February 19, 200916 yr And to your question #2, I think the drivers are supposed to beep a button for each Upass they see. In my experience they do it about 75% of the time. But the Healthline drivers aren't supposed to have to look. I flash it when boarding from the righthand side at Adelbert (because I feel inclined to when I walk right past the driver), but there really isn't any reason for me to fight through people in the morning when I board from the left side just to get to the front of the bus to show the driver I have a UPass. And considering the Healthline serves CSU and Case, I'd think RTA would want to keep better track of us for their numbers. I want to make sure the numbers reported aren't deflated cause I want RTA to have continued success! I have similar concerns. I don't know how any of the healthline ridership is counted, since there aren't many discrete transactions involved.
February 19, 200916 yr Much of the automated announcement are for ADA purposes. That is a dynamic that will be tweaked as we progress. Regarding the U-Pass, do not worry, you ARE being counted.
February 19, 200916 yr Much of the automated announcement are for ADA purposes. That is a dynamic that will be tweaked as we progress. Regarding the U-Pass, do not worry, you ARE being counted. Ooo, do you have some super secret tracking chip implanted in my UPass?? ;)
February 19, 200916 yr RTA HEALTHLINE RIDERSHIP Last Year Ridership Gain This Year Percent Increase Nov. 2007 217,222 + 61,778 279,000 + 28 percent Dec. 2007 194,620 + 89,536 284,156 + 46 percent Jan. 2008 204,017 + 93,193 297,200 + 43 percent 1ST QUARTER RIDERSHIP UP 39 PERCENT
February 19, 200916 yr in all fairness, it better have an increase vs the previous year as it was still under construction, right?
February 19, 200916 yr ^Doubtful because the #6 was still operating. I still want to see how it stacks up against ridership from 2004 for the months of Nov, Dec, and Jan.
February 20, 200916 yr The first three months of HealthLine ridership averages out to 286,785 trips per month. If that pace continues over 12 months, that works out to 3,441,420 trips. In 2004, the #6's ridership was 2,941,560 trips. So the potential increase of 499,860 trips over 12 months represents an increase of 17 percent. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 20, 200916 yr HealthLine vehicles have on-board passengers counters, and on-board video cameras. SMILE!
February 20, 200916 yr HealthLine vehicles have on-board passengers counters, and on-board video cameras. SMILE! I saw the cameras, but I didn't know about the passenger counters. I'm glad I'm being counted :).
February 20, 200916 yr Yes, dear. You do count. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 20, 200916 yr HealthLine vehicles have on-board passengers counters, and on-board video cameras. SMILE! What exaclty is an "on-board" passenger counter?
February 25, 200916 yr The healthline buses do have digital crawl screens. They say what the recording says, which takes a while, which stinks if you just want to know what time it is. They also say the time and date, and I think they say something about Medical Mutual when the time comes to do that. ^They say Med Mutual at the E.9th St platform, Cleveland State U by the bookstore, Cle Clinic Foundation bw 89th and 105. Did UH not pony up the cash? They repeat the "please pay your fare..." at every stop. If you're taking the HL from E.19 to Adelbert, that can be quite a bit.
February 25, 200916 yr The healthline buses do have digital crawl screens. They say what the recording says, which takes a while, which stinks if you just want to know what time it is. They also say the time and date, and I think they say something about Medical Mutual when the time comes to do that. ^They say Med Mutual at the E.9th St platform, Cleveland State U by the bookstore, Cle Clinic Foundation bw 89th and 105. Did UH not pony up the cash? They repeat the "please pay your fare..." at every stop. If you're taking the HL from E.19 to Adelbert, that can be quite a bit. It says UH at the Adelbert (and Cornell I think) stations.
February 25, 200916 yr The healthline buses do have digital crawl screens. They say what the recording says, which takes a while, which stinks if you just want to know what time it is. They also say the time and date, and I think they say something about Medical Mutual when the time comes to do that. ^They say Med Mutual at the E.9th St platform, Cleveland State U by the bookstore, Cle Clinic Foundation bw 89th and 105. Did UH not pony up the cash? They repeat the "please pay your fare..." at every stop. If you're taking the HL from E.19 to Adelbert, that can be quite a bit. It says UH at the Adelbert (and Cornell I think) stations. The verbal announcements mentioned (Medical Mutual, CCF, CSU) are for station sponsorships, above and beyond the line's naming rights, which were paid for by the combination of the Clinic and UH.
February 26, 200916 yr APTA has published a colorful hard-back coffeetable-type photo book called "Public Transportation -- Leading the Way." FYI, page 37 contains a color photo of a HealthLine vehcle, taken by yours truly.
February 26, 200916 yr APTA has published a colorful hard-back coffeetable-type photo book called "Public Transportation -- Leading the Way." FYI, page 37 contains a color photo of a HealthLine vehcle, taken by yours truly. Nice!
March 5, 200916 yr I am seeking someone on this list who uses the HealthLine daily to get to work and back. Please contact me off-list at [email protected]. Thanks.
March 10, 200916 yr Does anyone know when the concrete planters are supposed to be installed along euclid from Public square to around E. 17th? I'm referring, of course, to the one that are supposed to resemble those installed last year around the Park Building. Thanks!
March 10, 200916 yr Does anyone know when the concrete planters are supposed to be installed along euclid from Public square to around E. 17th? I'm referring, of course, to the one that are supposed to resemble those installed last year around the Park Building. Thanks! checking
March 10, 200916 yr The artwork at the playhouse square station appears to be installed, for the most part. It consists of 4-5 large metal items that look sort of like stylized #7's or #1's, with light bulbs outlining each one. I can't say I understand it, but I can't wait to see it lit up. It looks good. Edit: The lights are on, they're red, and it looks awesome.
March 10, 200916 yr Do they somehow resemble legs kicking like in a chorus line? I think thats what I remember reading that the artist was trying to invoke.
March 11, 200916 yr ^ That is correct. I believe things are still being tested, so it may be premature to "kick up your heels."
March 11, 200916 yr Do they somehow resemble legs kicking like in a chorus line? I think thats what I remember reading that the artist was trying to invoke. Perhaps... that's not the first thing I thought of. I like it regardless of what it's meant to be. I'm basically 2 years old. I like lights and shiny things.
March 11, 200916 yr 327 we all like lights and shiny things, now if the lights move in a pattern some of us may drool on ourselves . . . I mean just stare for a long time
March 11, 200916 yr In fact, I like these so well I wish there were more such installations throughout the line. They look way better than dead plants, it is winter here for half the year, and metal work is a strong local theme.
March 11, 200916 yr I think CPA has some conceptual pictures up of these pieces: http://www.clevelandpublicart.org/projects/completed/euclid-corridor-transportation-project, but real-life pics would be much appreciated, too, if anyone feels up to it :)
March 11, 200916 yr In fact, I like these so well I wish there were more such installations throughout the line. They look way better than dead plants, it is winter here for half the year, and metal work is a strong local theme. It is not winter here for half the year! ::) Ugh, that pisses me off when people say that.
March 11, 200916 yr Nov-Dec-Jan-Feb-Mar-Apr... I can remember recent snow storms in each of these months. Round it down to 1/3 and the point remains. That's why we need quality transit options like the healthline!
March 11, 200916 yr ^^ In addition to that one and the planters, decorative brick, trash canisters, tree grates, etc., there is also another public art project in University Circle and one planned for East Cleveland. But I agree ... more=better.
March 11, 200916 yr I like it, too. First thing I thought of was the old Toronto Blue Jays logo. Probably not what they're going for, but I like it.
March 11, 200916 yr Reminds me of flames - a little like the firefighter's one near the lake. Less shlocky, though, thank goodness!
March 12, 200916 yr Thanks for the pic. Im in New Orleans still. I wanted to come back to Chicago and Cleveland for St Pat's parades, but I blew my travel budget on booze over Carnival down here.
March 12, 200916 yr Thanks for the pic. Im in New Orleans still. I wanted to come back to Chicago and Cleveland for St Pat's parades, but I blew my travel budget on booze over Carnival down here. So when are we getting pictures of the real NoLa? hint..hint :wink: :wink: :wink:
March 12, 200916 yr A NYTimes blog gave a shout-out to the HealthLine today: http://greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/12/fast-buses-vs-light-rail-you-decide/?hp
March 12, 200916 yr Here is the actual article in case the link goes down. Fast Buses vs. Light Rail: You Decide By Kate Galbraith HealthLineRTAHealthline http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/blogs/greeninc/healthline.jpeg Cleveland’s new HealthLine rapid bus system is top o’ the line, but can this sort of public transit really compete with light rail systems? In thinking about expanding public transport in big cities, light rail and subway extensions usually come to mind first. But “bus rapid transit,” or B.R.T. — a model successfully implemented in cities from Bogota to Los Angeles — is gaining currency. .......... http://greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/12/fast-buses-vs-light-rail-you-decide/
March 13, 200916 yr I like the fact that we are considered to have the best developed system in the country, but at the same price wouldn't a Light rail line have been a better option. Especially due to the fact that they are not dependant on the price of oil. I think most of us are in agreement that prices will continue to climb thereby making electric a much more appealing option.
March 13, 200916 yr Often the buses look sleeker and have more amenities, like automatic glass doors on the stations, than regular city buses. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That made my day. Sounds great-- pimp how cheap it is while falsely attributing expensive features. It's an obvious step down from light rail in several ways, fuel dependence being just one. Though I don't get why they never point out the tremendous value of being able to reroute BRT when needed. To me, that's the main advantage it holds over trains. The aspects BRT boosters tend to focus on instead are more questionable and less convincing. No, it's not equivalent to a train. Stop saying that!
March 13, 200916 yr I believe I said earlier this was being done by DCA. I sent them an email but feel free to call them directly.
March 13, 200916 yr Contact Information, Please. There aren't that many folks there so it won't be complicated to find somebody who can give you that information; just call their direct line and explain what you want: http://www.downtownclevelandalliance.com/staff.asp
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