Sawmill Athletic Club (on Hayden Rd) is completely down now

 

 

Pics of several different developments around the city in CU’s April construction roundup:

 

 

https://columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-april-2022-pt1-we1/?fbclid=IwAR333qu6DNpp0GdWphds0_hUox5MAn3YVsYfz_auLQguNhYU9rRmmggW6z8

Here's what's next for Columbus' zoning code overhaul

 

Columbus is taking the next steps to overhaul its zoning code.

 

Columbus City Council Monday evening will consider two contracts for services related to the retooling of the antiquated code.

 

The Department of Building and Zoning Services plans to contract with Rama Consulting, who will gather community feedback on potential changes to the code. If approved by council, the contract would be worth $697,000 over two years.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/04/18/zoning-code-overhaul.html

 

^This board could have provided council with the same analysis!

 

Quote

Lisa Wise Consulting led the first step in the retooling process, releasing a report last fall that identified the biggest problems in the current code, including its complexity, issues with council variances and the subjective and laborious nature of interactions with area commissions.

 

Also from last night’s City Council meeting:

 

Nationwide Arena gets millions for upgrades, but official suggests 'major facelift' needed

 

“The Columbus City Council on Monday approved the distribution of $2.4 million in ticket tax proceeds for Nationwide Arena improvements that will go toward $13.1 million in work including locker room, elevator and lighting upgrades.

 

But Don Brown, executive director of the Franklin County Convention Facilities Authority, which owns the facility, said the arena is going to need more work — and much more money —  to stay competitive in luring sports, concerts and other events.”

 

 And more logistics centers possibly coming near Rickenbacker:

 

”The City Council also voted to rezone a 180-acre parcel at 6680 Lockbourne Rd. on the Southeast Side where a developer plans to build four warehouses near Rickenbacker International Airport.

 

The warehouses will be part of a $250 million development involving two more warehouses to the north. Exxcel Project Management, of Columbus, is the developer. Cliff Aiken, Exxcel's chief investment officer, said the four warehouses would total 2.4 million square feet, and that Exxcel is in discussion with several companies to occupy them.“

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/politics/2022/04/19/nationwide-arena-columbus-upgrades-amid-major-facelift-calls/7324005001/

4 hours ago, amped91 said:

Also from last night’s City Council meeting:

 

Nationwide Arena gets millions for upgrades, but official suggests 'major facelift' needed

 

“The Columbus City Council on Monday approved the distribution of $2.4 million in ticket tax proceeds for Nationwide Arena improvements that will go toward $13.1 million in work including locker room, elevator and lighting upgrades.

 

But Don Brown, executive director of the Franklin County Convention Facilities Authority, which owns the facility, said the arena is going to need more work — and much more money —  to stay competitive in luring sports, concerts and other events.”

 

 And more logistics centers possibly coming near Rickenbacker:

 

”The City Council also voted to rezone a 180-acre parcel at 6680 Lockbourne Rd. on the Southeast Side where a developer plans to build four warehouses near Rickenbacker International Airport.

 

The warehouses will be part of a $250 million development involving two more warehouses to the north. Exxcel Project Management, of Columbus, is the developer. Cliff Aiken, Exxcel's chief investment officer, said the four warehouses would total 2.4 million square feet, and that Exxcel is in discussion with several companies to occupy them.“

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/politics/2022/04/19/nationwide-arena-columbus-upgrades-amid-major-facelift-calls/7324005001/

 

Kind of wild to think that the arena is over 20 years old.

13 minutes ago, DarkandStormy said:

 

Kind of wild to think that the arena is over 20 years old.

No kidding. I couldn’t believe they were already talking about such a massive upgrade. 

I wonder if you can walk into a locker room and tell that it is "So 2000 inside"

1 minute ago, amped91 said:

No kidding. I couldn’t believe they were already talking about such a massive upgrade. 

 

For reference, the Georgia Dome in Atlanta only lasted 25 years.  The Texas Rangers played in the old Arlington Stadium from 1972 to 1993 (21 years), and the Rangers then moved to The Ballpark in Arlington, where they only played from 1994 to 2020 (26 years).  The Braves in Atlanta only played at Turner Field from 1997 to 2016 (19 years).

 

Those are just a few examples and all but the Georgia Dome were outdoor venues.

5 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

I wonder if you can walk into a locker room and tell that it is "So 2000 inside"

 

 

 

They just did a locker room upgrade last year I think.  There's a longer video (or article) out there that showed the before and after.

The disappointing thing about Nationwide is it was such a beautiful building designed and built with hockey in mind, but the CBJ pretty much have done nothing that would have showcased it nationally since they started playing.

30 minutes ago, John7165 said:

The disappointing thing about Nationwide is it was such a beautiful building designed and built with hockey in mind, but the CBJ pretty much have done nothing that would have showcased it nationally since they started playing.

 

The handful of times they've been in the playoffs and actually done something good, it has received a lot of attention for how loud and intimidating it can be. Unfortunately, that's a rarity. 

1 hour ago, John7165 said:

The disappointing thing about Nationwide is it was such a beautiful building designed and built with hockey in mind, but the CBJ pretty much have done nothing that would have showcased it nationally since they started playing.

There have been several NCAA championships and major UFC events there as recently as right before the pandemic. It’s a great place to watch a basketball game, I really wish OSU would try to lure the B1G championship or go after the MAC championship(long shot bc of the conference being based in Cleveland).

On 4/16/2022 at 6:51 PM, amped91 said:

Pics of several different developments around the city in CU’s April construction roundup:

 

 

https://columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-april-2022-pt1-we1/?fbclid=IwAR333qu6DNpp0GdWphds0_hUox5MAn3YVsYfz_auLQguNhYU9rRmmggW6z8

The second round of construction photos is up at CU:

 

https://columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-april-2022-part-2-we1/

 

I thought it was interesting they included Easton in the update, since I haven’t seen any progress in ~two years, but, then again, it’s been probably a couple months since the last time I was there. Anyone notice any recent activity?

 

Anyone know what's going in on Stelzer Road directly across from Genessee Ave?

 

Crews are clearing hundreds of trees from the site...

  Here's a couple pics:

 

 

 

27 minutes ago, CbusOrBust said:

Anyone know what's going in on Stelzer Road directly across from Genessee Ave?

 

Crews are clearing hundreds of trees from the site...

  Here's a couple pics:

 

 

 

Could it be one of these two projects from Metro? From a December CBF article:

 

”Metro Development is gearing up to add two new developments near Easton and John Glenn Columbus International Airport. 

 

Columbus City Council on Monday approved a rezoning for Walden Lakes, which will break ground in mid-January, said Metro Development CEO Tre' Giller.

 

The multifamily development will have 15 buildings with one-, two- and three bedroom units. There will be 360 units total at 2600 Stelzer Road. 
 

Metro Development is also working on another multifamily community in that area, to be called the Residences at Eden Park, located near Cassady Avenue and Agler Road. That development will likely break ground this summer, Giller said, as it is in engineering now.”

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2021/12/08/walden-lakes.html

 

Time table would fit the Eden Park dev, but idk if it’s the right location you’re describing. 

1 hour ago, CbusOrBust said:

Anyone know what's going in on Stelzer Road directly across from Genessee Ave?

 

Crews are clearing hundreds of trees from the site...

 

It's America's Floor Source. An expansion of their site directly behind here on Citygate. A new showroom and warehouse facility.

There was a Intel Forum at Easton this morning but I can't seem to find a video from it anywhere.  If anyone has a link to the video, could you please pass it along?

I would greatly appreciate it.  

This is most likely going to come across as unfavorable to many but this all seems very performative to me. 

 

At this point city leaders, developers, and residents know what is needed and desired downtown. Much of the presentation is very much them stating what needs to be done. To me, the survey reads more like a quiz than an actual ideas survey. So, there's going to be alot of dog and pony show to create a list of things they been done knew and maybe a few pet projects. They could just take half of the last 2 plans and finish those goals. But we will go through all of this process for community buy in?

 

I guess I'm also not sure what the end goal of such a lengthy process is to come up with the same information and goals well known to everybody and a small list of wants, many of which have almost certainly been discussed by the CDDC as well. What is the end game here?

 

How many strategic plans will need to include transit and a pedestrian bridge from Arena District to the Peninsula before it happens? Better transit options? More housing. Less parking lots, etc. Do we need a year worth of meetings to say the same things we have been saying for 20 years at this point? At best the survey seeks to identity some new park locations or ideas for the 3rd cultural spot on the peninsula but the rest is just rote repetition of the downtown goals or general good urban design practices. The biggest questions they ask for input on have answers and they know them.

 

Here folks, 'play around with street design and you can see what fits in some of our very own streets'. Ok, but are you going to ACTUALLY do anything about the complete streets or continue to prioritize cars, whether or not the urban development needs like us show up to these meetings and push for it? 

 

I'm all for the plan. But I suppose I'm more of a 'just publish your priorities and be done with it' than the current process. 

 

Also interesting to see the CDDC jump on the warehouse district branding. I'm not anti-warehouse district. Just interesting how that has kind of taken off as a thing so quickly. 

 

Also, perhaps this needs it's own thread. The random thread is getting a bit hefty IMO.

2 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

This is most likely going to come across as unfavorable to many but this all seems very performative to me. 

 

At this point city leaders, developers, and residents know what is needed and desired downtown. Much of the presentation is very much them stating what needs to be done. To me, the survey reads more like a quiz than an actual ideas survey. So, there's going to be alot of dog and pony show to create a list of things they been done knew and maybe a few pet projects. They could just take half of the last 2 plans and finish those goals. But we will go through all of this process for community buy in?

 

I guess I'm also not sure what the end goal of such a lengthy process is to come up with the same information and goals well known to everybody and a small list of wants, many of which have almost certainly been discussed by the CDDC as well. What is the end game here?

 

How many strategic plans will need to include transit and a pedestrian bridge from Arena District to the Peninsula before it happens? Better transit options? More housing. Less parking lots, etc. Do we need a year worth of meetings to say the same things we have been saying for 20 years at this point? At best the survey seeks to identity some new park locations or ideas for the 3rd cultural spot on the peninsula but the rest is just rote repetition of the downtown goals or general good urban design practices. The biggest questions they ask for input on have answers and they know them.

 

Here folks, 'play around with street design and you can see what fits in some of our very own streets'. Ok, but are you going to ACTUALLY do anything about the complete streets or continue to prioritize cars, whether or not the urban development needs like us show up to these meetings and push for it? 

 

I'm all for the plan. But I suppose I'm more of a 'just publish your priorities and be done with it' than the current process. 

 

Also interesting to see the CDDC jump on the warehouse district branding. I'm not anti-warehouse district. Just interesting how that has kind of taken off as a thing so quickly. 

 

Also, perhaps this needs it's own thread. The random thread is getting a bit hefty IMO.

 

Couldn't agree more.  It's all just paying people a bunch of money for constant intellectual masturbation on things we all know and understand need to happen.  Columbus loves paying people to study things, only to immediately shelve the results and begin another study a year or two later.  Look no further than every transit study since 1980.  

And yes, the "complete streets" thing in the city has been a joke.  The Indianola drama is a prime example.  The facts overwhelmingly support that bike lanes don't harm businesses- and usually help them, but the city is considering a less ideal plan just because some people think it will harm the neighborhood.  Those people objecting to them are wrong.  Just build the bike lanes instead of worrying about parking or what another Clintonville Karen thinks, for god's sake.  Good, successful urbanity should not be stopped by ignorant people who don't know what they're talking about. There will always be objections to change, but the city really needs to start letting the facts and evidence dictate planning rather than the tiny, but very vocal minority that shows up to public input meetings.

Edited April 29, 20223 yr by jonoh81

15 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

Good, successful urbanity should not be stopped by ignorant people who don't know what they're talking about.

 

That should be plastered on every city limits in this country. 

42 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

 

Couldn't agree more.  It's all just paying people a bunch of money for constant intellectual masturbation on things we all know and understand need to happen.  Columbus loves paying people to study things, only to immediately shelve the results and begin another study a year or two later.  Look no further than every transit study since 1980.  

And yes, the "complete streets" thing in the city has been a joke.  The Indianola drama is a prime example.  The facts overwhelmingly support that bike lanes don't harm businesses- and usually help them, but the city is considering a less ideal plan just because some people think it will harm the neighborhood.  Those people objecting to them are wrong.  Just build the bike lanes instead of worrying about parking or what another Clintonville Karen thinks, for god's sake.  Good, successful urbanity should not be stopped by ignorant people who don't know what they're talking about. There will always be objections to change, but the city really needs to start letting the facts and evidence dictate planning rather than the tiny, but very vocal minority that shows up to public input meetings.

 

Dayton just does it. Road diets and bike lanes all over town. They ask for forgiveness rather than permission. Little forgiveness is required.

3 hours ago, GCrites80s said:

 

Dayton just does it. Road diets and bike lanes all over town. They ask for forgiveness rather than permission. Little forgiveness is required.

That’s because it’s in Dayton which hasn’t grown since the 60’s. Columbus started growing then.

The neighborhood residents in Columbus that resist the changes live in neighborhoods that haven't grown very much since then either such as Clintonville.

You can't grow if you don't let folks build. Build all the bike lanes and sidewalks you want, but no new units means no growth. And that's the idea. Keep (insert neighborhood) Exclusive. 

56 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

The neighborhood residents in Columbus that resist the changes live in neighborhoods that haven't grown very much since then either such as Clintonville.

But they also haven’t lost residents, which similar areas(which there really aren’t any) have not. This is not an apples to apples scenario. 

52 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

You can't grow if you don't let folks build. Build all the bike lanes and sidewalks you want, but no new units means no growth. And that's the idea. Keep (insert neighborhood) Exclusive. 

 

There are 2 main types of exclusion going on- economic and racial- though there is overlap.  The neighborhoods that see the most successful infrastructure and project forced cancelations tend to be overwhelmingly made up of upper middle class and they overwhelmingly lack diversity, and they are usually demographically stagnant.  Clintonville, German Village, GH, etc. all fall into those descriptors.    

The only way that's going to change is through zoning, which will remove a good portion- though not nearly all- of the excuses used to block projects.  Beyond that, like I said, I don't know why the city keeps kowtowing to every Karen with an opinion.  Good urbanity is not based on popular opinion, but decades of established results.

1 hour ago, wpcc88 said:

But they also haven’t lost residents, which similar areas(which there really aren’t any) have not. This is not an apples to apples scenario. 

 

Technically, all the areas in question did lose residents between the mid-late 20th Century.  Clintonville certainly did.  But what took place in other neighborhoods did not happen there: the losses weren't replaced by people of any other demographics because the neighborhoods never really got that much less expensive.  I suspect some of this has to do with the way public dollars were being allocated.

Edited April 29, 20223 yr by jonoh81

Fewer kids, fewer secretaries and typing pool workers driving back and forth from Downtown on Summit, 4th and Indianola, and people not all driving Downtown from Clintonville, Beechwold and Old North to shop as compared to the '60s when traffic likely peaked through there.

8 hours ago, wpcc88 said:

That’s because it’s in Dayton which hasn’t grown since the 60’s. Columbus started growing then.

 

Logically, the "growing" city would be the one building road diets and bike lanes all over town since it has, well, new money.  Plus, it would be less-likely to be NIMBY (aka ask for forgiveness rather than permission) since it would be new people moving in and less old money/ways getting in the way of progress i.e. Charlotte.

 

So to Gordon's point, Columbus has no excuse if "stagnant" Dayton can build it easily without opposition. 

 

-signed, ColumbusDaytonMan.

On 4/28/2022 at 1:34 PM, Luvcbus said:

There was a Intel Forum at Easton this morning but I can't seem to find a video from it anywhere.  If anyone has a link to the video, could you please pass it along?

I would greatly appreciate it.  

You probably may have found links to this event.  There is a link to the 2 hour plus presentation here 

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/columbus-lieutenant-governor-jon-husted-central-businesses-intels-investment-jobs-workers-economy-growth-licking-county-semiconductor-plant-computer-chip-factories-4-28-2022

ABC is doing a series next week which may provide additional information.  

 

Working near this site, development is ramping up and will continue once annexation is final along with the move out of purchased properties.  Area roads has started construction and truck traffic has already been increasing.  I can't imagine the scene when the facility is actually a full on construction site.

2 hours ago, ColDayMan said:

 

Logically, the "growing" city would be the one building road diets and bike lanes all over town since it has, well, new money.  Plus, it would be less-likely to be NIMBY (aka ask for forgiveness rather than permission) since it would be new people moving in and less old money/ways getting in the way of progress i.e. Charlotte.

 

So to Gordon's point, Columbus has no excuse if "stagnant" Dayton can build it easily without opposition. 

 

-signed, ColumbusDaytonMan.

Have you spent significant time in Charlotte? As someone who has and does(as a matter of fact I was there just this week) I don’t think that’s an apples to apples comparison either other than they’ve both been growing for about the same amount of time. 

Columbus has as much or more bike lanes or “road diets” as all of the above. Look at summit and probably 4th soon, look at high street from campus to downtown. Also Columbus has a great bike path along the river that can get you to the same destinations and connects the neighborhoods via bike lanes. If this all stems back to the Indianola argument from last month I’m going to rest my case there and leave it alone. 

6 hours ago, wpcc88 said:

Columbus has as much or more bike lanes or “road diets” as all of the above. Look at summit and probably 4th soon, look at high street from campus to downtown. Also Columbus has a great bike path along the river that can get you to the same destinations and connects the neighborhoods via bike lanes. 

 

High street has no bike lanes. Sharrows don't count as biking infrastructure. Period.  I live in the most well connected bike Corridor in the city and bike as much as I can and I will still say the bike infrastructure in Columbus is mediocre at best. The only time I dare high street is in the morning before traffic even starts. And getting east/west is even more miserable. The gains Columbus makes are modest at best.  

 

I'll say what I said in the COTA thread before. Columbus, Central Ohio, and state leaders are so focused on 2050 that they lose the sense of urgency for the now. We spend so much time thinking about 'what are we going to need in the future' rather than 'what shoukd we have already had or need now'.  It really isn't rocket science anymore. It's a matter of putting them into motion. These things need to have happened to serve the residents now and attract growth now. 

 

As for other cities, there's always many factors at play  but I will say that compared to other peer cities, of which I have spent alot of time in covering significant portions of the cities over periods of multiple weeks, part of the reason Columbus is losing out is Columbus is so afraid to make those bold moves on a larger scale that might inconvenience cars or car centric residences and businesses that others aren't. 

 

There's no reason that the summit and 4th project should be the ONLY fully dedicated and protected bike lanes in the city more than 6 years later. That's not a highlight or accomplishment to tout anymore. Other than a small section downtown, Columbus has failed to adopt bus only lanes which is common practice. We are still terrified to shut down High Street in the Short North during Gallery Hop instead giving cars 5x the amount of space during the biggest pedestrian events of the year. 

 

The Short North cap. It was a first of its kind in the country. Cities from all over came to see it and study it. It took almost 20 years for us to get any semblance of another. In the meantime other cities have been running circles around Columbus building entire parks with pavilions, buildings, etc. The best we can do anymore is the addition of some greenery while we add 6 lanes of car traffic. 'Cap Capable' isn't enough. We are bold enough to re-envision a river but not bold enough to re-envision the river of cars that divide our core whether it's 70/71/670/Broad St etc. 

 

Columbus has a track record of doing some small scale projects successfully but it has not been good at scaling up. 

 

I'll post this again from 2010.

 

Mods, can we get a CDDC Strategic Plan thread? 

 

 

6 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

 Mods, can we get a CDDC Strategic Plan thread? 

Anyone can start a thread. Up at the top, click the “Start new topic” next to the “Reply to this topic” button. In general, please make sure there isn’t already a “similar-enough” thread, by using the search feature, which has an advanced setting enabling the search of terms strictly in the thread title. 

The good thing about that @DTCL11is that you can go two blocks over and have a protected bike lane if you’re coming from the north. High Street is a US route and main thoroughfare, has been long before us.

13 hours ago, ColDayMan said:

 

 

 

So to Gordon's point, Columbus has no excuse if "stagnant" Dayton can build it easily without opposition. 

 

-signed, ColumbusDaytonMan.

 

Cincinnati users be like, "I don't see where Gordon Bombay posted in this thread"

4 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

 

 

 

I'll say what I said in the COTA thread before. Columbus, Central Ohio, and state leaders are so focused on 2050 that they lose the sense of urgency for the now. We spend so much time thinking about 'what are we going to need in the future' rather than 'what shoukd we have already had or need now'.  It really isn't rocket science anymore. It's a matter of putting them into motion. These things need to have happened to serve the residents now and attract growth now. 

 

 

 

Today Columbus makes Future Columbus do all the work. Future Columbus is really going to hate Today Columbus in the same way we hate '60s and '70s Columbus for what they did to Downtown and what they didn't do when all that federal rail transit money was being handed out in the '70s and early 2010s.

Edited April 30, 20223 yr by GCrites80s

12 hours ago, wpcc88 said:

The good thing about that @DTCL11is that you can go two blocks over and have a protected bike lane if you’re coming from the north. High Street is a US route and main thoroughfare, has been long before us.

 

 

US-23 leaves High Street at Morse and doesn't return until Main. An enormous amount of people don't know this until it's pointed out to them.

Edited May 1, 20223 yr by GCrites80s

9 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

 

 

US-23 leaves High Street at Morse and doesn't return until Main. An enormous amount of people don't know this until it's pointed out to them.

So it’s Indianola or 71? Because now that you mention it I did know that, the signs are on 4th & Hudson.

On 4/30/2022 at 10:09 PM, wpcc88 said:

So it’s Indianola or 71? Because now that you mention it I did know that, the signs are on 4th & Hudson.

 

From Morse Rd, US 23 goes onto Indianola Ave, then jogs over to Summit/3rd (SB) and 4th (NB) at Hudson. It returns to High St using Mound and Fulton downtown.

On 4/19/2022 at 2:25 PM, wpcc88 said:

There have been several NCAA championships and major UFC events there as recently as right before the pandemic. It’s a great place to watch a basketball game, I really wish OSU would try to lure the B1G championship or go after the MAC championship(long shot bc of the conference being based in Cleveland).

So I saw in the Cincinnati thread that the New Orleans team might be relocating. Too bad we do not have a go-getter like Coleman to try 2012 all over again, but with another weapon to be used-the coming boom with Intel! 

 

*We are booming/Intel coming/great site already existing and getting renovated/good rivalry potential with hated Cleveland/etc. etc. 

 

We just need a leader here instead of a head administrator(current mayor). Without one we have no chance at all. Too bad. We don't have the legacy stuff that older cities have and should fight tooth and nail for every. single. large-scale  cultural amenity that we even have the remotest chance of getting. 

 

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

25 minutes ago, Toddguy said:

So I saw in the Cincinnati thread that the New Orleans team might be relocating. Too bad we do not have a go-getter like Coleman to try 2012 all over again, but with another weapon to be used-the coming boom with Intel! 

 

*We are booming/Intel coming/great site already existing and getting renovated/good rivalry potential with hated Cleveland/etc. etc. 

 

We just need a leader here instead of a head administrator(current mayor). Without one we have no chance at all. Too bad. We don't have the legacy stuff that older cities have and should fight tooth and nail for every. single. large-scale  cultural amenity that we even have the remotest chance of getting. 

 

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

This isn't on topic at all, but what New Orleans sports team are you referring to? I'm curious to read up on that.

1 hour ago, TIm said:

This isn't on topic at all, but what New Orleans sports team are you referring to? I'm curious to read up on that.

They're referring to the Pelicans.

Interesting. I could see an NBA team eventually working here. Make it part of the AD and put it in the triangle. 

2 hours ago, Toddguy said:

So I saw in the Cincinnati thread that the New Orleans team might be relocating. Too bad we do not have a go-getter like Coleman to try 2012 all over again, but with another weapon to be used-the coming boom with Intel! 

 

*We are booming/Intel coming/great site already existing and getting renovated/good rivalry potential with hated Cleveland/etc. etc. 

 

We just need a leader here instead of a head administrator(current mayor).

 

I mean, he'd consider showing up to a meeting about it

3 hours ago, amped91 said:

Interesting. I could see an NBA team eventually working here. Make it part of the AD and put it in the triangle. 

 

The best chance Columbus has of landing an NBA franchise (whether by relocation or expansion) in the next five to ten years could be LeBron James.

Here me out...

 

Supposedly, LeBron wants to own a team when he's done playing.

Columbus would make sense for a few reasons...

 

1- NBA teams and NHL teams often share an arena, so Nationwide Arena could potentially be the home arena for both franchises, at least for a while.

 

2- The City of Columbus and the Columbus Metro Area are growing rapidly.

 

3- LeBron is very familiar with both the city and the state, and is in Columbus often.

 

4- LeBron apparently isn't the biggest fan of Dan Gilbert (the owner of the Cavs).  Even though there aren't a whole lot of Cavs fans in Columbus, there are some.  Presumably, most Cavs fans in town would switch allegiances, which would shrink the Cavs fanbase a bit and hurt the Cavs bottom line.

 

5- This would set up a natural rivalry for both Ohio teams.

 

 

I'm not saying I think this will definitely happen or anything but I think it's a possibility that's worth mentioning.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Luvcbus said:

 

The best chance Columbus has of landing an NBA franchise (whether by relocation or expansion) in the next five to ten years could be LeBron James.

Here me out...

 

Supposedly, LeBron wants to own a team when he's done playing.

Columbus would make sense for a few reasons...

 

1- NBA teams and NHL teams often share an arena, so Nationwide Arena could potentially be the home arena for both franchises, at least for a while.

 

2- The City of Columbus and the Columbus Metro Area are growing rapidly.

 

3- LeBron is very familiar with both the city and the state, and is in Columbus often.

 

4- LeBron apparently isn't the biggest fan of Dan Gilbert (the owner of the Cavs).  Even though there aren't a whole lot of Cavs fans in Columbus, there are some.  Presumably, most Cavs fans in town would switch allegiances, which would shrink the Cavs fanbase a bit and hurt the Cavs bottom line.

 

5- This would set up a natural rivalry for both Ohio teams.

 

 

I'm not saying I think this will definitely happen or anything but I think it's a possibility that's worth mentioning.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Share the Arena...yes!

 

I mean you miss 100 percent of the shots you do not take. The city can at least try. It is worth mentioning. It is not likely, but it is not impossible either. 

9 hours ago, Luvcbus said:

 

The best chance Columbus has of landing an NBA franchise (whether by relocation or expansion) in the next five to ten years could be LeBron James.

Here me out...

 

Supposedly, LeBron wants to own a team when he's done playing.

Columbus would make sense for a few reasons...

 

1- NBA teams and NHL teams often share an arena, so Nationwide Arena could potentially be the home arena for both franchises, at least for a while.

 

2- The City of Columbus and the Columbus Metro Area are growing rapidly.

 

3- LeBron is very familiar with both the city and the state, and is in Columbus often.

 

4- LeBron apparently isn't the biggest fan of Dan Gilbert (the owner of the Cavs).  Even though there aren't a whole lot of Cavs fans in Columbus, there are some.  Presumably, most Cavs fans in town would switch allegiances, which would shrink the Cavs fanbase a bit and hurt the Cavs bottom line.

 

5- This would set up a natural rivalry for both Ohio teams.

 

 

I'm not saying I think this will definitely happen or anything but I think it's a possibility that's worth mentioning.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would be shocked if Lebron bought and moved a team here… however never say never, Seattle will be the next city to have a team though(again) and the rumor is Vegas will be right behind… I don’t really see New Orleans moving but that’s just me

 

one odd tidbit of info, Louisville built their arena in hopes of luring a team there or at least that was the rumor 

47 minutes ago, wpcc88 said:

I would be shocked if Lebron bought and moved a team here… however never say never, Seattle will be the next city to have a team though(again) and the rumor is Vegas will be right behind… I don’t really see New Orleans moving but that’s just me

 

one odd tidbit of info, Louisville built their arena in hopes of luring a team there or at least that was the rumor 

I could see an NBA team working in Louisville too. 
 

I really do think that, if Cbus ever gets a team in one of the “Big Three” leagues, it would be an NBA team. Unless, of course, one of the other C’s teams were to move here, which I don’t see happening any time soon. 

1 hour ago, wpcc88 said:

I would be shocked if Lebron bought and moved a team here… however never say never, Seattle will be the next city to have a team though(again) and the rumor is Vegas will be right behind… I don’t really see New Orleans moving but that’s just me

 

one odd tidbit of info, Louisville built their arena in hopes of luring a team there or at least that was the rumor 

Seattle and Las Vegas are absolutely the two gaps in the NBA market right now, and Seattle was home to a team for a while. If there is a team moving or a new expansion team, it'll almost certainly be one of these two cities.

 

I'm all aboard the Columbus NBA team pipe dream train though!