February 16, 200916 yr "The outside world views us as one, even though we may view ourselves as individual communities," Deatrick said. Well it's about time someone came out and said that publicly. This sounds like a good idea for all involved.
February 16, 200916 yr I'm wondering. Since they've started building the pilons between bengals stadium and the freedom center, couldn't they just use that huge parking lot as the base ground floor for the garage? it's pretty much level already right?
February 18, 200916 yr Is the plan to complete Freedom Way this year? Work is under way on the block closest to the Bengals stadium, and obviously between Walnut and Main, but not between Vine and Race. If there is no plan to begin the parking garages west of the Freedom Center, why spend the money to extend Freedom Way?
February 18, 200916 yr If there is no plan to begin the parking garages west of the Freedom Center, why spend the money to extend Freedom Way? Because the bids are coming in lower than expected due to the bad economy and contractors looking for work. Material costs are also down as a result of the global economic downturn...making these improvements now makes cents long-term. The streets can easily be built and filled in later with parking decks and buildings on top of that. This is exactly what was done at Atlantic Station in Atlanta and they are still plugging in the pieces to that puzzle today - and it works fine.
February 18, 200916 yr This is ironic. Out of all the city arguing, all of the bad vibes we've gotten from the Banks all these years, we couldn't ask for it to be built at a better time lol.
February 18, 200916 yr The Enquirer has an updated The Banks photo section.... http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=AB&Dato=20090217&Kategori=NEWS01&Lopenr=902170810&Ref=PH making these improvements now makes cents long-term I guess it makes both sense and cents :wink:!
February 24, 200916 yr Banks project starts first above ground structure The Banks development along Cincinnati’s central riverfront will move forward Wednesday with the first concrete pour of the Freedom Way East garage, the first aboveground structure of the development. Full story text is available at http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2009/02/23/daily24.html
February 24, 200916 yr I find it puzzling that now that there is steady progress being made down there, that the Enquirer has dropped nearly ALL coverage of the Banks development...
February 24, 200916 yr I find it puzzling that now that there is steady progress being made down there, that the Enquirer has dropped nearly ALL coverage of the Banks development... No news is good news. touché
February 24, 200916 yr yeah a bit strange how when something good starts happening, they ignore it...
February 25, 200916 yr Video and pics too with link! I love how they are still starting these stories out with "Long awaited, lond delayed." Banks Project Finally Rising Above Street Level Reported by: Bill Price Email: [email protected] Photographed By: Dwayne Slavey Last Update: 9:19 am If you haven't taken a look at Cincinnati's riverfront lately, you may be surprised as The Banks Project passes a major visual milestone Wednesday morning. For the first time, crews began constructing some of the underground parking garage structures that will make up the base of The Banks grow above ground. Full story text is available at http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story/Banks-Project-Finally-Rising-Above-Street-Level/K2s5ZPgCF0KjPklAVTqlYQ.cspx
February 25, 200916 yr Since this is already a "shovel ready" project, there are questions over whether it is eligible for any of the federal stimulus money expected to start flowing into the Queen City. If the fact that the Banks has already broken ground prevents it from qualifying for federal stimulus money, maybe some aspects of the project that are only proposed will be able qualify. It would be great if federal stimilus money could be used to pay for the decks over FWW. Looking at those arial photos above and imagining what the final poduct will look like it is very clear that the decking over FWW is absolutely critical to integrating the Banks with the rest of downtown.
February 25, 200916 yr Interesting to see, in the fourth image or so on the WCPO website, the more complicated footing excavation for foundation work at the areas eventually to support buildings. Looks kind of like an archaeological dig...but all they have found so far is re bar.
February 25, 200916 yr It would be cool if a large archway was built on the west end of Freedom Way at the entrance to PBS as a sort of front door to the stadium. A person could stand in the middle of Freedom Way and looking west into the entrace to PBS and turn 180 degrees around and look east into an entrance to GABP.
February 25, 200916 yr Since this is already a "shovel ready" project, there are questions over whether it is eligible for any of the federal stimulus money expected to start flowing into the Queen City. If the fact that the Banks has already broken ground prevents it from qualifying for federal stimulus money, maybe some aspects of the project that are only proposed will be able qualify. It would be great if federal stimulus money could be used to pay for the decks over FWW. The first phase is under construction and funded. So this would not prohibit stimulus funds from flowing to infrastructure work for later phases, or the completely separate FWW decking. Garage work for the later phases would seem to be a relatively good use of stimulus funds as it will create jobs, is shovel ready and is a prominent local project.
February 25, 200916 yr ^ the large glass atrium on paul brown itself is as "front door" as anything needs to get. both of the stadia address the termination of freedom way in their architecture. much less impressive on GABP as compared to PBS...but addressed none the less.
February 25, 200916 yr If the fact that the Banks has already broken ground prevents it from qualifying for federal stimulus money, maybe some aspects of the project that are only proposed will be able qualify. It would be great if federal stimilus money could be used to pay for the decks over FWW. Looking at those arial photos above and imagining what the final poduct will look like it is very clear that the decking over FWW is absolutely critical to integrating the Banks with the rest of downtown. Ask and you shall receive.... Hamilton County Lays Out Stimulus Wish List Banks Project, Convention Center Among Requests POSTED: 1:41 pm EST February 25, 2009 UPDATED: 2:48 pm EST February 25, 2009 CINCINNATI -- Hamilton County says it's ready to spend whatever money it can get from the federal stimulus plan. County Commission President David Pepper released a report Wednesday detailing the projects that the county has requested funding for from the Ohio Federal Stimulus Initiative Web site. Among the projects with price tags attached: $306 million to accelerate the Banks project, including $100 million to fund the covering of Fort Washington Way for green space purposes $6 million for the Ancor Connector, designed to improve connectivity between State Route 32 and Broadwell Road in Anderson Township $4.4 million for repair and resurfacing of 7,100 feet of Galbraith Road Full story text is available at http://www.wlwt.com/money/18793810/detail.html
February 25, 200916 yr I'm starting to like that building on far left of jmecklenborg pic. Never really did until I seen different angles of it on here. edit. It needed to be a little bit more tall with the same width.
February 26, 200916 yr Banks project takes step forward The Enquirer • February 25, 2009 Work started today on the first part of The Banks development that's above ground. For months, site preparation and foundation work has been under way in a block south of Second Street between Main and Vine streets. This morning, workers started pouring concrete for the development's first elevated slab. The slab also will serve as an intermediate parking deck below Freedom Way, the road that will link all phases of the development together. Full story text is available at http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090225/BIZ01/902260302/1055/NEWS
February 26, 200916 yr Baker Concrete gets Banks bid HAMILTON CO. -- Hamilton County commissioners Wednesday awarded a $5 million bid package for street construction in The Banks riverfront development to Baker Concrete Construction Inc. Full story text is available at http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090226/NEWS01/902260368/1168/NEWS0101
February 26, 200916 yr Is the current Elm St. section in the Banks temporary? I have always had that feeling.
February 26, 200916 yr $1.3 million under bid is a huge chunk of change. Wow. Can we take this $1.3 million and "retask" it for the Streetcar? :)
February 26, 200916 yr It's amazing what economic collapse can do for the economics of construction. The benefits of counter-cyclical activity.
February 27, 200916 yr Dmerkow your absolutely right. Funny thing is, (if you believe in fate) it's like Cincy wasn't supposed to have The Banks until right now. Out of all the infighting, all the bickering, stalls, bad ideas, it's happening at the best time that it could. I aint complaining.
February 27, 200916 yr wow, if they are able to get funding for the fww caps, that would be incredible. With all the other projects going on, getting around to those was not much more than an afterthought. With the construction of freedom way between main and walnut, what are the chances of them implementing the tracks for the streetcar now as they build the road? Would be completely wasteful to have to do it later, especially when it could be in the very near future.
February 27, 200916 yr I'm really hoping they can execute a marina somewhere between the stadiums on the OH side.
February 28, 200916 yr I was told at one time by someone official that a marina wouldn't happen. I forget if it was because of the location of shipping lanes or the logistics of where the city sits on the bend of the river. Either way, don't hold your breath.
February 28, 200916 yr I was told at one time by someone official that a marina wouldn't happen. I forget if it was because of the location of shipping lanes or the logistics of where the city sits on the bend of the river. Either way, don't hold your breath. I thought the same thing. In one of the renderings though, there looks like what appears to be a marina closer to GABP area.
February 28, 200916 yr Yeah, I think the park plans include a small docking area though I don't know if I'd call that a marina. Maybe a small dock is acceptable but not a larger, protected sort of harbor.
March 1, 200916 yr A marina was drawn in near PBS where the gravel place is now. Don't know when or if that will ever happen, but it was set into the land to avoid any congestion in that narrow stretch of the Ohio River.
March 2, 200916 yr not to mention the super-high costs of removing that giant concrete/gravel operation
March 2, 200916 yr not to mention the super-high costs of removing that giant concrete/gravel operation Yeah, that's what I heard as well (probably back in this thread somewhere). They apparently do really well there, they have quick connections to everything.. river, every highway, rail. It's a prime location so I understand why they wouldn't want to move. Keeping the last bit of industry on the riverfront is a bit nostalgic to me, anyways. I like it.
March 3, 200916 yr More than you ever wanted to know about The Banks Last Wednesday, workers started pouring concrete for The Banks development's first elevated slab, which will serve as an intermediate parking deck below Freedom Way. The day before, Cincinnati City Council's Economic Development Committee (EDC) heard a report from the Office of City Manager Milton Dohoney Jr. and the City Banks Project Team on the status of the project, an update requested through a motion passed last November and further requested by the EDC on January 27. The following information was contained in that report... Full story text is available at http://www.building-cincinnati.com/2009/03/more-than-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about.html
March 3, 200916 yr Thanks for the update. And for the record, I doubt you could ever tell people on this forum "more than they ever wanted to know" about the Banks. ;)
March 4, 200916 yr Development team might rename The Banks Business Courier of Cincinnati Atlanta-based development firms building the massive project on Cincinnati’s riverfront are shopping for a new name. Carter and the Dawson Company announced today that they’re looking to rename the development commonly known as The Banks, with the help of Cincinnati and Hamilton County residents. Full story text is available at http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2009/03/02/daily40.html
March 4, 200916 yr "The Bottoms" is going to make a comeback. I can see it now. I like the Banks. Why mess with it
March 4, 200916 yr More than you ever wanted to know about The Banks http://www.building-cincinnati.com/2009/03/more-than-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about.html This does not answer one question posed by Mr. Cranley, "When can I drink a beer at the ESPN Zone?"
March 4, 200916 yr The Banks is an ok name, but none of the other new options really stand out at all, hmm...
March 4, 200916 yr I always thought it should be called the Bottoms for historical reasons, but develpers probably dont like the negative connotations associated with that name. Like naming a subdivision "Sudden Valley" (arrested development joke).
March 4, 200916 yr Those potential names suck as much as The Banks. No reason to change it if you're not going to tie it to Cincinnati. The Bottoms is my vote. edit: The Bottoms would be my vote if I wasn't forced to choose between a variety of generic suburban sounding development names.
March 4, 200916 yr In case anyone doesn't know what's going on...you can vote on a new name for "The Banks" or keep it as it is. You can do so by going to www.carterdawson.com and voting for the next 2 weeks. I went with "Park District" because I could see it people refering to it as the Park District of Downtown Cincinnati.
March 4, 200916 yr maybe not specifically historical to the spot but moreso historically significant to the city as a whole... such as, Losanti______ Losantiflats, Losantiquarter, Losantiward, or hell even Losantiville itself might work... But I agree, should be more unique, this isn't a development in Mason
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