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My favorite group of all time is The Smashing Pumpkins.  I recently dusted off Siamese Dream and had almost forgotten how beautiful and powerful that album is.  I get the chills, tingles and tear up everytime I listen to it.

 

As a teenager through the mid-90s, I was fortunate enough to be exposed to the alternative/grunge scene; Nirvana, SP, and Pearl Jam in the early '90s, then Social D, Bush, and Filter in the mid-90s. Looking back, most of the genre is your typical teen-angst "poor me, I don't fit in" music, but for some reason the Pumpkins really ran deep emotionally for me.  At the time of Siamese Dream, Billy Corgan was a really sad guy, and he just opens himself up to the listener, showing feelings of resentment (Cherub Rock), anger (Silverfuck), suicidal thoughts (Today) and most of all, his sadness (Disarm, Soma, Mayonaise).

 

While I was far from suicidal, I was an insecure teen who felt he didn't fit in, and his music got me through some incredibly tough times. Billy's lyrics definitely struck a chord with me, and as cliched as it sounds, I felt like he was singing to me, like he understood exactly how I felt.

 

In my opinion, that album typifies '90s rock, and is definitely one of the best rock albums made.  He runs you over with power chords and distortion, but can also serenade you with beautiful melodies and harmonies.  Siamese Dream will never get old to me.

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As far as Radiohead goes (yes, they're my favorite band) i think it depends on how you define the decades...if you say that 2000 is this decade, then as far as i'm concerned they've put out the best music in this decade.  I think that Kid A is the tipping point and it was released in 2000.

 

90's = Pablo Honey, The Bends, OK Computer

00's = Kid A, Amnesiac, Hail to the Thief, In Rainbows

 

Yeah, i'm going to give it to the 00's...while OK Computer is a fantastic album...and the Bends is good too...i think that the 4 albums from the 00's are better...

Today I heard The Breeders "Last Splash" playing in the background of a casino radio ad, specifically Belterra Casino.  It was a muzak instrumental remake, but it was undeniably that song.  Same tempo, same key, same simple guitar effects.

 

In response to the comment about the 90's being "depressed", what's funny about that was there was this idea pushed by MTV and radio that if you weren't depressed something was wrong with you.  I remember at the time early 80's Van Halen party music sounded completely ridiculous since everyone was supposedly so depressed.  I definitely didn't succumb to that thought and so my musical interests were always towards more celebratory and irreverent music.

 

I did start listening to WAIF 88.3 at a tender age, which was the low wattage community station with all kinds of shows. They had reggae hour, metal hour, punk hour, Dr. Demento, the ladies with the cooking show, etc.  I didn't have the benefit of a friend with a cool older brother at that critical 12-14 age, but I was nevertheless drawn toward the stuff WAIF played like Dead Kennedys and Black Flag.  I remember this really critical visit to the record store when I was about 12 when I had the Dead Kennedys CD with the shriners on the front in my paws and I put it down and didn't buy it.  Actually, I still don't own it.  I can't remember what I bought instead, but I'm convinced I narrowly dodged a descent into punk rockerdom on that fateful day. 

 

I used to tape the WAIF punk rock show, this was a favorite of mine (the intro sucks, picks up at 1:30):

Dead Kennedys-Riot

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, apparently it's the 20th anniversary of Paul's Boutique.  Somehow to date this album has still only sold 2 million copies.

 

The album artwork is still awesome:

Pauls_Boutique_foldout.jpg

 

 

I remember my brother and I knew every single line and would ad lib the songs out in public.  The record is still heard rather infrequently in public. 

 

Beastie Boys - Shake Your Rump

 

 

I disagree with that one (though like some of the new work). It's interesting that Radiohead fans always divide along these lines. I meet very few people who like both eras equally. Hell, I actually might like Pablo Honey the most. :wink:

 

yeah, i know Radiohead fans do always disagree on this stuff...and because i like electronic music a lot i enjoy the later stuff a little more...but, still...i think that it's hard to argue that the band itself could be defined by The Bends when they've been progressively growing and changing through Kid A and Amnesiac to In Rainbows.  I seem to remember reading that a lot of fans of The Bends pretty much hated OK Computer because of how much it had changed.

 

You suggest that the trough of music was the early 00's...i'd have to disagree...not because nu metal doesn't suck (it does) but because this emo crap that has come out is just so much worse.  It takes the worst parts of great genres and blends them together to make a s***storm of suck.  I love Depeche Mode and Joy Division and New Order and that stuff is depressing as hell...but it doesn't suck like emo does.

I used to be an "old" radiohead guy but I think now I am leaning towards the newer stuff. I loved In Rainbows and I started listening to some concerts. Hearing them play the music live really changed my opinion of it. Although "The Bends" is a classic.

 

My brother and I were talking about how a lot of people think U2 is overrated, but they have never put out a bad album. Even most of Pop is good. They have that whole fun U2 (zooropa, zoo TV tour) /serious U2 thing going though. I think that may turn some fans off.

Also, apparently it's the 20th anniversary of Paul's Boutique. Somehow to date this album has still only sold 2 million copies.

 

That's it?  I never understood why that album never caught on.  I just heard 'Hey Ladies'  on satellite radio the other day...still a great song!

I used to be an "old" radiohead guy but I think now I am leaning towards the newer stuff. I loved In Rainbows and I started listening to some concerts. Hearing them play the music live really changed my opinion of it. Although "The Bends" is a classic.

 

My brother and I were talking about how a lot of people think U2 is overrated, but they have never put out a bad album. Even most of Pop is good. They have that whole fun U2 (zooropa, zoo TV tour) /serious U2 thing going though. I think that may turn some fans off.

 

Radiohead's concerts are an absolute must see...my wife and i have two bands that we will see whenever they tour...Radiohead (my favorite) and Depeche Mode (her favorite)...of course, with Dave Gahan having cancer and Radiohead not releasing any more albums...we might not see them again.

Also, apparently it's the 20th anniversary of Paul's Boutique. Somehow to date this album has still only sold 2 million copies.

 

That's it? I never understood why that album never caught on. I just heard 'Hey Ladies' on satellite radio the other day...still a great song!

 

Paul's Boutique is hands down my favorite Beastie Boys album, I just think given the huge departure it was from License To Ill and the general lack of support it had from Capital Records killed it commercially.

>License To Ill and the general lack of support it had from Capital Records killed it commercially

 

Yeah supposedly they pulled all support from the album soon after the release.  In the mid-80's, rap that was on the radio or MTV was all fun novelty stuff like The Fat Boys and Run DMC.  Then around 88-89 it started drifting toward gangster rap. Although Paul's Boutique wasn't frat rap, it wasn't gangster either, so they didn't bother marketing it.  Also, even before Vanilla Ice, they were derided for being white. I think Public Enemy is a big reason why that happened, since they were the first successful political rap act, and there was a definitely a shift from rap as being an 80's novelty fad to a specifically black genre of music. 

 

It must be hard for people to imagine a world before rap existed, but I remember it, and also remember when rap was viewed as just another fad like new wave or disco. 

Dropped-D tuning will do that.  It's a neat little "toy" or "trick" for a guitarist, but it creates it's own mindset, and when everyone is doing it..... 

 

A few bands were able use that tuning extensively but not sound like "dropped D metal band" as Spoon put it so eloquently.  Hum happens to be one, btw.

 

edit- on looking at the video a second time, Paw isn't in dropped D.  So much for 4:00 AM pontification.

My uncle's band has the guitars and bass tuned to Eb, all the time. Luckily I took classical piano lessons long enough to learn all the "black note" scales, so I can play all the stuff on a standard tuned piano. But a few weeks ago I showed up late while they were playing at a party and they had the keyboard ready for me.  It took me until the middle of the second song to realize they had downtuned the keyboard to Eb.  Luckily everyone was at least 5 beers into the evening by that point so they didn't realize I sounded like crap. 

"Unsung" came first.

>License To Ill and the general lack of support it had from Capital Records killed it commercially

 

Yeah supposedly they pulled all support from the album soon after the release.  In the mid-80's, rap that was on the radio or MTV was all fun novelty stuff like The Fat Boys and Run DMC.  Then around 88-89 it started drifting toward gangster rap. Although Paul's Boutique wasn't frat rap, it wasn't gangster either, so they didn't bother marketing it.  Also, even before Vanilla Ice, they were derided for being white. I think Public Enemy is a big reason why that happened, since they were the first successful political rap act, and there was a definitely a shift from rap as being an 80's novelty fad to a specifically black genre of music. 

 

It must be hard for people to imagine a world before rap existed, but I remember it, and also remember when rap was viewed as just another fad like new wave or disco. 

 

Yep.  I remember radio giving Jody Watley hell for having Raquiem on her "friends" single.  It was the first song to have a rap included in the final album and radio cut.

 

When I got into music, gangsta rap was on its way out and developed into "thug rap".  I know I tried to make a difference, however, it's hard to change the view of an artists or their point of view at that moment when they feel their "art" is a creative outlet.

I'm into the Royal Bangs at the moment. This song is good. My favorite is called 'Waking up Wierd'

 

The Deadmau5

^Deadmau5 is so good.  Seems like Toronto produced some good DJ's.  If you like Deadmau5, you should listen to Adam K, and Glenn Morrison.  Glenn Morrison is on Deadmau5's label so he might be either a side project/alias but still has some good tracks.  Adam K has the same kind of style; smooth, driving tracks that seem to never end.

 

^ I will thanks, always looking for new music.

>arcade fire and the boss in ottawa in 2007 o

 

Win Butler has written at least 10 songs that leave anything Bruce has done in the dust. 

 

haha yeah. just like jack white has at least ten songs that blow away anything chuck berry has done.

 

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in advance of seeing where the wild things are i was looking over spike jonze videos. great fun!

 

chris walken the dancin fool

 

fun with levis

 

i think this was the first video of his i ever saw?

WAX - California (A Spike Jonze Music Video)

 

so hard to pick a favorite, but if i had to

 

 

 

^Hey it's cool.  I am loving Shakira's "She Wolf."  Great production values and overall great song.

 

But I have been absolutely addicted to this song for the past week.

Jane's Addiction - "Just Because"

Jane's Addiction - Just Because

I think that's the last "new" CD I ever bought.  That was from '03 and then I bought The Ramones "Rocket to Russia" in early '04 because I needed "I Don't Care" for a video soundtrack, and that's the last time I bought a CD in a record store:

 

Ramones - I Don't Care

 

For any youngsters reading this that don't have the original Jane's Addiction albums, get them.  Nothing's Shocking and Ritual de lo Habitual are both important records to know about. 

 

Somehow these guys wrote all the material on Nothing's Shocking when they were 19-20 years old and the second album when they were 22-23. 

 

 

 

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Crossroads by Bone Thugs just shuffled up on my ipod. I had no idea it was even on there....

I had someone today telling me that Kraftwerk, especially "Trans Europe Express", were played on many black radio stations in the late 70's and early 80's.  Can anyone confirm this?

 

 

kraftwerk - trans europe express

not sure if this fits into the current discussion, but it DOES answer the question posed in the thread.

 

the very first dire straits album, self titled, deserves re-listen after re-listen.  mark knopfler's guitar, vocals, and songwriting are absolute beauty.  it's as if he and the guitar are one.

 

i bought it near the end of summer at a record exchange in lakewood (CLV) and have been listening to on a near daily basis since.

 

in regards to new music, i've been finding more value in going backwards in time....

bill withers first two albums provide tasty musical hooks and a songwriting theme that i'm guessing is indicative of being a black man in the early 70's.

I had someone today telling me that Kraftwerk, especially "Trans Europe Express", were played on many black radio stations in the late 70's and early 80's.  Can anyone confirm this?

 

 

kraftwerk - trans europe express

 

Hell ya, bro! Kraftwerk was the first in the electronic scene.

Something a lot of people don't realize is that those Kraftwerk recordings don't have any really deep bass on them so you can crank any stereo.  Like if you can only turn your stereo up to 3.5 before windows shatter, with Kraftwerk on you can turn it up to 5 or even 6.  I believe a Kraftwerk to something else CD switch was responsible for my stereo's speakers blowing out at a party back in '01. 

 

Jmecklenborg, I believe you meant to say you can turn Kraftwerk all the way to 11!

 

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Nigel Tufnel: The numbers all go to eleven. Look, right across the board, eleven, eleven, eleven and...

Marty DiBergi: Oh, I see. And most amps go up to ten?

Nigel Tufnel: Exactly.

Marty DiBergi: Does that mean it's louder? Is it any louder?

Nigel Tufnel: Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your guitar. Where can you go from there? Where?

Marty DiBergi: I don't know.

Nigel Tufnel: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?

Marty DiBergi: Put it up to eleven.

Nigel Tufnel: Eleven. Exactly. One louder.

Marty DiBergi: Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder?

Nigel Tufnel: [pause] These go to eleven.

 

 

(nuf said)

I had someone today telling me that Kraftwerk, especially "Trans Europe Express", were played on many black radio stations in the late 70's and early 80's.  Can anyone confirm this?

 

 

kraftwerk - trans europe express

 

Yes honey.  there are a lot of white artist that got there start or have/had an audience that was majority black.  Madonna, Hall and Oates, Lisa Stansfield to name a few.

 

This song was the shiznit.  This song was the first major line-dance song.

 

You would go to a club and this song would bring folks to the dance floor!

Ever since I heard this on the Vizio commercial, I cant get it out of my head and has really grown on me.   

Sorta reminds me of a cross of some stuff from the late 80''s/90's

 

 

Another goody from them that you may have heard:

 

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

I had someone today telling me that Kraftwerk, especially "Trans Europe Express", were played on many black radio stations in the late 70's and early 80's. Can anyone confirm this?

 

 

kraftwerk - trans europe express

 

Yes honey. there are a lot of white artist that got there start or have/had an audience that was majority black. Madonna, Hall and Oates, Lisa Stansfield to name a few.

 

This song was the shiznit. This song was the first major line-dance song.

 

You would go to a club and this song would bring folks to the dance floor!

 

Hall and Oates? Are you serious??? I believe you but I am shocked...

I had someone today telling me that Kraftwerk, especially "Trans Europe Express", were played on many black radio stations in the late 70's and early 80's.  Can anyone confirm this?

 

 

kraftwerk - trans europe express

 

 

Yes honey.  there are a lot of white artist that got there start or have/had an audience that was majority black.  Madonna, Hall and Oates, Lisa Stansfield to name a few.

 

This song was the shiznit.  This song was the first major line-dance song.

 

You would go to a club and this song would bring folks to the dance floor!

 

Hall and Oates? Are you serious??? I believe you but I am shocked...

 

It was the allure of the moustache. No one can resist! Look at it...marvel at it's magnificence!

 

ec38a550bbcf9a58

 

 

I had someone today telling me that Kraftwerk, especially "Trans Europe Express", were played on many black radio stations in the late 70's and early 80's.  Can anyone confirm this?

 

 

kraftwerk - trans europe express

 

 

Yes honey.  there are a lot of white artist that got there start or have/had an audience that was majority black.  Madonna, Hall and Oates, Lisa Stansfield to name a few.

 

This song was the shiznit.  This song was the first major line-dance song.

 

You would go to a club and this song would bring folks to the dance floor!

 

Hall and Oates? Are you serious??? I believe you but I am shocked...

 

It was the allure of the moustache. No one can resist! Look at it...marvel at it's magnificence!

 

ec38a550bbcf9a58

 

 

 

What is wrong with you parents??  And you wonder why you're kids think you're "not cool".

I had someone today telling me that Kraftwerk, especially "Trans Europe Express", were played on many black radio stations in the late 70's and early 80's.  Can anyone confirm this?

 

 

kraftwerk - trans europe express

 

 

Yes honey.  there are a lot of white artist that got there start or have/had an audience that was majority black.  Madonna, Hall and Oates, Lisa Stansfield to name a few.

 

This song was the shiznit.  This song was the first major line-dance song.

 

You would go to a club and this song would bring folks to the dance floor!

 

Hall and Oates? Are you serious??? I believe you but I am shocked...

 

It was the allure of the moustache. No one can resist! Look at it...marvel at it's magnificence!

 

ec38a550bbcf9a58

 

 

 

What is wrong with you parent??  And you wonder why you're parents think you're "not cool".

 

???

 

Can I get an MTS to English translation, please? :-P

This is what I have playing right now. It's the guy who did "Young forever" with Jay-Z.

 

I dialed up Gnarls Barkley after hearing "Crazy" on the JCU radio station on the way into work this morning. I always loved the video for that with the moving ink blots. As soon as I hear the song the video starts running in my head.

 

 

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Wow nobody's posted in this essential thread in 2 weeks!

 

I'm gonna throw some Kina up in here:

 

i *heart* my el sonidito vid  :banger:

 

are you ready to be hyp-no-ti-zed?

 

uno dos trace quatro...lets go!

 

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

 

 

the gangsta ruidito dance remix is the best of the bunch:

 

Completely addicted to Sublime.  Quickly becoming my favorite band... And it takes a lot for that to occur.

Pawn Shop

Such a great tune.

Doin' Time - Uptown Dub:

And when Gwen Stefani was a rockin tomboy.

Saw Red::

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"i *heart* my el sonidito vid 

 

are you ready to be hyp-no-ti-zed?

 

uno dos trace quatro...lets go!"

 

Wow, that was pretty terrible!

 

"I actually like their cover of "Cornflake Girl" more than the original by Tori Amos:"

 

Oh come on, no one can touch Tori!

 

BLAKROK, the project with the Black Keys and a bunch of famous rappers. The Keys play the backing tracks. Even ODB is on the opening track! Dirt McGrit!

 

The best track is probably "Dollaz & Sense" featuring RZA.

"i *heart* my el sonidito vid 

 

are you ready to be hyp-no-ti-zed?

 

uno dos trace tres quatro cuatro...lets go!"

 

Wow, that was pretty terrible!

 

"I actually like their cover of "Cornflake Girl" more than the original by Tori Amos:"

 

Oh come on, no one can touch Tori!

 

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