June 24, 201410 yr It's much better than the 400 million offered to a failing company in Sears. I wonder if they would have did the same for Toyota? Hell offer Walmart 300 million and see where that goes. Yes it's all alot of money, but it builds momentum.
June 24, 201410 yr The problem is that with all these tax incentives, a small business cannot compete with these corporations. Wanna start making laundry detergent? Jet engines? These corporations have absolute strangleholds on particular products and services in part because they are awarded tax incentives by cities, states, and even the federal government.
June 24, 201410 yr Jake, They are mature industries. Mature industries have high barriers to entry and thus fewer competitors. There is nothing wrong with that. It is just difficult for a small business to start and compete in these areas. Now there are plenty of small businesses that compete as their suppliers and a lot of opportunity there. Heck, there are even opportunities for those suppliers to grow and become the big fish down the line. Look at Microsoft as an example.
June 25, 201410 yr The problem is that with all these tax incentives, a small business cannot compete with these corporations. Wanna start making laundry detergent? Jet engines? These corporations have absolute strangleholds on particular products and services in part because they are awarded tax incentives by cities, states, and even the federal government. I use this: http://www.nancyboy.com/viewcategories.asp You can get along in the world if you're smart.
June 25, 201410 yr I know a lot of people don't like the design of the GE building. But it looks like what they planned before we knew that GE was coming. Better than a parking lot
June 25, 201410 yr The problem is that with all these tax incentives, a small business cannot compete with these corporations. Wanna start making laundry detergent? Jet engines? These corporations have absolute strangleholds on particular products and services in part because they are awarded tax incentives by cities, states, and even the federal government. I use this: http://www.nancyboy.com/viewcategories.asp You can get along in the world if you're smart. I didn't see any detergent. Situation critical.
June 25, 201410 yr The problem is that with all these tax incentives, a small business cannot compete with these corporations. Wanna start making laundry detergent? Jet engines? These corporations have absolute strangleholds on particular products and services in part because they are awarded tax incentives by cities, states, and even the federal government. I use this: http://www.nancyboy.com/viewcategories.asp You can get along in the world if you're smart. I didn't see any detergent. Situation critical. Looks like 2525 West End in Nashville. Difficult to picture the final product based on the photos we have now.
June 25, 201410 yr GE deal done, now will there be a hotel at the Banks? Tom Demeropolis Reporter- Cincinnati Business Courier Now that the Banks has its first office tenant in General Electric, attention turns back to one component of the riverfront development that city of Cincinnati and Hamilton County officials have been clamoring for: a hotel. Both the city and the county wanted to have a hotel up and running at the Banks before Cincinnati’s 2015 MLB All-Star Game. Much to everyone’s dismay, that’s not going to happen, according to emails obtained through a public records request by the Business Courier. http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2014/06/25/ge-deal-done-now-will-there-be-a-hotel-at-the.html
June 25, 201410 yr ^ ...So what you're saying is subsidies don't distort the market? What I was saying is that economic development is about creating jobs and making sure taxpayer money is being prudently spent. Unfortunately, most startups do not offer the stability that a publicly traded multi-national does which is why they get better tax incentives, that is where communities and governments invest their pension funds, etc. Small business may not like it, but it is the prudent thing to do and the fair thing to do.
June 25, 201410 yr GE deal done, now will there be a hotel at the Banks? Tom Demeropolis Reporter- Cincinnati Business Courier Now that the Banks has its first office tenant in General Electric, attention turns back to one component of the riverfront development that city of Cincinnati and Hamilton County officials have been clamoring for: a hotel. Both the city and the county wanted to have a hotel up and running at the Banks before Cincinnati’s 2015 MLB All-Star Game. Much to everyone’s dismay, that’s not going to happen, according to emails obtained through a public records request by the Business Courier. http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2014/06/25/ge-deal-done-now-will-there-be-a-hotel-at-the.html Can someone explain why it would take "16-17" months to build a hotel?
June 25, 201410 yr Streetcar 2016. Hotel 2016. GE 2016. Bet they wish the All Star Game was in 2016. And yes. Carter fails again. Now that they have GE they should just fire CarterDawson and let people bid on individual blocks. Couldn't get a worse product than the barracks Carter built.
June 25, 201410 yr The problem is that with all these tax incentives, a small business cannot compete with these corporations. Wanna start making laundry detergent? Jet engines? These corporations have absolute strangleholds on particular products and services in part because they are awarded tax incentives by cities, states, and even the federal government. I use this: http://www.nancyboy.com/viewcategories.asp You can get along in the world if you're smart. I didn't see any detergent. Situation critical. It's there.
June 25, 201410 yr Because it's a big building? That doesn't seem out of the ordinary. How big is it going to be? If memory serves the Great American Tower only took about 24 months to build.
June 25, 201410 yr But that was with a significantly larger crew. What I'm saying is that this building is large enough that taking over a year to build and get ready for opening to customers isn't really uncommon. If they wanted to throw a ton of money at it and get it done quicker it could definitely happen but there isn't a reason to be finished before GE moves in, so why do anything more than a typical construction schedule?
June 26, 201410 yr Cincinnati needs an architecture critic writing for the Enquirer much like Inga Saffron for the Phila. Inquirer. She's pretty great. is always calling for increased attention to design, and recently won a Pulitzer. She would have a FIELD DAY with this GE building. http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/inga_saffron/
June 26, 201410 yr They also have to, you know, finish the design and do working drawings too. While that can sort of be done in tandem with construction, it still requires a certain amount of front-end work to get far enough ahead of the game.
June 26, 201410 yr Yeah I wouldn't put too much into the renderings released. For all we know they weren't even done by an architect. There's almost no doubt it's too early in the process for them to have a finalized design enough to make accurate renderings.
June 26, 201410 yr Because it's a big building? That doesn't seem out of the ordinary. How big is it going to be? If memory serves the Great American Tower only took about 24 months to build. Wasn't that just the exterior? They let tenants build out the space they were going to use. I don't think much information about the interior build-outs was made public. The hotel, obviously, must have the interior finished before operating.
June 26, 201410 yr The render was just part of a response to a request for proposals. Now that GE has accepted this developer’s proposal, the design will likely change as the architect sits down with GE and irons things out. It was likely as unassuming as possible in order to not lose out on the RFP because of a subjective opinion on the design, when the big selling point was the site.
June 30, 201410 yr lol, quite the "Exclusive" for the Enquirer. They remind me of the grandma from the Frank's Red Hot commercials. Exclusive: Jimmy John's at The Banks expanding Jimmy John's at The Banks is expanding, assuming 450 square feet from neighboring W.G. Kitchen & Bar. Brian Schaaf, a local franchise owner for Jimmy John's, said the expansion will add at least 40 seats to the sandwich shop. That location is currently almost exclusively carry-out and delivery, with only seven seats inside, plus an outdoor patio. "When we built the store, the only thing available was an 1,150-square-foot space," Schaaf said. "We get a lot of the baseball crowd with families coming in, and we really believe that it will help business to have more seating" during those times. Additional seating will also be a bonus with the late-night, post-bar crowd, he said. (The sandwich shop is open until 3 a.m. Fridays and Saturdays.) Cont "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
July 1, 201410 yr Phase 2 work from today: "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
July 3, 201410 yr Coming soon? Deal for new hotel at The Banks Bowdeya Tweh, [email protected] 6:41 p.m. EDT July 2, 2014 The Banks development in Cincinnati may be as close as its ever been to landing a hotel. Discussions with hotel developers and brands are continuing, but a deal could be announced as early as this fall, said Tom Gabelman, Hamilton County's lawyer for The Banks development. City and county officials and leaders of Cincinnati's professional sports teams have coveted a hotel for the mixed-use site for years. Since 2007, The Banks' development focus has been on making The Banks into a 24-hour-a-day, seven-day-a-week community that offers the chance to live, work and play in downtown Cincinnati. http://www.cincinnati.com/story/money/business/2014/07/02/banks-hotel-deal/12048569/
July 3, 201410 yr GE's design plans for Banks HQ? Think Dunnhumby Rob Daumeyer, Editor- Cincinnati Business Courier I was surprised this week to hear about General Electric's interior design plans for its 340,000-square-foot U.S. Global Operations center at the Banks. Surprised because I made some bad assumptions. I figured that since most of the 1,800 or so jobs GE was bringing to the building were in payroll, information technology, finance and human resources, we'd see row upon row upon row of traditional cubicles and offices. http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/blog/2014/07/ges-design-plans-for-banks-hq-think-dunnhumby.html
July 9, 201410 yr GE building design gets thumbs down from review board "I’m not sure they want to be the centerpiece of downtown" "GE is not willing to pay for an iconic building" http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2014/07/09/ge-building-design-gets-thumbs-down-from-review.html?ana=e_cinci_bn_breakingnews&u=gU2E+Yuaao/G3KQNJ2opoHrlOrQ&t=1404938083
July 9, 201410 yr Bahahahaha. I'm not the only one who thought that the box in the render from last month was just something an intern made as a space-filler. And then they actually trotted it in front of the review board.
July 9, 201410 yr When I saw the link I thought the exact same thing. "Wait, that crap was actually a rendering of the building they want to build?!"
July 10, 201410 yr Way less than impressed on the design, no doubt. But you know what? I'm just thrilled that development is going forward. The Banks architecture as it stands is pretty boring, but if it brings people down there then I'll let it slide.
July 10, 201410 yr While I'm not sure how to do it, I think that actually having a program where if you're getting tax breaks then the City has some authority to improve the aesthetic look of your building at the City's expense is a must. Given the fact that every major company expects to be bribed to locate their headquarters somewhere, it's crazy to think that these corporations are going to put any care into aesthetics. It's simply not something they do anymore because there is no social esteem from their peers regarding it (unlike when the Woolworth, Chrysler or Tribune buildings were being put up).
July 10, 201410 yr Fits right in at the Banks. Or Mason. Phase one: current@theBanks Phase two: Mason@theBanks
July 10, 201410 yr Fits right in at the Banks. Or Mason. Phase one: current@theBanks Phase two: Mason@theBanks lol
July 11, 201410 yr They chose Mason for the design and The Banks for the location. Oakley is still left out here.
July 11, 201410 yr They chose Mason for the design and The Banks for the location. Oakley is still left out here. "Hyde Park Adjacent @ The Banks"
July 11, 201410 yr I'm as uninspired by the boxes we are getting as anyone and I don't have near the architectural chops you guys do. At the same at least we don't have... FloodedinFebSurfaceLot@theBanks anymore. Well, for the most part. Smale is making TheBanks a tolerable accoutrement.
July 11, 201410 yr The Enquirer want to know what WE want... Want a GE building that looks like this? So what do we want the building to look like, if not GE's vision? We offer these 18 office buildings from around the world for inspiration. Tell us what you think. "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
July 11, 201410 yr longaberger@theBanks Isn't it for sale? a giant light bulb building or jet engine building would be cool.
July 11, 201410 yr The Enquirer want to know what WE want... Want a GE building that looks like this? So what do we want the building to look like, if not GE's vision? We offer these 18 office buildings from around the world for inspiration. Tell us what you think. Wow leave it to them to take it all the way to the other extreme just for clicks...
July 15, 201410 yr AIA take on GE building and The Banks, in general: http://www.architectmagazine.com/Architecture/general-electric-generic-building_o.aspx
July 17, 201410 yr The Enquirer want to know what WE want... Want a GE building that looks like this? So what do we want the building to look like, if not GE's vision? We offer these 18 office buildings from around the world for inspiration. Tell us what you think. Wow leave it to them to take it all the way to the other extreme just for clicks... They do know that the image they have of the Burj Kahlifa (163 stories) is actually the Burj Al Arab a sixty story resort hotel... I mean they have to know that right? (if not someone tell them http://www.emporis.com/building/burjalarab-dubai-unitedarabemirates) In short I was thoroughly disappointed, as most were, by the mere acceptance of what I assumed was done as a developer placeholder image by an employee who threw a sketchup model into a decent render software. Maybe what we were hoping for was a bit more like the Angelos Law Center, or KfW in Berlin, or the Arbil planned for Baghdad. Anything that would look responsive.
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