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Edited June 3, 20214 yr by jebleprls22

I briefly locked this thread to get this said - as a longtime UO poster and longtime UO moderator.

 

It is wonderful to get posters with a passion for a subject or topic.  That's why UO exists and still thrives after some 16-17 years of existence.  Another trait of UO is that we try to foster a civil discussion of topics and try to keep those discussions on-topic.  This is something somewhat unique among city discussions sites.  As such, the owners of this site task the volunteer moderators with maintaining this standard.

 

- This Newark thread has been getting a greater level of activity lately.  GOOD

- This Newark thread has also been getting into some contentious back-and-forth arguments.  NOT SO GOOD

 

The site owners and moderators try not to interfere with legit topic discussions - even if things get heated.  But we do try to head off discussions that become personal "city vs city" type arguments.  Experience has told us that these personal "city vs city" arguments never lead to anything but unproductive discussion and hurt feelings.

 

FWIW, I tend to agree with this last comment:

On 5/14/2021 at 9:49 AM, jebleprls22 said:

The idea of any town in vicinity to a city needs to stop -- Newark was settled prior to Columbus. And Granville was also independently settled. Their growth may now be directly impacted by Columbus, but that doesn't make them a Hilliard/Dublin/Gahanna whose growth has been almost exclusively sprawl as people who left the city of Columbus/exclusively work in Columbus. Only in the past several decades have those cities started to try and recreate their own identity with mixed use downtown areas, etc.

 

Newark is one of the county seats of the counties surrounding Franklin County - like Lancaster, Delaware, Marysville, Circleville and London.  But Newark is also the oldest and most populous of the surrounding county seats.  So it stands apart in that sense.  It certainly isn't a "suburb" in the traditional sense of the term.  It is a "city" in its own right.  A city along with many other cities that make up the Columbus MSA - which is called that because Columbus the largest city within that MSA.

 

It's not a downgrade to Newark to belong to the Columbus MSA - that's a simple acknowledgement that the City of Columbus is, by far, the largest city in the MSA.  Newark is the second-largest city in the MSA and has its own "Greater Newark" thing going on within the greater Central Ohio region too.  Those two things can both be going on without conflict.

 

But it seems very inaccurate to call Newark a "suburb".  The traditional idea of a suburb is a bedroom community with very little amenities - even if the Columbus suburbs of Hilliard/Dublin/Gahanna etc have gone beyond those parameters.  Newark is a longstanding city with a traditional downtown, plus - as was pointed out - some suburban areas of its own!  So to call Newark a suburb of Columbus does seem like a downgrade.

 

So - with all that being said - let's please continue posting about projects in Newark.  Because this is a projects and development thread - not an MSA/Census/Population thread (we have many of those in the City Discussion section).  And please continue posting about projects in the "Greater Newark" area as well.  I personally was unaware that "Greater Newark" could be a thing.  But you do have Newark/Heath/Granville all next to each other.  So okay, Greater Newark - just don't get carried away with it.

 

Going forward in this thread:

• Please continue posting relevant project info and continue with the discussions that legitimately arise from that.
• Please hold off on the city vs city back-and-forth.
• And please just tone it down - everyone.

That's both my personal advice as a longtime UO poster and my official advice as a longtime UO moderator.

 

So with that said - carry on.

Noted...thank you for your words.  I apologize to anyone if i come across as aggressive...i am just really proud of my city.  That's all lol.  I will continue to update this thread regularly with projects and development around the GNA.  Thanks for all of your support and general welcomed acceptance of Newark's progress.  

2 hours ago, OhioFinest said:

Noted...thank you for your words.  I apologize to anyone if i come across as aggressive...i am just really proud of my city.  That's all lol.  I will continue to update this thread regularly with projects and development around the GNA.  Thanks for all of your support and general welcomed acceptance of Newark's progress.  

 

I don't think you need to apologize for having pride in where you live/come from. I want to apologize if you took what I said out of context(and I may have worded it incorrectly).  I honestly love the Newark area and was referring to the old parts reminding me of where I grew up in Eastern Ohio(the good and the bad).  I agree the area has come a long way in the last 10 years and is going nowhere but up in the future.

Newark Station opens, reveals massive multi-use redevelopment plans

Kent Mallett - Newark Advocate - May 29, 2021

 

 

"Newark Station, a massive $11 million multi-use redevelopment project, already features four lighted sand volleyball courts, an outdoor taco bar and live music in the first phase of a four-phase redevelopment that opened Friday night at 325 West Main St.Todd Alexander, president of property owner A4 Ragtime Band Development, and Seth Stout, co-founder and director of operations, announced plans for the three additional phases that will be developed through 2024. ... The former industrial site of White-Westinghouse, Pharis Tire and Rubber and Simpson Soap will become home to a 140,000-square foot development consisting of a coffee shop, lounge, 22 loft apartments, rooftop bar, modern-day trading post featuring artisans and entrepreneurs, office space, Italian restaurant and possibly a city park along Raccoon Creek."

 

I went to Newark Station over the Holiday weekend to check it out.  This place has TONS of potential, it just needs A LOT of work.  It has a long way to go, but it could be a really cool place to visit once its built out and completed.  The part about this that i LOVE the most, is that all of the glass is being saved and repurposed to build the Glass Greenhouse Italian Restaurant that is planned for the site.  That is really cool.  I also like the idea of a rooftop restaurant/bar that is being planned.  

 

BUT...

 

I think that the city should have kept this zoned industrial.  Newark only has a few really large properties left that could be redeveloped for new facilities/jobs.  This city is growing and has tons of momentum, but what this city could use the most, is the announcement of one of the many distribution centers being built in a 15 mile diameter, building a new facility in this location instead.  A company building a facility in Newark, in this location would blow the lid off of the momentum happening here. I think the city really really missed a golden opportunity to redevelop the site.  But i digress, i guess Newark Station is better than nothing at this point. I hope it really works!!

Edited June 2, 20214 yr by OhioFinest

53 minutes ago, OhioFinest said:

I went to Newark Station over the Holiday weekend to check it out.  This place has TONS of potential, it just needs A LOT of work.  It has a long way to go, but it could be a really cool place to visit once its built out and completed.  The part about this that i LOVE the most, is that all of the glass is being saved and repurposed to build the Glass Greenhouse Italian Restaurant that is planned for the site.  That is really cool.  I also like the idea of a rooftop restaurant/bar that is being planned.  

 

BUT...

 

I think that the city should have kept this zoned industrial.  Newark only has a few really large properties left that could be redeveloped for new facilities/jobs.  This city is growing and has tons of momentum, but what this city could use the most, is the announcement of one of the many distribution centers being built in a 15 mile diameter, building a new facility in this location instead.  A company building a facility in Newark, in this location would blow the lid off of the momentum happening here. I think the city really really missed a golden opportunity to redevelop the site.  But i digress, i guess Newark Station is better than nothing at this point. I hope it really works!!

I really don't think you want a lot of 18 wheelers rolling down this street. The area is not equipped to handle that kind of traffic. Plus there are huge industrial areas on the Heath/Newark border that are entirely undeveloped and situated significantly better to handle an industrial amount of traffic, wear and tear and can easily shoot down to 70 or up 79 to 16 whereas this location would get jammed up quickly at the 16 interchange just west of here.

 

This being redeveloped into a mixed use type of thing is honestly the best type of redevelopment that could happen here. The area is entirely surrounded by residential and low density commercial so transitioning this site back into a heavy industrial use would just anger a lot of people, especially when there is SO MUCH industrial land available basically everywhere else in the area/county. It should also bring some additional life into this area of Newark which honestly isn't the nicest area of the city, especially if those two very divey dive bars actually sell and get redeveloped as well. This area could become a destination as opposed to the pass through to downtown that it has been for ages.

1 hour ago, TIm said:

I really don't think you want a lot of 18 wheelers rolling down this street. The area is not equipped to handle that kind of traffic. Plus there are huge industrial areas on the Heath/Newark border that are entirely undeveloped and situated significantly better to handle an industrial amount of traffic, wear and tear and can easily shoot down to 70 or up 79 to 16 whereas this location would get jammed up quickly at the 16 interchange just west of here.

 

This being redeveloped into a mixed use type of thing is honestly the best type of redevelopment that could happen here. The area is entirely surrounded by residential and low density commercial so transitioning this site back into a heavy industrial use would just anger a lot of people, especially when there is SO MUCH industrial land available basically everywhere else in the area/county. It should also bring some additional life into this area of Newark which honestly isn't the nicest area of the city, especially if those two very divey dive bars actually sell and get redeveloped as well. This area could become a destination as opposed to the pass through to downtown that it has been for ages.

I just disagree....10000000%  Maybe if it were a site for jobs, those areas that aren't so "nice" could be improved with people having good paying jobs?  But again, its better than nothing and i hope it succeeds. 

Edited June 2, 20214 yr by OhioFinest

35 minutes ago, OhioFinest said:

I just disagree....10000000%  Maybe if it were a site for jobs, those areas that aren't so "nice" could be improved with people having good paying jobs?  But again, its better than nothing and i hope it succeeds. 

The Newark area is not at a loss for jobs though. There are so many new businesses moving into the area and creating jobs and new residential developments going in left and right which is a major indicator of economic growth in the area as well. Just go look at the Heath industrial park (which is basically Newark). There are so many new builds happening currently and more stuff keeps getting announced. I don't see why reinitiating industrial use in a predominantly residential area could be a good thing at all. In very recent memory we have had the vegan seafood manufacturing facility, the baby food manufacturing facility, the Carvana facility, Owens Corning is building a new facility, there are a few spec buildings being built, not to mention all the industrial development in Etna that hundreds of people from Newark work in. Also all the non-industrial businesses opening up and expanding. 

 

Building industrial in a residential area just so a few dozen people can walk to work just doesn't make any sense when the industrial traffic is going to upset people, the noise is going to upset people and potential by products of whatever it would be used for would also upset people. What they are doing with this site is absolutely the best use. People don't want to live near factories or large logistics operations which is why they are going into places like Etna where the opposition will be minimal. There are thousands of people who live within walking distance of this site so making it something the entire community can benefit from is by far going to be the best use of this space as opposed to slapping a fresh coat of paint on an old building and having dozens of 18 wheelers roll down Main Street every single day.

None of that is in Newark though...none of it. The city of Newark receives NO benefit from that, other than Newark citizens having to driving to Etna for work. I want Newark to get some some of this payroll tax. This site is literally 200-300 ft from the major intersection of 16 and 79. West Main St is one of the busiest streets in Newark. It’s even close to a rail head. If anything, I could make the argument that this location is PRIME real estate for industrial redevelopment. It was zoned industrial for a century after all. I don’t think the 10 houses across the street are really that big of a factor. If anything, they’d probably rather see a nice business and jobs, rather than more bars and nightlife.  I just think Newark needs jobs!! Just because facilities are being built in Western Licking County doesn’t mean the city of Newark shouldn’t be trying. This takes up one of the last remaining large parcels of industrial land for redevelopment.  I think this would be better served as an industrial site. But again....I hope they make it. When I went there, only a few people were there. Just my opinion, but I don’t foresee many people frequenting this place until it’s completely finished. It just simply needs a LOT of work. Sand volleyball courts have NEVER been in demand here locally.  Just my opinion....

12 minutes ago, OhioFinest said:

None of that is in Newark though...none of it. The city of Newark receives NO benefit from that, other than Newark citizens having to driving to Etna for work. I want Newark to get some some of this payroll tax. This site is literally 200-300 ft from the major intersection of 16 and 79. West Main St is one of the busiest streets in Newark. It’s even close to a rail head. If anything, I could make the argument that this location is PRIME real estate for industrial redevelopment. It was zoned industrial for a century after all. I don’t think the 10 houses across the street are really that big of a factor. If anything, they’d probably rather see a nice business and jobs, rather than more bars and nightlife.  I just think Newark needs jobs!! Just because facilities are being built in Western Licking County doesn’t mean the city of Newark shouldn’t be trying. This takes up one of the last remaining large parcels of industrial land for redevelopment.  I think this would be better served as an industrial site. But again....I hope they make it. When I went there, only a few people were there. Just my opinion, but I don’t foresee many people frequenting this place until it’s completely finished. It just simply needs a LOT of work. Sand volleyball courts have NEVER been in demand here locally.  Just my opinion....

The plan says it includes office space, which achieves the goals you want.

23 minutes ago, OhioFinest said:

None of that is in Newark though...none of it. The city of Newark receives NO benefit from that, other than Newark citizens having to driving to Etna for work. I want Newark to get some some of this payroll tax. This site is literally 200-300 ft from the major intersection of 16 and 79. West Main St is one of the busiest streets in Newark. It’s even close to a rail head. If anything, I could make the argument that this location is PRIME real estate for industrial redevelopment. It was zoned industrial for a century after all. I don’t think the 10 houses across the street are really that big of a factor. If anything, they’d probably rather see a nice business and jobs, rather than more bars and nightlife.  I just think Newark needs jobs!! Just because facilities are being built in Western Licking County doesn’t mean the city of Newark shouldn’t be trying. This takes up one of the last remaining large parcels of industrial land for redevelopment.  I think this would be better served as an industrial site. But again....I hope they make it. When I went there, only a few people were there. Just my opinion, but I don’t foresee many people frequenting this place until it’s completely finished. It just simply needs a LOT of work. Sand volleyball courts have NEVER been in demand here locally.  Just my opinion....

I kinda see where you are coming from, but why does Newark need industrial jobs? Especially right here? There are WAY more than 10 houses near this site as well. There are dozens of houses immediately north, east, south and west of this site. There are also a multitude of other industries which are doing very well in Newark and there are an insane amount of industrial jobs in the area for people who want to work in that industry. Not to mention the one major industrial facility in Newark, Owens Corning, is at about 20% of its workforce compared to its heyday.

 

Small time manufacturing and operations are thriving in Newark though so finding someone who would want to use this facility would be nearly impossible seeing as it was available for industrial uses for over a decade and just sat essentially vacant because nobody wanted it. That 16/79 interchange right there is not equipped for that type of traffic as I mentioned before and if Main Street is already one of the busiest areas around this part of Newark, why would you want it to get busier? There would need to be infrastructure upgrades which the very oddly laid out interchange would not be able to accommodate. Do you really want to be stuck behind an 18 wheeler trying to do that 200ft death merge onto 79 to get over to 16 east? 

 

I completely understand where you are coming from when you say you want more jobs in the City of Newark and want the tax money to stay in the city, but this site is just so poorly situated for any type of heavy industrial use at this stage in the cities life cycle that it would just create problems. This redevelopment of the site as is will bring in so much more money to Newark compared to an almost entirely vacant facility with a "for lease" sign out front, which is what it has been for ages and would likely continue to be since there are so many better sites in Central Ohio to develop for industrial use.

 

EDIT: These types of discussions are fantastic though and I appreciate your thoughts.

Edited June 2, 20214 yr by TIm

Those warehouses like nearby interstate access. Has Etna been able to annex them?

I think what they are doing with this site is by far the best option. You are getting housing, retail, employment(the office space component), entertainment, and recreation space(possibly including the park along the creek). This will offer so much more than just industrial jobs. Also the office space will hopefully be designed to be flexible to change according to changing needs. 

 

 

JMHO

I just disagree with your assessment...completely.  I think you are VASTLY overstating this "residential" area thing.  In fact, this site is in a heavily zoned industrial area.  You also keep talking about traffic, this area is literally less than 200-300 FT from the highway.  Trucks wouldn't be on W Main for more than 1 min so i fail to see your logic on that as well.  

 

The site in question is the yellow box with the "asterisk" in it

All the areas in YELLOW are industrial sites.

All the areas in BLUE are mixed use commercial/industrial

Again, "Trucks" would literally be on W Main for a minimal amount of time. The 16/79 interchange makes this a prime location.

 

 

This is the site as it currently sits.  A huge piece of prime real estate. I think this site should have been demolished and redeveloped.  HUGE missed opportunity for the city to develop this land and try and bring in good paying jobs. Thats my story and im sticking to it.

 

 

 

 

 

Now, look at the area thats being built up in ETNA....looks to me like there is plenty of residential located right next to all the facilities being built there.  So again, that should have absolutely zero impact on a potential developer for the site

 

Edited June 3, 20214 yr by OhioFinest

Just a quick FYI on the Newark Station project though, Northpoint Ohio Architecture is the firm that was selected for this site.  Their banners are all over the site.  In case you didn't know, they are moving from their site at the corner of 21st and Moull St, to downtown Newark to be apart of all the energy and momentum going on downtown.  They are moving to 19 N Fourth St.  They are redeveloping an old building downtown that has long been vacant.  I love what they are going to do!!! Here is their website link and the designs for their new location. It looks really cool.  I would also urge you to take a look at their website and all the projects that they have coming for Downtown Newark. 

 

https://northpointohio.com/

 

New location...Before:

 

 

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Edited June 3, 20214 yr by OhioFinest

1 hour ago, OhioFinest said:

I just disagree with your assessment...completely.  I think you are VASTLY overstating this "residential" area thing.  In fact, this site is in a heavily zoned industrial area.  You also keep talking about traffic, this area is literally less than 200-300 FT from the highway.  Trucks wouldn't be on W Main for more than 1 min so i fail to see your logic on that as well.  

 

The site in question is the yellow box with the "asterisk" in it

All the areas in YELLOW are industrial sites.

All the areas in BLUE are mixed use commercial/industrial

Again, "Trucks" would literally be on W Main for a minimal amount of time. The 16/79 interchange makes this a prime location.

 

 

This is the site as it currently sits.  A huge piece of prime real estate. I think this site should have been demolished and redeveloped.  HUGE missed opportunity for the city to develop this land and try and bring in good paying jobs. Thats my story and im sticking to it.

 

 

 

 

 

Now, look at the area thats being built up in ETNA....looks to me like there is plenty of residential located right next to all the facilities being built there.  So again, that should have absolutely zero impact on a potential developer for the site

 

Agree to disagree! I think we can both say it's awesome this dilapidated old warehouse is finally being used for something though!

Just now, TIm said:

Agree to disagree! I think we can both say it's awesome this dilapidated old warehouse is finally being used for something though!

 

Agreed on that!!  I am particularly interested in the Glass Greenhouse Italian restaurant....THAT is cool!!!

 

 

Newark Arcade lands tax credit for $10M facelift

 

The Newark Arcade will get a $10 million facelift thanks to a state historic preservation tax credit.

 

The Ohio Development Services Agency awarded a $1.1 million credit to the project Wednesday, part of a pool of $36 million doled out for the rehabilitation of 51 historic buildings. Together, the projects are expected to leverage $368 million in private investments across13 communities, the department said.

 

“Preserving these historic buildings will transform our communities,” said Lydia Mihalik, director of the Ohio Development Services Agency. “The restored buildings are part of the charming neighborhoods that will keep our students here and attract new businesses to our great state.”

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2021/06/30/newark-arcade.html

 

Yet again, I'm very impressed by all the redevelopment Newark is seeing! I wasn't aware of Newark Station before, but it looks really cool. I love projects that reuse old industrial sites like that. I think it's a good way to memorialize the industrial past of the city while making it new again. I'd like to see more cities take up projects like that. I think it's also great for the neighborhoods around it as the Newark Station project could be a stimulus for further development in the neighborhood surrounding it.

20 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

Newark Arcade lands tax credit for $10M facelift

 

The Newark Arcade will get a $10 million facelift thanks to a state historic preservation tax credit.

 

The Ohio Development Services Agency awarded a $1.1 million credit to the project Wednesday, part of a pool of $36 million doled out for the rehabilitation of 51 historic buildings. Together, the projects are expected to leverage $368 million in private investments across13 communities, the department said.

 

“Preserving these historic buildings will transform our communities,” said Lydia Mihalik, director of the Ohio Development Services Agency. “The restored buildings are part of the charming neighborhoods that will keep our students here and attract new businesses to our great state.”

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2021/06/30/newark-arcade.html

 

This is such fantastic news! I actually use to be a health inspector in Newark and have spent a decent amount of time in this building as I had to inspect the bar and met with people here many times to check out various units to see how difficult it would be to get them up the health code standards for a food place (spoiler: it was very difficult, nobody ever moved in).

 

The previous owner, who also owned and operated the now closed pub, always had big dreams of fixing this place up but never really had the means or the motivation and was always blaming the fire inspectors. He would always tell me about how every year someone would make an offer to buy the entire place and each year the price went up a bit. He was basically holding out until either the price couldn't be turned down (he wanted 7 digits and was getting really close) or he was forced to sell (which is what happened). I'm sure they're still disgruntled, especially the bar patrons and employees, but overall it's an enormous improvement for downtown Newark. Also the strip club next door is closing permanently and the license will essentially shutter making downtown a bit more family friendly after dark.

 

This place has an upstairs area which apparently has old run down apartments in it. I never got to go up there because it apparently was not safe, but this could be such a cool place to live. I can only imagine the awesome architecture that's hidden up there. I got to see the upstairs of other downtown Newark buildings and they were just spectacular once fixed up. The interior of this space, especially the ceiling, is just a beautiful work of art too. With some TLC I think it can get back to its heyday and it'll actually become a destination. I've also spent some significant time in the basement of this place..... and it isn't pretty. I have NEVER seen more rat droppings (yes rat, not mouse) in my entire life. The edges of the walls down there (they can't see well so use their whiskers on the wall to guide themselves around) were layered in rodent feces. The entire place needs to be refinished, updated and everything needs to basically be redone top to bottom. Place has had band aids slapped on top of band aids slapped on top of band aids for decades now. 

 

I'm so excited for them to renovate and reopen this place. It is absolutely one of the coolest buildings in Licking County and it's so underutilized and so many people don't even know it exists. Downtown Newark has very obviously been on the up and up, but this building, once renovated, will become a destination.

 

I can honestly say this is the most exciting development to come to the Newark area since I've been keeping up with what's happening there since 2016. Positive rant over!

I know a japanese barcade was slated to go in there but had to deal with so many ups and downs with "fire inspections and sprinklers" and the super-flaky building owner that it just didn't happen. The guy was trying to sell the building and didn't want a new tenant when he sold it I guess. It turned into a whole thing; I think there were even demonstrations in front of the building. This was about two years ago.

Edited June 30, 20213 yr by GCrites80s

14 hours ago, GCrites80s said:

I know a japanese barcade was slated to go in there but had to deal with so many ups and downs with "fire inspections and sprinklers" and the super-flaky building owner that it just didn't happen. The guy was trying to sell the building and didn't want a new tenant when he sold it I guess. It turned into a whole thing; I think there were even demonstrations in front of the building. This was about two years ago.

I remember! Was towards the end of my tenure working there. There was previously a bar which they kinda thought they could just take over but it had been there for ages so everything which was grandfathered in (which was just about everything) needed to be brought up to code both on the food safety, plumbing, liquor control, building code and fire code side of things. If the new owners are smart they will retrofit some of those units to suit the needs of a food operation. When I was in there though, water was the big issue. Need hand sinks, mop sink, dish washing sink and likely a food prep sink at minimum and it was going to be crazy expensive to install all that since the building wasn't built with that type of water use in mine.

I have been wanting to respond to this for a few days, but was out of commission and unable to do so.  This is amazing news!!!  I talked with a couple of restaurant/bar owners about this and the plans that have yet to surface out of this are incredible and that's all i can say at the moment.  The renderings for this look absolutely beautiful. I cant explain to you how proud i am of this city. Newark had a vision, a plan for that vision and put it into action.  The positive impact of this and the momentum this has built throughout the entire Greater Newark Area has been felt everywhere.  Newark/Heath/Granville are great places to be right now.  

 

 

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Edited July 2, 20213 yr by OhioFinest

2 hours ago, OhioFinest said:

I have been wanting to respond to this for a few days, but was out of commission and unable to do so.  This is amazing news!!!  I talked with a couple of restaurant/bar owners about this and the plans that have yet to surface out of this are incredible and that's all i can say at the moment.  The renderings for this look absolutely beautiful. I cant explain to you how proud i am of this city. Newark had a vision, a plan for that vision and put it into action.  The positive impact of this and the momentum this has built throughout the entire Greater Newark Area has been felt everywhere.  Newark/Heath/Granville are great places to be right now.  

 

 

Before:

 

After: 

Ooooh I wonder if that bistro in the rendering where the strip club was is finally going to be that high end steak house they've been talking about putting into downtown Newark for years now. Last I heard the gravel parking lot around the corner on Main Street is where they wanted to also build out a new street with some nice restaurants, retail and residential as well. In my 5 years here I have witnessed so many positive changes in the Newark area, it's awesome!

https://www.newarkadvocate.com/get-access/?return=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newarkadvocate.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2F2021%2F08%2F12%2Frockford-homes-presents-67-lot-housing-plan-newark%2F5569343001%2F

 

Rockford Homes is proposing a new 67 unit housing development off of River Road in Western Newark.  There wont be any rezoning as this land is already zoned for single family.  Hopefully this gets approved and we can get some dirt moving.  

 

The development would be in the yellow area. 

 

1 hour ago, OhioFinest said:

https://www.newarkadvocate.com/get-access/?return=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newarkadvocate.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2F2021%2F08%2F12%2Frockford-homes-presents-67-lot-housing-plan-newark%2F5569343001%2F

 

Rockford Homes is proposing a new 67 unit housing development off of River Road in Western Newark.  There wont be any rezoning as this land is already zoned for single family.  Hopefully this gets approved and we can get some dirt moving.  

 

The development would be in the yellow area. 

 

Smart move by the developer. Newark certainly could have used all the housing under the previous proposal, but this will ruffle a lot less feathers since it is more of a desirable area of Newark and Granville can't have as much to complain about. There are plenty of other areas in Newark where higher density housing would fit in with significantly less opposition. I do love the quote in the article about how Granville has had 20 years to prepare for this and it's finally time for these properties to get developed.

1 hour ago, OhioFinest said:

https://www.newarkadvocate.com/get-access/?return=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newarkadvocate.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2F2021%2F08%2F12%2Frockford-homes-presents-67-lot-housing-plan-newark%2F5569343001%2F

 

Rockford Homes is proposing a new 67 unit housing development off of River Road in Western Newark.  There wont be any rezoning as this land is already zoned for single family.  Hopefully this gets approved and we can get some dirt moving.  

 

The development would be in the yellow area. 

 

Good news for Newark. So what do you think Newark's official 2020 numbers will be when released at 1pm? I did not realize that Newark never really had a period of any significant loss-just pretty much stable or growing over time.  Besides Columbus, there has never been another city breaking the 50,000 mark in the immediate Central Ohio area. Now we hopefully will have three in total. 

 

 

Just now, Toddguy said:

Good news for Newark. So what do you think Newark's official 2020 numbers will be when released at 1pm? I did not realize that Newark never really had a period of any significant loss-just pretty much stable or growing over time.  Besides Columbus, there has never been another city breaking the 50,000 mark in the immediate Central Ohio area. Now we hopefully will have three in total. 

 

 

I'm fairly certain the estimates have had Newark over 50,000 residents for a couple years now. I remember reading an article about it when it happened. It is crazy to think Newark is the second largest city in Central Ohio! Place has done nothing but improve since I originally moved to the area 5 years ago.

3 hours ago, Toddguy said:

Good news for Newark. So what do you think Newark's official 2020 numbers will be when released at 1pm? I did not realize that Newark never really had a period of any significant loss-just pretty much stable or growing over time.  Besides Columbus, there has never been another city breaking the 50,000 mark in the immediate Central Ohio area. Now we hopefully will have three in total. 

 

 

Its pretty remarkable right?  Newark has positioned itself to have a great decade ahead.  The infrastructure investments, development and new housing developments over the last 20 years have really been a great thing to witness.  More great things are on the horizon for the entire area as well. 

3 hours ago, TIm said:

I'm fairly certain the estimates have had Newark over 50,000 residents for a couple years now. I remember reading an article about it when it happened. It is crazy to think Newark is the second largest city in Central Ohio! Place has done nothing but improve since I originally moved to the area 5 years ago.

I wouldn't be surprised if Newark is over 51k at this point.  With the 5 new housing developments breaking ground soon, Newark could be on the way to 52-55k in the next 5-10 years. 

I stumbled across this information recently. I don't know how old this is, or if this project has changed hands to this Gossman Group, but their plans for Downtown Newark have been making the rounds around here lately.  It seems like a revised plan from the previous Northpoint Architecture plans?  Anybody know anything more about this?  This would be a pretty awesome development as well...both plans look incredible to me and would make a tremendous impact on Downtown Newark.

 

https://gossmangroup.com/project/courthouse-square/

 

 

Newark made it awfully close to 50,000 in the 2020 Census number, at 49,934. Now they are in a race with Dublin, at 49,328.

I simply don’t understand the 49,934 number. That was the number that was released in April 2020 for the 19’ estimate. So that number is 2 years old. Newark is certainly over 50k at this point. So weird!! 

2 hours ago, ink said:

Newark made it awfully close to 50,000 in the 2020 Census number, at 49,934. Now they are in a race with Dublin, at 49,328.

 

26 minutes ago, OhioFinest said:

I simply don’t understand the 49,934 number. That was the number that was released in April 2020 for the 19’ estimate. So that number is 2 years old. Newark is certainly over 50k at this point. So weird!! 

Damn neither of them made it. Newark should demand a recount/sue. That number being the same as before is too fishy. Demand justice! 

The 2019 ACS estimate I see for Newark is 50,315, not the same as the official 2020 Census number.

 

The ACS estimate may have been skewed a little higher because of all the development in Newark, and undercounting population loss in older neighborhoods. 

34 minutes ago, ink said:

The 2019 ACS estimate I see for Newark is 50,315, not the same as the official 2020 Census number.

 

The ACS estimate may have been skewed a little higher because of all the development in Newark, and undercounting population loss in older neighborhoods. 

 

Yep, I'm seeing the same number. It's only a difference of a couple hundred people though. No need for the Newark fanatics to freak out. With all of the new housing going up, it will pass the arbitrary 50k number very soon.

 

 

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/newarkcityohio/POP010220

Lol its not "freaking out".  The official census numbers released yesterday are the exact same numbers from the 2019 count that was release in April of 2020.  I just find that to be very strange. 

42 minutes ago, OhioFinest said:

Lol its not "freaking out".  The official census numbers released yesterday are the exact same numbers from the 2019 count that was release in April of 2020.  I just find that to be very strange. 

 

Why do you keep saying this? It is not the same number.

25 minutes ago, OhioFinest said:

Lol its not "freaking out".  The official census numbers released yesterday are the exact same numbers from the 2019 count that was release in April of 2020.  I just find that to be very strange. 

 

What are you talking about? It's not the same. I just proved to you that it's not the same. 

If the numbers are not the same, then I withdraw my "demand justice" comment. I am sure with all of the developments planned the city will be continuing to add residents, and as mentioned the city will far surpass the 50,000 number.  The city is still the number 2 city population wise in Central Ohio(ahead of Dublin).

2 minutes ago, Toddguy said:

If the numbers are not the same, then I withdraw my "demand justice" comment. I am sure with all of the developments planned the city will be continuing to add residents, and as mentioned the city will far surpass the 50,000 number.  The city is still the number 2 city population wise in Central Ohio(ahead of Dublin).

 

They are not the same. I have no idea where that idea is coming from. Maybe @OhioFinestcan provide us proof of the claim being made, because I can't find it anywhere. 

 Is Newark's official census number 49,934 or not?  That EXACT number was already released 16 months ago by Census Bureau.  I don't know how to put it much clearer for you? 

Edited August 13, 20213 yr by OhioFinest

2 minutes ago, OhioFinest said:

Is Newark's official census number 49,934 or not?

 

Yes.

 

2 minutes ago, OhioFinest said:

That EXACT number was already released 16 months ago by Census Bureau for the estimate. 

 

No it wasn't. I posted the 2019 estimate above. It was 50,315. 

 

4 minutes ago, OhioFinest said:

I don't know how to put it much clearer for you? 

 

If you can explain how 50,315 is the same as 49,934, that would probably clear some things up. 

The link to the Census Bureau, that has that 49,934 was released in April of 2020.  I have known about this number for 16 months.  Can't put it much clearer for you.  But i digress...It doesn't really bother me as i know Newark is actually over 50K currently.  No need for you to freak out. 

1 minute ago, OhioFinest said:

The link to the Census Bureau, that has that 49,934 was released in April of 2020.  I have known about this number for 16 months.  Can't put it much clearer for you.  But i digress...It doesn't really bother me as i know Newark is actually over 50K currently.  No need for you to freak out. 

Can you just link to the page where you see that data?  That would clear this all up without everybody bickering at each other.

What’s the population of Newark and Heath combined?

Newark/Heath/Granville/Hanover....the Greater Newark Area is around 65-70K

So, this post by @OhioFinest in the Ohio population thread has a screenshot of the number they're talking about.  I don't really know what we're looking for, but maybe this can help clear it up.

 

 

Edited August 13, 20213 yr by TH3BUDDHA

3 minutes ago, OhioFinest said:

The link to the Census Bureau, that has that 49,934 was released in April of 2020.  I have known about this number for 16 months.  Can't put it much clearer for you.  But i digress...It doesn't really bother me as i know Newark is actually over 50K currently.  No need for you to freak out. 

 

Give us a link to this number you are talking about.