February 20, 200817 yr Let's not forget that Dayton was supposed to take part and have a few venues for the Cincinnati Olympic Bid as well. I somehow think that there was not as much cooperation between the cities to help make this happen. The two big kids really need to start working together to benefit the region more. I know some of you Cincy guys don't like that idea, but it would really be a big plus. I think Louisville, Columbus, and Cleveland were supposed to have events. It was supposed to be centered in Cincy, but it was kind of an Ohio/whole area thing.
February 20, 200817 yr I'm not sure about Cleveland or even Louisville. I know the Columbus Crew stadium was a proposal. Dayton's proposals were UD Arena, 5/3 Field and something in Moraine (although I don't remember what).
February 20, 200817 yr Cleveland had preliminary baseball rounds at the Jake, and something else I can't remember. Louisville had boxing, which would have been perfect.
February 21, 200817 yr This may have presented a problem for Cincinnati during the Olympic bid. Spreading events out to 4 other metropolitan areas? I'm pretty sure Atlanta stayed in Atlanta, Salt Lake City stayed in Salt Lake City and Los Angeles stayed in...well somewhere out there. I can understand Dayton, because you can drive to Dayton's metro in 20 mins, but to include areas that are 2 to 3 hours away may have pushed the IOC's decision away from Cincinnati.
February 21, 200817 yr It was a gross misconception that Cincinnati's olympic bid was unusual for having venues spread around a wide area. Some events from the Atlanta Olympics were in Tennessee, for example, and there were many others in Georgia's obscure corners and waters. Also, Olympic Villages suck and China's repeating the same mistakes. It's hard not to giggle continuously while strolling around Montreal's olympic grounds today and its two barely-used subway stations. Barcelona's Olympic facilities were small-time. The famous diving pool with the dense urban background is still there but it's weatherbeaten. The Olympic stadium is smaller than Nippert. The funicular railway built from the nearest subway line gets hardly any riders now. And don't get me started on the St. Louis games.
February 21, 200817 yr atlanta's olympic rings look like they are straight out of eastern europe, soviet era
February 21, 200817 yr Cleveland had preliminary baseball rounds at the Jake, and something else I can't remember. It was sailing. The Cleveland events were the furthest events from Cincinnati. Between Dayton, Columbus, Lexington, Louisville and Indianapolis, everything else was well within a two hour drive. This may have presented a problem for Cincinnati during the Olympic bid. Spreading events out to 4 other metropolitan areas? I'm pretty sure Atlanta stayed in Atlanta, Salt Lake City stayed in Salt Lake City and Los Angeles stayed in...well somewhere out there. I can understand Dayton, because you can drive to Dayton's metro in 20 mins, but to include areas that are 2 to 3 hours away may have pushed the IOC's decision away from Cincinnati. Jmeck's right about the Olympics. The Atlanta Olympics were spread out further than Cincinnati's would have been. Sydney's recent Olympics also were spread out, and they weren't centrally located (Olympic Stadium I believe was in Homebush Bay, downtown Sydney isn't very close.) Do you really think that all those Olympic events are going to be within easy reach of each other in Beijing? I find it hard to believe that it would be easier for the average person to get around northeastern China than the American Midwest. The thing that I believe hurt Cincinnati's bid the most was the lack of hotel space compared with the other cities it was bidding against. While Barcelona's Olympic facilities do look chintzy today, and as far as I can tell they are just sitting there, gathering dust, having the Olympics was a major catalyst to making that City as prominent as it is now.
February 21, 200817 yr Let's not forget that Dayton was supposed to take part and have a few venues for the Cincinnati Olympic Bid as well. I somehow think that there was not as much cooperation between the cities to help make this happen. The two big kids really need to start working together to benefit the region more. I know some of you Cincy guys don't like that idea, but it would really be a big plus. Very good point!
February 22, 200817 yr The two big kids really need to start working together to benefit the region more. I know some of you Cincy guys don't like that idea, but it would really be a big plus. I must not understand something...but who has ever suggested (from Cincinnati) that the two shouldn't work together in a regional sense? Sure Cincinnati people have suggested, and most often joked about Cincinati absorbing Dayton, but that doesn't mean that we don't want to see the two work together more...I actually think the contrary. The two should be more unified and try to merge together more that will create a better, more efficient/powerful region.
February 22, 200817 yr This is from: http://www.gamesbids.com/english/bids/usa.shtml Cincinnati, USA (eliminated Oct. 26, 2001) Bid: 2012 Summer Olympic Games - USOC Bid Description: Cincinnati’s bid may be trouble because of the riots that took place in April, 2001. The venues include college and municipal athletic facilities in Dayton, Ohio and Columbus Ohio and Lexington Kentucky and Louisville, Kentucky, as well as the Greater Cincinnati area. Lake Erie off Cleveland may be used for the Olympic sailing competition. 78 per cent of the venues are in place. Businesses and private donors have pledged more than $5 million and another $2 million needs to be raised. Highlights: Midwestern hospitality. Good road system. Challenges: No light-rail system. Not enough hotel rooms in area. Race riots in recent memories. Official Website: Click here to open site in new window Message Board: Click here to open board in new window
February 22, 200817 yr "Challenges: No light-rail system. Not enough hotel rooms in area. Race riots in recent memories." I would like to say we have made descent strides in two of the three categories since then. That 3rd one is still teasing us though!!!
February 29, 200817 yr Any news on The Banks? It has been quite awhile since I've heard anything about it. Does anyone have any info?
February 29, 200817 yr I know things are moving along... I know a lady whose non-profit org works to get jobs for minorities. They are currently in a bidding process to gain a contract as a consultant for the banks developers. Not "in the news" stuff, but framework, at least.
February 29, 200817 yr ^ The Enquirer only reports bad news when it comes to downtown... Just kidding, but it does seem the reporting is bias against downtown. They really like picking on the Banks Project
February 29, 200817 yr YAY! :-D Banks to start April 2 BY KEITH T. REED | KREED@ENQUIRER. The developers of The Banks will announce this afternoon that they have secured all $74 million needed to finance the first phase of construction, clearing the way for an April 2 groundbreaking on the project. "This is great news. It means The Banks project will definitely advance," said Cincinnati Mayor Mark Mallory. "I'm excited that Carter/Dawson (the developers) will be doing the project and I'm looking forward to a great development.'' The Enquirer will update this story as information develops. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080229/BIZ01/302290098
February 29, 200817 yr I might take a vacation day and park my a$$ at PBS with a lawn chair and a cooler full of Ice cold beverages.
February 29, 200817 yr I might take a vacation day and park my a$$ at PBS with a lawn chair and a cooler full of Ice cold beverages. AMEN
February 29, 200817 yr Updated Article Banks to start April 2 BY KEITH T. REED | [email protected] The developers of The Banks will announce this afternoon that they have secured all $74 million needed to finance the first phase of construction, clearing the way for an April 2 groundbreaking on the project. "This is great news. It means The Banks project will definitely advance," said Cincinnati Mayor Mark Mallory. "I'm excited that Carter/Dawson (the developers) will be doing the project and I'm looking forward to a great development.'' www.enquirer.com
February 29, 200817 yr It is important to note that the Banks has the funding for phase one and a proceeding on phase one. They don't yet have the funding for phase two, but they will be pursuing it while they work on phase one.
February 29, 200817 yr It is important to note that the Banks has the funding for phase one and a proceeding on phase one. They don't yet have the funding for phase two, but they will be pursuing it while they work on phase one. Haha... but wait. I live in Price Hill and i don't know why we are building this thing that will only help the residents who live downtown.
February 29, 200817 yr So much for Ovation making out of the ground before The Banks! Ya well the Banks had a 10 year head start...J/K. FINALLY THE BANKS WILL ARRIVE SOON
February 29, 200817 yr We can't bust the champleee out just yet! I have wasted many bottles on premature or false info from our local media. :wink: It is incouraging news though!!!!!!! Damn, That's only a month away! This years flyin!
February 29, 200817 yr Randy? Randy? Oh my, I think he's passed out from all the excitement! I think he is down there with a shovel getting a head start
February 29, 200817 yr BREAKING NEWS!!!!!! Banks to start April 2 BY KEITH T. REED | [email protected] The developers of The Banks will announce this afternoon that they have secured all $74 million needed to finance the first phase of construction, clearing the way for an April 2 groundbreaking on the project. "This is great news. It means The Banks project will definitely advance," said Cincinnati Mayor Mark Mallory. "I'm excited that Carter/Dawson (the developers) will be doing the project and I'm looking forward to a great development.''
February 29, 200817 yr ^ You beat me to the punch! This is great news. I'm so excited right now i cant even explain it. Now start laying the tracks for the streetcar. Cincinnati will quickly regain a lot of respect with in the city, region, and the midwest. This project has been the Achilles heal for Cincy since I've been in high school, and now the image of the city can start to its image on a larger scale
February 29, 200817 yr think about it, Streetcar Banks New Tallest building all completed within two years of each other
February 29, 200817 yr Where am I going to tailgate now at the Bengals games? Now, don't everybody start rioting and running the streets of Cincinnati tonight...you know like they after the World Series/World Cup/Social Revolutions. :lol:
February 29, 200817 yr Fantastic! Just as I predicted...just gotta have faith sometimes. I would have known sooner, but I'm busy establishing a new city down here in Louisiana. I'm kind of a big deal. :-D
February 29, 200817 yr Super!!! With the proposed streetcar, new jean robert at 12th and vine, the reopening of grammers, citys tallest and now the banks. There is some serious momentum going on! :clap:
February 29, 200817 yr Congratulations guys! :clap: I'll say this...with the amount of projects and the money being spent between the Cincinnati and Dayton urban cores over the next few years (not too mention the combined MSA in 2010), this region is going to become THEE place to live and play in the Midwest! I cannot wait to see the end result to all of this. History in the making!
March 1, 200817 yr Oh, this is so great. I remember when I first started looking at pictures of Cincinnati online. My VERY FIRST thought I had on seeing a shot of the skyline was, "What's up with that giant hole?" Luckily I decided to explore the city further and fell in love with it despite that hole. But hopefully people will no longer have this impression. Now, what exactly is included in Phase 1 (meaning what page of this thread do I have to go to) or does Building Cincinnati have a page on it? Also, what's the status of the Cincinnati Riverfront Park?
March 1, 200817 yr >Also, what's the status of the Cincinnati Riverfront Park? About a month ago I was walking across the suspension bridge at night and I saw a couple hobos gathered around an oil drum fire right at water's edge.
March 1, 200817 yr Even more info.... Work to start April 2 on Banks $74M in financing for first phase of project is secured BY KEITH T. REED | [email protected] The developers of The Banks have finally secured all $74 million needed to build the first phase of construction. They expect to break ground April 2, two days after the Reds play their first home game and a decade after city officials conceived a plan to develop an 18-acre tract of barren riverfront between Great American Ball Park and Paul Brown Stadium. The financing raised by Atlanta-based Carter & Associates Commercial Services LLC and the Harold A. Dawson Co. includes a $40 million senior loan from National City Bank and $12 million in equity from the developers. The remaining $22 million is from public or quasi-public sources - $10 million from the Cincinnati Equity Fund, a pool of money managed by the Cincinnati Center City Development Corp., and a $12 million grant from the city of Cincinnati and Hamilton County to be used for the residential portion. Staff writers Jessica Brown and Lisa Bernard-Kuhn contributed. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080301/NEWS01/803010377/1077/COL02
March 1, 200817 yr "Ellington, a 7-year-old consulting firm that oversaw inclusion efforts for the construction of the Freedom Center, will be charged with recruiting businesses to fulfill a goal of having 30 percent of the construction of The Banks done by minority- and women-owned businesses. And this means that the company I mentioned yesterday did not get its contract.
March 1, 200817 yr Now, what exactly is included in Phase 1 (meaning what page of this thread do I have to go to) or does Building Cincinnati have a page on it? http://www.building-cincinnati.com/2007/11/banks-block-by-block.html Also, what's the status of the Cincinnati Riverfront Park? From what I know, the Cincinnati Riverfront Park will also be done in phases. They will proceed as financing is available...from my understanding phase 1 is pretty much ready to go and will be done in a way that will compliment the construction of phase 1 for The Banks. The two entities have discussed this and the two should be complete at just about the same time. It should be noted that while it is desired that the CRP be constructed in conjunction with The Banks, it is not a necessity. The CRP can move forward on its own and stand on its own two feet as a successful park.
March 2, 200817 yr I think the excitement will kick in for me when I start to see bulldozers pouring in! Either way, good news!
March 9, 200817 yr Banks strives for inclusion Inclusion goal is big for small businesses BY KEITH T. REED | [email protected] Now that they have the money to build phase one and have set a groundbreaking date, the developers behind The Banks face another challenge: how to meet the project's unprecedented small-business contracting goals. The Banks is by far the most ambitious riverfront project ever conceived in Cincinnati, estimated to cost more than $800 million, spanning 18 acres, and expected to take a decade to complete.
March 18, 200817 yr Garage building to start at Banks in April BY JESSICA BROWN | [email protected] http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080318/NEWS01/803180336/1056/COL02 The first construction that the public will see on the Banks riverfront project will be parking garages between the National Underground Railroad Freedom Center and Great American Ball Park. A groundbreaking is scheduled at 3:15 p.m. April 2. A Banks official confirmed Monday that the garages, which will add 1,050 public parking spaces to the roughly 6,000 existing spaces on the riverfront, will be built first.
March 18, 200817 yr I have slightly paid attention to all the news about The Banks and I also haven't read through all 90 pages on this thread, but (I am sure I have seen them) have the architecture of the buildings been finalized? Does anyone have any info about that? Some potential renderings of what the buildings are going to look like? I have seen aerial and "color" renderings, but like I just said, are there any final renderings for the architecture for the development?
March 18, 200817 yr The most recent renderings we all have seen I'm sure are subject to some amount of change. If you would like a pretty good overview, check out the Enquirer's special section on The Banks. It has all the renderings and articles that the Enquirer touched on. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=newsbanks
March 18, 200817 yr Well I feel a little excited about shovels actually being turned. Also, could they go ahead and construct all the garages? I thought all the funding had been secured to build all of the garages necessary to elevate out of the flood plain. I'm sure the answer is in this thread but, well...you know.
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