January 3, 20241 yr 7 hours ago, TIm said: I just like to say this any chance I get. REMOVE ALL STREET PARKING FROM HIGH STREET IN THE SHORT NORTH. Thank you, that is all. Parallel parking is virtually useless. The denser the area the less it adds value, and it just causes more congestion as people try to get in and out. I understand a "loading zone" or valet pull up but permanent parking is foolish alongside a street.
January 4, 20241 yr 14 hours ago, columbus17 said: Parallel parking is virtually useless. The denser the area the less it adds value, and it just causes more congestion as people try to get in and out. I understand a "loading zone" or valet pull up but permanent parking is foolish alongside a street. Especially a street like High.
January 4, 20241 yr 14 hours ago, columbus17 said: Parallel parking is virtually useless. The denser the area the less it adds value, and it just causes more congestion as people try to get in and out. I understand a "loading zone" or valet pull up but permanent parking is foolish alongside a street. Happens way too frequently where someone goes to park in a spot but everyone behind them just starts going around them so they sit there scared to actually start parking which just causes more backups.
January 4, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, Pablo said: Backups are good. It slows down traffic. It's hard to overestimate how unpopular this view would be among the general population.
January 4, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Pablo said: Backups are good. It slows down traffic. Generally I agree from a pedestrian standpoint, but It does significantly hurt the appeal of transit for commuting. At times the 2 and 102 can barely manage to crawl through the SN, which is one of the main reasons I stopped using COTA daily to get from Clintonville to a job downtown Ideally we'd have a transit tunnel under this portion of High, but of course that's wildly out of reach for the foreseeable future in this country
January 4, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, NW24HX said: Generally I agree from a pedestrian standpoint, but It does significantly hurt the appeal of transit for commuting. At times the 2 and 102 can barely manage to crawl through the SN, which is one of the main reasons I stopped using COTA daily to get from Clintonville to a job downtown Ideally we'd have a transit tunnel under this portion of High, but of course that's wildly out of reach for the foreseeable future in this country If they just made the section from 5th to Goodale pedestrian only, with bus service, that would solve it almost instantly.
January 4, 20241 yr I also commute on High from Clintonville to downtown. In the mornings there is no traffic. On the way home High St is slow through campus, but only when students are in class. It's such an easy commute.
January 4, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, E Rocc said: It's hard to overestimate how unpopular this view would be among the general population. We're talking about slow traffic through heavily used pedestrian areas in the city, not about suburbanites complaining about slow traffic on the interstate.
January 4, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, Pablo said: We're talking about slow traffic through heavily used pedestrian areas in the city, not about suburbanites complaining about slow traffic on the interstate. People won't make the distinction, in general. Backups introduce inconsistency, which is even less popular than generally slow traffic.
January 4, 20241 yr From a pedestrian standpoint the cars perked on the street act as protection from out-of-control vehicles.
January 4, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, Pablo said: Backups are good. It slows down traffic. Backups on High Street, or anywhere, are not good. It creates situations where unpredictable things can happen and we want things to be as predictable as possible when we are on the road. Someone abruptly stops short because they noticed a spot, that could easily be an accident. We do not want to be relying on variable and unpredictable situations for traffic calming, we can install actual traffic calming measures. Edited January 4, 20241 yr by TIm
January 4, 20241 yr On 1/3/2024 at 10:03 AM, TIm said: I just like to say this any chance I get. REMOVE ALL STREET PARKING FROM HIGH STREET IN THE SHORT NORTH. Thank you, that is all. Hell, I would love for High St to car free between Goodale St to 1st Ave from 9pm - 3am on the weekends. Wall St and Pearl Alley both run parallel to High St and can accommodate pickups / ride sharing and still allow people to access the Short North Garages. Remove parking from 1st ave to 5th ave and only allow pickups and drop offs. This would still allow people to park in the multiple garages in the Short North, Easily walk across High St in a protected area that police can monitor. I think it would be a great compromise as it would prevent cars from flying down High St, still have access to easily reach every destination and make the entire area a more enjoyable experience. Edit: I'm not sure what the best option is, but having the bus routes change during the evening and possibly head east on Goodale from High St, and then North to 1st avenue where it will head West and connect with North High again. Edited January 4, 20241 yr by KyleofColumbus
January 4, 20241 yr Studies show that traffic congestion is good, leads to more infill, better transit (and more transit use) and ultimately, less driving. The SN, in my opinion, has "good" congestion. Eliminating parking would speed up traffic and encourage speeding. https://www.cnu.org/publicsquare/2018/06/06/congestion-can-be-good-study-reports https://ssti.us/2018/06/18/is-traffic-congestion-a-good-thing/ Quote A 2011 CityLab article by former Congress for the New Urbanism President and CEO John Norquist also suggests that there is good and bad congestion, much like there is good and bad cholesterol for the human body. You must have some cholesterol to stay alive and, in the same way, some congestion is essential for a city. For example, congestion in a historic downtown with many destinations and beautiful architecture means that many people are visiting—spending money, increasing real estate values, and walking. On the other hand, congestion on a highway would be defined as “bad” congestion. https://www.smartcitiesdive.com/ex/sustainablecitiescollective/12-ways-slow-down-traffic-car-oriented-city/262221/ Quote Slow traffic is not only good for encouraging street life, it’s also good for motorists, believe it or not. Slower traffic results in fewer accidents. The Sierra Club notes that, “recent studies have shown that narrow streets slow traffic and reduce vehicular crashes, increasing neighborhood safety.” Often times, we think that the obstacle-free, wide street is optimal for driving. But in reality, that kind of street only encourages faster traffic, which may seem good is you’re running late, but it’s bad for traffic safety, neighborhoods, getting people to walk and bike, and the general appeal of a city. 1. Add bike lanes. 2. Add parallel parking..... Somewhat related - The paradox of street design: If it feels a bit dangerous, it’s probably safer https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2021/8/6/the-key-to-slowing-traffic-is-street-design-not-speed-limits
January 4, 20241 yr If someone is in a hurry to get through I would suggest 4th or Summit. Columbus has plenty of roads meant to speed people through town where as the Short North is meant to be driven to. Columbus has an enormous amount of places to be driven through and needs more that are meant to be gone to.
January 4, 20241 yr I posted this over in the Transportation Forum as well but thought I'd throw it in here too in case anyone's interested... Crews will be setting beams on the new I-71 SB flyover ramp this weekend near the southern edge of Downtown as part of the Downtown Ramp Up project: https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/OHDOT/bulletins/3831809
January 5, 20241 yr On 4/6/2023 at 9:39 PM, columbus17 said: GOOGLE MAPS UPDATED DOWNTOWN!!!! It looks like Google Maps pushed through another 3D imagery update for the downtown area since the update back in April. The crane at 100 N High wasn't put up until the end of June. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9662141,-82.9974481,143a,35y,224.55h,74.71t/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu
January 7, 20241 yr On 1/4/2024 at 5:39 PM, CbusOrBust said: I posted this over in the Transportation Forum as well but thought I'd throw it in here too in case anyone's interested... Crews will be setting beams on the new I-71 SB flyover ramp this weekend near the southern edge of Downtown as part of the Downtown Ramp Up project: https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/OHDOT/bulletins/3831809 Another piece of the new I-71 SB flyover ramp is up just south of Downtown
January 8, 20241 yr 17 hours ago, CbusOrBust said: Another piece of the new I-71 SB flyover ramp is up just south of Downtown Is anyone else disappointed the flyover ramp is going to block views of downtown coming in from the west side?
January 8, 20241 yr ^Also, the view of the skyline when you are coming on NB 71 and take the ramp to merge into the 71/70 trench in Downtown.
January 8, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, KyleofColumbus said: Is anyone else disappointed the flyover ramp is going to block views of downtown coming in from the west side? I honestly don't see any need to protect views one can only see from behind the wheel of their car while driving.
January 8, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, KyleofColumbus said: Is anyone else disappointed the flyover ramp is going to block views of downtown coming in from the west side? Yeah, that stretch of I-70 is one of the most unimpeded and quintessential views of the city and the bridge is going to slice through the bottom quarter of it. And when it's completed there will be no view from the bridge except for passengers who will be able to turn their necks.
January 9, 20241 yr On 1/7/2024 at 5:04 PM, CbusOrBust said: Another piece of the new I-71 SB flyover ramp is up just south of Downtown Quick one from 315NB
January 9, 20241 yr 11 hours ago, CbusOrBust said: Quick one from 315NB Who's to bet they aren't setting any more beams today? 🤣
January 16, 20241 yr Columbus Athenaeum bought by out-of-state group that seeks to turn it into downtown music venue A downtown landmark now is under new ownership that has plans to turn the iconic building into a concert venue. Arkansas-based TempleLive, which operates music venues in former Masonic temples, has acquired Columbus' Athenaeum theater. This is the fourth temple the group has purchased. "We are thrilled to add the Athenaeum to our operational footprint," TempleLive President Rob Thomas said in a release. "Columbus is an exciting market with a vibrant music scene. We look forward to bringing amazing concerts and events to this well-known and historic venue." More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/01/16/athenaeum-purchase.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 16, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: Columbus Athenaeum bought by out-of-state group that seeks to turn it into downtown music venue A downtown landmark now is under new ownership that has plans to turn the iconic building into a concert venue. Arkansas-based TempleLive, which operates music venues in former Masonic temples, has acquired Columbus' Athenaeum theater. This is the fourth temple the group has purchased. "We are thrilled to add the Athenaeum to our operational footprint," TempleLive President Rob Thomas said in a release. "Columbus is an exciting market with a vibrant music scene. We look forward to bringing amazing concerts and events to this well-known and historic venue." More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/01/16/athenaeum-purchase.html It’s never fun when places get bought by out of state companies, but if they can make it what it could and should be, this could be great. With them owning other Masonic temples, it seems they at least know what they are doing. in theory there could be multiple concerts and events happening at the same time. Anything that brings more and more people downtown is an awesome thing.
January 17, 20241 yr Woda Cooper, CMHA team up on specialized housing project in east Columbus New apartments in east Columbus aim to provide workforce housing and supportive housing for homeless veterans. The $24 million project from affordable housing developers Woda Cooper and Columbus Metropolitan Housing Authority will have 84 units. Rents would range from about $405 to about $1,200, or for people making 30% to 80% of the area median income. One-, two- and three-bedroom units will be available at the development, which is called Broadleigh Lofts. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/01/17/woda-cooper-project.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 17, 20241 yr 18 hours ago, VintageLife said: It’s never fun when places get bought by out of state companies, but if they can make it what it could and should be, this could be great. With them owning other Masonic temples, it seems they at least know what they are doing. in theory there could be multiple concerts and events happening at the same time. Anything that brings more and more people downtown is an awesome thing. Hopefully they fix the acoustics in the different ballrooms. I've been here for 3 different weddings and the acoustics are much to be desired.
January 17, 20241 yr 49 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: Woda Cooper, CMHA team up on specialized housing project in east Columbus New apartments in east Columbus aim to provide workforce housing and supportive housing for homeless veterans. The $24 million project from affordable housing developers Woda Cooper and Columbus Metropolitan Housing Authority will have 84 units. Rents would range from about $405 to about $1,200, or for people making 30% to 80% of the area median income. One-, two- and three-bedroom units will be available at the development, which is called Broadleigh Lofts. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/01/17/woda-cooper-project.html Why do affordable housing projects all basically look like the majority of market-rate or "luxury" apartments being built? Or better question, why do all the "luxury" projects look like affordable housing at luxury prices?
January 17, 20241 yr I have a pic of ramp up, but I can’t post it. Can someone help me this keeps happening every time I try to post something.
January 17, 20241 yr 18 minutes ago, columbus17 said: I have a pic of ramp up, but I can’t post it. Can someone help me this keeps happening every time I try to post something. Click harder.
January 17, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, columbus17 said: I have a pic of ramp up, but I can’t post it. Can someone help me this keeps happening every time I try to post something. A. If it's the Ramp Up freeway project, it should go into the Innerbelt thread in Transportation B. What service are you using for photos? "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 17, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: A. If it's the Ramp Up freeway project, it should go into the Innerbelt thread in Transportation B. What service are you using for photos? I’m just posting them here? What service would I use?
January 17, 20241 yr @richNcincy^ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 17, 20241 yr 47 minutes ago, columbus17 said: I’m just posting them here? What service would I use? You are currently using the entirety of your 350 MB of UO storage. I'll increase it a bit, as we usually do. I'd also recommend resizing your pictures before you add them here, so you can save space.
January 18, 20241 yr Maronda Homes building 90 townhomes in north Columbus A national homebuilder plans a new townhome development in north Columbus. Maronda Homes will build 90 townhomes at 7373 Pingue Dr. The firm has been building in Central Ohio for about 25 years. The firm typically builds a detached single-family product, but in the past few years decided to add attached townhomes to its offerings to offer a wider variety of price points. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/01/18/maronda-homes-townhomes-north-columbus.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 18, 20241 yr What the new owner of the Columbus Athenaeum sees in Central Ohio Columbus' strengths drew the out-of-state buyer to the Columbus Athenaeum. Arkansas-based TempleLive, which operates music venues in former Masonic temples, bought the event and wedding venue in downtown Columbus at the end of 2023. The 200,000-square-foot Athenaeum was built in 1899. It's considered the largest building used solely for the Masonic order in the early 1900s. Rob Thomas, president of TempleLive, said nothing structurally will be changed about the building, but some repairs and upgrades will be made. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/01/18/columbus-athenaeum-templelive-buyer-plans.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 18, 20241 yr I'm not sure which thread this fits best in, so I'm dropping it here, but I just came across a New Structure Application for a 12-story building at 33 S 4th Street between the YWCA and the PNC tower. https://portal.columbus.gov/Permits/Default.aspx THIS PROJECT IS A HIGH RISE, MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING AND IS LOCATED AT 33 SOUTH 4TH STREET COLUMBUS, OH. E. THE SITE IS BOUNDED BY CAPITAL STREET (NORTH), YMCA BUILDING (SOUTH), S. 4TH STREET (EAST), AND LAZELLE STREET (WEST). THIS BUILDING CONTAINS A TOTAL OF 224 DWELLING UNITS. THE PROPOSED TWELVE-STORY STRUCTURE CONSISTS OF A 10 STORY TYPE I-B BUILDING (BUILDING A) WHICH SITS OVER A (3) TIERS TYPE I-B PARKING GARAGE STRUCTURE. BUILDING A IS OF TYPE I-B (RATING OF II-A) CONSTRUCTION USING METAL FRAMED PANEL CONSTRUCTION AND CONTAINS 221 DWELLING UNITS, STUDIOS, 1-BEDROOMS, AND 2-BEDROOMS. AN EXTERIOR AMENITY GREEN ROOF IS BEING PROVIDED AT THE 3RD TIER. AN INTERIOR AMENITY ROOF TOP CLUBHOUSE AND OUTDOOR POOL DECK ARE BEING PROVIDED ON THE TOP FLOOR. THE PARKING GARAGE IS COMPOSED OF (3) PARKING TIERS (B1, LVL 1 & 1.5) ONE OF WHICH IS A BASEMENT. THE GARAGE IS OF I-B (RATING OF II-A) CONSTRUCTION. THE GARAGE CONTAINS PARKING, AMENITY USES, AND (3) LIVE WORK UNITS. BOTH BUILDINGS ARE FULLY SPRINKLERED IN ACCORDANCE WITH NFPA 13. THIS SITE IS LOCATED IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT WITH UNLIMITED HEIGHT ZONING HEIGHT (1532-2013)
January 18, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: I'm not sure which thread this fits best in, so I'm dropping it here, but I just came across a New Structure Application for a 12-story building at 33 S 4th Street between the YWCA and the PNC tower. https://portal.columbus.gov/Permits/Default.aspx THIS PROJECT IS A HIGH RISE, MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING AND IS LOCATED AT 33 SOUTH 4TH STREET COLUMBUS, OH. E. THE SITE IS BOUNDED BY CAPITAL STREET (NORTH), YMCA BUILDING (SOUTH), S. 4TH STREET (EAST), AND LAZELLE STREET (WEST). THIS BUILDING CONTAINS A TOTAL OF 224 DWELLING UNITS. THE PROPOSED TWELVE-STORY STRUCTURE CONSISTS OF A 10 STORY TYPE I-B BUILDING (BUILDING A) WHICH SITS OVER A (3) TIERS TYPE I-B PARKING GARAGE STRUCTURE. BUILDING A IS OF TYPE I-B (RATING OF II-A) CONSTRUCTION USING METAL FRAMED PANEL CONSTRUCTION AND CONTAINS 221 DWELLING UNITS, STUDIOS, 1-BEDROOMS, AND 2-BEDROOMS. AN EXTERIOR AMENITY GREEN ROOF IS BEING PROVIDED AT THE 3RD TIER. AN INTERIOR AMENITY ROOF TOP CLUBHOUSE AND OUTDOOR POOL DECK ARE BEING PROVIDED ON THE TOP FLOOR. THE PARKING GARAGE IS COMPOSED OF (3) PARKING TIERS (B1, LVL 1 & 1.5) ONE OF WHICH IS A BASEMENT. THE GARAGE IS OF I-B (RATING OF II-A) CONSTRUCTION. THE GARAGE CONTAINS PARKING, AMENITY USES, AND (3) LIVE WORK UNITS. BOTH BUILDINGS ARE FULLY SPRINKLERED IN ACCORDANCE WITH NFPA 13. THIS SITE IS LOCATED IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT WITH UNLIMITED HEIGHT ZONING HEIGHT (1532-2013) Love to see it, am I reading it right that it will have retail component? If not the commission needs to make sure it has something. That is a huge space and not having any type of retail or ground floor interaction would be horrible. Edited January 18, 20241 yr by VintageLife
January 18, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Love to see it, am I reading it right that it will have retail component? If not the commission needs to make sure it has something. That is a huge space and not having any type of retail or ground floor interaction would be horrible. It says the garage levels will contain "amenity uses" as well "live work units", so it seems there will be something on the ground floor aside from just parking. I completely agree though. There has to be some commercial space at the street level.
January 18, 20241 yr Just now, Pablo said: Interesting. 33 S 4th used to be the location of the Dispatch printing press. I guess that's why they are calling it the Dispatch Tower, although I wish they would go 20+ stories and really make it a legit tower.
January 18, 20241 yr Another sizable surface parking lot bites the dust. More infill and walkability block by block of our city continues. I'm all for it. Right behind the renovated Preston Center and along the soon to be high line. Also several restaurant/breweries going in nearby among other residential conversions within the block. Keep em coming!!
January 18, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: I guess that's why they are calling it the Dispatch Tower, although I wish they would go 20+ stories and really make it a legit tower. Eh, I just want more 10-20 story builds mixed into the area. I could care less for a bunch of 20+ buildings, as long as this type of infill continues
January 18, 20241 yr I recently came into possession of a rumor that may or may not end up having weight, that Edwards is luring Vorys into their newly renovated Preston Center over on Broad Street and Vorys is considering selling their current office to Edwards, along with the sizable surface lot at the corner of Gay and 3rd they currently own. Could be an interesting transfer and potentially invigorate more activity and commercial/residential on Gay.
January 18, 20241 yr 31 minutes ago, Gnoraa said: I recently came into possession of a rumor that may or may not end up having weight, that Edwards is luring Vorys into their newly renovated Preston Center over on Broad Street and Vorys is considering selling their current office to Edwards, along with the sizable surface lot at the corner of Gay and 3rd they currently own. Could be an interesting transfer and potentially invigorate more activity and commercial/residential on Gay. This would be amazing and I would love to see some townhomes along Gay with a bigger building at the corner and down 3rd
January 18, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, VintageLife said: Eh, I just want more 10-20 story builds mixed into the area. I could care less for a bunch of 20+ buildings, as long as this type of infill continues Totally agree! But if you are going to call it a tower, make it a legit tower lol. But yea, we’ve the number of 10-15 story builds we’ve seen pop up just in the last five years has been awesome to see and I don’t think it’s going to slow down anytime soon.
January 18, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Gnoraa said: I recently came into possession of a rumor that may or may not end up having weight, that Edwards is luring Vorys into their newly renovated Preston Center over on Broad Street and Vorys is considering selling their current office to Edwards, along with the sizable surface lot at the corner of Gay and 3rd they currently own. Could be an interesting transfer and potentially invigorate more activity and commercial/residential on Gay. We need a 15-20 story building there asap.
January 19, 20241 yr 5 hours ago, VintageLife said: Eh, I just want more 10-20 story builds mixed into the area. I could care less for a bunch of 20+ buildings, as long as this type of infill continues It really isn't feasible to go 20+ financially unless you're getting some insane tax benefits. I imagine this building is another Edwards project - he's the only guy in the city other than Kaufman with both the $$$ and b@lls to pull a project of this scale off. Despite the architecture of his two other projects, he's an amazing developer and truly seems to care and want to invest in the city in an impactful way. If we do ever see a capitol square tower, I'd bet my money he'd have some sort of involvement.
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