on the festival. He talks quite a bit about how they choose bands. Essentially, Bunbury picks bands that are not playing any other dates in the Midwest, and bands that are up-and-coming (i.e., cheap) but they expect to become bigger in the near future. They also get some artists as part of package deals -- for example, Fall Out Boy, Paramore, and New Politics were already on tour together, so it was inexpensive to add Bunbury as another stop on their tour.

 

He also talks smack about Forecastle, saying that they are making a mistake by booking more expensive bands, making the tickets more expensive and making it much harder for the festival to make a profit.

 

Finally, he talks about how the Buckle Up festival is helping to spread out the infrastructure costs so they can spend more on artists and promotion. (Many of their rentals are monthly, so there was not much additional cost to keeping everything in place and holding a second festival the following weekend.) He also hints that he has several other festival ideas which will be added in future years.

 

http://otrpod.libsyn.com/bill-donabedian-of-bunbury-and-buckle-up-music-festival

Many of these festivals force bands to sign contracts agreeing not to play anywhere else in the region for the time preceding the festival and for a year or more after, and within a prescribed radius.  Lollapalooza in Chicago has a "zone" that extends as far as Detroit. 

While Lollapalooza has a pretty large radius clause (6 months before and 3 months after the festival within 300 miles of Grant Park) they apparently wave that for just about any acts if they ask (obviously they would say no to a headliner's show in Chicago or Milwaukee leading up to the festival). http://www.wbez.org/blogs/jim-derogatis/2012-04/new-lollapalooza-deal-blown-opportunity-98257

 

The article states that most other music festivals (Coachella, Bonnaroo, Pitchfork, etc) have radius clauses that last several weeks around the festival.

 

Is Lallapalooza's radius clause excessive? Yes. But I highly doubt festivals like Bunbury have large non-compete radii. They just don't want the headliners playing Indianapolis, Dayton, Columbus, and Louisville leading up to the festival. I think it's reasonable.

^A lot of artists that play Coachella do smaller, quasi underground shows in LA the week before, between, or after the festival weekends.

Many of these festivals force bands to sign contracts agreeing not to play anywhere else in the region for the time preceding the festival and for a year or more after, and within a prescribed radius.  Lollapalooza in Chicago has a "zone" that extends as far as Detroit. 

 

It doesn't sound like Bunbury has a strict radius, but he did mention one example of choosing not to book a band because they were playing somewhere on the east coast within a few weeks of the show. He also mentioned that many of the bands are only playing a handful of dates across in the US this entire year. The result is that people have come from all 50 states, and other countries, to attend Bunbury and see particular bands.

Thanks for posting this!  I thought this was very insightful and helps give a good perspective on the festival.  Imgagine Dragons (which he specifically discusses) and Grouplove were the first two acts I thought of on the "buy early and cheap with the expectation they will get bigger by the time of the festival" philosophy.  I think Morning Parade and obviously Young the Giant are building some steam for this year.  I also liked the explanation around Empire of the Sun, which seemed like an eclectic choice.

 

Bill Donabedian was a guest on the most recent "OTR Podcast" and provided a lot of great insight on the festival. He talks quite a bit about how they choose bands. Essentially, Bunbury picks bands that are not playing any other dates in the Midwest, and bands that are up-and-coming (i.e., cheap) but they expect to become bigger in the near future. They also get some artists as part of package deals -- for example, Fall Out Boy, Paramore, and New Politics were already on tour together, so it was inexpensive to add Bunbury as another stop on their tour.

 

He also talks smack about Forecastle, saying that they are making a mistake by booking more expensive bands, making the tickets more expensive and making it much harder for the festival to make a profit.

 

Finally, he talks about how the Buckle Up festival is helping to spread out the infrastructure costs so they can spend more on artists and promotion. (Many of their rentals are monthly, so there was not much additional cost to keeping everything in place and holding a second festival the following weekend.) He also hints that he has several other festival ideas which will be added in future years.

 

http://otrpod.libsyn.com/bill-donabedian-of-bunbury-and-buckle-up-music-festival

geez, I couldn't even find a thread for the Cincinnati Symphony :wtf:, but if anyone cares, they're appearing tonight at Carnegie Hall, along with the May Festival Chorus, and it will be broadcast live on WQXR in New York if anyone cares to tune in:

http://www.wqxr.org/#!/story/cincinnati-symphony-plays-john-adams-and-dett-oratorio/?utm_source=local&utm_media=treatment&utm_campaign=carousel&utm_content=item0

MPMF (September 25-27) released the first round of artists last week.

 

Below is the list:

 

The Afghan Whigs • Panda Bear • Real Estate • The Raveonettes • Sun Kil Moon • Tycho • Deafheaven • St. Paul & the Broken Bones • Ex Hex • July Talk • EMA • The Cave Singers • Gardens & Villa • Rubblebucket • Speedy Ortiz • Barrence Whitfield & the Savages • Milagres • Ex-Cult • Landlady • Low Cut Connie • The Tontons • Cheerleader • Miniature Tigers

 

There is also the Indie Summer Series for free every Friday on Fountain Square starting May 30th.

 

Some of the highlights include WHY?, Local H, and MAN MAN.

Auburnaires, July 3, MOTR

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8AlLojuh5I

 

Airport Marriott July 16-19

wth is this? lol

Vent Haven Museum looks pretty cool but I have yet to go there. Probably give me nightmares for life....

http://venthavenmuseum.com/

It's in Ft Mitchell & tours are by appointment. I didn't know they had conventions.

Ed Fitzgerald will be marching in the parade this year. It will be sandwiched in between R n' R carnival dates of the 3rd & 5th

http://citybeat.com/cincinnati/blog-5755-ed_fitzgerald_to_walk_in_northside_fourth_of_july_parade.html

Here's what you need to know about the Northside 3rd, 4th & 5th of July festivities.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9yTY502zQ95WHdmbmlpNGhtSDA/edit

Looks like the next congressman representing the OH 1st district will be attending - or, maybe just his minions, too.

New wave of bands announced. http://mpmf.com/bands

 

Headliners: Afghan Whigs, OK Go, Chromeo

 

Full list of acts announced this time around:

 

OK Go • Wussy • Joseph Arthur • WHY? • Dessa • Liturgy • Lost In The Trees • Earth • Empires • Maserati • Coves • Body Language • Kid Congo Powers and Pink Monkey Birds • Froth • Blues Control • Gizmo • The Appleseed Collective • All Them Witches • Across Tundras • Ancient Warfare • Mr. Elevator and the Brain Hotel • Drowners • Corners • Bailiff • Dresses • Mustered Courage • Lab Partners • Love X Stereo • Buffalo Clover • Quiet Life • Caroline Glaser • The Ghost Wolves • Pujol • Shivering Timbers • Good Graeff • Public • Parallels • Heavy Hinges • The Ridges • Darlene • Holy Ghost Tent Revival • Young Heirlooms • Moonbow • Automagik • Wild Leaves • Steelism • Modoc • Pop Goes The Evil • Fort Wilson Riot • Smasherman • Jeecy and The Jungle • Prim • Alpha Consumer • Arum Rae • Apache Dropout • Electric Citizen

Well those are some incredibly lame band names.  Earth?  Doesn't Earth know that Ozzy Osborne had to change the name of his band Earth (to Black Sabbath) since there was already a band named Earth?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath#Formation_and_early_days_.281968.E2.80.9369.29

fyi, they didn't have to change their name. They chose to because playing shows in England they realized they were getting confused with the other band. No one will confuse this Earth with the 1969 English band that didn't go anywhere.

Still a couple days left

http://www.venthavenconvention.com/

But, wait - aren't they all dead?

yup

"The Spring Grove Heritage Foundation will host 'An Afternoon with the Beer Barons' event from 4P to 7P. Spring Grove is honored to welcome the Christian Moerlein Brewing Co., Madtree Brewing Co., Rhinegeist Brewing Co., and Rivertown Brewing Co. who will provide samples of their most popular and unique beers."

 

http://www.springgrove.org/events/event-details.aspx?id=404&title=An+Afternoon+With+The+Beer+Barons

 

Says there will be tours. I'm assuming to the grave sites of beer barons. I found one of them recently, without looking. I think it was Hauck, not sure. Big sculpture right on one of the roads; hard to miss if you're on foot nearby.

They have sheets listing notable corpses with their location info & they have maps showing the different areas in the front office.

You can also search online using their "find a loved one" thingie.

The cemetery historian os Phil Nuxhall. He might have some interesting poo for the tours.

I'm hoping to go, natininja[/member] will you be there in a ninja outfit?

My superior agility and stealth allow me to be in all places at all times. I'll be there, but good luck finding me!

Actually,  since I noticed the $40 price tag, I won't be there.

I will look for you rappelling from a hovering black helicopter, tho.

Grammer's will not be a stage this year.

 

Instead, an outside tent will be set up outside of the Christian Moerlein Malt House at 1619 Moore Street (by the Shell Station).

 

Headliners at the Moerlein Malt House will be Panda Bear, Tycho, and The Raveonettes.

 

Venues Confirmed:

 

Washington Park

Christian Moerlein Malt House

Taft Theater

Mainstay

MOTR

The Drinkery

Memorial Hall

Know Theater

CAC

Mr. Pitiful's

Arnold's

 

Sadly it looks like Below Zero Lounge will no longer be a venue. Also the Japp's Annex and Blue Wisp (obviously) appear to not be venues this year.

Where is info posted on those other venues?  I never saw the announcement on Memorial Hall (which would be awesome btw).

 

Still wish the old Emery would get out of petty political hell, would love to see a concert there again :(

Still wish the old Emery would get out of petty political hell, would love to see a concert there again :(

 

Write letters to UC explaining your displeasure with them holding it all up. It's frustrating that they are letting ECALP/ECC do what they are doing with the theatre.

Where is info posted on those other venues?  I never saw the announcement on Memorial Hall (which would be awesome btw).

 

Still wish the old Emery would get out of petty political hell, would love to see a concert there again :(

 

I agree about the Emery.

 

http://mpmf.com/festival/venues

Ooooh, that's been updated thanks :).  Memorial Hall is going to be amazing, I hope midpoint keeps growing at a steady clip so Music Hall could be considered a spot.

 

Write letters to UC explaining your displeasure with them holding it all up. It's frustrating that they are letting ECALP/ECC do what they are doing with the theatre.

 

I sent a tweet to Santa Ono, mentioning that I was an alum.  Writing a letter is a good idea, especially since UC is my alma mater, I'll probably do that next.

I find it interesting that Japp’s isn’t going to be a venue anymore. I assume they figure they’ll make more money by serving the crowd that comes to OTR but isn’t into indie music. I think it’s a telltale sign of how much that small area has changed over just the course of a few years.

 

I wonder why Grammer’s isn’t going to host this year? That place is a potential gold mine, it’s such a shame it’s still shuttered. It could be very popular if run well.

 

As for Moerlein, I have no problem with the outdoor stage there but the interior is awful for acoustics.

 

^ I think that Neon's was involved with MidPoint one year and they sold merch there and had acoustic bands play. There was no cover to get in. I imagine they figured they will make more money having a dance party instead of a band. And it takes place on Final Friday, so a lot of people will come down and not even know what MPMF is.

Yeah I remember when Neons was a venue, that was back when it was kind of a hipstery bar as well, it changed fast.

 

Japps I'm surprised by as well, they had a cool thing going there in the past, where every kind of quirky retro band (like the guys that did Doo Wop, or the ragtime band with raunchy lyrics) seemed to pop up.

Haha, I'd like to see that raunchy Ragtime band. Like when you hear the cave music from Mario 2 on a real piano it sounds like a strip joint in 1907.

^-Wish I could remember their name, it was really funny stuff, but still kind of a novelty.

 

They were like bros talking about "getting wasted and picking up chicks" but with a very "hot-diggity" language, really funny stuff.

MPMF has released the schedule (with a few more spots still to be filled):

 

http://cincymusic.com/news/2014/08/mpmf-14-schedule-released