November 8, 200618 yr ^I agree, Issue 3 was a real turd. Though I enjoy gambling, I voted against it because it seemed like a sweetheart deal, would allow only slots, not table games, and excluded Cincinnati (and any other city) from building standalone casinos. Good riddance.
November 8, 200618 yr ^I agree, Issue 3 was a real turd. Though I enjoy gambling, I voted against it because it seemed like a sweetheart deal, would allow only slots, not table games, and excluded Cincinnati (and any other city) from building standalone casinos. Good riddance. Thanks Ohio! IIRC, Cinci chose not to be include. Correct??
November 8, 200618 yr Quote from: kendall on Today at 06:44:24 AM ^I agree, Issue 3 was a real turd. Though I enjoy gambling, I voted against it because it seemed like a sweetheart deal, would allow only slots, not table games, and excluded Cincinnati (and any other city) from building standalone casinos. Good riddance. Thanks Ohio! IIRC, Cinci chose not to be include. Correct?? Not actually, there are the relevant articles posted further up on this topic. I believe it was just that some interests in the Cleveland area through together a last minute proposal without including the rest of the state.
November 8, 200618 yr ^I agree, Issue 3 was a real turd. Though I enjoy gambling, I voted against it because it seemed like a sweetheart deal, would allow only slots, not table games, and excluded Cincinnati (and any other city) from building standalone casinos. Good riddance. Thanks Ohio! IIRC, Cinci chose not to be include. Correct?? I don't think so. The owners of Argosy Casino bribed the Learn and Earn committee to exclude Cincinnati. Argosy makes the most money of any riverboat in the country, so it's cheaper for them to bribe the committe with millions of dollars than it would be to lose customers to a casino in Cincy.
November 8, 200618 yr ^Bingo. Now, had it been full-fledged statewide casinos for ALL regions, then sure, I would've seen the point. But when it said "two for Cuyahoga" or whatever and here I am in Columbus thinking "wtf?" then you KNOW others are going to be thinking the same thing. And then to disguise it for the "Learn and Earn" thing was foolish. Just be real with it. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 8, 200618 yr Sad to say the best hope is to somehow allow individual localities (county or city level) to decide this issue for themselves. Unfortunately in this anti-federalist world we're living in, it doesn't seem likely if right now there are laws on the books prohibiting casino gambling in the entire state, which I assume to be the case. You've got a handful of politicians in Cleveland (no doubt in my mind spurred by Forest City) trying to push this thing, but it was shady to begin with, and you've got the entire rest of the state, filled with God People who think gambling is of the Debil, and social commentators throughout the state decrying the scourge that gambling is on the poor (calling it a "regressive tax", so where's the outrage over the Ohio Lottery?). It's a tough nut to crack in an environment where everyone wants to stick his nose into other people's business.
November 8, 200618 yr and you've got the entire rest of the state, filled with God People who think gambling is of the Debil, and social commentators throughout the state decrying the scourge that gambling is on the poor (calling it a "regressive tax", so where's the outrage over the Ohio Lottery?). Yes, because Cleveland has no God people. Christ. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 8, 200618 yr Hell, me too! "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 8, 200618 yr Yes, because Cleveland has no God people. Christ. You know what I mean. Just like people paint the midwest as "Jesus land". I was doing it for illustrative purposes. If there's a county in the state most likely to pass a gambling issue, I think it would be Cuyahoga. But they have to compete with the more red-state areas which are much more likely to be influenced by church leaders who (as we've seen in these articles) are among the more vocal opponents of gambling, period. They have to overcome those people AND the Naysayers in their own county, who are numerous as well. If we for the sake of argument say that by now, 51% of Cuyahoga county voters are in favor of a Flats casino, then they've got a huge uphill battle because elsewhere in the state there have proven to be at least 60-65% of voters who thing gambling is so bad that it should be illegal in the state, regardless if what an individual county thinks. And these are the results with millions being poured into a half-assed, sweetheart deal that included a warm-and-fuzzy title like Learn and Earn. It's a tough battle, is all I'm saying.
November 8, 200618 yr and you've got the entire rest of the state, filled with God People who think gambling is of the Debil, and social commentators throughout the state decrying the scourge that gambling is on the poor (calling it a "regressive tax", so where's the outrage over the Ohio Lottery?). Yes, because Cleveland has no God people. Christ. Yes they do! http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2006/10/06/op-ed-tide-is-turning-against-slots-in-ohio/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cleveland.com%2Fnews%2Fplaindealer%2Fsam_fulwood%2Findex.ssf%3F%2Fbase%2Fopinion%2F1160037438226810.xml%26coll%3D2&frame=true This is interesting ... http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2006/10/06/op-ed-the-case-against-gambling-in-ohio/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cleveland.com%2Fnews%2Fplaindealer%2Fthomas_suddes%2Findex.ssf%3F%2Fbase%2Fopinion%2F1159605323268330.xml%26coll%3D2&frame=true Also 70% + of Cuyahoga County voted for Strickland ... guess what, he doesn't want them either. "Voinovich & Strickland Speak Out Against Gambling" ... Damn christians. ;)
November 8, 200618 yr EARTH TO CLEVELAND: Issue 3 passed in Hamilton County even though the people of Hamilton County didn't really benefit. State Issue 3 Learn and Earn (Slots) Hamilton County (Cincinnati) YES - 137738 - 50% NO - 135590 - 49% http://dunes.cincinnati.com/election1106/race.asp?county=hamilton&raceid=33
November 8, 200618 yr EARTH TO CLEVELAND: Issue 3 passed in Hamilton County even though the people of Hamilton County didn't really benefit. State Issue 3 Learn and Earn (Slots) Hamilton County (Cincinnati) YES - 137738 - 50% NO - 135590 - 49% http://dunes.cincinnati.com/election1106/race.asp?county=hamilton&raceid=33 Dear Hamilton County: Thank You (and your kissing cousins) for your support. Smooches
November 8, 200618 yr I would suggest blaming the rest of the state for not voting for an issue that proclaims loudly and proudly, "Fuck Ohio" - it ain't tough to comprehend why folks voted against it. I mean, honestly, they wrote Cuyahoga County into the frickin' bill! Come on. Yeah, it's because we're all Bible-toting fun-haters down south. We god-bothering conservative Cincinnatians, who haven't even run a Republican for mayor in how many years now? Great analysis.
November 8, 200618 yr Well, Cincy was going to get some kick backs on this. I really couldn't care less. I think it was probably the people in the Ohio armpits (East and Western) corners where there aren't any big cities that brought this down. But in the end, I don't give a crap. Casinos are depressing.
November 8, 200618 yr EARTH TO CLEVELAND: Issue 3 passed in Hamilton County even though the people of Hamilton County didn't really benefit. State Issue 3 Learn and Earn (Slots) Hamilton County (Cincinnati) YES - 137738 - 50% NO - 135590 - 49% http://dunes.cincinnati.com/election1106/race.asp?county=hamilton&raceid=33 Dear Hamilton County: Thank You (and your kissing cousins) for your support. Smooches Sorry, we tried to give you guys in America's Poorest City some slots so you can break the bank but hey, maybe we're looking out for ya instead! "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 8, 200618 yr LOL. Again we fight. What's hilarious about this is, I didn't get the impression that anyone was even that into this issue here...Yet when it's a C vs. C battle, that changes EVERYTHING! Anyway, I don't see the point of a casino without Texas Hold 'Em. Or Wayne Newton.
November 8, 200618 yr EARTH TO CLEVELAND: Issue 3 passed in Hamilton County even though the people of Hamilton County didn't really benefit. State Issue 3 Learn and Earn (Slots) Hamilton County (Cincinnati) YES - 137738 - 50% NO - 135590 - 49% http://dunes.cincinnati.com/election1106/race.asp?county=hamilton&raceid=33 Dear Hamilton County: Thank You (and your kissing cousins) for your support. Smooches Sorry, we tried to give you guys in America's Poorest City some slots so you can break the bank but hey, maybe we're looking out for ya instead! America's only city to have a large-scale race riot in the 21st century looking out for America's Poorest City. Damn I love Ohio! ;)
November 8, 200618 yr America's only city to have a large-scale race riot in the 21st century That sounds like an Enquirer skewed fact, considering only 6 years of the 21st Century have been seen. No...wait...the Enquirer would have said millennium.
November 8, 200618 yr This proposal failed not because of "Jesus Land", but because it was a severely flawed plan with the stink of corruption all over it. I would expect another casino proopsal within the next two years, most likely straightforward and fair.
November 9, 200618 yr This proposal failed not because of "Jesus Land", but because it was a severely flawed plan with the stink of corruption all over it. Exactly!
November 9, 200618 yr We god-bothering conservative Cincinnatians, who haven't even run a Republican for mayor in how many years now? Since 1970... Cincinnati hasn't had a Republican Mayor since 1970.
November 9, 200618 yr Since 1970... Cincinnati hasn't had a Republican Mayor since 1970. 1970 - 2000 Cincinnati loses 27% population 1970 - 2000 Cincinnati loses 57% manufacturing workforce 1970 - 2000 Cincinnati poverty rate moves up to 22% ...not saying Republicans are the answer, but the Dems don't deserve much credit
November 9, 200618 yr True, but lets look at the state of OH as a whole, since republicans have been heading it. I don't think anybody deserves much credit.
November 9, 200618 yr True, but lets look at the state of OH as a whole, since republicans have been heading it. I don't think anybody deserves much credit. AMEN!!
November 9, 200618 yr ^&^^AMEN, AMEN!! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll-HA
November 9, 200618 yr 1970 - 2000 Cincinnati loses 27% population 1970 - 2000 Cincinnati loses 57% manufacturing workforce 1970 - 2000 Cincinnati poverty rate moves up to 22% ...not saying Republicans are the answer, but the Dems don't deserve much credit You are skewing the data. Lets look at Cincinnati compared with every other land locked mid tier city and you will see that Cincinnati faired better than their neighbors. Population decline in the center city had little to do with what party was running the city.
November 9, 200618 yr ^Okay, but if population decline doesn't have to do with the party in charge, neither does its success in comparison to similar cities. I'm not really trying to make a point here, I'm more so playing devils advocate with your new extremely democratic polarization. I should have looked up some Toledo data for comparison. :lol:
November 9, 200618 yr The numbers are in. The issue lost in 82 of the 88 counties. (Of course, that's the best a gambling initiative has ever done in the state-if you want to look at the bright side.) It passed in the following counties: Cuyahoga Hamilton Lake Mahoning Medina Trumbull Surprisingly, it lost 63%-37% in Franklin County. It didn't even come close in Lucas, either (57%-43%). Here are the totals: http://www.sos.state.oh.us/SOS/ElectionsVoter/results2006.aspx?Section=1856 From the 11/8/06 PD: Ohio voters unwilling to bet on slots amendment Wednesday, November 08, 2006 Tom Breckenridge Plain Dealer Reporter A big-bucks campaign to bring slot machines to Ohio was losing handily early this morning and supporters were fearing defeat. With 70 percent of precincts counted, nearly six in 10 Ohioans had voted against Issue 3. The proposed constitutional amendment would allow up to 31,500 slots at nine sites in Ohio, including Tower City and the Nautica Entertainment Complex in downtown Cleveland. The anti-slots camp declared victory just before 11 p.m. "Ohioans saw through the illusion of a $20 million campaign," said David Zanotti, co-chairman of the Vote No Casinos Committee and head of a conservative public-policy group based in Strongsville. "People know the gambling model doesn't provide benefits for anyone but the owners." Full article at http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/116297958318990.xml&coll=2
November 9, 200618 yr I would expect another casino proopsal within the next two years, most likely straightforward and fair. ...I'd imagine this is true. And a good thing - it's been quite a while since a fair proposal was submitted to the people here...
November 11, 200618 yr From the 11/10/06 PD: Middling support in Cuyahoga doomed slot-machine proposal Friday, November 10, 2006 Tom Breckenridge Plain Dealer Reporter Slot-machine supporters counted on big support Tuesday night from Greater Cleveland, the biggest beneficiary statewide under Issue 3. Instead, middling support in Cuyahoga County and the region doomed the proposal, supporters said. Issue 3's multiple flaws came under post-election scrutiny Wednesday, as gambling supporters wondered aloud what kind of casino package might better draw voters' support, maybe as soon as 2008. "The next package will not be Cleveland-centric," said Paul Tipps, a retired but still-influential lobbyist in Columbus. "It can't be. That's one lesson you've got to learn." Issue 3 went down 57 percent to 43 percent Tuesday night, according to unofficial returns. It proposed slot machines at nine sites in Ohio, including three in Cuyahoga County and one in northern Summit County. Given Northeast Ohio's disproportionate share of the slots business, Issue 3 supporters figured on 60 percent-plus support in Cuyahoga and a 57 percent nod in a 17-county region, said Neil Clark, a Columbus lobbyist and strategist for Issue 3. Instead, Cuyahoga's support came in at 55 percent, while the region actually voted down the issue, 52 percent to 48 percent, Clark said. Full article at http://www.cleveland.com/sun/nordoniahillssun/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1163094737252630.xml&coll=3
November 22, 200618 yr Wow, this would be just one more excuse for FC to not invest in its hometown. It looks like PA has the model that some of us would have supported...open bidding for the casino license. Not that it really opens the field up a whole heckuva lot, but it's still better than designating the winners before the election! Check out the type of development FC is looking into, beyond the Casino. Can anyone think of a place in Cleveland [cough] Scranton [cough] where they might do something like this??? Developer lining up to play slots Forest City seeks Pittsburgh gambling license Wednesday, November 22, 2006 Henry J. Gomez Plain Dealer Reporter Cleveland-based real estate developer Forest City Enterprises Inc., which this month saw its multimillion-dollar push to legalize slot-machine gambling in Ohio defeated at the ballot box, is hoping for better luck in the Keystone State. This week, the Pennsylvania Gaming Control Board in Harrisburg, Pa., heard presentations from Forest City and the two other finalists for Pittsburgh's lone slots casino license. Each applicant is pushing a billion-dollar plan with support from hometown sports heroes. Forest City has teamed with Las Vegas-based gaming giant Harrah's Entertainment Inc. on a $1 billion proposal that includes a $512 million casino at Station Square. Forest City also plans to build a 250-room hotel and create a mixed-use neighborhood with 1,250 condominium units. Franco Harris, a Pittsburgh Steelers great during the 1970s and a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, would head an affiliated community foundation. More at http://www.cleveland.com/plaindealer
November 26, 200618 yr Full article at http://www.columbusdispatch.com/news-story.php?story=dispatch/2006/11/26/20061126-C1-02.html Slots may survive Nov. 7 defeat Proponents refuse to give up on gambling although voters — again — rejected it Sunday, November 26, 2006 James Nash THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH Charles J. Ruma, owner of Beulah Park, says gambling supporters will try again despite rejection at the polls this month. They wagered more than $20 million and lost big. Gambling interests, however, haven’t given up on Ohio. Just days after voters decisively rejected a plan to bring as many as 31,500 slot machines to downtown Cleveland and seven horse-racing tracks, supporters of legalized gambling began plotting their next moves. They noted that even as Ohioans snubbed a gambling proposal by more than 500,000 votes Nov. 7, Pennsylvanians dropped their first quarters into slot machines a week later in that state’s first casino. Hundreds of people waited in line for the doors of the Wilkes-Barre casino to open this month; it brought in more than $39 million in its first week. Numbers like those encourage casino proponents to try again in Ohio, even though voters now have rejected proposals to expand gambling in 1990, 1996 and 2006.
December 2, 200618 yr From the 11/13/06 Elyria Chronicle-Telegram: Foltin: Casinos still have a chance Joe Medici The Chronicle-Telegram Ohio voters shot down yet another gambling proposal last week, but some in Lorain are betting a casino resort is still in the cards. Issue 3, which would have allowed slot machines at nine locations around the state, was soundly defeated despite claims from supporters that it would provide $850 million annually for college assistance programs. Detractors of the issue, including Lorain Mayor Craig Foltin, claimed the issue would have restricted gambling to a small number of cities. Foltin, who courted the Eastern Shawnee tribe in 2005 in an attempt to bring in a casino, said with Issue 3 safely in the grave, city and state officials can get back to work on trying to draw up legislation that would allow gambling throughout the state. Full article at http://www.chroniclet.com/Daily%20Pages/111306head8.html
December 2, 200618 yr From the 11/18/06 Lima News: Tribe told to try again with settlement language BY HEATHER RUTZ - Nov. 18, 2006 TOLEDO — A federal judge on Friday told an American Indian tribe to try again with new language in settlements the tribe is asking the court to approve. The Eastern Shawnee of Oklahoma and Ohio Attorney General’s Office made their arguments before Judge James Carr in U.S. District Court on proposed settlements gained by the tribe in a land claims suit it filed against the state and many local governments, including the city of Lima, in 2005. The tribe is trying to acquire land in Ohio and petition the U.S. Bureau of Indian Affairs to have that land taken into federal trust, and become a federally recognized tribe in Ohio, so it can open a resort and casino in the state. The tribe wants Carr to approve the settlements, so the agreements remain under the court’s jurisdiction, tribe attorney Mason Morisset said. Full article at http://www.limanews.com/story.php?IDnum=32315
December 20, 200618 yr Another state ready to start taxing Ohio residents - notice the total 61,000 allowable slot machines in PA. Where's George Voinovich's study showing Issue 3's 31,500 slot machines was too many and would never be supported by the Ohio population. Here we go George - let's watch another state go into business and capture some of the Ohio resident's hard earned money! THIS CAME FROM YAHOO'S HOME PAGE: Philadelphia could become the nation's largest city with a casino
January 1, 200718 yr From the 12/16/06 Lima News: Sides want more time in Indian casino land case BY GREG SOWINSKI - Dec. 16, 2006 TOLEDO — Parties in a lawsuit over an American Indian land claim have asked a judge for more time to discuss a possible settlement, according to records filed Friday. The request by the Eastern Shawnee Tribe of Oklahoma, the Ohio Attorney General’s Office, the City of Lima, Lanny Durnell and Jerry L. Knief was filed Friday in U.S. District Court in Toledo. A federal judge had asked the parties to provide an update. The parties said they need more time for further discussions in hopes of reaching a settlement, according to court records. The sides have asked for a revised status report deadline of Jan. 31. Ohio Attorney General Jim Petro, who is on his way out following the November election, has opposed a settlement saying the tribe wants a court to approve a settlement only to bolster future legal arguments with the federal government in bringing gambling to Ohio. Full article at http://www.limanews.com/story.php?IDnum=33242
January 1, 200718 yr Any chance Ohio may actually have a casino gambling plan that is fair and makes sense to everyone not just the race track owners, or other special interest group?
January 1, 200718 yr ^casino gaming will never be fair, whomever holds the licenses whether it be a racetrack, Native American Tribe or gaming business will thoroughly enjoy their revenues at the expense of Joe Ohio.
January 19, 200718 yr Betting Big Indiana casinos spending millions to expand By Bob Driehaus, Post contributor Catherine Keller of Groesbeck, a neighborhood of Cincinnati, plays slots at Argosy Casino in Lawrenceburg, Ind. Debates continues in Ohio and Kentucky regarding the addition of slots and gaming tables. Meanwhile, Argosy and Belterra, another Indiana casino, are expanding. Argosy casino isn't waiting around to see if the competition for gambling dollars heats up in Kentucky or Ohio, but is forging ahead with construction of a new $300 million casino and parking garage in Lawrenceburg, Ind. to replace its 10-year-old boat. Belterra casino has to work hard to keep its smaller piece of the gambling pie since it's farther from Cincinnati, and it is responding with construction of a hotel tower that will add 250 rooms to its casino and golf resort in Switzerland County. Those two regional casino powerhouses are upping the ante with expensive renovations to ensure continued windfall profits while their neighbors in Kentucky and Ohio continue to resist calls for slot machines or other casino venues. TAX DETAILS Indiana casinos frequented by Northern Kentucky and Greater Cincinnati residents continued to provide a tax windfall for state and local governments in 2006: - Argosy, Lawrenceburg: $74.6 million in total taxes - Belterra, Switzerland County: $21.6 million - Grand Victoria, Rising Sun: $18 million Full article at http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070119/NEWS01/701190372
April 25, 200718 yr From the 2/1/07 Lima News: Casino talks fail, city still negotiating with tribe Heather Rutz | [email protected] - 02.01.2007 LIMA — Negotiations that could have ended an American Indian tribe’s land claims lawsuit have failed. The Eastern Shawnee Tribe of Oklahoma and the Ohio attorney general had until Wednesday to develop language satisfactory to both parties in settlements the tribe has gained in the lawsuit it filed in 2005. While those talks have broken down, negotiations between the tribe and city of Lima are continuing, Law Director Tony Geiger said, outside of court. The city and tribe have negotiated a dismissal of the city from the lawsuit in exchange for continuing talks about a possible casino in Lima, Geiger said. Wednesday evening Attorney General Marc Dann said in a court brief a deal can’t be made. “Dann has concluded that the parties will be unable to reach agreement upon the contents of an order that will be acceptable to him, despite the good faith efforts of all parties to explore this option,” according to a court filing from Dann’s staff. Full article at http://www.limanews.com/story.php?IDnum=34769
April 25, 200718 yr All from the 2/2/07 Lima News: Language changes could affect lawsuit outcome Heather Rutz | [email protected] - 02.02.2007 LIMA — After resubmitting settlement agreements to U.S. District Court, an American Indian tribe is waiting to see if changes pass muster with a judge. Judge James Carr is back where he started before a November 2006 hearing on whether he should approve settlements gained by the Eastern Shawnee of Oklahoma in its land claims suit. The tribe resubmitted to the court previously reached settlements and the new agreement with the city of Lima this week, along with new language in proposed order the tribe wants Carr to grant. The tribe wants Carr to approve the settlements so it can petition the federal government to place the lands into trust to develop a casino in Ohio. The new language leaves Carr neutral. Full article at http://www.limanews.com/story.php?IDnum=34812
April 25, 200718 yr From the 2/3/07 Massillon Independent: Tribe names Lawrence in land-claim lawsuit By MATTHEW RINK [email protected] The Eastern Shawnee of Oklahoma asked a federal judge this week to make a Lawrence Township landowner a party defendant in its land-claim lawsuit. Tribe attorney Mason Morisset said the motion to add N&N Development LLC, which owns a 49-acre tract at Ohio 21 and Arcadia St. N.W. in the township, as a defendant in the case is merely a legal formality. The tribe wants to build casinos in a handful of Ohio communities, including Botkins, Monroe and Lewiston. It also finalized a settlement agreement this week with Lima. The tribe filed a lawsuit in 2005 in U.S. District Court seeking thousands of acres of former reservation land and hunting, gathering and fishing territory. The suit claims the tribe was unjustly forced from the land. Full story at http://www.indeonline.com/index.php?ID=13637&r=1&Category=3
April 25, 200718 yr From the 2/23/07 Lima News: State says tribe’s suit disguising motives of buying land Heather Rutz | [email protected] - 02.23.2007 LIMA — The state of Ohio wants to know what took the Eastern Shawnee of Oklahoma so long. Attorney General Marc Dann filed the state’s opposition this week to the American Indian tribe’s request for court approval of amended settlement agreements, a new settlement agreement with Lima and adding four new parties subject to those agreements. While the tribe’s pursuit of land in Shelby, Stark and Warren counties has been no secret, the owners of that land have not been part of the tribe’s land claims suit. The tribe wants to do so now, 15 months past a deadline to amend its complaint, Dann said in a court document. In addition, none of the land is within its original claim. “This action has served as a pretext for acquiring land for casinos that has nothing to do with historical tribal claims,” the filing reads. “The pattern here certainly indicates a coordinated and lengthy process by which the tribe arranged for options to purchase the sizable tracts of land with suitable highway access on which to locate its casinos, tracts of land that are not within the areas encompassed by the tribe’s land claims,” the filing reads. “And the tribe now asks this court to join these new parties, who own the land that the tribe really wants, as parties to this litigation.” Full article at http://www.limanews.com/story.php?IDnum=35520
April 25, 200718 yr From the 3/6/07 Lima News: Tribe, city say state’s argument without merit Heather Rutz | [email protected] - 03.06.2007 LIMA — The state’s objections to settlements between the Eastern Shawnee of Oklahoma and landowners are without legal merit, the tribe and city of Lima have argued. The tribe responded to Attorney General Marc Dann’s opposition to the tribe’s request for court approval of its settlements in its land claims lawsuit. “For almost eight months, the Ohio Attorney General’s Office has succeeded in delaying the end of this complex land possession litigation,” the tribe’s Thursday filing reads. “This delay appears aimed at nothing more than having the court endorse the attorney general’s view of public policy issues that might or might not arise in the future concerning the status of tribal land. ... The tribe’s claims are not on trial and the attorney general’s vague policy concerns with future events masquerading as legal theory should be rejected.” Full article at http://www.limanews.com/story.php?IDnum=35935
April 25, 200718 yr From the 4/4/07 Massillon Independent: Tribe’s casino strategy falls flat By MATTHEW RINK [email protected] A federal judge has dismissed a land-claim lawsuit by the Eastern Shawnee Tribe of Oklahoma that could have resulted in the construction of a casino in Lawrence Township and other sites across Ohio. “While I am always pleased when a case settles, I desire to remain completely neutral, and to take no action that would appear to favor either the plaintiff, the settling defendants, or the State of Ohio,” U.S. District Court Judge James G. Carr wrote in his ruling, which was filed Tuesday. “Accordingly, I decline to sign the revised proposed order due to the flaws enumerated herein.” Carr said that he was dismissing a series of proposed settlements hammered out between the tribe and land owners because, by approving them, it “could be perceived as accepting and endorsing the proposition that the settlements resolve ‘land claims’ under the (Indian Gaming Regulatory Act). Full article at http://www.indeonline.com/index.php?ID=15273&r=0&Category=3
April 25, 200718 yr From the 4/17/07 Lima News: Tribe, city OK with settlement Heather Rutz | [email protected] - 04.17.2007 LIMA — Now landowners in Ohio, the Eastern Shawnee of Oklahoma will take its court settlements to the federal government with requests to have that land taken into trust for casinos. Petitioning the Department of Interior’s Bureau of Indian Affairs is the next step for the tribe, now that it on Monday signed off on a proposed order dismissing the land claims lawsuit it filed in June 2005. The tribe and state both indicated in federal court filings Monday they had no problems with Judge James Carr’s proposed order. In that order, the tribe didn’t get language it wanted indicating the land as an “historical nexus” for the Eastern Shawnee and descriptions of settling a land claim. Attorney General Marc Dann said that language would have bolstered its petition with the federal government. Full article at http://www.limanews.com/story.php?IDnum=37414
April 25, 200718 yr From the 4/18/07 Lima News: Shawnee’s casino efforts still require years of work Heather Rutz | [email protected] - 04.18.2007 LIMA — With one long legal process nearly behind it, the Eastern Shawnee of Oklahoma will soon begin an equally long administrative journey, getting Ohio land in federal trust for casinos. “It’s an administrative process,” tribe attorney Mason Morisset said. “It’s long, complicated and detailed.” The tribe is beginning to prepare its application to the Bureau of Indian Affairs to have land taken into trust and that process includes doing environmental and economic impact studies of its own, Morisset said. Morisset’s experience is that once a tribe applies to have land taken into trust, it takes a minimum of 12 to 18 months for the process to work, and many times takes longer. Full article at http://www.limanews.com/story.php?IDnum=37475
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