March 13, 20196 yr More on the Toby Keith's fallout...the story is far from over. https://www.tennessean.com/in-depth/news/local/arizona-investigations/2019/03/13/mafia-frank-capri-behind-rascal-flatts-toby-keith-restaurant-failures/2337607002/
April 3, 20196 yr https://cagis.hamilton-co.org/opal/apd.aspx?QSPerm=2019P02771 Would this be for Lot 24? The address (10 E Mehring Way) seems to be west of Anderson Pavilion but different map services return different results.
April 3, 20196 yr On the Cagis site it states "This proposed garage is a part of the proposed new music venue. This is major amendment to the Banks Final Development Plan and needs to go through the process." Hopefully we actually get some movement soon because I think the music venue will really help for year-round street activity.
April 10, 20196 yr Jay Hanselman is reporting today that an agreement has been reached between the county and city to begin work on the new music venue.
April 10, 20196 yr Cool. Maybe they'll start working on getting Phase III together then... ? “All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.” -Friedrich Nietzsche
April 10, 20196 yr This Business Courier article has more information on the latest proposed deal: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/04/10/city-county-strike-deal-on-banks-music-venue.html Some public docs related to the proposal are available at: http://city-egov.cincinnati-oh.gov/Webtop/ws/council/public/child/ResultSet?w=doc_no%3D'201900608'&rpp=-10
April 10, 20196 yr So will the remaining lots be developed into a parking garage or is there still going to be a surface lot somewhere?
April 10, 20196 yr The garage is already complete. The remaining lots (1, 13, 24, 25) are hopefully going to be dense developments. In order to get the Bengals to sign on, they agreed to buy the Hilltop Concrete lot to the southwest of PBS and build out a tailgating area there.
April 10, 20196 yr It seems to me that another 150ish room hotel would be a layup to bookend down by PBS and add more people dining out in the area.
April 10, 20196 yr 15 minutes ago, 10albersa said: The garage is already complete. The remaining lots (1, 13, 24, 25) are hopefully going to be dense developments. In order to get the Bengals to sign on, they agreed to buy the Hilltop Concrete lot to the southwest of PBS and build out a tailgating area there. Lots 1, 13 and 25 still will have garages built to sustain development on top of them. So the garage is not complete per se. Here's more info on the Hilltop situation. Looks like the IDC that went before Planning Commission last Friday was an attempt to slow down the relocation. https://www.wvxu.org/post/one-step-forward-one-step-back-banks-music-venue#stream/ “All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.” -Friedrich Nietzsche
April 10, 20196 yr I bet if Hilltop moves, the already long-shot Price Hill Landing Park gets nixed for the new Hilltop site. According to the article, they want land in Lower Price Hill, and it seems like the only viable Lower Price Hill land available on the river would be the PHL site. What an FU that would be to the neighborhood. Right after 'officially' adopting their master plan.
April 11, 20196 yr Council restricts development on riverfront site, could affect music venue By Chris Wetterich – Staff reporter and columnist, Cincinnati Business Courier The Cincinnati City Council passed a measure on Wednesday that could delay a move by Hilltop Companies from its riverfront site and potentially delay the construction of a music venue at the Banks. Hamilton County plans to build a parking lot at the current Hilltop site south of Paul Brown Stadium to replace the tailgating space used by Cincinnati Bengals fans when a music venue is built adjacent to PBS. Fans currently tailgate on those lots, which will become parking garages and the podium on which the music venue would be built. MORE
April 12, 20196 yr County OKs Banks music venue deal, outlines potential opening date Hamilton County commissioners approved an agreement with the city on Thursday to finance the construction of parking garages needed in order to build a music venue at the Banks, with the goal of opening it by August 2020. Commissioners Todd Portune and Denise Driehaus voted for the agreement. Commissioner Stephanie Summerow Dumas voted against it, but did not say why. All three are Democrats. Details of the agreement can be found here. The county hopes the music venue, which will be developed by Music and Event Management Inc., a subsidiary of the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra, will boost retail and restaurants that have opened on the Banks, the mixed-use development along the city’s riverfront that includes apartments, bars, restaurants and General Electric’s Global Operations Center. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/04/11/county-oks-banks-music-venue-deal-outlines.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 12, 20196 yr With the other MEMI venue near the river already being called "Riverbend Music Center", what do we think they will call this one? Maybe go retro and call it "Riverfront Music Center"?
April 12, 20196 yr 5 hours ago, taestell said: With the other MEMI venue near the river already being called "Riverbend Music Center", what do we think they will call this one? Maybe go retro and call it "Riverfront Music Center"? That would guarantee people showing up at the wrong place for concerts into perpetuity Edited April 12, 20196 yr by thebillshark www.cincinnatiideas.com
April 12, 20196 yr 7 hours ago, taestell said: With the other MEMI venue near the river already being called "Riverbend Music Center", what do we think they will call this one? Maybe go retro and call it "Riverfront Music Center"? I heard or read "Riverview" Music Center or Theater in the past 24 hours but can't find the source yet. Edited April 12, 20196 yr by oakiehigh
April 12, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, oakiehigh said: I heard or read "Riverview" Music Center or Theater in the past 24 hours but can't find the source yet. Riverview is what is shown in the rendering, but like the famous "Chipelto" that might mean nothing. Edited April 12, 20196 yr by ucgrady
April 15, 20196 yr New renderings https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/04/15/here-s-what-the-banks-music-venue-will-look-like.html?iana=hpmvp_cinci_news_headline I think it kind of looks like a larger version of the Shakespeare theater. Hopefully construction starts soon and that this will be s catalyst for the other lot to get developed. I hate seeing a huge parking lot right next to an awesome park.
April 15, 20196 yr Hopefully the metal cladding is higher quality than Shakespeare Theater which would look a little cheap for such a prominent location on the riverfront. Overall I like it and I can't wait for Daft Punk to come to the Riverview in 2020.
April 15, 20196 yr Here’s what the Banks music venue will look like The developers of the Banks music venue released new renderings of the project last week as Hamilton County commissioners approved a financing deal for the garages needed to bring it out of the Ohio River’s floodplain. To take a look at the plans, click on the images above. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/04/15/here-s-what-the-banks-music-venue-will-look-like.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 15, 20196 yr 45 minutes ago, ucgrady said: Hopefully the metal cladding is higher quality than Shakespeare Theater which would look a little cheap for such a prominent location on the riverfront. Overall I like it and I can't wait for Daft Punk to come to the Riverview in 2020. Hopefully yes. I think a beer garden in the summer on lot 28 would be awesome.
April 15, 20196 yr 3 hours ago, ucgrady said: Hopefully the metal cladding is higher quality than Shakespeare Theater which would look a little cheap for such a prominent location on the riverfront. Overall I like it and I can't wait for Daft Punk to come to the Riverview in 2020. I wish I could say it would be something different, but since its the same architecture firm and same studio within the firm working on this project as the Shakespeare Theater, id say be ready for another shitty looking exterior facade. GBBN discovered what they think looks cool and modern and will most likely try to use it over and over again... #onetrickpony
April 16, 20196 yr The quality of the building materials usually has more to do with the client wanting to value-engineer the building down to save money, not because the architect is intentionally choosing low quality building materials. We'll see if MEMI is willing to spend some money to get a nice looking result, or if we're going to end up with PNC Pavilion at The Banks.
April 16, 20196 yr 15 hours ago, Ucgrad2015 said: Hopefully yes. I think a beer garden in the summer on lot 28 would be awesome. Is Lot 28 going to be private property? Also, when are we getting a Banks DORA? With the stadiums and Freedom Way, it is a prime location for one. Is it that they don't want these people spilling over into the riverfront parks with their bottles and cans and trashing the place? Edited April 16, 20196 yr by 10albersa
April 16, 20196 yr What ever happened to the boating dock that was supposed to be built on the banks?
April 16, 20196 yr 5 minutes ago, troeros said: What ever happened to the boating dock that was supposed to be built on the banks? The city needed to find matching funds, and it was all pushed to back burner when the fights broke out over the park board and Napoleon last year.
April 17, 20196 yr Council votes on Banks music venue, radio center After months of consideration and negotiation, the Cincinnati City Council on Wednesday approved a plan to finance the construction of the garages needed to build a music venue at the Banks. Under the deal, Hamilton County will pay for the construction of the garages, the cost of which is usually split 50-50, and the city will pay back the county later. More details can be found here. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/04/17/council-votes-on-banks-music-venue-radio-center.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 22, 20196 yr Company ready to move for music venue but needs new location The current plan to build a music venue at the Banks isn’t the first time Hilltop Companies has been asked to move its concrete and gravel plant around Cincinnati’s riverfront. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/04/22/company-ready-to-move-for-music-venue-but-needs.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 1, 20196 yr Hilltop proposes solution to clear way for Banks music venue Hilltop Companies proposed a new riverfront location on Tuesday for its concrete plant, storage area and barge terminal so that it can move from its current site just south of Paul Brown Stadium. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/04/30/hilltop-proposes-solution-to-clear-way-for-banks.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 9, 20196 yr Hamilton County commissioner: ‘Totally committed’ to music venue at the Banks Shortly after Corporex Cos. LLC, AEG Presents and PromoWest announced they will be building a $40 million indoor/outdoor music venue at the Ovation site in Newport, Hamilton County officials assured they still plan to move forward with a music venue at the Banks. Hamilton County Commission President Denise Driehaus released a statement that says “we are totally committed to moving forward on the music venue at the Banks.” “The venue fills a niche in our market, bringing hundreds of thousands of visitors each year who will patronize the retailers and restaurants at the Banks. An additional venue in Newport does not change our plans.” More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/05/09/hamilton-county-commissioner-totally-committed-to.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 20, 20196 yr City rejects Hilltop solution on Banks music venue The city of Cincinnati has rejected a proposal by Hilltop Companies that would move its concrete plant, storage area and barge terminal from its current site just south of Paul Brown Stadium, allowing Hamilton County to build a parking lot there, which would make way for a music venue at the Banks. The county needs to build a parking lot at Hilltop’s current site to allow for space for Cincinnati Bengals tailgating, so the music venue can be built on a current, surface parking lot adjacent to the stadium, under a county agreement with the Bengals. On April 30, Hilltop proposed the city convey up to 14 acres of riverfront property south of Mehring Way and east of Gest Street currently leased to Cincinnati Bulk Terminals to Hilltop. If Hilltop had that 14 acres along the riverfront, it could build its concrete plant, storage facility and loading terminal all in one spot. If it got 10 acres, it would locate the plant along Mehring Way and Freeman Avenue south of West Sixth Street. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/05/20/city-rejects-hilltop-solution-on-banks-music-venue.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 21, 20196 yr There is work going on at the retail space that has never been occupied closest to Smale (https://goo.gl/maps/dDtmMCGEDcoBLrF39).
May 21, 20196 yr That space always struck me as a good place to put a fancy cafe with some outdoor dining overlooking the Schmidlapp Event Lawn. Puzzling that it's been vacant since the building was built.
May 21, 20196 yr Considering that space has never been filled I would hope the rent has been dropped to entice someone. A business paying 70% of the old asking price is better then no business.
May 28, 20196 yr I'm surprised Cranley didn't ask them to explicitly set this stuff up along Main instead just to block the streetcar. “To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”
June 21, 20195 yr The Hamilton County Commissioners have approved construction of the parking garage needed for the pllaned music venue. The linked article says construction could begin next month. https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2019/06/20/bengals-allow-county-start-building-garage-music-venue-banks/1519366001/
June 21, 20195 yr https://local12.com/news/local/hamilton-county-working-to-keep-skystar-wheel-here-for-up-to-10-years Actually excited for this. For some reason something tells me skywheel newport will not happen.
June 21, 20195 yr 12 minutes ago, Ucgrad2015 said: https://local12.com/news/local/hamilton-county-working-to-keep-skystar-wheel-here-for-up-to-10-years Actually excited for this. For some reason something tells me skywheel newport will not happen. Is it sad that the thought of Skystar leaving our skyline would upset me more than the hudepohl smoke stack/brewery being demolished? The ferris wheel adds flair to our skyline and makes our city look modern at first glance. It just fits so we'll with our skyline that it would feel awkward to see it leave.
June 21, 20195 yr That's the real problem. The block of the banks that is wasted with a grass lawn, and a dumb, "sing the city" or whatever that sign is. Combined with how closed off and removed from the street the freedom center is, you end up with a block wide gap separating phase 1 of the banks from phase 2
June 21, 20195 yr I believe that area was left open so that the freedom center could have a clear view of the river. Pretty dumb imo but that's what I had heard. I'm sure the freedom center didn't care about a temporary ferris wheel going there but I'll be interested if they are ok with it staying for 10 years, or if they even have a say anymore. If the ferris wheel does stay hopefully they do some work around that area to make it look nicer. Right now it looks very temporary.
June 21, 20195 yr The slightly funny matter is that if you've ever been on the Skystar you'll notice that the views kinda suck because there is not much to look at on the KY side. But the ferris whell structure itself makes our skyline spark so much that you can omit the fact that the ferris wheel in it's functionality is kinda 'meh"
June 21, 20195 yr Something better has got to go there besides the lawn and wheel. We will look so dumb having two ferris wheels on the river.
June 21, 20195 yr I can't imagine that NURFC is mad about lines of people in front of their building waiting for a Ferris Wheel ride. I imagine they see it as an opportunity to get folks in the door who otherwise would not visit. It is an incredibly dense museum, with a lot of reading required (one of its shortcomings, IMO), but worth visiting multiple times. I've said it before, if Skystar is going to be permanent, then it needs to be situated within a constructed landscape that integrates with the rest of Smale/Banks. It cannot look like a carnival ride that just pulled up a week ago. Further, I think a wheel in Newport would still be successful. Just like the music venues: build them both.
June 21, 20195 yr 6 minutes ago, 10albersa said: Something better has got to go there besides the lawn and wheel. We will look so dumb having two ferris wheels on the river. People can start factions and shoot at each other from the wheels though. Like Command and Conquer or something
June 21, 20195 yr 8 minutes ago, Chas Wiederhold said: I can't imagine that NURFC is mad about lines of people in front of their building waiting for a Ferris Wheel ride. I imagine they see it as an opportunity to get folks in the door who otherwise would not visit. It is an incredibly dense museum, with a lot of reading required (one of its shortcomings, IMO), but worth visiting multiple times. I've said it before, if Skystar is going to be permanent, then it needs to be situated within a constructed landscape that integrates with the rest of Smale/Banks. It cannot look like a carnival ride that just pulled up a week ago. Further, I think a wheel in Newport would still be successful. Just like the music venues: build them both. It brings alot of tourists from the outside region to for whatever reason. Also you see alot ethnic families taking rides..it's an interesting mix.
June 21, 20195 yr not to be this guy... but also to be this guy... all families are ethnic. All else aside, I agree with you... there is tremendous diversity down at the Ferris Wheel. It's the Coca Cola of public attractions in this city right now.
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