From cleveland.com

 

Downtown Cleveland to get new hotel

Posted by Henry J. Gomez June 15, 2007 14:20PM

 

After a decade of scrapped plans and false starts, a hotel finally could open in an abandoned downtown Cleveland office building.

 

Staybridge Suites, part of the InterContinental Hotels Group, plans to refashion historic property along Rockwell Avenue, between East Sixth and East Ninth Streets, into 126 suites. Developers have been eyeballing the land for condos or a hotel since the late 1990s.

 

More at cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com

edit: MayDay beat me by 14 seconds.

i've always f-ing loved that building.

 

Great news.

OK..i'm happy for the news, but can we get any thing other than a 2-star hotel built? this is a sign that developers see our tourist economy improving.  

 

Sorry to be "debbie downer" on this.

good news about hotel.

 

does anyone know what is beling built along the shoreway after the turn when heading east into dowtown (on the south side of the shoreway)?

 

there is a cinderblock foundation coming out of the old grass/tree hillside.

OK..i'm happy for the news, but can we get any thing other than a 2-star hotel built? this is a sign that developers see our tourist economy improving. 

 

Sorry to be "debbie downer" on this.

 

I don't associate staybridge with tourism...........that's just me.

"We like Cleveland because of how many companies are in that downtown area

 

cool

^It clearly meets a need, that is why somebody is risking his $$$ to meet the need.  Of course a Four Seasons would be nice.  Would you care to look into investing?

 

Does not look like is being built to address a "tourist" need.  Seems as though it will cater to the guy (or gal) who has a 6-7 week project in Cleveland.

It would also be a great place for those looking to relocate here but aren't sure yet where they want to put down some roots. How often has someone posted a relocation inquiry here at UrbanOhioan and we've suggested that they rent first? This might be a nice "in-between" option.

another gut feeling on staybridge and other "extended stay" places.

 

For most relocation employees, they get thrown where? Brook park? Chagrin and Richmond? This will expose those who will be actively looking for permanent residence to downtown immediately.

 

yes i realize not everyone who stays at an extended stay hotel is permanently relocating, but just tossing out this tiny amount of further positive spin.

^It clearly meets a need, that is why somebody is risking his $$$ to meet the need.  Of course a Four Seasons would be nice.  Would you care to look into investing?

 

Does not look like is being built to address a "tourist" need.  Seems as though it will cater to the guy (or gal) who has a 6-7 week project in Cleveland.

 

I wouldn't mind investing, so what is your point of asking that?

 

I thought serious about buying an apartment here when this building was first announced it would go condo, I think I still have the agents name and one or two floor plans.  This building would have made a great condo development.

 

Its a gorgeous property and has old world, old school fabulous character and charm.  Yes, I would love to see a Peninsula, a Drake, a St. Regis, a Loews or Mandarin Oriental at this property as it has a "boutique" feel and its proximity to the Mall, Euclid Ave, Tower City and the Galleria could not be better.

 

For my own selfish reasons I don't like it as a 2 star property, but it is what it is!  As I stated before, I'm happy and I hope this is a successful project.  It means construction jobs, employees, taxes money flowing into the city, another business to market in downtown cleveland and deducts square footage from the total amount of vacant/abandoned buildings in downtown, etc., etc., etc..

^It clearly meets a need, that is why somebody is risking his $$$ to meet the need.  Of course a Four Seasons would be nice.  Would you care to look into investing?

 

Does not look like is being built to address a "tourist" need.  Seems as though it will cater to the guy (or gal) who has a 6-7 week project in Cleveland.

 

And over the next few years there are going to many projects that will require this type of temporary housing for construction type workers.

How many extended stays will be built once the innerbelt and west shoreway projects start?

 

 

Since you asked...my point is that there is clearly a need for such a hotel in Cleveland or the people fronting it would not be putting up the $$$.  They or anybody else do not see the need for a Four Seasons.  These are smart people.  They do marketing studies before risking their hard earned cash (at least I hope they do).  If somebody thought they would make a profit with an upscale hotel downtown, simple economic principles would suggest that one would be built.  I guess my real point is that we very easily spend other peoples millions on this board when we might have second thoughts if it was our own $$$.

How many millions of your can we spend?

I have a small list.

:-D

That place looks too nice for construction workers. Construction workers get dirty. I know, I do it.  :-D

 

Personally, I would sh*t if I found out my company was putting me up at a place like that. Wow.

That whole building is vacant? WTF!?

Since you asked...my point is that there is clearly a need for such a hotel in Cleveland or the people fronting it would not be putting up the $$$.  They or anybody else do not see the need for a Four Seasons.  These are smart people.  They do marketing studies before risking their hard earned cash (at least I hope they do).  If somebody thought they would make a profit with an upscale hotel downtown, simple economic principles would suggest that one would be built.  I guess my real point is that we very easily spend other peoples millions on this board when we might have second thoughts if it was our own $$$.

 

The problem I see with your logic is that it seems to reduce to "if it was worth doing, it would have been done already", in which case everything would be static.  Every well thought out, researched idea starts with someone saying, "What if we _____?".

^My point is very logical.  It is just that many people on this board live in la la land.

 

Further, my point is that the guy who wants to do the Four Seasons already has asked the question "What if we___" and the answer was no.  Let's not criticize him because he reached that conclusion (again it is his $$) and whine that we are getting something less from the guy who asked "what if we__" and decided a Staybridge rather than a Four Seasons makes economic sense for that location in Cleveland.  Pretty simple stuff.

 

Maybe it's time for a new thread?

 

 

Staybridge plans downtown hotel

Rockwell Ave. office building was once considered for condos

Saturday, June 16, 2007

Henry J. Gomez

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

After a decade of scrapped plans and false starts, a hotel finally could open in an abandoned downtown Cleveland office building.

 

Staybridge Suites, part of the InterContinental Hotels Group, plans to refashion historic property along Rockwell Avenue, between East Sixth and East Ninth streets, into 126 suites. Developers have been eyeballing the land for condos or a hotel since the late 1990s.

 

Dan Henretty, InterContinental's regional director of franchise sales, said construction should start by year's end with a 2009 opening in mind. Staybridge, with more than 100 locations in the Americas, caters to business travelers on extended stays - five days or more. Each suite will have a full kitchen...

 

more at: http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2007/06/downtown_cleveland_to_get_new.html

I'm a little disappointed too. I feel the property should have been used something for more upscale. We already have a couple extended stay hotels downtown. I see the property suitable for a Westin more than anything.

 

By the way, what is going on to the site just north of the future Staybridge and next to the federal building? Its a good size footprint and it looks like they are prepping the site for construction.

I guess I also agree MTS and Vulpster.  Although good something is happening with it, the building seems too cool for what it would become.   Would have been a great building for something more boutique. 

 

There's always the School Board building across the street! 

(Im sure MTS has the perfect hotel for that property)  

Although I wish it were going to be a boutique hotel, I still think this is a great investment in the downtown Cleveland area.  I could only find one other Staybridge Suites in a downtown and it is in a historic district in Savannah.  Cleveland is already one of only two cities in the US to have two of their flagship InterContinental properties (the other is Miami, and San Francisco will have two next year).  We already have a Crowne Plaza (although not the best Crowne Plaza I've seen), a Holiday Inn Select, and a Holiday Inn Express downtown.  It makes sense from a branding standpoint to have a suite/extended stay option available to those who either need to be downtown, or don't have $$$$ to stay at the IC Suites by the Clinic.

 

I don't understand why Starwood is so poorly represented in Northeast Ohio - we have only the dumpy Sheraton Airport and another on the east side - no Four Points, Westin, or W anywhere in Cleveland?  No downtown properties at all? Step up.

there's a point where buildings are cool but they sit vacant for years, that anything is an improvement.

 

baby steps.

Staybridge plans downtown hotel

 

Rockwell Ave. office building was once considered for condos

 

Saturday, June 16, 2007

Henry J. Gomez

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

After a decade of scrapped plans and false starts, a hotel finally could open in an abandoned downtown Cleveland office building.

 

more at: http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2007/06/downtown_cleveland_to_get_new.html

yeah too cool a shell for that, but overall its good news.

 

anything to remake an empty building and the bonus is it will get more people downtown.

There is an 8-story Staybridge Suites in McLean, Va. It mostly houses workers dealing with the Federal Highway Administration and the CIA which are few miles away.

 

It's a very nice place. Much nicer than say, your typical Residence Inn used for the same purposes. Very nice lobby and it has a few services beyond most mid-priced hotels. I know it's not a St. Regis...but I it's definitely on the upper scale of long stay business hotels. I think it's a very good sign, It shows that d'town Cleveland isn't nearly as 'comatose' as some people think.

By the way, what is going on to the site just north of the future Staybridge and next to the federal building? Its a good size footprint and it looks like they are prepping the site for construction.

 

If you are speaking of the site directly adjacent to the Celebrezze building (on Lakeside and East 6th), that for an "<a href="http://www.crainscleveland.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061019/FREE/61019006/1008/FREE&Profile=1008">urban forest</a>" that will take the place of the plaza that was previously on the site.  It will remain Federal property.

I would love to have a high end department store in there.

 

But then again we have leechwood place,and crocker full of shit park.

 

 

Hey perhaps we can get a tiffanny's down in the steelyards.

 

With so many doctors and lawyers you would think cleveland would have a garmet district.

 

:mrgreen:

I would love to have a high end department store in there.

 

But then again we have leechwood place,and crocker full of shit park.

 

 

Hey perhaps we can get a tiffanny's down in the steelyards.

 

With so many doctors and lawyers you would think cleveland would have a garmet district.

 

:mrgreen:

 

Ummm...I can't even find the words to respond to this one and im a shopaholic.

I'm not doing handsprings about this, but it's certainly better than the derilect building sitting there now.  The location isn't my ideal for a new hotel even though, of course, its close to the current convention center.  I just don't understand why we can't seem to build a new hotel somewhere downtown, even if its not the mega-hotel we need (absent being attached to some new or rejuvinated convention center)..

 

... and then when we do build a ground-up nice new major hotel, like the Hilton Garden Inn, we foolishly stick it back-avenue Carnegie near a bunch of freeway exits away from the hubs of downtown foot traffic.

I'm not doing handsprings about this, but it's certainly better than the derilect building sitting there now.  The location isn't my ideal for a new hotel even though, of course, its close to the current convention center.  I just don't understand why we can't seem to build a new hotel somewhere downtown, even if its not the mega-hotel we need (absent being attached to some new or rejuvinated convention center)..

 

... and then when we do build a ground-up nice new major hotel, like the Hilton Garden Inn, we foolishly stick it back-avenue Carnegie near a bunch of freeway exits away from the hubs of downtown foot traffic.

 

Dude its in a perfect location!  What are you talking about?

 

What do you mean "we foolishly stick it back-avenue Carnegie near a bunch of freeway exits away from the hubs of downtown foot traffic."

 

Come on already - how do you know the developer/owner/franchisee didn't want that location to begin with?  I agree its not what I would call a prime location, but it is a solid hotel that gets good marks.

^Plus it is connected to a brand spanking new conference center in the building next door.

 

 

I think this is a great place for the hotel.

I think the Board of Education building would be an even greater place for a hotel

 

... and then when we do build a ground-up nice new major hotel, like the Hilton Garden Inn, we foolishly stick it back-avenue Carnegie near a bunch of freeway exits away from the hubs of downtown foot traffic.

 

I don't see how "we" foolishly did anything.

I see the next new construction hotel as part of a mixed-use tower on the Jacobs lot next to Public Square.  How's that for optimism?  I suppose if the convention center really does get built off the back of Tower City, that we'll see something either in that vacinity or somewhere along Huron...next to the Courthouse, perhaps?  There are plenty of lots over there around Jacobs Field/Q and in the other direction, towards the WHD. 

That was the original plan for Ameritrust - had it been built, we would have had a 400+ room Hyatt. When that was canceled, they opted for the Arcade.

I see the next new construction hotel as part of a mixed-use tower on the Jacobs lot next to Public Square.  How's that for optimism?  I suppose if the convention center really does get built off the back of Tower City, that we'll see something either in that vacinity or somewhere along Huron...next to the Courthouse, perhaps?  There are plenty of lots over there around Jacobs Field/Q and in the other direction, towards the WHD.  

 

True as we were to have a Courtyard Marriott along Ontario and a second hotel in the "future" phase of TC.  I think that would have been a St. Regis, Westin (I think it was Westin, which is probably why they are a part of the new round of prelim. discussions) or a Loews hotel.  I forget, maybe the Loews was going to be built in the 5/3 building.

And don't forget the Doubletree on Lakeside at W. 6th!

^groan.

Dude its in a perfect location!  What are you talking about?

 

What do you mean "we foolishly stick it back-avenue Carnegie near a bunch of freeway exits away from the hubs of downtown foot traffic."

 

Come on already - how do you know the developer/owner/franchisee didn't want that location to begin with?  I agree its not what I would call a prime location, but it is a solid hotel that gets good marks.

 

MTS, I disagree Staybridge's hotel is a "perfect location".  It's not horrible and, as I said, I'd rather see the old Channel 3 building put to this use rather than sit there -- and it'll boost our downtown hotel room total, too (to over 4K).  But I'd rather have a hotel closer to, and more in position to contribute to, the existing nodes of activity we have downtown: Gateway, WHD or, to some degree, Public Sq, which is kinda sits btw but is really a little more Gateway.

 

As to Hilton Garden Inn, the fact it is a fine hotel (I never said it wasn't) underscores my point on both counts.  The location stinks, unless you want to drive in, walk across (catty corner) to the Jake for a Tribe game, then make a quick freeway getaway.  Yes, a developer threw this thing in an area that has little impact on areas we want to build on.  It typically was no doubt more expedient, and hence less expensive, for the developer.   I just wish that one of the few substantial, new ground-up hotels could have been better placed; maybe encouraged by 'leadership' to provide more synergy downtown where we need it, not hidden away at the far edge flush against the Inner Belt in a no-man's-land zone, that's all.

Well we'll have to disagree.  I cannot believe you're even writing this.  Its in the heart of downtown.  It smack dab in the middle of St. Clair and Superior.  Its 2-4 minute walk to Euclid.  Its just behind the East Ninth Banking corridor

 

Its a perfect location.  Granted I would like to see them add a tower and keep that base but that is my own selfish urban planning.

Well we'll have to disagree.  I cannot believe you're even writing this.  Its in the heart of downtown.  It smack dab in the middle of St. Clair and Superior.  Its 2-4 minute walk to Euclid.  Its just behind the East Ninth Banking corridor

 

Its a perfect location.  Granted I would like to see them add a tower and keep that base but that is my own selfish urban planning.

 

MTS, I know when I travel to a city, particularly one I'm unfamiliar with, I always choose the hotel with substantial restaurants, retail and foot traffic right outside my door.  Call me lazy (you'd be crazy to since I walk all over some of the largest downtowns in this country and overseas); but when it comes to where I lay my head, I want all the excitement at my door.  I don't want to have to walk even 2 or 3 blocks to get there.   I want that pulse right there.

 

You can't say that about the Channel 3/future Staybridge building.  While the Board of Ed across the street, is architecturally stately (like Public Hall and City Hall that frame the north end of the street), when can you tell me, aside from a large special event, like a Browns game, is there a lot of foot traffic on E. 6th.   After 5p and on weekends, absent a major event at the Convention Center, all those beautiful public buildings are shuddered.  And what foot traffic there is in the area tend to be sucked away by nearby streets where there is a modicum of retail like E. 9th and Superior – and both these corridors are light compared to Gateway/E. 4th and the WHD… What restaurants, for example, are right there adjacent to Staybridge, MTS?

 

Again, while I’m not saying the location stinks, it’s not bad.  But it’s anything but “perfect”.  Try the vacant lot at E. 4 & Prospect; or where the Double Tree failed at Lakeside & W. 6th.  Both those locations whip the Channel 3 building.  I’d even prefer Holiday Inn Lakeside which, although in an area devoid of foot-traffic/retail, it at least is (amazingly) the only hotel we have on the Lakefront w/ awesome views of the Lake and is closest to the Rock Hall – a fact Holiday Inn touts prominently in its literature.

 

"A Better Place" Carribean restaurant is right around the corner from this building.  It would be a couple blocks to anything else.

There is a tavern (forget the name) less then a block away.

There is a drugstore right behind it.

There are many restaurants less then two blocks away on East 6th... plus the local Republican Headquarters!!!

Don't forget the library across the street... the list can go on, and on.

Osborne Sr. repurchases East Ohio Gas Co. building

Posted by Michelle Jarboe/Plain Dealer Reporter April 14, 2009 18:03PM

Categories: Real Estate News Impact

 

Plain Dealer fileThe East Ohio Gas Company Building on East 6th St. in downtown Cleveland.

CLEVELAND -- Meet the new owner, same as the old owner.

 

Nearly seven years after he sold it for redevelopment, Richard Osborne Sr. has repurchased the East Ohio Gas Co. building in downtown Cleveland.

 

More at http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2009/04/richard_osborne_sr_repurchases.htmlRichard

Another hotel or condo! This is the kind of thing I'm anticipating as a result of the Mall location..

This should be a condo.  I seriously thought about buying here.

I could not find a thread on the following, but does anyone know what is happening with the old channel 3 building on West 6th Street. I knew at one time plans called for conversion into a hotel, but I have not heard anything on this in quite a while. I see this is the thread... But have not heard anything.

 

Thanks!

As you can see, I found the thread for you and combined your message with that thread.

 

Just the generous guy I am....

 

And now getting ready for the shitstorm of comments!

Where is MTS?

As you can see, I found the thread for you and combined your message with that thread.

 

Just the generous guy I am....

 

And now getting ready for the sh!tstorm of comments!

 

Hahahaha, a shit storm smiley.  That's awesome.  I too was wondering what became of MTS.

 

I'm assuming we haven't heard any more news on this building....