9 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

The location of 3 downtown public restrooms in the public right away appear to be going in at long and high, broad and 3rd and then at the main Cota building. Hopefully these are the first of many. 

Are those already up, or are these renderings?

 

Glad they’re still going through with the public restrooms; I was beginning to think the plan had fallen to the wayside. 

2 minutes ago, amped91 said:

Are those already up, or are these renderings?

 

Glad they’re still going through with the public restrooms; I was beginning to think the plan had fallen to the wayside. 

Renderings, this is for approval

Wouldn't the public reaction be hilarious if they were like the public urinals in Amsterdam?

 

That said, the self cleaning units in Paris were cool and were for both women and men.

21 minutes ago, Pablo said:

Wouldn't the public reaction be hilarious if they were like the public urinals in Amsterdam?

 

That said, the self cleaning units in Paris were cool and were for both women and men.

I would rather poop or pee my pants thank you very much. 

Downtown Columbus planning discussion here: https://forum.urbanohio.com/topic/17503-columbus-downtown-strategic-plan/

^i would say right now there’s a pretty good mix of tall and/or dense (Peninsula, Continental) and shorter and/or less dense (Topiary Park Crossing, Library Park) either under construction or proposed. 
 

Anyway, not sure where else to post this, so I’ll put it here:

 

Metro Development breaks ground on two apartment complexes near Easton, Blacklick
 

“Metro Development, one of Columbus' busiest multifamily developers, has broken ground on two projects this week on the east side of Columbus. 
 

The Residences at Eden Park, located on the west side of Cassady Avenue near Easton, and Lakeside Village, locaated on the southeast side of the city, will both have 264 units and a mix of one-, two- and three-bedroom units.

 

Both apartment developments will cost over $35 million, said Tre' Giller, CEO and president of Metro Development. 
 

Rents will range from about $1,000 to $1,200 at Eden Park and $1,000 to about $1,500 at Lakeside Village. Each complex will have a roughly 5,000-square-foot club house with a fitness center, game room and pool.”

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/07/22/metro-development-breaks-ground-on-two-apartments.html

2 minutes ago, amped91 said:

^i would say right now there’s a pretty good mix of tall and/or dense (Peninsula, Continental) and shorter and/or less dense (Topiary Park Crossing, Library Park) either under construction or proposed. 
 

Anyway, not sure where else to post this, so I’ll put it here:

 

Metro Development breaks ground on two apartment complexes near Easton, Blacklick
 

“Metro Development, one of Columbus' busiest multifamily developers, has broken ground on two projects this week on the east side of Columbus. 
 

The Residences at Eden Park, located on the west side of Cassady Avenue near Easton, and Lakeside Village, locaated on the southeast side of the city, will both have 264 units and a mix of one-, two- and three-bedroom units.

 

Both apartment developments will cost over $35 million, said Tre' Giller, CEO and president of Metro Development. 
 

Rents will range from about $1,000 to $1,200 at Eden Park and $1,000 to about $1,500 at Lakeside Village. Each complex will have a roughly 5,000-square-foot club house with a fitness center, game room and pool.”

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/07/22/metro-development-breaks-ground-on-two-apartments.html

Lol.  I just posted this and wasn't sure where to put it either!  

Rule: If you aren't sure where to post it, post it in this thread 😉.

Couple more of the freeway construction near Miranova.

 

 

Three outdoor public restrooms planned for downtown Columbus

 

Downtown Columbus is slated to get three public restrooms on high-traffic corners next summer.

 

The Downtown Commission will consider the restrooms at its Tuesday morning meeting.

 

The city and the Capital Crossroads Special Improvement District would commission the construction of the restrooms. The idea is to promote safety and cleanliness downtown, said Lisa Defendiefer, deputy director of operations for the district.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/07/26/loos-downtown.html

 

Also from last night’s city council meeting:

 

- 720 E Long approved

- 1235 Oak approved

- 200 E 5th tabled indefinitely at the request of Lykens

- 459 E Livingston approved

1 hour ago, amped91 said:

Also from last night’s city council meeting:

 

- 720 E Long approved

- 1235 Oak approved

- 200 E 5th tabled indefinitely at the request of Lykens

- 459 E Livingston approved

Weird, wonder why 200 e 5th was tabled. Hopefully they are changing it and planning on going bigger. 

I think I've developed arthritis over the past couple days from "thumbs upping" all these photo posts from our two resident photographers.

New Public Restrooms Approved for Downtown

 

The Downtown Commission this morning approved a plan to add public, outdoor restroom facilities to three different locations.

 

The new pre-fabricated restrooms will be placed at highly-visible locations that are also close to bus stops – one next door to COTA headquarters, at 33 N. High St., another near the corner of High and Long Street, and a third facility at the intersection of Broad Street and Fourth Street.

 

Lisa Defendiefer, deputy director of operations for the Capital Crossroads and Discovery Special Improvement Districts, explained to the commission that the only public restrooms currently available for use Downtown are at the main library on Grant Avenue and at Statehouse, which is “not easily accessible.”

 

More below:

https://columbusunderground.com/new-public-restrooms-approved-for-downtown-bw1/

 

On 7/21/2022 at 2:39 PM, Pablo said:

Wouldn't the public reaction be hilarious if they were like the public urinals in Amsterdam?

 

That said, the self cleaning units in Paris were cool and were for both women and men.

I don't think that is Amsterdam. The permanent ones in Amsterdam have barriers that go up above head height, obstructing faces. The temporary/event ones have side barriers and have the "user" facing away from the street/sidewalk.

 

And aside from that, the architecture and street design in your photo doesn't look like Amsterdam, and I am pretty familiar with the city. I would guess it is in France, but that's just a guess.

*Spits out drink*  THE ROBUU is alive!!!

 

And for the record, that photo isn't in France either, architecturally.  Looks like Belgium (Kriek in the background and the Belgian yield sign are giveaways).  So Benelux, at least.

 

I know, random in the Columbus Random thread.

 

It's in Ghent, Belgium. You all can stop worrying about it now. Belgium only gained independence from the Netherlands in 1831 so you can understand my confusion. If you check out streetview in this location you will find a very pleasant pedestrian area, plenty of access to public transportation. I've been reading a lot about Strong Towns and this area of Ghent meets so many of their goals. 

 

On 7/27/2022 at 10:27 AM, ColDayMan said:

Lisa Defendiefer, deputy director of operations for the Capital Crossroads and Discovery Special Improvement Districts, explained to the commission that the only public restrooms currently available for use Downtown are at the main library on Grant Avenue and at Statehouse, which is “not easily accessible

Sounds like Lisa did a good job defending the proposal given the project's approval.

I was out on Alum Creek Dr earlier so i used the chance to check the progress of the Rickenbacker Pkwy extension to the east.

Currently it dead ends at Heartland Ct (just past 762) but that shouldn't be the case too much longer.

 

As you can see here, this phase looks to be moving towards completion at a nice pace.

 

 

 

The list of applicants for the second round of TMUD tax credits, which will be awarded early next year, is out. Notably, there’s no mention of Peninsula Phase Two here. Wonder what’s going on with that?

 

Here are the 11 local projects competing for 'transformational' state tax credits

 

“Here are the local projects that applied, all but one of which were also submitted in the first round of the program: 

 

The one new project submitted was Thrive Cos.' Grandview Crossing. The developer is seeking $6.3 million in tax credits for the project. 

 

Thrive Cos. also submitted for a second time its project redeveloping the former Mount Carmel West site in Franklinton. This time it's applying for a $6 million tax credit. 

 

The development team behind the Merchant Building, the North Market tower redevelopment, is seeking $34 million in tax credits. Rockbridge and Edward Cos. had also submitted the project in the first round. 

 

The development team behind the Arlington Gateway project applied for a $3.8 million tax credit. Continental Real Estate, Arcadia Development and Kohr Royer Griffith Inc. also submitted this project in the first round of the program. 

 

Local developers Casto, the Kelley Cos. and the Robert Weiler Co. applied for a $13 million tax credit for the Kroger Bakery project. This project was also submitted in the first round. 

 

Bernstein Co., owner of the Continental Centre downtown, resubmitted the project asking for about $6.7 million in tax credits. 

 

Stage Capital Partners LLC and McCabe Cos. applied a second time for a $9.3 million tax credit for the Front & Fulton project at the former L. Hoster Brewing Co. building.

 

Arcadia Development applied a second time for a $6.9 million tax credit for the Golden Bear redevelopment in Upper Arlington.

 

DRP Worthington LP applied for a $6.2 tax credit for the High North redevelopment of the Shops at Worthington Place. This is the second time this project has been submitted. 

 

NP Limited Partnership applied for a $12.3 million credit for The Galaxy at Polaris mixed-use project. 

 

Indus Hotels applied for a $2.5 million credit for a new Tru Hotel by Hilton in Delaware. The developer also submitted an application for this project in the first round.”

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/07/31/ohio-transformational-mixed-use-tax-credits.html

16 hours ago, CbusOrBust said:

I was out on Alum Creek Dr earlier so i used the chance to check the progress of the Rickenbacker Pkwy extension to the east.

Currently it dead ends at Heartland Ct (just past 762) but that shouldn't be the case too much longer.

 

As you can see here, this phase looks to be moving towards completion at a nice pace.

 

 

 

 

This is the part that goes through the former Links at Rickenbacker golf course. There may be another extension coming that curves to the left to serve the 6 or so warehouses slated to be constructed on the land that the FAA just opened up for development SE of the runway.

 

There are 2-3 buildings under construction to the right that this extension will serve.

Edited July 31, 20222 yr by GCrites80s

4 hours ago, amped91 said:

Notably, there’s no mention of Peninsula Phase Two here. Wonder what’s going on with that?

I was about to comment this exact thing.  I was disappointed that it wasn't on the list and hope it doesn't meant that it's dead.

1 hour ago, TH3BUDDHA said:

I was about to comment this exact thing.  I was disappointed that it wasn't on the list and hope it doesn't meant that it's dead.

Yeah, same here. I’m okay if they decide to build smaller here and save height for future phases, but I don’t want the momentum over there to completely stop either. I wonder if they had a financial backer exit, or if they are trying to rework this phase and weren’t able to solidify plans in time to submit for TMUD? I can’t imagine they’re happy with how the office space has been leasing so far, so maybe trying to figure out how to adjust for phase two?

1 hour ago, amped91 said:

Yeah, same here. I’m okay if they decide to build smaller here and save height for future phases, but I don’t want the momentum over there to completely stop either. I wonder if they had a financial backer exit, or if they are trying to rework this phase and weren’t able to solidify plans in time to submit for TMUD? I can’t imagine they’re happy with how the office space has been leasing so far, so maybe trying to figure out how to adjust for phase two?

I thought I remember seeing the office is well leased, am I not remembering that right? 

34 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

I thought I remember seeing the office is well leased, am I not remembering that right? 

An article from July 15 has it at less than 1/3 leased. 
 

“Daimler's office building is 31% pre-leased, with consulting firm Deloitte, staffing company Insight Global and engineering firm Burgess & Niple as its first three tenants. Deloitte and Insight Global will be on the eighth floor. Burgess & Niple have the entire seventh floor and half of the sixth floor.”

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/07/15/scioto-peninsula-office-building.html

Not exactly blockbuster numbers…

9 minutes ago, amped91 said:

An article from July 15 has it at less than 1/3 leased. 
 

“Daimler's office building is 31% pre-leased, with consulting firm Deloitte, staffing company Insight Global and engineering firm Burgess & Niple as its first three tenants. Deloitte and Insight Global will be on the eighth floor. Burgess & Niple have the entire seventh floor and half of the sixth floor.”

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/07/15/scioto-peninsula-office-building.html

Not exactly blockbuster numbers…

Ah yeah, that probably isn’t great. I feel like they should have shifted gears and made it a office/residential from the start. 

 

Quarry Trails

 

 

 

 

 

Columbus developer Thrive Cos. donates $1M to new Rapid 5 nonprofit

 

Dr. Amy Acton, CEO of Rapid 5, said the donation from Thrive Cos. will allow the organization to go from vision to reality. 

“This incredibly generous donation underscores our community’s commitment to grow in an ecologically sustainable manner and catalyzes a once-in-a-generation opportunity to put nature at the heart of our lives,” Acton said in a press release.

From near where 315N begins:

 

 

 

Can't wait to see what this looks like in six months!

 

11 minutes ago, CbusOrBust said:

From near where 315N begins:

 

Can't wait to see what this looks like in six months!

 

I can’t wait for it to be done in six years! 😂

I didn’t see any new dev news, but the CBF cover story on Connect’s rehab work on projects like the Municipal Light Plant and the East Market was still an interesting read. 
 

THE PATRON SAINT OF LOST CAUSES
 

“Today, the Municipal Light Plant has about a dozen office tenants and is seen by tens of thousands of people who attend Columbus Crew games.
 

It’s indicative of DeHays, who has created a reputation for finding buildings no one wants in areas other developers avoid.

 

“(DeHays) is an important contributor to the fabric of the city,” Black said.”

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/08/04/brad-dehays-columbus-developer-historic-projects.html

I’ve mentioned this on here before but I find it slightly concerning that there aren’t any large scale hotel (only hotel) projects in any stage of the development process. Obviously there are multi-use projects that we all know about but I’d really like to see a big name hotel take a chance here like a Ritz, Intercontinental, The W, Omni, St Regis, Wyndham, The Peninsula, Kimpton, Waldorf Astoria, etc. I know we have the Junto coming to the Scioto Peninsula and that’s exciting but I feel like hotels are one of the best opportunities we have at the moment for tall projects.

1 minute ago, 614love said:

I’ve mentioned this on here before but I find it slightly concerning that there aren’t any large scale hotel (only hotel) projects in any stage of the development process. Obviously there are multi-use projects that we all know about but I’d really like to see a big name hotel take a chance here like a Ritz, Intercontinental, The W, Omni, St Regis, Wyndham, The Peninsula, Kimpton, Waldorf Astoria, etc. I know we have the Junto coming to the Scioto Peninsula and that’s exciting but I feel like hotels are one of the best opportunities we have at the moment for tall projects.

As I read this I'm listening to a concert held at the Ritz in Paris! I think that'd be amazing - yes the Hilton is cool but we need some big names to build a showstopper tower. Something taller and bolder than the Hilton. Though it is an interesting building, we can do better.

6 minutes ago, 614love said:

I’ve mentioned this on here before but I find it slightly concerning that there aren’t any large scale hotel (only hotel) projects in any stage of the development process. Obviously there are multi-use projects that we all know about but I’d really like to see a big name hotel take a chance here like a Ritz, Intercontinental, The W, Omni, St Regis, Wyndham, The Peninsula, Kimpton, Waldorf Astoria, etc. I know we have the Junto coming to the Scioto Peninsula and that’s exciting but I feel like hotels are one of the best opportunities we have at the moment for tall projects.

I think it’s because at the moment, Columbus isn’t a huge tourist destination. Columbus is a great place to live, but wouldn’t be a crazy fun vacation, in my opinion. If that changes and Columbus continues to bring in attractions and new museums, it could change and those hotels may think about building. 
 

 

9 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

I think it’s because at the moment, Columbus isn’t a huge tourist destination. Columbus is a great place to live, but wouldn’t be a crazy fun vacation, in my opinion. If that changes and Columbus continues to bring in attractions and new museums, it could change and those hotels may think about building. 
 

 

Or events. I personally don't want something like a Planet Oasis. I'd rather have events in the downtown core, along with shopping/dining/vendor experiences during breaks in the event/downtime and go for that approach. We need a corridor to focus on. We're kinda doing that with High Street and Nationwide Blvd, but both of those roads aren't catering to the experience in the right way. We need to get bigger sidewalks, bring dining on the street, show more life and people, have more gathering plazas/patios, create interesting storefronts, engaging digital messageboards, do something interesting in front of the convention center, etc. We need to push for a more urban feel too - buildings 10-12 stories min in this area may be a good place to start. 

Edited August 5, 20222 yr by columbus17

6 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

I think it’s because at the moment, Columbus isn’t a huge tourist destination. Columbus is a great place to live, but wouldn’t be a crazy fun vacation, in my opinion. If that changes and Columbus continues to bring in attractions and new museums, it could change and those hotels may think about building. 
 

 

I think you hit it on the head. I think it was just recently Experience Columbus released tourism data showing day visitors are actually up but overnight visitors are still way down from pre-pandemic. Mostly related to business travel still being depressed. Hopefully as events keep coming back to the convention center and as Intel and others set up camp here, we’ll see increase in overnight travel, leading to demand for another hotel tower. 

Just now, amped91 said:

I think you hit it on the head. I think it was just recently Experience Columbus released tourism data showing day visitors are actually up but overnight visitors are still way down from pre-pandemic. Mostly related to business travel still being depressed. Hopefully as events keep coming back to the convention center and as Intel and others set up camp here, we’ll see increase in overnight travel, leading to demand for another hotel tower. 

I'm hoping with the fall sports season the 3 stadiums take off this year and also aid in that.

Really the only place that’s happening is Nashville & Austin(kind of)… they have tourism and weather… Columbus has neither… The Arnold is really the only non-regional driver of tourism to Cbus… yes you can say OSU football but that’s kind of moot

There's a nice profile of Brad DeHays and Connect Realty (Power plant, East Market) in Business First. This quote makes me wonder if the old guard in Columbus is really preventing downtown from flourishing. I've always maintained that what Cbus needs is new and/or out of town developers to rattle the multi-generational local developers to get them off their butts.

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“Downtown at the time was primarily owned by several families and large-scale developers,” DeHays said. “And it was very difficult to acquire property down there.”

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/08/04/brad-dehays-columbus-developer-historic-projects.html

1 hour ago, Pablo said:

There's a nice profile of Brad DeHays and Connect Realty (Power plant, East Market) in Business First. This quote makes me wonder if the old guard in Columbus is really preventing downtown from flourishing. I've always maintained that what Cbus needs is new and/or out of town developers to rattle the multi-generational local developers to get them off their butts.

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/08/04/brad-dehays-columbus-developer-historic-projects.html

I’m convinced that the old money in Columbus is holding back good development Downtown. NRI owns a ton of parking lots and just sits on them. The city needs to start having mandates that companies that own a lot of parking have to either develop or sell. 

1 hour ago, VintageLife said:

I’m convinced that the old money in Columbus is holding back good development Downtown. NRI owns a ton of parking lots and just sits on them. The city needs to start having mandates that companies that own a lot of parking have to either develop or sell. 

The Schottensteins specifically and other old money through shells and direct ownership are the ones you should be concerned with regarding undeveloped lots. NRI has done more than anyone to redevelop downtown. Granted we may not all agree with their choices but the density in the AD is all thanks to them and them only.

It's 100% accurate. It's nice to want out of town developers but if, let's use Schottenstien as an example, isn't willing to give up the lots they have owned for Millenial Tower since 1985/1989, then the point is moot. Parking lots that earn insane passive income for families that have owned them since the 70s and 80s etc and long paid them off and pay minimal taxes and so on.

 

NRI also owns a bunch of land with no plans in Franklinton.  So yes, we might thank them for the AD, we should also be critical of their actions in Franklinton, the old Marconi Garage, Parking lots on Spring St etc.  And recognize that yes, they might in fact be impeding progress that other developers might have moved on. 

 

But thats where the city is going to have to figure out how to get land owners to give up these properties by making it less desirable to let them sit empty and/or incentivizing selling them, NRI included. 

Edited August 8, 20222 yr by DTCL11

4 hours ago, VintageLife said:

I’m convinced that the old money in Columbus is holding back good development Downtown. NRI owns a ton of parking lots and just sits on them. The city needs to start having mandates that companies that own a lot of parking have to either develop or sell. 

Something like that definitely needs to happen. There’s no reason, when the region has an affordable  housing crisis, for landowners to refuse to develop empty parking lots for decades. 
 

I think part of the new Downtown Strategic Plan is to incentivize development of those lots, but I don’t believe they’ve provided any specific incentives yet. 

29 minutes ago, amped91 said:

Something like that definitely needs to happen. There’s no reason, when the region has an affordable  housing crisis, for landowners to refuse to develop empty parking lots for decades. 
 

I think part of the new Downtown Strategic Plan is to incentivize development of those lots, but I don’t believe they’ve provided any specific incentives yet. 

Those incentives should be, build on your parking lot, sell it or pay a huge tax for having it. 

3 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

It's 100% accurate. It's nice to want out of town developers but if, let's use Schottenstien as an example, isn't willing to give up the lots they have owned for Millenial Tower since 1985/1989, then the point is moot. Parking lots that earn insane passive income for families that have owned them since the 70s and 80s etc and long paid them off and pay minimal taxes and so on.

 

NRI also owns a bunch of land with no plans in Franklinton.  So yes, we might thank them for the AD, we should also be critical of their actions in Franklinton, the old Marconi Garage, Parking lots on Spring St etc.  And recognize that yes, they might in fact be impeding progress that other developers might have moved on. 

 

But thats where the city is going to have to figure out how to get land owners to give up these properties by making it less desirable to let them sit empty and/or incentivizing selling them, NRI included. 

See but that’s not even 100% accurate… Casto, Kaufman and others(including out of towners) have all built in Franklinton. You can’t fault NRI just because they had the capital to risk buying property in the area before the others were able to do so. We don’t know that they weren’t in talks with Mt Carmel to redevelop that are before they bolted for the burbs. Maybe that’s why NRI sat on the old Graham Ford.

Should they get their sh*t together and get something going? Yes.

 

I know they have that Marconi Garage and a little bit of undeveloped land on W Spring but once the garage is built for the stadium I’d be hard pressed to believe they will be underutilized much longer. Things take time, funding takes time, approvals, designs, supply takes time. Be patient grasshopper!

1 hour ago, VintageLife said:

Those incentives should be, build on your parking lot, sell it or pay a huge tax for having it. 

Good luck with that, Ginther knows where his bread is buttered. 

This area of downtown hurts my eyes

 

Edited August 9, 20222 yr by 614love

3 hours ago, wpcc88 said:

See but that’s not even 100% accurate… Casto, Kaufman and others(including out of towners) have all built in Franklinton. You can’t fault NRI just because they had the capital to risk buying property in the area before the others were able to do so. We don’t know that they weren’t in talks with Mt Carmel to redevelop that are before they bolted for the burbs. Maybe that’s why NRI sat on the old Graham Ford.

Should they get their sh*t together and get something going? Yes.

 

I know they have that Marconi Garage and a little bit of undeveloped land on W Spring but once the garage is built for the stadium I’d be hard pressed to believe they will be underutilized much longer. Things take time, funding takes time, approvals, designs, supply takes time. Be patient grasshopper!

 

Things take time, absolutely. But there's a difference in things taking time and certain business decisions hampering progress. Let NRI focus on actually finishing the AD and GY, and maybe Marconi. 

 

We can't fault NRI for having the capital to buy up prime real estate land and sit on it before others but we can fault Schottenstein... because others have been able to build around there proves NRI isn't impeding anything but Schottenstein and parking companies are... make it make sense. Either you're sitting on land too long doing nothing with it or not. Clearly my expectation is 5 years is too long for prime real estate but you'll draw the line at closer to 20 years. For me, there's no exceptions for NRI because others have managed to build or because they have other projects or that they have done so much already for the AD and GY. For you, you generally come to defend the businesses, even if there is a cost to the community or progress.

 

As of now, it's going on 8 years since NW acquired Byers and 7 for Marconi. So we say sitting on land 10+ years is ok, because it's NRI. While other developers are devoping any land they can get their hands on relatively quickly. If NRI can sell more properties under pressure from city ordinances and taxes for stagnant land, we would likely have had proposals started and moving forward by now. They did it with Kaufman and we've seen the benefits. But they still hold a SIGNIFICANT portion of East Franklinton. NRI owns 70% or more of the vacant land in East Franklinton. Again, other developers ARE building... NRI is not and NRI is responsible for much of the vast open spaces. 

 

NRI still has land to utilitize in Grandview Yard and Arena District but you're confident that Marconi, Spring, and Franklinton are surely next up, right? Do we think they will move with the same haste others are or continue on the slow and conservative pace they are known for? I would certainly guess that they'll prioritize Franklinton based on how hot that area is, but then how long do we say it's OK Marconi and Spring sit because, 'they're focused on Franklinton right now, they'll get to it.'  

 

DeHays is not the first developer to comment on how hard it is to acquire land so there is clearly demand that would likely allow more development. I would rather see more simultaneous projects across a larger variety of developers than this incessant cascade of 'well, once this project wraps up, then they can focus on the next' among a handful of developers etc and have more significant infill before we are too old to enjoy it anyway. Much like any semblance of a proper urban transit and bike system, with each passing year of 'it just takes time' we come to realize that we will be lucky if our grandchildren get to reap the benefits in their own prime. 

 

For reference, NRI has owned more land in Franklinton than Kaufman, much of it for a longer amount of time. Kaufman is keeping pace in Gravity alone in terms of units and holding its own for commercial space. In a period of roughly 8 years (2016-2024), Kaufmann will bring nearly 1100 units online for Gravity 1.0-3.0, and IBEW. Unless NRI changes much, I don't think they come close in terms of units for the same time period, and certainly not density and walkability. A true sense of that term.

 

If NRI doesn't move on it soon, it's time to stop giving them the benefit of the doubt. If they announce anything in the next 6 months, this is moot. If they dont at least have proposals in the pipeline, they are sitting in the way of progress and it's time to stop being dismissive of them under 'they're working on a parking garage so surely it makes sense they would have to wait to start an approval process for some of these other high profile sites.'  You're talking about letting NRI have another 10+ years as they continue to cascade potentially leaving this nice hole in Franklinton While still likely leaving holes in GY and AD..

 

This is what NRI still owns in Franklinton. If they didn't own this much property, in the core of this neighborhood, perhaps it wouldn't be such a big deal. But unless they are going to get moving and keep pace with Gravity, the Peninsula, River & Rich, etc, they are absolutely standing in the way if others can. 

how far along is the new apt building on broad street downtown i saw that was in development via columbus underground? any pics?

35 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

how far along is the new apt building on broad street downtown i saw that was in development via columbus underground? any pics?

which one?