I generally hate modern architecture...to my eye, DAAP is dumpy and disjointed, Vontz is just trying too hard, for no conceivable purpose, and failing miserably - basically, something like the Ascent has no chance with me...

 

And yet, I absolutely adore it.  It's simply stunning - it's beautiful with its swoopy lines, the way it overhangs past the verticle on the back end, from every angle it's visually appealing.  You can see it on 50 in either direction, on 71, on 75 - and each view is different and fascinating.  It's always in motion, it's free, uplifted...I have no idea how he did it, what the elements are, but the final package is just gorgeous to me.

 

Of course, I do wonder what will happen when large amounts of snow melt/freeze into ice and come sliding off in huge sheets of death-dealing negligence...

 

 

That's a good point, I never thought about how the sheets of ice will slide off of there.  Yikes. :-o

 

Nevertheless, those are some damn sexy interiors--love the floor to ceiling windows.

There's a building in chicago (can't remember the name of it) that has a similar slope, except that it is a perfect diamond shape.  It's been there for a while, so I'm sure that there are ways to work around the ice problem.  Although that was the first thing I thought of when I noticed that building.

 

Also, seeing that picture, I am inclined to agree that the Ascent would have looked better if it was a little taller.  But that isn't taking in to account other considerations like coexistence with the rest of Covington's riverfront.  Just looking at it, it's clear that this is a fairly ambitious project for NKY already.  I'm actually surprised they went through with it, and I'm not so sure that it would be built at all if it were any taller/more complex.

It does look awfully stumpy from that last pic, but I'll still take it.  It has given the area a lot of hype and has further put the Cincinnati region as being a great area for architecture...new and old.

Dang.

 

 

Holy @#$% are you @#$@#ing serious!?!??! *Jaw drops to the floor*

Wow.

And I do like the exterior. It's a great shape and very eye-catching.

^It's no jenga building, but I'll take it.  :-D

While I would have liked to see it taller, I'll take this building any day. I feel that if it was taller, it could have left the market in more of a glut than it already is (overall speaking, not just in the Cincinnati market). Now, for the concrete base of the Ascent, will it feature an elevated park to go along with the theme of nature?

Of course, I do wonder what will happen when large amounts of snow melt/freeze into ice and come sliding off in huge sheets of death-dealing negligence...

 

 

Perhaps there is an anti-icing system akin to the type seen on some bridges.

Heated roof?

^It's no jenga building, but I'll take it.  :-D

 

I would like to see the ascent built on top of the jenga building.  it would be the world's largest piece of flair.

^It's no jenga building, but I'll take it.  :-D

 

I would like to see the ascent built on top of the jenga building.  it would be the world's largest piece of flair.

 

Post of the day, imo.

^It's no jenga building, but I'll take it.  :-D

 

I would like to see the ascent built on top of the jenga building.  it would be the world's largest piece of flair.

 

Now if we could just get 35 pieces of flair we would be the new Dubai!

If you could get 25 percent of all the cranes in the world, then you could be Dubai.

Wow, those are nice renderings. I'd probably put a wall around the kitchen, though, because I hate having the kitchen in the living room.

 

I love the living room/kitchen combo.

Some people prefer kitchens to be a separate room; I'd rather it be somewhat open. It's the heart of the house, usually where everyone hangs out, whereas living rooms become dead space. For that reason, I think it's best to have the two integrated.

Some people prefer kitchens to be a separate room; I'd rather it be somewhat open. It's the heart of the house, usually where everyone hangs out, whereas living rooms become dead space. For that reason, I think it's best to have the two integrated.

 

and youre screwed out of square footage.  In 8-10 years when "open concept" homes are a thing of the past.  what do you have?  A big cold old empty space!

and youre screwed out of square footage.  In 8-10 years when "open concept" homes are a thing of the past.  what do you have?  A big cold old empty space!

 

I totally disagree. By adding the living room to the kitchen it becomes space that's actually used. Living rooms tend to be one of the least used rooms in a home (at least it always has been for me) and the kitchen is sorta the hub of activity.

Exactly. There's no point in the extra square footage if it's not as functional. Family and friends always gravitate towards the kitchen for their most interesting conversations. People go to the living room to watch TV (boo!). I don't think big open kitchens are going anywhere. Especially with the increasing size of refridgerators, sinks, dishwashers, ovens, etc that people demand these days.

and youre screwed out of square footage.  In 8-10 years when "open concept" homes are a thing of the past.  what do you have?  A big cold old empty space!

 

I totally disagree. By adding the living room to the kitchen it becomes space that's actually used. Living rooms tend to be one of the least used rooms in a home (at least it always has been for me) and the kitchen is sorta the hub of activity.

 

I disagree.  My kitchen is the least used room.  but Im old fashioned I want a seperate dining, kitchen and living room.

 

I don't want to see dirty dishes, or smell food from the kitchen in the living room.  In an open floor concept you have to be really neat and you can't hide anything.  Any item you cook with an aroma you can smell throught the house.  I don't want to be in the kitchen "area" and looking at the dining "area".

 

Those "grand room" type homes are NOT cute to me.

Some people rinse their dishes and put them in the dishwasher aftewards!

 

I see absolutely nothing wrong with the aroma of food pervading throughout the house. I think it's safe to say most people spend a lot of time in the kitchen, so people being exposed to it is inevitable. I don't see how an open plan is going to effect resale value of a house.

Some people rinse their dishes and put them in the dishwasher aftewards!

 

I see absolutely nothing wrong with the aroma of food pervading throughout the house. I think it's safe to say most people spend a lot of time in the kitchen, so people being exposed to it is inevitable. I don't see how an open plan is going to effect resale value of a house.

 

are you a home owner now?

Irrelevant. But I lived in my mom's house after they moved out, went through 3 realtors and I've heard all the comments from potential buyers; what they want and don't want in a house. Basically, a house with a small kitchen, small rooms, purple carpet as opposed to hardwood, and one bathroom wasn't going to make the place sell. It did have really nice bay windows though.

Our kitchen is separated off, and I'll admit that's nice when the dishwasher is running...other than that, I'd prefer an open kitchen.  When we have two friends over, we're all in the kitchen, one or two of us standing and cooking, the others sitting; when we have more than two friends over, then a couple folks are standing, someone's sitting on the stairs, we're all jammed in there...it would be so much nicer to have the kitchen open to the living area, with places for folks to sit, but still be involved in the kitchen fun...

 

But's it's different strokes for different folks on this one...

 

Irrelevant. But I lived in my mom's house after they moved out, went through 3 realtors and I've heard all the comments from potential buyers; what they want and don't want in a house. Basically, a house with a small kitchen, small rooms, purple carpet as opposed to hardwood, and one bathroom wasn't going to make the place sell. It did have really nice bay windows though.

 

not it isn't.  But I guess that means "no".

 

You went through three?  In a situation like the above, you perform the upgrades to the Kitchen, where you'll get 85-90% of your return back; you install or refurbish hardwood floors; you reinvent that sole bathroom into a single household masterbath, where you'll get 80-90% return on your investment.  

 

You enhance every positive feature of the home and neutralize the negatives.  Pull out any hidden potential and curb appeal.

 

An open floor plan does not allow for (enhancements) changes at minimal cost.  Say you want to add/open/alter that "great room" leave you with little flexibility and high project cost.

Exactly. There's no point in the extra square footage if it's not as functional. Family and friends always gravitate towards the kitchen for their most interesting conversations. People go to the living room to watch TV (boo!). I don't think big open kitchens are going anywhere. Especially with the increasing size of refridgerators, sinks, dishwashers, ovens, etc that people demand these days.

 

No no, you've got it all wrong. TVs don't belong in living rooms, they go in dens. What's in the kitchen? Food? Food should be in the dining room. U.S. fatties hang out in the kitchen to have an excuse to eat constantly. Booze is in the kitchen... right? No! If you like to entertain, you should have a wet bar. Keep Yankees out of the kitchen. We are so zombied out on being around the food all the time that we don't even see the alternatives.

Pardon me for my zombie-dom, but this Yankee is going to continue to entertain friends in the kitchen while cooking AND drinking...

 

Irrelevant. But I lived in my mom's house after they moved out, went through 3 realtors and I've heard all the comments from potential buyers; what they want and don't want in a house. Basically, a house with a small kitchen, small rooms, purple carpet as opposed to hardwood, and one bathroom wasn't going to make the place sell. It did have really nice bay windows though.

 

not it isn't.  But I guess that means "no".

 

You went through three?  In a situation like the above, you perform the upgrades to the Kitchen, where you'll get 85-90% of your return back; you install or refurbish hardwood floors; you reinvent that sole bathroom into a single household masterbath, where you'll get 80-90% return on your investment.  

 

You enhance every positive feature of the home and neutralize the negatives.  Pull out any hidden potential and curb appeal.

 

An open floor plan does not allow for (enhancements) changes at minimal cost.  Say you want to add/open/alter that "great room" leave you with little flexibility and high project cost.

How are you going to tell me my point isn't valid because I didn't own the home? I lived there after my parents moved to a different city, meaning, I met with the realtor and potential buyers. I coordinated all the repairs and upgrades, and I answered all the questions. I The kitchen and bathroom WERE upgraded. Unfortunately, and any realtor will tell you this, you can't sell a house on an upgraded Kitchen and bathroom. People come into the house expecting it. The carpet was top of the line and recently installed so we figured we'd leave it and if they wanted hardwood floors, they could rip up the carpet themselves, exposing the hardwood underneath. Those upgrades are a lot easier than changing the layout of the house. In addition to people wanting more room to cook, they want more room for people near the kitchen and more room for appliances. The way our house was, we had a small dining room and small living room. Dining rooms are increasingly obsolete.  People would rather have giant kitchens and giant greatrooms. People don't want to separate uses as much as they used to and I don't think that's going to change any time soon. Many people have large peices of furniture and large entertainment centers that won't fit in small livingrooms, whereas if the livingroom and dining room were combined, it would all fit, plus there would still be room for a table. When my mom moved into her new house, the open floor plan allowed her furniture to fit much easier.

Irrelevant. But I lived in my mom's house after they moved out, went through 3 realtors and I've heard all the comments from potential buyers; what they want and don't want in a house. Basically, a house with a small kitchen, small rooms, purple carpet as opposed to hardwood, and one bathroom wasn't going to make the place sell. It did have really nice bay windows though.

 

not it isn't.  But I guess that means "no".

 

You went through three?  In a situation like the above, you perform the upgrades to the Kitchen, where you'll get 85-90% of your return back; you install or refurbish hardwood floors; you reinvent that sole bathroom into a single household masterbath, where you'll get 80-90% return on your investment.  

 

You enhance every positive feature of the home and neutralize the negatives.  Pull out any hidden potential and curb appeal.

 

An open floor plan does not allow for (enhancements) changes at minimal cost.  Say you want to add/open/alter that "great room" leave you with little flexibility and high project cost.

How are you going to tell me my point isn't valid because I didn't own the home? I lived there after my parents moved to a different city, meaning, I met with the realtor and potential buyers. I coordinated all the repairs and upgrades, and I answered all the questions. I The kitchen and bathroom WERE upgraded. Unfortunately, and any realtor will tell you this, you can't sell a house on an upgraded Kitchen and bathroom. People come into the house expecting it. The carpet was top of the line and recently installed so we figured we'd leave it and if they wanted hardwood floors, they could rip up the carpet themselves, exposing the hardwood underneath. Those upgrades are a lot easier than changing the layout of the house. In addition to people wanting more room to cook, they want more room for people near the kitchen and more room for appliances. The way our house was, we had a small dining room and small living room. Dining rooms are increasingly obsolete.  People would rather have giant kitchens and giant greatrooms. People don't want to separate uses as much as they used to and I don't think that's going to change any time soon.

 

Well maybe it was the upgrades  you chose.  I've never had a problem upgrading and increasing the value of my multi roomed home.  you should have consulted me.  lol

Hey...here's a dead horse.  Lets beat it!

I know! Every time I say I like an open floorplan me and MTS get into it lol Sorry.

I know! Every time I say I like an open floorplan me and MTS get into it lol Sorry.

 

That's 'cause you whippersnappers don't know anything about home design.  You say you want more space, why?  Who really needs a home that large, although I'm a hypocrite when it comes to home size, but it was by accident! 

 

Learn to make less - more!  dang nabbit!

I know! Every time I say I like an open floorplan me and MTS get into it lol Sorry.

 

That's 'cause you whippersnappers don't know anything about home design.  You say you want more space, why?  Who really needs a home that large, although I'm a hypocrite when it comes to home size, but it was by accident! 

 

Learn to make less - more!  dang nabbit!

 

Isn't that essentially what open floor plans do...allow you to make more out of open/combined spaces?  I'm seriously asking...I'm not an interior designer or an architect/structural engineer.

damn you!

A wall is 12in thick or less these days.

No no, you've got it all wrong. TVs don't belong in living rooms, they go in dens. What's in the kitchen? Food? Food should be in the dining room. U.S. fatties hang out in the kitchen to have an excuse to eat constantly. Booze is in the kitchen... right? No! If you like to entertain, you should have a wet bar. Keep Yankees out of the kitchen. We are so zombied out on being around the food all the time that we don't even see the alternatives.

 

OK, I think I might have come across like a bit of an ass here. I was still pumped up after playing at at Sneaky Pete's Milford (look at the time). The overweight and obesity thing today really frustrates me, especially the fact that there are twice as many overweight and obese women as men. That is a fact not reported on TV, lest TV upsets its legion of sedentary female viewers. Any one of the MANY factors that contribute to this monumental problem upset me.

I'm not sure what it is about the kitchen but you can't deny that people tend to gravitate to it (assuming there's enough room for them to fit). I know that when I come home the first thing I do is open the fridge, knowing damn well there is nothing new in it. Food is one of our basic primal drives; maybe it just makes us feel comfortable to be near it. And no, that post doesn't make you sound like an ass, if that post is bad then I know there are about 50 people wanting to lynch me for my posts lol

I sometimes just rest my head in the refridgerator for a relaxing evening.  I've got a cool place to rest and plenty of food, easily accessible.

I guess it depends on who you are.  The kitchen is the last place I want to be.  Now the bathtub....that's a whole different ballgame!

Ascent opens doors Jan.

New luxury condo postpones opening day

BY MIKE RUTLEDGE | [email protected]

 

COVINGTON - At least 51 families should start the new year in high style - moving into the 22-story luxury condominium tower, Ascent at Roebling's Bridge.  That's a bit later than the rosier estimate of November.  "We expect to be moving people in in January," said Deb Vicchiarelli, chief marketing officer for the developer, Covington-based Corporex Cos.  "November was always our most aggressive desire."

 

Under the purchase contracts, "we're well within the time frame that we contractually agreed to deliver these in - it's just that these are a remarkable piece of construction," she said. Construction started in November 2005 on the Daniel Libeskind-designed crescent-shaped tower, which is wider at the top than at its base.

 

"We have 51 of 72 (units) sold," Vicchiarelli said.  The largest and highest penthouse, the three-story "Pinnacle" with 35-foot ceilings and a $5.5 million asking price, remains available.

 

Full article at http://news.nky.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20070907/NEWS0103/709070355

"City officials have said about 80 percent of buyers are moving from Ohio."

 

That stinks...

 

 

Hey...here's a dead horse.  Lets beat it!

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"City officials have said about 80 percent of buyers are moving from Ohio."

 

That stinks...

 

 

No it doesn't. It's the same metro area. Hell, it's right across from our downtown; who cares?

"City officials have said about 80 percent of buyers are moving from Ohio."

 

That stinks...

 

 

No it doesn't. It's the same metro area. Hell, it's right across from our downtown; who cares?

 

True, it's not as bad as 'they' want you to think ...

 

I know a couple that is planning on moving from NKY to Cincinnati in about a year. This is the part that you don't hear about. (hell, I did recently! ;) )

Cincinnati and NKY have a symbiotic relationship. When are people going to wake up and realize we need to think regionally?!?

agreed, but tell that to Northern Kentuckians...ites...eeerrr...

Heck, half my family moved from kentucky to Ohio. It's a pride thing, that & they wanted a good job. :clap:

It's a sexier story for the media to tell about people leaving Ohio for Kentucky...or leaving the city for the suburbs.  An editor from the Enquirer once told me that they have the facts and then use them to tell whichever story they feel their readers want to hear.  Since most of the Enquirer's circulation growth is occurring in the outlying 'burbs you can expect this kind of stuff to continue.

 

Hey...here's a dead horse.  Lets beat it!

toledo country music

 

LOL!

No offense to Kentucky but would the Ascent project have even been feasible without Cincinnati's wealth? I doubt it. Many of the projects probably wouldn't be self sustaining if they drew strictly from Kentucky. We're doing them a favor, similar to Hyde Park doing Norwood favors.

^or without the views of cincinnati's skyline

No offense to Kentucky but would the Ascent project have even been feasible without Cincinnati's wealth? I doubt it. Many of the projects probably wouldn't be self sustaining if they drew strictly from Kentucky. We're doing them a favor, similar to Hyde Park doing Norwood favors.

 

Yeah but the wealthy Cincinnatians wouldn't be able to fly back and forth between Europe without Northern Kentucky. 

 

Also, Northern Kentucky isn't really "Kentucky", but I think most people know that.