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On 12/29/2020 at 12:38 AM, mrnyc said:

^ no it wasnt only recently popular it was always an immediate staple from the moment it was unfortunately spawned, in part because of the song itself and in part because mc used to be very popular. i suppose it could be only recently popular to you in cinci given the 20yr delay thing there still holds lol.

 

 

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^ yep, as you can see that song has been an earworm since day one. mariah carey used to be a force in pop culture. mocked for those goofy trilly vocal runs she can't do anymore, sure, but she sold a lot of records and many of those fans have remained loyal today. it's interesting because this is probably how trump's fandom will age. he'll still be a diva.

Yeah the stuff that sounds like Iron Maiden playing guitar solos on the high E string is certainly not for everyone but it's not easy to do.

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Wow, so sad. I just saw this girl chatting with Lars from Metallica on a podcast.  I hadn't heard of her.  She seemed cool.  Apparently she just played Saturday Night Live last Saturday.  This song started off weak but I owed her one song.  It never goes anywhere and then she does a pathetic, scripted guitar smashing.  It's like the weakest guitar smashing of all-time.  I saw it as emblematic of her whole generation's musical impotence. 

 

The smashing starts at 4:20.  Go back to smoking legal weed, softie:

 

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8 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

Wow, so sad. I just saw this girl chatting with Lars from Metallica on a podcast.  I hadn't heard of her.  She seemed cool.  Apparently she just played Saturday Night Live last Saturday.  This song started off weak but I owed her one song.  It never goes anywhere and then she does a pathetic, scripted guitar smashing.  It's like the weakest guitar smashing of all-time.  I saw it as emblematic of her whole generation's musical impotence.

 

 

Our generation brought the world Nu-Metal. That's unequivocally worse.

21 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

 

Our generation brought the world Nu-Metal. That's unequivocally worse.

 

Disagree.  At least the Nu Metal guys had enough sense to keep synthesizers and violins off the stage.  Plus, they were all from military or near-military families. 

 

There is also a big difference between music when smoking cigarettes was legal but marijuana wasn't.  Now it's the complete opposite. 

43 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

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Reminded me of this incident, which I remember watching live.  An unscripted stunt that goes terribly wrong:

 

 

 

Nu-Metal had scratchboards instead of synths and violins.

On 2/11/2021 at 9:54 PM, jmecklenborg said:

Wow, so sad. I just saw this girl chatting with Lars from Metallica on a podcast.  I hadn't heard of her.  She seemed cool.  Apparently she just played Saturday Night Live last Saturday.  This song started off weak but I owed her one song.  It never goes anywhere and then she does a pathetic, scripted guitar smashing.  It's like the weakest guitar smashing of all-time.  I saw it as emblematic of her whole generation's musical impotence. 

 

The smashing starts at 4:20.  Go back to smoking legal weed, softie:

 

 

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

i was talking with somebody about that brief era of the late 80s-early 90s before grunge ruined everything when pop music was wide open with shoegaze being a thing. it came up that this year in the 30th anniversary of the mbv's masterpiece loveless (1991) -- how the time flies!

 

i had no idea there were actual videos for this record, but i guess i was too busy to notice back then -- its no its surprize.

 

 

 

this one is earlier from the 80s and its mbv's most notorious. mbv shows are judged by how long the holocaust middle section of white noise in this song is sustained, sometimes 15min or more -- below is a short rock tv show version. i have seen them live twice and let me tell it is really something, your whole body vibrates and you practically float off the ground. absolutely you needed earplugs haha -- 

 

 

20 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

i was talking with somebody about that brief era of the late 80s-early 90s before grunge ruined everything when pop music was wide open with shoegaze being a thing. it came up that this year in the 30th anniversary of the mbv's masterpiece loveless (1991) -- how the time flies!

 

i had no idea there were actual videos for this record, but i guess i was too busy to notice back then -- its no its surprize.

 

 

 

this one is earlier from the 80s and its mbv's most notorious. mbv shows are judged by how long the holocaust middle section of white noise in this song is sustained, sometimes 15min or more -- below is a short rock tv show version. i have seen them live twice and let me tell it is really something, your whole body vibrates and you practically float off the ground. absolutely you needed earplugs haha -- 

 

 

How can you talk shogaze/navelgaze/whatever you wanna call it and not include Grey Cell Green?

 

14 minutes ago, Ineffable_Matt said:

How can you talk shogaze/navelgaze/whatever you wanna call it and not include Grey Cell Green?

 

Ha! That was the one cover song my band in college would play. We had a friend who would come up and sing that one, and play the extra bass part. 

 

Desire!!!!!    

22 minutes ago, Ineffable_Matt said:

How can you talk shogaze/navelgaze/whatever you wanna call it and not include Grey Cell Green?

 

 

ha well ok if you want to talk who owes a debt to mbv ... the list is long 😂

Bleach were a brilliant 90s shoegaze band that most people, especially outside the UK, have never heard of. In a fair world they would’ve been huge. 

Not to be confused with the former Japanese band, or the current US Christian-rock band that share the same name. 
 

 

My hovercraft is full of eels

6 minutes ago, roman totale XVII said:

Bleach were a brilliant 90s shoegaze band that most people, especially outside the UK, have never heard of. In a fair world they would’ve been huge. 

Not to be confused with the former Japanese band, or the current US Christian-rock band that share the same name. 
 

 

That definitely sounds like a British song from the 90s. Its good, but not my tempo.

9 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

 

ha well ok if you want to talk who owes a debt to mbv ... the list is long 😂

MBV is good and gets namechecked a lot, but they are overrated in my opinion.

This is probably my favorite 80s British export

 

 

2 minutes ago, Ineffable_Matt said:

MBV is good and gets namechecked a lot, but they are overrated in my opinion.

 

perhaps -- but they do have a perfect album and a few other perfect songs, like ymmrealise above.

 

you seem to like the pop more than the dirge/drone aspects.

when somebody asks me what is my fav 80s pop rock band it's always been the replacements.

 

when somebody asks me my fav 80s pop rock song, i usually say this nugget:

 

 

 

so naturally there was a meeting of minds on these two things ...

 

 

 

^ back in those days i always thought that song was about the usual rock topic of relationships.

 

i was kind of shocked to find out much later that turns out it was, but not what you would think.

 

its about heroin.

 

and so freaking obviously .. i just felt really dum when i heard that or figured it lol.

6 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

^ back in those days i always thought that song was about the usual rock topic of relationships.

 

i was kind of shocked to find out much later that turns out it was, but not what you would think.

 

its about heroin.

 

and so freaking obviously .. i just felt really dum when i heard that or figured it lol.

That slaps. I like the Replacements version better perhaps. Let it Be and Pleased to Meet Me are masterpieces.

^ you forgot tim, the one in the middle of those lol. thats great too. but so are their earlier punkier records for that matter, like the stink ep for example. just the greatest rock band ever maybe.

 

defintely read the bio book on the replacements called trouble boys, its an entertaining and sad textbook of stories about how to self destruct your career.

Tim is great, too (Left of the Dial, Little Mascara, and Here Comes a Regular are the best of the bunch). Def should've mentioned it. My favorite anecdote about the Replacements is that they wanted to name the record after Let it Be Let it Bleed. The stones on Westerburg, et al.!

I've been listening to a lot of LCD Soundsystem lately (All My Friends is a total jam), and went down a rabbit hole of stuff he sampled. That's how I came across Jamaica Running. It slaps, but def not for everyone.

 

 

  • 2 weeks later...

^ ha -- funny you like and mention lcd -- an old friend is in that band. 👍

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I'm confused... record companies or whoever owns the publishing gets a cut of the concert ticket sales? That seems ridiculous. Not enough that they make a killing from merch? Musicians themselves don't seem to monetize much from streaming in this era. When you're a Youtube partner, I heard you make something like $3k per million views... That doesn't even seem like enough to cover the cost of producing a music video for a mega-star. I'm sure companies like Spotify pay pennies on the dollar compared to what artists made from radio and record sales, even when giving fans "The Nice Price." I'm sure the vast majority of money generated by musicians is from ticket sales, followed by merch.

It's so easy now to market yourself with social media and there's so many people out there who you can hire to help you and pay in creative ways with some sort of equity, I don't know why anyone would sign away their rights and publishing by going with big labels like Interscope, Columbia and the like. They provide a lot of resources for you but hell, do you even need a million dollar studio anymore? Pro Tools software is so advanced and pro equipment like microphones are so cheap. What are they going to do, help get you on MTV?! Lmao.

Merchandising is still really big with those classic rock bands. I would buy merch for classic bands like Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Van Halen, Guns n Roses, etc. I love that stuff. The music is timeless. Those classic bands or whoever owns their catalogue, also make money from current artists covering their songs. I can't imagine though, how much time and money goes into keeping track of newer artists that use their material without permission!

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  • 2 weeks later...

this band turnstyles from baltimore has a very nicely done long form video to support their new ep:

 

 

 

  • 2 weeks later...

this is an old video by supergrass, but really its more of a light hearted and well made documentary about weeki watchee in florida —

 

it was new to me and i found it to be summery and very charming:

 

 

 

celebrate the height of summer with triumph the insult dog and his favorite target bon jovi in nj  😂

 

 

 

It was an instant classic. "Crawl back in the butt from whence you came, you give poop a bad name "

I've been playing Stiff Little Finger's Go For It album almost exclusively for the past couple of weeks. This is the opening track:

 

  • 2 weeks later...

^ good one!

 

welp dang —-

 

paul’s boutique

 

released 32yrs ago as of today

 

 

3 hours ago, mrnyc said:

^ good one!

 

welp dang —-

 

paul’s boutique

 

released 32yrs ago as of today

 

 

Their best work!  

Just in case anybody doesn't think they play live....

 

 

  • 1 month later...

EPIC, EPIC RNR:

 

DEAD COWBOY
BY LIGHTNING BOLT
LIVE @ TAICOCLUB 2014

 



IT’S SAID THE DRUMMER LIFTED OFF THIS EARTH AND TODAY IS THOUGHT TO BE FLOATING AROUND JUPITER STILL JAMMIN WITH ELON MUSK’S TESLA STARMAN.

song of the day is

 

a cover of the bee gees

 

you should be dancing

 

by the foo fighters

 

 

trolling the westboro baptist church

😂

 

 

On 8/31/2021 at 1:50 PM, mrnyc said:

EPIC, EPIC RNR:

 

DEAD COWBOY
BY LIGHTNING BOLT
LIVE @ TAICOCLUB 2014

 



IT’S SAID THE DRUMMER LIFTED OFF THIS EARTH AND TODAY IS THOUGHT TO BE FLOATING AROUND JUPITER STILL JAMMIN WITH ELON MUSK’S TESLA STARMAN.

I love how the bass player, at 1:40, reaches up to adjust his tuning.   As if he knew the difference when plotting to kill his parents in the basement of their church the following weekend.  

  • 1 month later...

first live music concert since the pandemic

was the magnetic fields

at city winery pier sunday night 

it was rescheduled like 3x over the pandemic

 

i think they probably adjusted their setlist to be a bit more friendly/hit heavy

they were funny & great as always

 

it was just nice to go out and enjoy some live entertainment again

also, to hang out a little afterward and see some of the post village halloween parade costume party-ers

 

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I have discovered(finally!) Post Modern Jukebox. Damn can they arrange songs into classy stuff. And Haley Reinhart is making me question whether I might actually be bisexual! She is amazing and an incredible singer with magical vocal talents and is also so damn pretty and sexy as hell!

 

channeling Sister Rosetta Tharpe. Well, not according to one disgruntled commenter who had issues with this apparently less than respectful cover. What's wrong with people? lol

 

 

  • 2 weeks later...

 

we went to another old make-up show from covid delays --

 

luna

white eagle hall

jersey city

last night

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

we went to the owl in crown heights, brooklyn last night for hanksgiving.

 

the owl is a very small musicians type place that holds about 40 or so people.

 

it was their first reopening event after the long covid shutdown.

 

yes it was a hank williams show.

with 3 female & 3 male singers

taking turns with the band.

 

it was a great time -- and the owner served pumpkin pie afterward.

 

maybe a little uncomfortable after awhile in a tight space?

although of course they checked vaxx cards.

i dk anymore.

 

 

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On 11/13/2021 at 3:37 PM, mrnyc said:

 

we went to another old make-up show from covid delays --

 

luna

white eagle hall

jersey city

last night

 

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Did they play "Anesthesia"?? 

19 hours ago, surfohio said:

 

Did they play "Anesthesia"?? 

 

no, but i wish -- that one brings back memories -- but then again they all do!

 

it was a nice time to be with a crowd of people our own age -- and the band seemed very happy to just be back playing again --

 

luna

white eagle hall

jersey city

nov 12, 2021

 

 

Setlist

 

I Can't Wait

Chinatown

Sideshow by the Seashore

Tracy I Love You

Superfreaky Memories

Lost In Space

Still at Home

Malibu Love Nest

Kalamazoo

Bonnie and Clyde (Serge Gainsbourg cover)

Moon Palace

Corridors of Power (Dean Wareham cover)

Friendly Advice

 

Encore:

Most of the Time (Bob Dylan cover)

23 Minutes in Brussels

 

"Mashups that shouldn't work but do" on YouTube has some clever music combos.

 

Plus one can never go wrong with Kavinsky and Wolf Alice.

  • 2 weeks later...

dayton's own influential village voice music writer greg tate passed.

 

and not a peep of a mention in the dayton daily news -- shameful.

 

he loved all kinds of music, but especially his punk rock.

 

and he always put anything in the real world terms and how it related to black america.

 

we were going to see him for a dayton home of the funk event he sponsored at lincoln center a couple years ago, but it got snowed out.

 

 

 

 

Greg Tate, musician and leading hip-hop generation cultural critic, dies at 64

 

By Matt Schudel

Yesterday at 7:13 p.m. EST|Updated yesterday at 7:26 p.m. EST

 

more:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2021/12/08/greg-tate-dies/

 

 

 

 

Greg Tate, Influential Black Cultural Critic, Dies at 64

 

His writing for The Village Voice and other publications helped elevate hip-hop and street art to the same planes as jazz and Abstract Expressionism.

 

By Clay Risen

Published Dec. 8, 2021Updated Dec. 9, 2021, 10:35 a.m. ET

 

 

Greg Tate, a journalist and critic whose articles for The Village Voice, Rolling Stone and other publications starting in the 1980s helped elevate hip-hop and street art to the same plane as jazz and Abstract Expressionism, died on Tuesday in New York City. He was 64.

 

His daughter, Chinara Tate, confirmed the death. No cause was given.

 

more:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/08/arts/music/greg-tate-dead.html

 

 

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Greg Tate in 2016. (Nisha Sondhea/Duke University Press)

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