Maybe he had glaucoma. I've heard that becomes more common among people your age...

^Square

 

^Square

 

LOL!  Beat me to it

I'm not getting into a car with someone who drinks (beyond what I think is safe), or does any sort of drugs.  I value my life and riding in a car in LA with someone who is impaired is not sexy to me.

 

 

Especially after I've asked you TWICE if you did drugs.  Remember the "character" question I mentioned earlier?

 

 

I'm not trying to go to jail.  He drives a Mercedes, add in two brown people and thats all the LAPD needs to justify pulling you over.

 

 

Maybe he had glaucoma. I've heard that becomes more common among people your age...

He's 27, there is nothing wrong with his eyes, with the exception of them being blood shot!

MTS, you're still terrorizing 20 year olds? ;)

 

I understand why you wouldn't want to get into a car with someone who is high (and I think it is shitty to get high while on a date with someone), but I don't really get your hang up with weed. Besides, isn't it pretty easy to get pot in California legally?

I don't really get your hang up with weed. ?

MTS is all about the sizzurp.

 

 

I think it is sh!tty to get high while on a date with someone

Yeah, I'd be more po'd about the fact that he left you to go smoke a doobie with his buddies, and you had to go track him down.

 

Yes, I called it a doobie. 

MTS, you're still terrorizing 20 year olds? ;)

 

I understand why you wouldn't want to get into a car with someone who is high (and I think it is sh!tty to get high while on a date with someone), but I don't really get your hang up with weed. Besides, isn't it pretty easy to get pot in California legally?

 

Hey.  He came on to me.  I was minding my own business after my run in UCLA.  He came up to me at Starbucks (shhhh...I know I know) and initiated this.  He asked me if I went to UCLA.  Flattery will get you to the screen door, but not invited in. 8)

 

I'm old school.  I'm from the "just say no" generation!  I dont want to socialize let alone date anyone who smokes weed (or any other substance).  Period!

^I agree MTS!  Weed smoking is a major turn off for me.  I mean, if I'm casually dating someone, and they do it when I'm not around, I'm cool.  HOWEVER, if you come to the date high, or go out to get hugh DURING the date, that's just not acceptable!

I can sympathize.  Those pot-smokers can be some real crazies...

 

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Stalker?  Check ;)

This thread is awesome to read. Such clever people here! :-D

>Stalker?  Check

 

No, I barely pay attention to Twitter, so I can't track their every move.  I made no attempt to put it back on my phone after I deleted it by mistake.  Obviously, Twitter has become a playground for those who play games and only play games.  I've heard about girls hearing that girls they hate are at some event, then essentially tweeting "hey boys I'm at ______ come and get me", when they're not there and have no intention of going.  Within minutes a small wave of guys roll into said bar, but the girl they're after isn't there.  It's a show of force to the hated girl, who of course saw the tweet and the nearly instant reaction. 

>Stalker?  Check

 

No, I barely pay attention to Twitter, so I can't track their every move.  I made no attempt to put it back on my phone after I deleted it by mistake.  Obviously, Twitter has become a playground for those who play games and only play games.  I've heard about girls hearing that girls they hate are at some event, then essentially tweeting "hey boys I'm at ______ come and get me", when they're not there and have no intention of going.  Within minutes a small wave of guys roll into said bar, but the girl they're after isn't there.  It's a show of force to the hated girl, who of course saw the tweet and the nearly instant reaction. 

 

People do that?  How childish!

^The girl who tweated?  Or the losers that became part of that 'wave'?

^The girl who tweated?  Or the losers that became part of that 'wave'?

 

BOTH!  How desperate are you to go to a party where you "think" a hot girl is.  Talk about being "thirsty"!

All involved are idiots, so far as I'm concerned.  When a girl announces on Twitter that she has an extra ticket for some concert or event, just ignore it.  She will go with the most desperate of her twitter followers to the concert, let him think he's got some sort of chance, then suggest they go to a bar afterward.  On the drive over she'll text the guy she really likes, he'll show up at the bar, and she'll shut out the guy she went to the concert with.  He'll just slink off into the night without a showdown between himself and the guy she just invited out.  Such a woman is all about humiliating nice guys and yes, they are out there. 

All involved are idiots, so far as I'm concerned.  When a girl announces on Twitter that she has an extra ticket for some concert or event, just ignore it.  She will go with the most desperate of her twitter followers to the concert, let him think he's got some sort of chance, then suggest they go to a bar afterward.  On the drive over she'll text the guy she really likes, he'll show up at the bar, and she'll shut out the guy she went to the concert with.  He'll just slink off into the night without a showdown between himself and the guy she just invited out.  Such a woman is all about humiliating nice guys and yes, they are out there. 

 

Thank God I'm gay and over 40!

All involved are idiots, so far as I'm concerned.  When a girl announces on Twitter that she has an extra ticket for some concert or event, just ignore it.  She will go with the most desperate of her twitter followers to the concert, let him think he's got some sort of chance, then suggest they go to a bar afterward.  On the drive over she'll text the guy she really likes, he'll show up at the bar, and she'll shut out the guy she went to the concert with.  He'll just slink off into the night without a showdown between himself and the guy she just invited out.  Such a woman is all about humiliating nice guys and yes, they are out there. 

 

Your life is like an episode of one of those MTV quasi-reality shows

Yeah, why don't you go trawling for Russian babes like a normal guy?!?!

Salsa dancing at Ceviche in Woodmere on Friday nights. Probably the best way to meet single women, and attractive ones no less, of different ages. Hell, it's a great place just to make friends.

 

But you gotta grow a pair and ask them to dance. YouTube shows how to do the basics, so there's no excuse.

Salsa dancing at Ceviche in Woodmere on Friday nights. Probably the best way to meet single women, and attractive ones no less, of different ages. Hell, it's a great place just to make friends.

 

But you gotta grow a pair and ask them to dance. YouTube shows how to do the basics, so there's no excuse.

If you want to call that Salsa!

Outside of specific immigrant groups, dancing is generally a lost art in the United States.  Who is to blame?  To large extent it is the DJ's at bars, dances, etc..  I think the ubiquity of rap at these places came about because gangster rap, as a style, became the soundtrack of the self-imagined alpha male (former high school athlete) and the women who love them.  It starts with the high school dance DJ's, and continues even with wedding DJ's.  Last month at my cousin's wedding, the DJ played 50 Cent.  How did he think that was appropriate with a bunch of (white!) grandma's and kids around? 

I work a lot of weddings and other parties.  It's amazing watching people flow to the dance floor when something other than rap is played, and away from it when the rap comes on.  But DJ's will not be dissuaded!  Rap it must be!

^I recently went to a wedding in Scottsdale, AZ - honestly the only people dancing were older than 30; the younger kids were just "too cool for school" even though the DJ played a good variety.

 

But then knowing there was family from Cleveland, he put on this

and just one couple in their late 60s came onto the dance floor, but everyone else circled around (including the "too cool" kids) and started clapping along while they tore it up. I'm half their age and I couldn't manage the footwork they did even if I tried it half-tempo!

 

 

I do think dance is making a resurgence, with the popularity of shows like DWTS and So You Think You Can Dance. DWTS has had 7 or 8 seasons now and is one of the most popular shows on TV. The touring shows generally sells out and I think there are a lot more dance classes being offered in towns now because of it. Look at those videos on youtube of bridal parties dancing in to the wedding and flash mobs and stuff like that, I think those reflect an increased popularity in dance. I am hopeful. And if he's the LEAST bit interested, I will be enrolling little RNR in some type of dance classes as soon as he's old enough.

Just from my own experience, there tends to be a TON of teens at swing dance lessons/free dance (I go about once or month or so in Chagrin Falls/Bainbridge or Slavic Village). It's not a very good place to meet people unless you're an adolescent, but there are people in their 20s-60s as well.

 

Salsa dancing, as I've said above, is the easiest place to meet people. Ceviche in Woodmere and Fortress downtown are great venues for that, though you need to make sure you're at those places on the right nights.

 

Tango (where La Boca used to be and...some place on W6. The name escapes me) tended to have a smaller number of people and mostly pairs. Not a great place to meet people.

 

 

According to my little cousin who is in 6th grade they are having swing dance lessons in school and it is quite popular. 

^ They need to bring back square dancing in middle school. Nothing enhanced the awkwardness of male female teenage interactions like the do-si-do.

^I recently went to a wedding in Scottsdale, AZ - honestly the only people dancing were older than 30; the younger kids were just "too cool for school" even though the DJ played a good variety.

 

But then knowing there was family from Cleveland, he put on this

and just one couple in their late 60s came onto the dance floor, but everyone else circled around (including the "too cool" kids) and started clapping along while they tore it up. I'm half their age and I couldn't manage the footwork they did even if I tried it half-tempo!

I took accordion lessons from about age 10 until after high school, thoroughly affirming my status as a dork long before urban internet sites came along. I started out with a teacher/music store owner in Berne, Indiana, a Swiss-heritage community, who could put on a dazzling performance with both Italian (keys on the right, buttons on the left) and Swiss (buttons on both sides) accordions. I could only hope to rip out a polka the way my last teacher could. He was a rather dissipated middle-aged guy whose constant output of cigarette smoke maintained a haze in the tiny rented studio in the basement of a downtown Fort Wayne music store. His fingers danced on the keyboard as though they were having the time of their lives. I haven't played in at least forty years.

 

^ They need to bring back square dancing in middle school. Nothing enhanced the awkwardness of male female teenage interactions like the do-si-do.

Square dancing probably was one of my favorite activities at the annual week-long 4-H camp in my early teens. It was a great leveling factor in the jock-oriented culture where I grew up, a non-competitive activity where the rest of us could participate and have fun.

 

 

Question for ya'll....what does one do when they meet someone, have a great connection with them, only to find out that they still have their "V-card"?

Question for ya'll....what does one do when they meet someone, have a great connection with them, only to find out that they still have their "V-card"?

 

De-flower them.

^Isn't that a lot of pressure though?

^Isn't that a lot of pressure though?

 

Depends on the position.

^Isn't that a lot of pressure though?

 

Depends on the position.

 

:roll:

Question for ya'll....what does one do when they meet someone, have a great connection with them, only to find out that they still have their "V-card"?

 

It depends on why.  If they are "saving themselves" for the right person, that may be unacceptable for you.  If they have just been unlucky in love, then they might be ready for "defloration."

Joking aside, JRC is right. If they have a specific reason (religious, moral, etc.) then you need to be comfortable with that. That said, I was a late bloomer, and sometimes you just get caught up doing other things with your life, and knockin' boots just kind of falls to back of the line in importance. In that case, I doubt there's any pressure.

From what this person has told me, it just hasn't "happened" yet.  He's definitely interested.  He just seems socially awkward, especially around women.  I just need to take it slow and see what happens I guess.

A friend of my wife's who's about my age (late 30's) met a guy who was 'socially awkward' and hit it off with him. He had some odd habits (i.e. wouldn't initiate a kiss, was very hesitant to call her first, didn't know the typical dating conventions) but they had a lot of similar interests and she seemed to like him.

 

Well, long story short, she finally cracked the outer shell and opened up Pandora's box. Turned out he was a major perv, and started asking her if she would be into all kinds of crazy stuff, obsessing about sex non-stop. It dominated their conversations thereafter. Completely creeped her out.

 

So, on second thought, maybe hold off on the deflowering until you know what you're dealing with.

Keep in mind that some guys will falsely claim to be virgins because they think it will help them get laid..  Girls do this too, but usually for different reasons.  Not saying this is the case with your guy, but you have to admit you're intrigued ;)

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/confessions-how-she-made-1200-a-month-using-matchcom-2011-11

 

This Young Woman Scored $1,200 A Month In Fancy Dinners Using Match.com

 

 

A young New Yorker we'll call Minerva McGonagall* was tired of dipping into her savings to keep up with her Manhattan lifestyle.

 

Her $45k salary was not enough and she needed at least an extra $500 a month and sometimes $1,000 to pay her credit card bills and afford her $1,475 a month apartment in Murray Hill.

 

Then she discovered Match.com– the perfect site for a broke 23-year-old. 

 

Lots of girls go on a few dates for free meals/drinks. Hell, I know some who go to the Viagra Triangle who compete with each other over 'how many drinks will a guy buy me' every weekend.

 

Let's face it. If you're an attractive single (if that even matters) lady, you can get a lot of freebies in life.

what's viagra triangle?

An area by Chicago's Gold Coast that is notorious for rich old guys hitting on young (18 or over, of course) girls in expensive restaurants and bars. It's almost like a reality show.

what's viagra triangle?

 

I heard the Cleveland version of it is westlake, along detroit [clague and crocker].

 

 

Its everywhere in most cities.  Why do you guys think hotels changed their lobby's into "social" rooms?

Hey, ladies, if you're looking for Mr. Right, this guy is apparently  back on the market! Just remember to call him or return his texts

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/n1bqg/an_investment_bankers_cover_letter_for_a_second/

Hey, ladies, if you're looking for Mr. Right, this guy is apparently  back on the market! Just remember to call him or return his texts

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/n1bqg/an_investment_bankers_cover_letter_for_a_second/

He seems Cray-Cray!

The strangest thing about that e-mail was the constant redundancies.  It makes it seem even more obsessive than it already would have otherwise.

Hey, ladies, if you're looking for Mr. Right, this guy is apparently  back on the market! Just remember to call him or return his texts

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/n1bqg/an_investment_bankers_cover_letter_for_a_second/

 

This has been making the rounds. I can't defend this guy because he seems like a spoiled asshole who is nuts, but I will say that both genders are getting much worse when it comes to dating. This is a long trend relating to the extension of the drunken 20-something hook-up lifestyle and adultolescence. No one just says "I don't want to see you anymore." Nowadays, you just don't answer texts or phone calls. It's sort of like the decline of the rejection letter, and the uncertainty that has bred in the job market. It is actually better to have closure, for both men and women. It makes things easier and leads to less wasted time.

 

With that said, I think this might be his problem: Well, I’ve done very well as an investment manager. I’ve made my parents several millions of dollars. That’s real money. That’s not monopoly money.

 

Even hot gold diggers don't want to talk money on a first date, at least not to that boasting degree. Most guys who have money show it, but don't talk about it. The best rule of thumb is to never talk about money unless asked. And if someone asks, respond, "Does it matter?" Men generally never care how much money a woman makes but you do meet some women who care how much money a man makes (it sounds like this guy has met more than his fair share).

 

Nowadays, there is just a very simple rule in dating, if a broad (or chav) doesn't get back to you after a text message or phone call, just end it. There rarely is a good reason other than they're not interested. People only respond when they're interested. There is no "I don't want to see you again." Communication has gone to hell. You can't expect it from anyone.

 

What really makes this bad is that this is a series of messages, not just one message. He should have cut his losses after one unreplied message.

This is even better:

 

http://www.holytaco.com/the-douchiest-phone-message-in-history/

There is no "I don't want to see you again."

 

There rarely ever was.  Swingers - with the most awkward dating VM ever - was released >15 years ago.