April 25, 20196 yr 12 hours ago, Lucas_uLsac said: $2.5 million for the DAAP Annex? Is it just me or is that a really low budget for a building of this apparent size? Unless it's going to be a fancy Amazon warehouse esque building with curtains for walls. 44 minutes ago, SleepyLeroy said: Yep i believe in the RFP they called it a steel pole barn or words to that effect. This makes sense. Emersion is kinda known for doing "architected" looking work on low budgets.
April 25, 20196 yr UC to invest nearly $98 million in 3 new projects The University of Cincinnati is moving forward with three projects that will add classroom space and are expected to be a total investment of $97.5 million. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/04/25/uc-to-invest-nearly-98-million-in-3-new-projects.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 25, 20196 yr On 4/24/2019 at 1:39 PM, 513to424 said: "Just north of DAAP" ?? Do they mean south? The site is northwest of DAAP, across Clifton.
April 25, 20196 yr There is a big opportunity with this Clifton Court Building to right a wrong: Create a 4-way intersection at Joselin and Clifton. Change the McMicken Arc so that it hits Clifton at Joselin instead of where it does not, and then have Clifton Court terminate into the newly aligned McMicken Arc. Add crosswalks and medians where turn lanes aren't needed. This stretch of Clifton seems like a hit pedestrian waiting to happen.
May 13, 20196 yr According to latest planning commission packet, the DAAP annex is NOT going on the corner, instead it will sit back further west and will have to access it from riddle road. The old tri-health building will become........a surface lot. https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/planning/about-city-planning/city-planning-commission/may-17-2019-packet/
May 13, 20196 yr UC spent how long and how much money trying to eliminate surface lots from main campus? You think they would have learned some sort of lesson from that...
May 19, 20196 yr UC gets approval to convert former church, build new DAAP studio The University of Cincinnati on Friday got approval to overhaul a key Uptown parcel in the southwest corner of Martin Luther King Jr. Drive and Clifton Avenue to build a new studio for its School of Design, Architecture, Art and Planning and convert a former church to classrooms. The former Second Church of Christ Scientist at 2839 Clifton Ave. will be renovated into an auditorium space seating more than 330, as well as classroom space. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/05/17/uc-gets-approval-to-convert-former-church-build.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 22, 20196 yr UC seeks design architect for $86.5 million building The University of Cincinnati is looking for an architect to design a new, $86.5 million classroom building on its Uptown campus. UC’s board of trustees voted on April 23 to move forward with Clifton Court Hall, a 180,000-square-foot classroom building planned where two modular structures stand at Clifton Avenue and Clifton Court Drive. UC sent out a request for qualifications for design architect for the new project on May 21. The new building would provide classrooms for McMicken College of Arts and Sciences and the College of Engineering and Applied Science as well as shared space for interdisciplinary programs involving other colleges. It’s expected to hold 24 classrooms as well as about 230 faculty and staff offices. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/05/22/uc-seeks-design-architect-for-86-5-million.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 23, 20196 yr Interesting note from that. Quote The request for qualifications said site must flow pedestrian traffic toward nearby campus buildings, provide new entries to Clifton Court Hall away from Clifton Avenue and allow for a potential separate project to realign Clifton Court Drive.
July 26, 20195 yr Author UC reveals fall semester changes to Uptown campuses, opening dates for new buildings By Mitchell Parton – Intern, Cincinnati Business Courier The University of Cincinnati has revealed several temporary and permanent changes to its Uptown East and Uptown West campuses as well as opening dates for the new buildings of the College of Business and the College of Law. Students will begin classes in the new buildings for the Carl H. Lindner College of Business and the College of Allied Health Sciences at the start of UC’s fall semester, the university announced July 26. more
August 8, 20195 yr Get an early look inside UC’s new $120M business school The University of Cincinnati has opened the doors to the new $120 million Carl H. Lindner Hall, home of its College of Business. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/08/08/exclusive-get-an-early-look-inside-uc-s-new-120m.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
August 30, 20195 yr UC unveils $65M Health Sciences building The University of Cincinnati plans to cut the ribbon Sept. 12 on its new Health Sciences Building, a $65 million structure that’s home to the College of Allied Health Sciences. However, students have been able to check out the structure as the fall semester began this week. The four-story building at 3225 Eden Ave. includes 11 classrooms, 26 teaching labs, 130 offices and five conference rooms as well as collaboration spaces for students that feature couches, chairs and tables. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/08/30/uc-unveils-65m-health-sciencesbuilding.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 29, 20195 yr Author UC Health reveals details of largest construction project ever By Barrett J. Brunsman – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier Oct 29, 2019, 12:27pm EDT Updated 12 minutes ago Dr. Rick Lofgren, CEO of UC Health, today disclosed that the hospital system intends to undertake its largest construction project ever – hundreds of millions of dollars in upgrades to the flagship University of Cincinnati Medical Center. Work on the $221 million project dubbed “New Day” is to begin next year and be done by 2025. It will transform patient access and care across the 14-acre Clifton Campus, Lofgren said. MORE
February 26, 20205 yr UC Health names design, construction firms for $221M project The Forward project includes the expansion and renovation of the emergency department at UC Health’s flagship University of Cincinnati Medical Center and the construction of a new surgical pavilion to modernize and boost operating room capacity. UC Health's $221 million project will include adding larger and better-equipped operating rooms, renovating the Emergency Department and constructing two new medical buildings plus two new garages. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/02/26/uc-health-names-design-construction-firms-for-221m.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 26, 20205 yr ^Possibly related, I noticed there is construction fencing and heavy equipment on site at the surface parking lot adjacent to MLK and in between Burnet and Harvey. The site is owned by UC Health, but I'm not sure what their plans are for the site. Looking at the building permit for the site, it appears they might just be re-grading it. This site would be ideal for infill... so I hope that whatever grading work is done isn't merely for the sake of keeping the site surface parking forever.
March 11, 20205 yr UC selects design, construction team for $86.5 million project The University of Cincinnati has selected the design and construction team for a more than $86 million project on its Uptown campus. Messer Construction, along with partner D.A.G. Construction, will build the $86.5 million Clifton Court Hall project on UC's main campus. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/03/11/exclusive-uc-selects-design-construction-team-for.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 11, 20205 yr So...are they going to have to remove the modular buildings to build the permanent building?
March 12, 20205 yr 4 hours ago, jmecklenborg said: So...are they going to have to remove the modular buildings to build the permanent building? I believe so yes. Another article states that it’ll be 180,000 sq ft. I wonder how many floors that’ll be.
March 12, 20205 yr So...where do all of the people working and attending class in the modular buildings go?
March 12, 20205 yr I think I read that some are going into the old business building, but I thought that was slated to start in Fall as well so who knows. Also this will replace the offices in Crosley Tower.
March 12, 20205 yr The modular buildings have hosted a bunch of different schools over the last few years. When Dyer/Teacher's college was being renovated they were located there, then they moved back to their building and someone else (including business school) moved in and so forth. With the new business school finished, and Law school moving the modular structures have pretty much served their purpose.
May 25, 20205 yr 29 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said: Are they renovating Calhoun? I know that was on their list of things to do. The same with siddall. I’m assuming they may be getting an early start since no one is living in the dorms?
May 28, 20205 yr On 5/25/2020 at 11:46 AM, Ucgrad2015 said: I know that was on their list of things to do. The same with siddall. I’m assuming they may be getting an early start since no one is living in the dorms? I was on campus yesterday to pick some things up from the office and didn't notice anything with the dorms. I think they halted every capital project except ones that already started.
June 23, 20204 yr It shouldn't have been named after her in the first place... UC to rename Marge Schott Stadium The University of Cincinnati will take late Cincinnati Reds owner Marge Schott’s name off its baseball stadium because of her racist remarks. UC’s board of trustees voted unanimously Tuesday morning to remove Schott’s name. Former UC baseball player Jordan Ramey, who graduated in December, had started a petition in June to have Schott’s name removed from the stadium because of her use of racial slurs. It was signed by more than 6,000 people. UC baseball star and UC Athletics Hall of Famer Kevin Youkilis had publicly backed the request. The board also voted to remove Schott’s name from a space in UC’s archive library. “We cannot remain silent or indifferent when it comes to prejudice, hate or inequity,” UC president Neville Pinto said during the board of trustees meeting as he recommended Schott’s name be removed. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/06/23/uc-to-rename-marge-schott-stadium.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
June 23, 20204 yr Turner and Schneider Hall have construction fencing around them with dumpsters full of windows and debris. I can't tell if they're replacing ALL of the windows, or just some of them. In any case, it's not a good sign consiering they aren't yet 20 years old (I think it was finished in 2002). FWIW, KZF was the architect of record. Anybody know what went wrong? Were the windows poorly installed? Or poorly manufactured?
June 23, 20204 yr I heard that water was infiltrating behind the brick and metal panels, causing the windows to rot. They're being replaced with fiberglass windows so they won't be damaged if the wall leaks can't be adequately fixed. So I don't think there's anything wrong with the windows, they've just been getting soaked.
June 23, 20204 yr Yeah the original windows were aluminum clad wood, and were offset at the center mullion with the fixed pane sitting further into the building. UC did the Schneider Hall window replacement themselves, and had trouble with the window manufacturer getting the work done so hired GC to do Turner Hall windows. The cause was unknown, but the result was swollen windows and water bubbling under the paint in student rooms. There was also efflorescence in the brick nowhere near windows, so something tells me the window replacement won't fix the issue but just make it look nice for the students living inside. Edited June 23, 20204 yr by ucgrady
June 23, 20204 yr ^ and ^^ - thanks for the background. As a non-architect, I'm stunned by how common it is to screw up something as important as the window details (even on large, expensive projects like this). This wasn't some random outfit flipping a foreclosed house.
June 23, 20204 yr 11 minutes ago, jwulsin said: ...I'm stunned by how common it is to screw up something as important as the window details... I'm not, sadly. The details could be fine as drawn, but are screwed up in execution. In the push to lessen construction cost, substitutions are made in the field that may not be appropriate or fully thought out. Some contractors brush off architect's details and specs because "that's not how we do it." Sometimes the proper sequence of construction/assembly isn't followed because of weather or delayed supplies, so materials aren't installed with proper overlaps and seals. More often than not it seems like the workmen just plow ahead on things without checking details or properly thinking through what they're doing. "Real men don't read instructions." That's more likely with the low-bid contractor or even the C-team of top contractors, but they build a lot of stuff. Of course because of all this the architect's fees are now too high, so site visits are cut and the contractor is told not to call the architect with questions because it'll just cost more and delay the project. Go down the road a few years though, and here we are.
June 23, 20204 yr When the window shop drawings show the flashing as "by others" and the guy doing the masonry doesn't think metal flashing is his responsibility you end up with everyone saying it wasn't their responsibility and meanwhile the exterior painter is the cheapest guy on the site so he's installing peel and stick around the openings and covering everything in caulk to hope for the best you get... leaky buildings.
July 1, 20204 yr The plaza in front of Langsam Library is getting re-done... does anybody know if there's a new design for the plaza, or are they just rebuilding the previous design? They removed a bunch of fairly mature trees, which always bums me out. I hope there's a good plan for this space because it has a lot of potential if done well. I like how the surrounding buildings create a natural sense of enclosure. Photos from July 1: Aerial photo from March 2019 for comparison:
July 1, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, jwulsin said: The plaza in front of Langsam Library is getting re-done... does anybody know if there's a new design for the plaza, or are they just rebuilding the previous design? They removed a bunch of fairly mature trees, which always bums me out. I hope there's a good plan for this space because it has a lot of potential if done well. I like how the surrounding buildings create a natural sense of enclosure. The RFQ from last year stated it was mainly for waterproofing, part of the plaza was leaking above Woodside garage. The RFQ said everything is being redone including landscape and hardscape but that "the redesign needs to respect the plaza's original design but reflect emerging trends." I'm not sure who won the project, but it wasn't us. Edited July 1, 20204 yr by ucgrady
July 2, 20204 yr Not surprising. It was clear that water wasn't thought through overly well in that plaza. A shame mature trees had to be removed, but hopefully the fixes/changes will result in a better setup that allows the new trees to thrive and not be concerned with future tearing up of the plaza to redo it again.
August 25, 20204 yr According to today's Board of Trustee's Meeting Minutes, they approved the renovation of Calhoun Hall but I have yet to see any more information on it.
August 26, 20204 yr 18 hours ago, tonyt3524 said: According to today's Board of Trustee's Meeting Minutes, they approved the renovation of Calhoun Hall but I have yet to see any more information on it. I'll be curious how they handle the curtain wall and exterior. I'd like to see them retain the vertical elements, as opposed to just wrapping it all in glass like they did with Morgens and Scioto. I don't love how the the spandrel panels interact with the windows in the current design. I'm not totally sure the best way to improve it (maybe reduce the spandrel height and/or change the colors of the glazing/spandrels?).
August 26, 20204 yr 26 minutes ago, jwulsin said: I'll be curious how they handle the curtain wall and exterior. I'd like to see them retain the vertical elements, as opposed to just wrapping it all in glass like they did with Morgens and Scioto. I don't love how the the spandrel panels interact with the windows in the current design. I'm not totally sure the best way to improve it (maybe reduce the spandrel height and/or change the colors of the glazing/spandrels?). I'd actually like them to remove the emphasis on the horizontal elements separating window from spandrel as much as possible and make the spandrel panels glass to match the windows. Emphasize the vertical elements as much as possible and simplify everything in between as one material so it steps back. Hopefully with fairly clear/dark glass and not blue since I don't think blue glass works well in this international style of design, but not holding my breath on that aspect.
August 26, 20204 yr 16 minutes ago, jmicha said: Emphasize the vertical elements as much as possible and simplify everything in between as one material so it steps back. Hopefully with fairly clear/dark glass and not blue since I don't think blue glass works well in this international style of design, but not holding my breath on that aspect. Yes! I think that's what I had in my mind, if the glass spandrels can merge with new windows to appear as a single vertical form. Currently, the (non-glass) spandrels, windows, and occasional screen create a messy patchwork.
September 24, 20204 yr Renovation of Calhoun Hall was approved by UC's Board: https://www.newsrecord.org/news/uc-to-invest-millions-into-calhoun-hall-renovation/article_b9f1a5cc-f62c-11ea-994c-a74109466a43.html https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/09/24/uc-spending-80-million-to-renovate-calhoun-hall.html?ana=twt From the Courier: Quote Currently, Calhoun Hall has 816 beds. After the renovation, the tower will have 822 beds with a majority of the rooms being doubles, with quads at each end of the floor. Calhoun Hall will be co-ed with same gender floors. Instead of the current bathrooms shared by each floor, the renovated hall will have private shower and toilet configuration, which UC said will allow greater privacy, flexibility and safety related to current health concerns and adaptability. From the News Record: Quote UC plans to move students from Siddall Hall into the newly renovated building by the end of December 2022, allowing the university to start the renovation of Siddall Hall one year earlier than originally planned. Aesthetically, this is not what I had hoped for in my mind when I heard they were going to renovate Calhoun. I'm still glad it's getting renovated, but the proposed facade is not as visually compelling as I had hoped.
September 24, 20204 yr 32 minutes ago, jwulsin said: Aesthetically, this is not what I had hoped for in my mind when I heard they were going to renovate Calhoun. I'm still glad it's getting renovated, but the proposed facade is not as visually compelling as I had hoped. Agree - I don't like the switch from the dominating vertical elements to such strong horizontals. The verticals seemed to work a lot better with the overall building proportions.
September 24, 20204 yr On 8/26/2020 at 10:15 AM, jmicha said: Emphasize the vertical elements as much as possible and simplify everything in between as one material so it steps back. Hopefully with fairly clear/dark glass and not blue since I don't think blue glass works well in this international style of design, but not holding my breath on that aspect. Narrator: "They didn't"
September 24, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, Ram23 said: I don't like the switch from the dominating vertical elements to such strong horizontals. "I recommend a slow, steady gorging process combined with assal horizontology."
October 26, 20204 yr UC has set a preliminary demolition timeline for Crosley Tower Crosley Tower to be demolished in 2025
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