September 19, 200816 yr UC chasing $800M Drive would fund scholarships, new Law building http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080919/NEWS0102/809190366/1055/NEWS A new building for the College of Law, scholarships and financial aid will be among the main goals of an $800 million University of Cincinnati capital campaign. The official campaign launch won't come until late October, but organizers already have raised more than half of the goal in cash, equipment, property and pledges.
September 19, 200816 yr replace the existing structure, build it to the corner, and include street level retail. yay! easy as that, ha.
September 19, 200816 yr one thing to note about UC is that we only have so much room to expand, and expansions are and will be necessary, but because of the already dense nature of a square campus, they are going to have to start looking to acquire neighboring properties to build out. We will need more dorms, college of business is growing year after year with an aging building, and of course the law school....
September 20, 200816 yr Ideally, I think expanding shouldn't be a problem. I think I've mentioned this earlier in the thread or a similar thread but many universities in old or historic neighborhoods expand into the neighborhood without demolishing anything. I would love for UC to buy up properties along McMillan or Ohio Ave. - they would decrease neighborhood blight and preserve some of the nice victorian farmhouses and Italianates at the same time. Unfortunately I don't think they would bother with that. They would prefer to erase problems and start with a clean slate without having to worry about adapting existing buildings that could cater to their needs. I can understand building a new Law school but they could certainly use existing nearby buildings for offices.
September 21, 200816 yr Moving it downtown is a very intriguing idea. Lots of schools have a law school nowhere near the main campus--Northwestern, Columbia, NYU, etc.--so it wouldn't be unprecedented. And it would be close to the courts, the big firms, and major companies. (Full disclosure: I am a graduate of UC Law.)
September 21, 200816 yr Somebody on here may know better, but I think UC owns some land downtown. Plus there are parking lots in the Court Street area that would make a great place for the College of Law.
September 21, 200816 yr UC owns a lot of land. I think they even own land in OTR, or at least between OTR and Clifton Heights. Someone could check out the auditor's site and find that out. Just type in University of Cincinnati as the owner.
September 21, 200816 yr I hope it does. I've also felt that it'd be great to have some of the COB downtown as well, maybe exec ed, goering etc.
September 22, 200816 yr Sticking with the Cap theme, Capital also tried to create a school for professionals/business in the arena district and it was a huge flop (although they didn't give it much time) so success and failure. but yeah, i like the idea of it moving downtown.
April 5, 200916 yr Goodbye Wendy's, Freshens Smothies, and Jump Asian. Hello Chick-Fil-A and Burger King. New Food Options Available Fall 2009 http://www.uc.edu/food/foodcourt.html Tangeman University Center to offer new food options based on results of campus-wide surveys. Four campus restaurants will close in June 2009. Housing and Food Services is planning the opening of three new food options for summer and fall 2009. Burger King and Chick-fil-A are currently being planned to replace the Wendy’s and Jump concepts in the TUC food court. A yet-to-be-named concept, featuring sushi and a grab-and-go menu, will open in the TUC food court this summer. Burger King will replace the Wendy’s location and continues the tradition of a national brand hamburger concept in TUC that dates back to the 1970’s. Management for Wendy’s Hamburgers has chosen not to renew the option on their contract that expired in March. They have agreed to continue service through June of 2009 and may modify their menu for this period. The addition of Chick-fil-A to the food court will bring one of the most popular national chicken concepts to the UC campus. Rated an A- by Men’s Health in a recent article about America’s Healthiest Restaurants, Chick-fil-A boasts a breakfast and lunch menu that has only two items over 500 calories. Freshens, located in the TUC food court, and Zia Juice in the Campus Recreation Center, will also be closing in June 2009. The selection of the new concepts is based on results from campus-wide surveys of dining and brand preferences. Housing and Food Services is in the process of finalizing agreements for each restaurant to open in TUC for the summer and fall of this year. “We listened to the students, faculty and staff here at UC to find out their food and brand preferences and our goal was to bring these options to them,” says John Hautz, director for the food service operations. “We are looking forward to having these new restaurants ready to open for the 2010 academic year.” Pizza Hut Express and Gold Star Chili will continue operating in TUC through the summer and the 2010 academic year.
April 6, 200916 yr Goodbye Wendy's, Freshens Smothies, and Jump Asian. Hello Chick-Fil-A and Burger King. New Food Options Available Fall 2009 http://www.uc.edu/food/foodcourt.html Housing and Food Services is planning the opening of three new food options for summer and fall 2009. Burger King and Chick-fil-A are currently being planned to replace the Wendy’s and Jump concepts in the TUC food court. A yet-to-be-named concept, featuring sushi and a grab-and-go menu, will open in the TUC food court this summer. Burger King will replace the Wendy’s location and continues the tradition of a national brand hamburger concept in TUC that dates back to the 1970’s. Management for Wendy’s Hamburgers has chosen not to renew the option on their contract that expired in March. They have agreed to continue service through June of 2009 and may modify their menu for this period. Interesting. That Wendy's is almost always slammed.
April 6, 200916 yr That's bad news for me if I end up at UC for grad school. I think Wendy's is about a million times better than Burger King, and I won't eat at Chik-fil-A because the company is run by a right-wing Southern Baptist who is a heavy financier of Focus on the Family and other similar groups. At least the Skyline Chili on Ludlow is convenient to DAAP.
April 6, 200916 yr It's weird that Wendy's would choose to close, that place does a killing; it has 2 lines 40 people deep during the lunch rush. Chik-fil-A is a welcome addition, I think it will become my norm for quick, cheap food once Wendy's is gone.
April 6, 200916 yr Yeah, I have no idea why Wendy's would want to close that location, unless mismanagement was causing them to lose money... but I don't see how since it's always packed. Around lunchtime, there will often be two full lines at Wendy's and no lines at Gold Star or Jump. I can see why Freshens is closing. No customers were ever there, and they were only open 10am-3pm anyway... they were closed any time I actually wanted to get something from there.
April 7, 200916 yr Chic-fil-a is overrated, but does have a logo that mirrors UC's C-Paw logo. Burger King is a great improvement over Wendy's. The concept thing will probably fail as the last couple concept things have failed. Whatever though...I graduate in June.
May 1, 200916 yr Yeah, I have no idea why Wendy's would want to close that location, unless mismanagement was causing them to lose money... but I don't see how since it's always packed. Around lunchtime, there will often be two full lines at Wendy's and no lines at Gold Star or Jump. When you get a refill on a soft drink at the Wendy's in TUC, they do not refill your cup. They give you a brand new cup of soda. Not only does that waste cups (and their money), they let you keep your old (empty) cup. This allows you to give it to a friend, who can take it up to them and ask for a "refill" to a drink they didn't buy in the first place. If that alone isn't causing them to lose money, I'm sure the manager who made that decision has made other similarly stupid decisions to cause that location to lose money.
May 1, 200916 yr I doubt any restaurant goes broke because they give away too much soda. The wholesale cost of a 12-oz. can of Coke is about a quarter, and that's mostly for the can itself. For fountain drinks, the wholesale cost of each cup, straw, and beverage is a fraction of that.
May 1, 200916 yr Yeah, I was always under the impression the fountain pop was a biggest money maker. Something like $30 for one bag, that in turn makes almost 400 pops. Cups are maybe 5-10 cents ea.
May 1, 200916 yr I had to deal with Wendy's management a few times over the phone to set up a student group function and let me say...perhaps some of the most unprofessional people I have dealt with. Their current GM has no idea what is going on at her restaurant, and when I called to ask questions about setting up this event she would cut me off mid sentence and basically told me I was stupid. I've also had absurdly long waits for simple orders from the dollar menu and gotten downright inedible food. That place is such a mess...shame too because they have an eager student audience with their wallets wide open.
May 1, 200916 yr Yeah, I was always under the impression the fountain pop was a biggest money maker. Something like $30 for one bag, that in turn makes almost 400 pops. Cups are maybe 5-10 cents ea. Drip coffee has some high margins as well. Keg beer too.
May 1, 200916 yr Yeah, I was always under the impression the fountain pop was a biggest money maker. Something like $30 for one bag, that in turn makes almost 400 pops. Cups are maybe 5-10 cents ea. I had to deal with Wendy's management a few times over the phone to set up a student group function and let me say...perhaps some of the most unprofessional people I have dealt with. Their current GM has no idea what is going on at her restaurant, and when I called to ask questions about setting up this event she would cut me off mid sentence and basically told me I was stupid. I've also had absurdly long waits for simple orders from the dollar menu and gotten downright inedible food. That place is such a mess...shame too because they have an eager student audience with their wallets wide open. Right... I understand that soda is the biggest money maker. Just saying that the management is likely poor at this location, and who knows what other strange policies they have. It's a health concern. Other restaurants will (or should) do the same. Interesting to hear this. I've never seen any other restaurant do this with refills. Many sit-down restaurants even take your glasses to refill rather than just bringing you a new one.
May 1, 200916 yr ^ Agreed. If you manage a Wendy's franchise in a good location on a major college campus, it takes a special kind of stupid to put it out of business.
May 1, 200916 yr ^^Yeah, I had no idea until I actually asked one why they did that. By public health standard, they are supposed to either dispose of your cup and issue you a new one, or have you remove the lid so they can refill it.
May 3, 200916 yr No, Wendy's > Burger King "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
June 19, 200915 yr Here are some photos of the new restaurants going in TUC. Sorry for the cameraphone images. Burger King going in old Wendy's space: "Kuma Neko Sushi" going in old Freshens space: Chick-Fil-A going in old Jump Asian space:
June 19, 200915 yr Before, Wendy's took about 80% of the customers in TUC, now I think things will be a bit more manageable with BK and Chick-Fil-A splitting the bulk of people.
June 19, 200915 yr Before, Wendy's took about 80% of the customers in TUC, now I think things will be a bit more manageable with BK and Chick-Fil-A splitting the bulk of people. I guarantee that Chick-Fil-A will pick up probably 70-75% of the crowd still. I know a lot of people who can't stand BK.
June 22, 200915 yr When Chick-Fil-A opened at UK's student center a few years back, that took up about 80% of the customers. Even during lunch rush, msot of the other venues rarely had a line to speak of. Chick-Fil-A was always crowded.
June 22, 200915 yr It looks like the sushi place is already open. Saw a few people in line there today. Edit: I am informed that “Kuma Neko” translates as “bear cat”. Sweet.
September 4, 200915 yr They are drilling holes in the parking lot where the new practice fields will go. Here's a terrible cameraphone image:
September 8, 200915 yr That's actually the last surface lot left throughout campus, is it not? I wouldn't count the Marriot and VA parking around East Campus in this. Obviously the hospital commands a lot of surface parking.
September 8, 200915 yr No... there is still the parking lot near the Alumni Center and Lidner Hall (COB).
September 8, 200915 yr The combined VA, UC, Children's, Zoo parking on the west side of Vine St. Some surface lots between MLK and the hospitals. And a small surface lot behind the pharmacy building. But that is all in the med center complex area.
September 8, 200915 yr No... there is still the parking lot near the Alumni Center and Lidner Hall (COB). Yeah there is that small one there and that's it. If the University had money for capital projects it would be moving forward with a new dorm building at that location. Unfortunately we're probably going to have to wait a few years for that.
October 12, 200915 yr ^ If a new dorm gets built, it will be paid for with revenue bonds from room rates---not money from the university capital budget. Now whether the university has the debt capacity to float those bonds, I have no idea.
October 12, 200915 yr A while ago people were talking about adding space for the College of Business or College of Applied Science (which just merged with the College of Engineering) where the current Alumni Center is now. Not sure which is the more pressing need -- more classroom space or dorm space. Other than that, I would love to see UC buy the old YMCA on Calhoun and make that into the new CCM library. And renovate Wilson Auditorium!
October 12, 200915 yr The YMCA really is a shame, and according to the master plan Wilson is coming down as soon as they can afford to replace it with a new Arts & Sciences building. It's an amazing building but it's been left to slowly crumble, and with the new CCM complex there's no need for such a big auditorium. Here's a few inside looks at it: http://zfein.blogspot.com/2009/09/wilson-auditorium-revisited.html http://queencitydiscovery.blogspot.com/2009/10/gordon-bombay-and-auditorium-of-doom.html
October 12, 200915 yr ^A lot of that master plan is dated at this point and will never happen...so I wouldn't necessarily read into that all that much. The YWCA is a really unfortunate situation due to some personal issues that happened with ownership there that resulted in one of the people coming in and stripping the building of most of its architectural jewels. While the building has some issues structurally, it's my understanding that it is definitely salvageable. I've heard that CCM has had its eyes on it for their library for some time now...never underestimate the power of a premier college like DAAP or CCM at a university.
October 13, 200915 yr If/when they do end up tearing down Wilson auditorium, it would be cool if they salvaged some the facade details and incorporated them into whatever is built in its place, especially if it is a very modern building
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