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11 hours ago, savadams13 said:

Shack Shake is opening in the old Keystone location at U-Square, right off campus.

 

Yup I mentioned something about it in the restaurant thread. Should be quite a popular spot.

 

The old St Clair is being taken over by the owners of Alive & Well but not sure on timeline.

2 hours ago, tonyt3524 said:

 

Yup I mentioned something about it in the restaurant thread. Should be quite a popular spot.

 

 

Waffle House should have been popular.  Keystone should have been popular.  Taste of Belgium should have been popular.  Pieology should have been popular. 

39 minutes ago, Lazarus said:

 

Waffle House should have been popular.  Keystone should have been popular.  Taste of Belgium should have been popular.  Pieology should have been popular. 


Not really. None of these have the brand and following of Shake Shack. Keystone? Really lol, Taste of Belgium? no it belongs in OTR/downtown which is why he has closed many locations recently; Pieology the lame pizza place? You must be kidding. Let’s not even discuss Waffle House. 

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13 minutes ago, Lazarus said:

 

Waffle House should have been popular.  Keystone should have been popular.  Taste of Belgium should have been popular.  Pieology should have been popular. 

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4 hours ago, tonyt3524 said:

 

Yup I mentioned something about it in the restaurant thread. Should be quite a popular spot.

 

The old St Clair is being taken over by the owners of Alive & Well but not sure on timeline.

Alive & Well is an awesome spot! Not sure if college kids can afford $15 cocktails but maybe they’ve got a different vibe planned for that location 

12 minutes ago, cblhaus said:

Alive & Well is an awesome spot! Not sure if college kids can afford $15 cocktails but maybe they’ve got a different vibe planned for that location 

 

I believe it's going to be a similar vibe to Rinehaus 

Shake Shack will do well as I believe it's the only one in Hamilton County (?). I thought Waffle House would've done better with college kids (the one at OSU is still thriving, hilariously) but the location on the backside of that building is probably a reason why it didn't attract as many, I'm presuming.  I dunno.  The rest of those chains, meh.

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3 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

Shake Shack will do well as I believe it's the only one in Hamilton County (?). I thought Waffle House would've done better with college kids (the one at OSU is still thriving, hilariously) but the location on the backside of that building is probably a reason why it didn't attract as many, I'm presuming.  I dunno.  The rest of those chains, meh.

 

If that Waffle House was a rundown standalone building off MLK it would probably have been packed from midnight to 4am every night. 

 

It's weird to go to a Waffle House in a new build.

And they als

14 minutes ago, ryanlammi said:

 

If that Waffle House was a rundown standalone building off MLK it would probably have been packed from midnight to 4am every night. 

 

It's weird to go to a Waffle House in a new build.

 

And they also wouldn't be paying $34/sqft or whatever.

45 minutes ago, ryanlammi said:

 

If that Waffle House was a rundown standalone building off MLK it would probably have been packed from midnight to 4am every night. 

 

It's weird to go to a Waffle House in a new build.

 

People around campus seem to go to Skyline late at night. Maybe that's part of it too.

 

4 hours ago, ColDayMan said:

the one at OSU is still thriving

Indeed. It hosted a murder just this year.

23 hours ago, tonyt3524 said:

 

People around campus seem to go to Skyline late at night. Maybe that's part of it too.

 

They used to go to a bunch of places because a bunch of places were open late.  Papa Dino's was open until 4am.  Acropolis was open after the bars closed and Adriatico's closed at 2:30am. 

19 hours ago, zsnyder said:

 

Indeed. It hosted a murder just this year.

 

The short-lived UC Waffle house produced one classic "Waffle House Fights" video:

 

I actually knew the guy throwing the tantrum.  He was totally nuts pretty much all of the time.  I had to work with the guy for about six weeks and almost punched him the time he stuck his fingers in my arm pits while I was on the phone.  Around 2019 he was arrested for selling cocaine in The Pavilion in Mt. Adams.  The last time I saw him he was wearing an ankle bracelet on Estelle St. in Mt. Auburn.  He overdosed in 2022. 

 

 

 

 

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UC receives $4M research grant to establish new center on campus

By Lara Schwartz – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier

Oct 21, 2024

 

Researchers at the University of Cincinnati have received a $4 million grant to establish a climate change health research center.

 

The university was awarded the three-year, $4 million grant by the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences of the National Institutes of Health. The grant will be used to launch the university’s research center looking into the health effects of climate change.

 

The center will be called the Cincinnati Center for Climate and Health.

 

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UC’s board of trustees approves $275M for massive housing development, total project cost rises

By Lara Schwartz – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier

Oct 22, 2024

 

The University of Cincinnati’s board of trustees has approved spending an additional $275 million for its planned Block 1 & 2 housing development.

 

The money, allocated during a vote Tuesday, Oct. 22, will fund the construction and soft costs of the student housing project, slated for a 2.1-acre site at the northwest corner of East McMillan and Vine streets in Clifton Heights, effectively expanding UC’s campus south.

 

The university purchased the land from College Hill Community Urban Redevelopment Corp. (CHCURC) after the board in 2023 approved spending $8.25 million for the acquisition.

 

Previously, the board had approved $15 million for the project’s design work and an additional $36 million to fund site development. It's been billed by Pat Kowalski, UC's senior vice president for administration and finance, as a “gateway project” for the university.

 

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33 minutes ago, The_Cincinnati_Kid said:

UC’s board of trustees approves $275M for massive housing development, total project cost rises

By Lara Schwartz – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier

Oct 22, 2024

 

The University of Cincinnati’s board of trustees has approved spending an additional $275 million for its planned Block 1 & 2 housing development.

 

The money, allocated during a vote Tuesday, Oct. 22, will fund the construction and soft costs of the student housing project, slated for a 2.1-acre site at the northwest corner of East McMillan and Vine streets in Clifton Heights, effectively expanding UC’s campus south.

 

The university purchased the land from College Hill Community Urban Redevelopment Corp. (CHCURC) after the board in 2023 approved spending $8.25 million for the acquisition.

 

Previously, the board had approved $15 million for the project’s design work and an additional $36 million to fund site development. It's been billed by Pat Kowalski, UC's senior vice president for administration and finance, as a “gateway project” for the university.

 

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I like it! That’s gonna be big time construction site when the cranes go up.

I'm a rookie as far as aesthetics and architecture goes, but I'm pleasantly surprised at the renderings above. I like the angles on the building both in their form and that they are "against the grain" with the Calhoun/McM street grid. The towers at the corner of Vine and Calhoun will seem huge as you are coming up the Vine hill. I think the view more toward Christ Hospital is more interesting. 

 

Fall of 2027 occupancy, so it would seem construction will start pretty quickly and we will see new tower cranes. 

1,310 beds with only 201 parking spots seems like a win. Street-level activation is better than I anticipated. Curious to see the McMillan side.

im glad to see "up" is still an option. 4 and done is getting old.

20 hours ago, Rabbit Hash said:

I'm a rookie as far as aesthetics and architecture goes, but I'm pleasantly surprised at the renderings above. I like the angles on the building both in their form and that they are "against the grain" with the Calhoun/McM street grid. The towers at the corner of Vine and Calhoun will seem huge as you are coming up the Vine hill. I think the view more toward Christ Hospital is more interesting. 

 

Fall of 2027 occupancy, so it would seem construction will start pretty quickly and we will see new tower cranes. 

I definitely think the middle tower needs different cladding, and the enclosed walkways need something as well. Looks a little too similar to the bad architecture of the 60s and 70s.

That's a massive development and the development in Uptown continues.

Mole's Records has been painted lime green. 

8 hours ago, Lazarus said:

Mole's Records has been painted lime green. 

What's in that building now that Mole's closed?

With this development and all the stuff happening in Uptown it feels like the area is slowly connecting more towards Walnut Hills but also connecting closer to OTR proper.

 

I was in Columbus last weekend for the Marathon and during the run and walking around the night before, their convention center district is basically connected to OSU. I don't know the mileage distance between their convention district and the OSU area but it feels like a contiguous area. What I am getting at, I believe the distance between UC and Downtown Cincy is larger than the distance between OSU and their convention center, but I like how the bus system feels very much a part of that corridor and it keeps it lively and busy.

 

I am wondering how the new Metro Routes / BRT is going to feel in that corridor. I haven't been as engaged on this forum after a couple of kids but do we know the form and function yet of the BRT going up Vine Street yet and how that is going to improve throughout the UC Corridor?

 

Feeling like huge developments like these with a contiguous BRT corridor should start to spur a lot more development along that corridor. I also know there is a big development planned for Inwood Park correct? Once all that gets developed, with this development, and the BRT, do you all expect the vacant lots and areas in between on the hill to develop at a quicker pace now?

5 minutes ago, IAGuy39 said:

I was in Columbus last weekend for the Marathon and during the run and walking around the night before, their convention center district is basically connected to OSU. I don't know the mileage distance between their convention district and the OSU area but it feels like a contiguous area. What I am getting at, I believe the distance between UC and Downtown Cincy is larger than the distance between OSU and their convention center, but I like how the bus system feels very much a part of that corridor and it keeps it lively and busy.

 

Just an FYI, UC to Downtown Cincinnati is 1.9 miles while OSU to the Convention Center is around 2.0 miles.  So basically the same.

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54 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

 

Just an FYI, UC to Downtown Cincinnati is 1.9 miles while OSU to the Convention Center is around 2.0 miles.  So basically the same.

Plus a 300' vertical change between McMillan and McMicken, that's not nothing when it comes to pedestrian and bike travel. 

2 hours ago, ColDayMan said:

 

Just an FYI, UC to Downtown Cincinnati is 1.9 miles while OSU to the Convention Center is around 2.0 miles.  So basically the same.

Ok that makes sense! It’s flatter but more contiguous for sure, the other part when running I think it was Neil Street the start of the second half of the Marathon I was in a state of distress so it felt like a blur and went really fast 😹

3 hours ago, ucgrady said:

Plus a 300' vertical change between McMillan and McMicken, that's not nothing when it comes to pedestrian and bike travel. 

And Cincinnati doesn't really have an analog to High St., meaning a corridor along which such a heavy proportion of amenities are concentrated.

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15 hours ago, jwulsin said:

What's in that building now that Mole's closed?

 

Amazingly, Turner is using it as its construction office.  As I posted earlier, I assumed that this building was a goner but with the new exterior paint job it looks like it might be kept as an apartment building with 2-3 units. 

14 hours ago, IAGuy39 said:

Feeling like huge developments like these with a contiguous BRT corridor should start to spur a lot more development along that corridor. I also know there is a big development planned for Inwood Park correct? Once all that gets developed, with this development, and the BRT, do you all expect the vacant lots and areas in between on the hill to develop at a quicker pace now?

 

I doubt that the BRT corridor is going to do much to improve the Vine St. Hill since the BRT buses likely won't have a single stop on the hill.  The whole concept is also fundamentally flawed since the intersections at the bottom and top of the hill are extremely slow. 

 

 

 

8 hours ago, Lazarus said:

 

I doubt that the BRT corridor is going to do much to improve the Vine St. Hill since the BRT buses likely won't have a single stop on the hill.  The whole concept is also fundamentally flawed since the intersections at the bottom and top of the hill are extremely slow. 

 

 

 

Seems like they should make at least one stop on the hill? Also with BRT are they going to do signal priority? Feels like they should get this corridor 100% correct to really drive development at a quicker pace… 

From the plans I have seen shared on UrbanOhio, it seems like there are going to be very few bus-only lanes, so it better have a good amount of signal priority or else...it's not BRT.

 

Keep in mind that the intersection of Vine-Jefferson/Taft-Calhoun was originally supposed to have a priority signal for buses headed north which is why there's a short bus-only lane on the north side of that intersection. Buses would have been able to cross first and merge into the main traffic lane and continue north on Jefferson ahead of auto traffic. But it didn't happen, probably because someone at the City of Cincinnati DOTE thought it would have been "confusing" or just "wasn't necessary." I have a feeling that Metro's "BRT" is going to get significantly watered down in the same way.

Y'all need to chill with the constant doomerism about the BRT plan. Most of the stubborn engineers and planners at the city have retired, with all the new hires being very supportive of transportation alternatives, and Cranley isn't mayor anymore. SORTA have also massively expanded their planning capacity especially with senior people with great experience. The biggest threat to the project isn't the city or SORTA, it's community groups like Clifton Towne meeting who are discussing opposing the project in its entirety, regardless of its quality, because they think people use the buses to setup encampments in Burnet Woods. Instead of just throwing up your hands and giving up on the project before they even start major public engagement, get organized and show up to meetings so politicians like Kearney won't back down to NIMBYs.

5 minutes ago, Dev said:

because they think people use the buses to setup encampments in Burnet Woods

not to mention, there are rumors that people's pets (cats and dogs) are already disappearing. and the zoo isn't that far away.

18 hours ago, Dev said:

Y'all need to chill with the constant doomerism about the BRT plan. Most of the stubborn engineers and planners at the city have retired, with all the new hires being very supportive of transportation alternatives, and Cranley isn't mayor anymore. SORTA have also massively expanded their planning capacity especially with senior people with great experience. The biggest threat to the project isn't the city or SORTA, it's community groups like Clifton Towne meeting who are discussing opposing the project in its entirety, regardless of its quality, because they think people use the buses to setup encampments in Burnet Woods. Instead of just throwing up your hands and giving up on the project before they even start major public engagement, get organized and show up to meetings so politicians like Kearney won't back down to NIMBYs.

 

My pessimism is mostly because the first plan they released was extremely uninspiring, and should have been the best option that we could build before communities attack it and water it down. The first maps they released basically promised that nothing would fundamentally change. They are planning BRT lanes on long stretches that don't see heavy traffic and using mixed traffic where bus lanes are needed.

 

They watered down the plan before they even got any opposition. It's not going to improve from what was originally proposed, it's only going to see more concessions as the Hyde Parks and Cliftons of the city harass the plan non-stop.

1 hour ago, ryanlammi said:

My pessimism is mostly because the first plan they released was extremely uninspiring, and should have been the best option that we could build before communities attack it and water it down. The first maps they released basically promised that nothing would fundamentally change. They are planning BRT lanes on long stretches that don't see heavy traffic and using mixed traffic where bus lanes are needed.

 

They watered down the plan before they even got any opposition. It's not going to improve from what was originally proposed, it's only going to see more concessions as the Hyde Parks and Cliftons of the city harass the plan non-stop.


That's a terrible negotiation tactic. If they shoot for the stars, they are not going to land on the moon, as it's more likely that they wouldn't be able to take off at all. It would just massively antagonize NIMBYs who would then be able to get a lot more momentum. Right now it isn't even clear if they will be able to gain any real support at the moment. For example, it's my understanding that while Clifton Towne Meeting and the Clifton Business Association are becoming increasingly hostile to any and all improved bus service, it is not a unanimous opinion. There's still time to win people over, or at least disarm the opposition. In the event that they did go for full bus-only lanes the whole way, it would make it easier for the opposition to get organized. The whole project might get scrapped or hobbled altogether with some ridiculous routing.

 

We just saw this with the streetcar! We lost almost a decade of pro-urbanist policies because Cranley was able to use it as a cudgel to antagonize reactionaries. But just like the streetcar, the hardest part is getting the service started to being with. So sure, the Gaslight District will be mixed traffic because there would be too much opposition to removing on-street parking for bus lanes, but that means the bus will stop in the travel lane. Give that a few years of that constant stop and go, and they'll be way more support to just remove the on-street parking. The northern sections only have BAT lanes, but given how auto-orientated those blocks are, there are a lot of curb cuts that would interfere with installing a bus-only lane. But they are getting rid of, or preventing the addition of, on-street parking, so as the corridor redesigns itself around the better bus service, it'll lend itself to making those lanes bus only in the future.

 

Considering our government at all levels has been constantly sabotaged for over half a century, that's a really big win! Incremental improvements are not exciting, especially given how obvious that a more thorough design would be way more successful, but it's a political necessity.

If I'm not mistaken our republican governor turned down $37million of approved money to stop the vine street downtown to the zoo line. i think the country was in crisis because of the great recession. thanks W. Of course that money went to another state. because our governor turned it down.

It went to build a bridge in Steubenville. It was required to be spent on infrastructure. I think it was a political move as Kasich knew he wouldn't be getting the vote from Cincinnati.

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21 hours ago, tonyt3524 said:

Looks as if UC is officially exploring renovating Daniels Hall or building an entirely new dorm in its place.

 

https://dam.assets.ohio.gov/image/upload/ofcc.ohio.gov/Portals/0/Documents/Opportunities/RFQ/2024/RFQ-UCN-25029A-AE.pdf

 

I have been pleased with UC's tower renovations (even though I loved the original brick modernism of Siddal and Calhoun). The more sustainable option would be to keep the structure of Daniels and renovate/reclad as necessary. If UC needs to expand room capacity (we know they do), I could see university tearing it down and building on a bigger footprint including the trailers and potentially 60 W Charlton and the outdoor practice field.

2 hours ago, Chas Wiederhold said:

 

I have been pleased with UC's tower renovations (even though I loved the original brick modernism of Siddal and Calhoun). The more sustainable option would be to keep the structure of Daniels and renovate/reclad as necessary. If UC needs to expand room capacity (we know they do), I could see university tearing it down and building on a bigger footprint including the trailers and potentially 60 W Charlton and the outdoor practice field.

 

Agreed. The document specifically says that the outdoor practice field is not part of the scope, except to consider how it will be impacted by what happens on the Daniels site. I hope they renovate Daniels and build something new (go tall!) on the area where the trailers are now. 

 

From the RFQ:

"The southern half of the block is occupied by 60 W. Charlton to the west, and a 50-yard football practice field that sits above the University’s Thermal Energy Storage facility to the east. These facilities are excluded from this project except to consider how they relate to and are potentially impacted by changes to the north half of the block.

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UC remains an outlier nationally when it comes to enrollment growth

By Lara Schwartz – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier

Nov 7, 2024

 

The University of Cincinnati has continued to smash its own enrollment records year after year, in a time when overall college enrollment is declining.

 

This year, UC welcomed 53,235 students for the fall semester, a 3.4% increase from last year. Concurrently, its two satellite campuses saw an average of 6.25% growth in their student populations, its online student enrollment increased by 11% and the number of transfer students increased by 6%.

 

Nationally, college enrollment has decreased at a rate of about 1.5% each year since 2011.

 

Ohio’s higher education institutions aren’t exempt from the national trends. In the last 10 years, total enrollment has decreased 11.4%, according to the Ohio Department of Higher Education.

 

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UC eyes another major housing redevelopment project, seeks design team

By Lara Schwartz – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier

Nov 12, 2024

 

The University of Cincinnati is starting its next major housing redevelopment project.

 

The university issued a request for qualifications in search of a team that can conduct an assessment of Daniels Hall, located on the north half of the block bordered by West Daniels Street on the north, Commons Way on the west, West Charlton Street on the south and Jefferson Avenue on the east.

 

In its current state, Daniels Hall is a nine-story residence hall built in 1967. It currently houses 775 undergraduate beds in single-, triple- and quadruple-occupant rooms. It also has community bathroom facilities, lounges and kitchens on each floor.

 

The redevelopment will also include the Commons Edge complex, which has 6,870 square feet of industrialized office units housing administrative and student services like accessibility resources, athletics and the commencement office.

 

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Remember when that building had BALCONIES? 

49 minutes ago, zsnyder said:

Remember when that building had BALCONIES? 

Did it really? Curious to see photos. I tried googling and couldn't find anything.

I still think that "By the year 2000 UC will be all towers" era was interesting.

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