^ oh now that is freakin rad.

 

and i just listened to mj's thriller with vox only and thought that was lol.

we are deep in the tongues out era -- 🙌

 

 

 

 

 

let’s b cool —

 

 

 

sit down ya hipsta kidz -- its already been done  😎

 

 

 

 

 

 

That visit to the food cart was a lot more phallic than I remember as a kid.

 

 

This was the first time I ever heard about "pot":

 

 

Man this stuff's starting to seem really old. Sometimes I can't believe I was even alive at all during the '80s -- let alone through the whole thing.

19 hours ago, GCrites80s said:

That visit to the food cart was a lot more phallic than I remember as a kid.

 

 

 

things were more innocent back then! When the Broadway shows of the day were being shown in the video I laughed when I saw the sign for Raquel Welch in The Woman of the Year, which originally starred Lauren Bacall. Anyway when Welch replaced her she got a not half bad review in the New York Times from the fearsome critic then, Frank Rich, so I was able to get what was basically a comp ticket to see it. I'm not saying Raquel Welch was awfully awful, but she was a little bland at best. I guess Rich (who went on to do political "punditry"...ahem🙄) must have been bedazzled by some other assets. Welch is 82 now.

now this right here is how you celebrate summer lol — july 4, 1989 on the dc mall w/ 11 mins of the surfers special blend of rnr madness:

 

 

 

it’s beginning to look a lot like schvitz weather:

 

 

september gurls got it bad --

 

this world was just too much ... or maybe not enough ... for chris bell and alex chilton -- andy hummel left music to work for lockheed martin and he died too in 2010, so only stephens is alive today -- rip.

 

this is as close to a big star reunion as it ever got with chilton and jody stephens assisted by the posies, jon auer and ken stringfellow --

 

april 25, 1993 at univ of missouri

 

 

The youtube "reaction" video genre has expanded into the reaction compilation genre. 

 

It's comical to me that these reactors experienced (or as likely feigned) such a profound impact to this song.  This thing was taken in stride by the American public when it came out in 1994 or 1995.  I remember the guy who I carpooled with at the time dismissively joking that "I think this is the heaviness threshold of this band", or some such.  He now works for NPR.  It's like, there was a heaviness base line back then - people who eventually ended up at National Public Radio used to barely notice Drop D played through Marshall stacks.  Plus, half of these reviewers seem to be completely unfamiliar with Ireland and its folk music.  This song predated the Good Friday agreement by several years  but the action had already diluted in the early 1990s.    

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Lazarus said:

The youtube "reaction" video genre has expanded into the reaction compilation genre. 

 

It's comical to me that these reactors experienced (or as likely feigned) such a profound impact to this song.  This thing was taken in stride by the American public when it came out in 1994 or 1995.  :snip:

 

That was 25 years ago :0.   Views have changed dramatically.   For example, watch "Major League" again.  Even in Hollywood, no one was bothered.

8 hours ago, E Rocc said:

 

That was 25 years ago :0.   Views have changed dramatically.   For example, watch "Major League" again.  Even in Hollywood, no one was bothered.

 

I just don't understand how, with any and all music being free, that people seem to know less about it.  

 

In another reaction video I watched last night, half of the guys didn't know who James Brown was, and the reactioners were all black.  The one guy asked aloud before the video started if he "used to be married to Whitney".  Then, predictably, they were blown away with what appeared to be all-new visual and aural information.  

 

I work on the weekends at a place where a Spotify rap channel runs continuously for the entire day and night.  It's all of this mumble and post-mumble stuff.  It's all completely selfish crap.  When I leave the place and put jazz or classical on in the car, it almost hurts my brain because there are these things called notes and scales and modes and chords.  Oh, and these things called good musicians.  

 

 

 

I don't like reaction videos at all. Strangers were always trying to get my reaction to whatever when I worked in public. 

15 minutes ago, Lazarus said:

 

I just don't understand how, with any and all music being free, that people seem to know less about it.  

 

In another reaction video I watched last night, half of the guys didn't know who James Brown was, and the reactioners were all black.  The one guy asked aloud before the video started if he "used to be married to Whitney".  Then, predictably, they were blown away with what appeared to be all-new visual and aural information.  

 

I work on the weekends at a place where a Spotify rap channel runs continuously for the entire day and night.  It's all of this mumble and post-mumble stuff.  It's all completely selfish crap.  When I leave the place and put jazz or classical on in the car, it almost hurts my brain because there are these things called notes and scales and modes and chords.  Oh, and these things called good musicians.  

 

 

 

 

I like a lot of rap and love some, but I cannot stand "mumble". 

 

Future in particular sounds like he has marbles in his mouth and a brain injury.

12 minutes ago, E Rocc said:

 

I like a lot of rap and love some, but I cannot stand "mumble". 

 

Mumble Rap - It's What Plants Crave

unfortunately 99.999% of what's commercially successful today is pure garbage. But happily there are still people out there with exceptional talent, like this young woman, but at the same time relegated to niche genres in which they probably won't be heard on a widespread basis--

 

 

i'm so glad crisis of conformity got back together that one last time.  😂

 

 

 

I’ve spent the last two weeks listening to nothing but Bog-Shed, one of my absolute favorite 80s indie bands. None of their stuff ever got reissued on any format and I had to make do this last 30+ years with the original mid 80s vinyl, the odd YouTube upload and the memories of the one time I got to see them live. Then at the start of December the whole back-catalog was released on iTunes and CD. Bliss. 

 

Thinking about that James Brown dance marathon I attended in Kansas City back in 1996 or 1997. 

 

Iggy Pop just released a new record yesterday.  No great or above-average new songs.  This is probably his last album, so it's a shame that he couldn't do anything interesting. 

 

Let's look back to happier times...this video is pretty unbelievable, but it's also back when the world made sense:

 

On 1/8/2023 at 12:58 AM, Lazarus said:

Iggy Pop just released a new record yesterday.  No great or above-average new songs.  This is probably his last album, so it's a shame that he couldn't do anything interesting. 

 

Let's look back to happier times...this video is pretty unbelievable, but it's also back when the world made sense:

 

 

Doesn't look work safe, but is he trying to be Mickey Avalon?

^ a couple good rawkers on there, which is pretty impressive considering iggy is like 75yrs old.

 

***
 

this is a 180 from the iggster — yerrrp —

 

 

Listen to Mr. Van Driessen lead these English kids through a rollicking Rocket to Russia go-round.

 

https://fb.watch/i7dPFyDCJ9/

 

Yes, SheenaR is a Punk Rocker.  These kids add a cockney R to everything. 

 

A couple of the kids are totally nuts. 

 

 

 

Edited January 18, 20232 yr by Lazarus

sticking close to home to do a little housework around your place this weekend?

 

put this classic on.  :)

 

 

 

If you think Taylor Swift is rough on her exes, give Leah Kate a listen.   

 

 

😂

 

 

adam ant gets all the cred for the brief, trendy and galloping early 1980s new romantic movement, but these bands get none:

 

 

 

 

 

On 1/18/2023 at 12:12 AM, Lazarus said:

Listen to Mr. Van Driessen lead these English kids through a rollicking Rocket to Russia go-round.

 

https://fb.watch/i7dPFyDCJ9/

 

Yes, SheenaR is a Punk Rocker.  These kids add a cockney R to everything. 

 

A couple of the kids are totally nuts. 

 

 

 

 

Sometimes when people say "Chiner" they think you’re making fun of Chinese people but oh... no. It's making fun of the British and how the BBC World News people say it.

5 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

 

Sometimes when people say "Chiner" they think you’re making fun of Chinese people but oh... no. It's making fun of the British and how the BBC World News people say it.

 

not just the brits, they do that r-thing out here in the nyc in the tristate too.

 

and of course famously kennedy in boston and around up there.

 

brit hangovers i guess. 

I like Beethoven.

New single in advance of a new album by the best band on the planet over the last 10 years. 

 

19 hours ago, mrnyc said:

adam ant gets all the cred for the brief, trendy and galloping early 1980s new romantic movement, but these bands get none:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I remember HF (one song) but not RC.

 

Adam Ant's commercial success was largely MTV driven IIRC.

1 hour ago, E Rocc said:

 

I remember HF (one song) but not RC.

 

Adam Ant's commercial success was largely MTV driven IIRC.

 

 

in the early 80s many bands were tied to the new romantic fad from england:

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Romantic

Boy, that Haysi Fantayzee answers the question "What if Oingo Boingo REALLY sucked?"

Edited January 26, 20232 yr by Ineffable_Matt

swedish dream pop — do you love it?

 

hint … you do:

 

 

 

 

 

On 1/26/2023 at 7:03 AM, mrnyc said:

 

 

in the early 80s many bands were tied to the new romantic fad from england:

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Romantic

 

Yes, and there was a disconnect between bands popular in the UK and America.   There still is.  Personally, I've preferred theirs since the 90s.

 

The ones who broke here broke on MTV, and through stations (like WMMS) that paid attention to what they were playing.

If one is into dream pop, Miki's back:
 

 

2 hours ago, E Rocc said:

 

Yes, and there was a disconnect between bands popular in the UK and America.   There still is.  Personally, I've preferred theirs since the 90s.

 

The ones who broke here broke on MTV, and through stations (like WMMS) that paid attention to what they were playing.

 

actually the college alternative rock radio era broke a lot of more important bands than mtv did in the 1980s like rem, etc etc etc and even when it ended it in the early 1990s it influenced the grunge era, whereas mtv didnt influence anything lasting it just fell away.

24 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

 

actually the college alternative rock radio era broke a lot of more important bands than mtv did in the 1980s like rem, etc etc etc and even when it ended it in the early 1990s it influenced the grunge era, whereas mtv didnt influence anything lasting it just fell away.

 

In hindsight I'm fairly certain that the NYC station 92 WKTU was actually owned by the Human League :-) Well at least for a couple of years maybe.

 

And speaking of dream pop...

 

1960s–1970s: Origins

Author Nathan Wiseman-Trowse writes that the "approach to the sheer physicality of sound" integral to dream pop was "arguably pioneered in popular music by figures such as Phil Spector and [Beach Boys founder] Brian Wilson."[14] The music of the Velvet Underground in the 1960s and 1970s, which experimented with repetition, tone and texture over conventional song structure, was also an important touchstone in the genre's development.

 

 

38 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

 

actually the college alternative rock radio era broke a lot of more important bands than mtv did in the 1980s like rem, etc etc etc and even when it ended it in the early 1990s it influenced the grunge era, whereas mtv didnt influence anything lasting it just fell away.

 

Grunge was largely a reaction to the over the top glam of late 80s metal.    There were several subgenres contending to replace the hair bands.   One could be called "trippy metal" and included bands like Enuff Z'Nuff, Mr. Big, and Blind Melon, who was considered "grunge" but wasn't really.  One of the most promising bands in that genre was Mother Love Bone.   When Andrew Wood, their incredibly talented singer died, two members of the band became part of Pearl Jam.

 

The album "Temple of the Dog" was a tribute to Andrew, a blend of grunge and trippy metal, and may have been the best album of the 90s.   

 

(Well along with the Judgement Night soundtrack its among *my* favorites in any case).

Edited January 28, 20232 yr by E Rocc

3 hours ago, E Rocc said:

 

Grunge was largely a reaction to the over the top glam of late 80s metal.    There were several subgenres contending to replace the hair bands.   One could be called "trippy metal" and included bands like Enuff Z'Nuff, Mr. Big, and Blind Melon, who was considered "grunge" but wasn't really.  One of the most promising bands in that genre was Mother Love Bone.   When Andrew Wood, their incredibly talented singer died, two members of the band became part of Pearl Jam.

 

The album "Temple of the Dog" was a tribute to Andrew, a blend of grunge and trippy metal, and may have been the best album of the 90s.   

 

(Well along with the Judgement Night soundtrack its among *my* favorites in any case).

 

 

actually grunge was a reaction to rap music -- it was propped up so mtv did not have to play it (much). 

 

mtv had done a stellar job of keeping the melanin at a mimum throughout the 80s, but they could not avoid that rock was dead and hiphop ruling the world by the 1990s.

 

but then mtv finally died off right away anyway, and grunge too, so it didn't matter.

19 hours ago, mrnyc said:

 

 

actually grunge was a reaction to rap music -- it was propped up so mtv did not have to play it (much). 

 

mtv had done a stellar job of keeping the melanin at a mimum throughout the 80s, but they could not avoid that rock was dead and hiphop ruling the world by the 1990s.

 

but then mtv finally died off right away anyway, and grunge too, so it didn't matter.

 

MTV didn't really die off until they fully embraced "reality TV", which to a degree they invented.

 

The melanin based argument is countered by their full on support for "Living Colour".   Not to mention the ubiquity of Michael Jackson, at a time he still had  a ample supply of said pigment.    It was a bit of a push to get his videos on at first, as MTV was meant to be a rock station.   As opposed to BET, which had started a year and a half earlier.

 

 Still, that was even before hair metal, let alone grunge.

11 hours ago, E Rocc said:

 

MTV didn't really die off until they fully embraced "reality TV", which to a degree they invented.

 

The melanin based argument is countered by their full on support for "Living Colour".   Not to mention the ubiquity of Michael Jackson, at a time he still had  a ample supply of said pigment.    It was a bit of a push to get his videos on at first, as MTV was meant to be a rock station.   As opposed to BET, which had started a year and a half earlier.

 

 Still, that was even before hair metal, let alone grunge.

 

yes mtv did go to reality tv after they pivoted away from music. that gave them a brief, last leg, but it wasnt mtv anymore.

 

there is no counter to the melanin arguement. not even yo mtv raps. it was mtv music television. and it did not reflect the popular music of its day. straight up racism was involved. its sad the mtv hair metal era and later the grunge fad were propped up to keep it that way, even as a last gasp at the end. 

This past weekend on NPR they ran a report on some sort of independent militia in Russia that is fighting independently of the Russian Army in Ukraine.  The militia's theme music?  The report ran the audio from their recruiting video, and this played:

 

The NPR commentator called this "heavy metal".  Because NPR is staffed by a who's-who of complete idiots. 

 

On 1/29/2023 at 10:23 PM, mrnyc said:

 

yes mtv did go to reality tv after they pivoted away from music. that gave them a brief, last leg, but it wasnt mtv anymore.

 

there is no counter to the melanin arguement. not even yo mtv raps. it was mtv music television. and it did not reflect the popular music of its day. straight up racism was involved. 

 

Right, no country music was played on MTV because MTV was racist.  

 

 

1 hour ago, Lazarus said:

 

Right, no country music was played on MTV because MTV was racist.  

 

 

 

country had their own video channel. did they play artists of color there? who knows? maybe charlie pride, huh? so yeah, just like mtv if not worse.

 

its funny that mtv never even dipped into country or other genres outside of pop afaik. i mean just like hiphop, country got big in the 1980s too and had popular i guess borderline pop songs. liquid tv was as out there as mtv got.

david byrne of the talking heads band has been sharing monthly playlists for awhile, check them out:

 

https://www.brooklynvegan.com/listen-to-david-byrnes-music-for-valentines-playlist/

 

this month is music for valentines —

 

David writes:

This playlist consists mostly of recent songs I’ve added to my playlists. Some of these artists and songs were mentioned to me by friends, newspapers, and algorithms. They are not all love songs, but many of them are very popular!

 

Who was Saint Valentine? Well, he was a martyr in 3rd century Rome. He is now the patron saint of asthma sufferers and beekeepers… and lovers!

 

He was an avid christian proselytizer, and was arrested by roman authorities on more than one occasion. One judge asked him to perform a miracle and restore his daughter's sight- which he did, and in return the judge and his entire family converted and smashed all of their lovely statues- per Valentine's suggestion.

 

Later, Valentine was arrested again - this time he wasn’t so lucky. His sentence was to be beaten by clubs and then beheaded. Before his execution, he wrote to the formerly blind daughter a note signed “from your Valentine”.

DAVID BYRNE PRESENTS: MUSIC FOR VALENTINES
Billie Eilish - "TV"
Rosalía - "DESPECHÁ"
Stromae & Camila Cabello - "Mon amour"
100 gecs - "mememe"
Sylvan Esso - "Didn't Care"
NNAMDÏ - "Dedication"
The 1975 - "Part of the Band"
Arcade Fire - "Unconditional I (Lookout Kid)"
BoyWithUke - "Toxic"
Blessing Offor - "My Tribe"
Katie Pruitt - "Something About What Happens When We Talk"
Tommy McLain - "I Ran Down Every Dream" (feat. Elvis Costello)
Our Native Daughters - "Quasheba, Quasheba" (feat. Rhiannon Giddens, Leyla McCalla & Allison Russell)
Andrew Bird - "I felt a Funeral, in my Brain" (feat. Phoebe Bridgers)
Archie Roach - "Took the Children Away"
Karen O - "I Shall Rise (Original Game Soundtrack)"
Weyes Blood - "It's Not Just Me, It's Everybody"
Benjamin Clementine - "Atonement"
Jessie Reyez - "MUTUAL FRIEND"
100 gecs - "Torture Me" (feat. Skrillex)
Sly Johnson - "Thank You Falettinme Be Mice Elf Again"
NNAMDÏ - "Touchdown"
Anna B Savage - "The Ghost"
KALUSH & Kalush Orchestra - "Stefania"
FKA twigs - "Tears In The Club" (feat. The Weeknd)
The Arcs - "Keep On Dreamin'"
PJ Harvey & Tim Phillips - "Run On"
Cyn - "Losing Sleep"
Benjamin Clementine - "Delighted"
Dry Cleaning - "Kwenchy Kups"
Ibrahim Maalouf & De La Soul - "Quiet Culture" (feat. Pos of De La Soul)
Algiers - "Irreversible Damage" (feat. Zack de la Rocha)
Benjamin Clementine - "Copening"
Tank and the Bangas - "Heavy"
Andrew Bird - "Sisyphus"
Selena Gomez - "My Mind & Me"
Alice Longyu Gao - "MONK"
24kGoldn - "Mood" (feat. iann dior)
Alex Lilly - "Pure Drivel"
Midland - "Final Credits (Radio Edit)
Andrew Bird - "Left Handed Kisses" (feat. Fiona Apple)
Steve Lacy - "Bad Habit"
Macaroni Empitsu - "Nanndemonaiyo,"
SZA - "Nobody Gets Me"
100 gecs - "ringtone (Remix)" [feat. Charli XCX, Rico Nasty, Kero Kero Bonito]
NNAMDÏ - "I Don't Wanna Be Famous"
FINNEAS - "Mona Lisa, Mona Lisa"
 

2 hours ago, Lazarus said:

 

Right, no country music was played on MTV because MTV was racist.  

 

 

 

I didn’t even think of that but it’s exactly true.

 

Cable TV was the very beginning of the trend of TV towards focusing on specific audiences, as radio had been doing for decades.  It was a rock station, not an “all forms of music” station.

 

Calling it racist is like calling WMMS or WJMO racist at the time.