My current law firm is Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe!

 

 

 

Sounds like the name mirrors your political party ;)

 

My current law firm is Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe!

 

 

 

Sounds like the name mirrors your political party ;)

 

 

No, I'm not a Democrat!  :wink2:

 

But, can you name the source?

Who says this is a married town? Cleveland's most eligible singles are unattached, undaunted

Posted by jfsweene June 06, 2008 03:00AM

 

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See an old friend here? Want to make a new friend? If you'd like to contact one of the people featured in this story, send an e-mail to [email protected], and we'll forward appropriate messages.

 

Cleveland is known for its married-with-kids neighborhoods, but plenty of vibrant singles live here, too -- having a wonderful time, doing important and fun things and helping the city be an interesting place.

 

We already knew that, but the hundreds of submissions we got for The Plain Dealer's Most Eligible Singles contest underscored it. We were overwhelmed by the quality of the people we heard from, either directly or via their friends and relatives. It was not easy to narrow them down to the group you see here...

 

 

FULL ARTICLE HERE: http://blog.cleveland.com/lifestyles/2008/06/post_3.html

and me!

They could have ad an Asian representative and an "out" gay/lesbian person.

They could have ad an Asian representative and an "out" gay/lesbian person.

 

Either way, that crap was fixed! Did you see the guys in in my bracket? (20s). Brother can't even keep razor burn bumps from the eye of the camera.

 

(and yes, I did enter).

They could have ad an Asian representative and an "out" gay/lesbian person.

 

Either way, that crap was fixed! Did you see the guys in in my bracket? (20s). Brother can't even keep razor burn bumps from the eye of the camera.

 

(and yes, I did enter).

 

Wait...Hold up.  Looking at the dudes spotlighted here - and as just a regular dude, by no means do I want to come accross judgemental - that you DID NOT make it.  I'm shocked!

Cruising through the articles, I get the vibe they were looking for people really community focused.

...and devoting a huge amount of time to UO is not?

...and devoting a huge amount of time to UO is not?

 

 

Actually that was mentioned in that section. (sans any asshat comments)

It seems that women, overall, no matter where you go, are a little more unapproachable than they use to be. I find that I do better acting like I'm not interested for a long time and eventually they wonder why I'm not interested and come on to me. But when I approach them, they put up a 20 foot brick wall. Also, most women I meet have been done wrong in the past and think that all men are naturally dogs. Then there are the women who say they want a good man but always end up with the bad boys and thugs. Finally, the women who are holding out for a Bill Gates. They seem to be under the false allusion that a man's money will make them happy. Most rich guys I know and I know plenty, are complete jerks to women.

Im glad women like @ssholes. Whenever one of my female friends come over I say ''make me a sammich b!tch! Roast beef, provolone, mayo, lettuce, and mustard''. She happily does it.

Im glad women like @ssholes. Whenever one of my female friends come over I say ''make me a sammich b!tch! Roast beef, provolone, mayo, lettuce, and mustard''. She happily does it.

 

Wow....

 

 

(and yes, I did enter).

 

How did you hear about it? This is the first I've heard of this. I would like to have entered, too.

Im glad women like @ssholes. Whenever one of my female friends come over I say ''make me a sammich b!tch! Roast beef, provolone, mayo, lettuce, and mustard''. She happily does it.

 

this is very interesting.  this very comment is exactly what i do not want in a relationship (nothing personal David).  i WILL gladly make my guy a sandwich (or:  fill in the blank) as long as it is not expected of me or demanded of me (and, therefore, i will not expect or demand anything of him).  having fun and acting dominant/submissive on occasion is a different story (and another topic altogether!!) but on a day-to-day-basis, life is a give and take.

 

It seems that women, overall, no matter where you go, are a little more unapproachable than they use to be. I find that I do better acting like I'm not interested for a long time and eventually they wonder why I'm not interested and come on to me. But when I approach them, they put up a 20 foot brick wall. Also, most women I meet have been done wrong in the past and think that all men are naturally dogs. Then there are the women who say they want a good man but always end up with the bad boys and thugs. Finally, the women who are holding out for a Bill Gates. They seem to be under the false allusion that a man's money will make them happy. Most rich guys I know and I know plenty, are complete jerks to women.

 

these women you're speaking of, are these women you meet in a bar or other social setting? 

 

IMO meeting people in these settings (although most common and probably most universally accepted) is part of the problem.  you're going in with expectations of how meeting someone should go and it never (or rarely) works out that way.  and i realize that most of the time we all are approaching people based on how they look but is that really what sustains in the long run?  sure, we all want someone who is attractive to us but maybe it's just me that i want someone who appeals to me intellectually (wrapped up in his character, his intellect, his views on life, religion, sexuality, his work ethic, etc) as well as visually.

 

meeting someone should just happen, not be forced to happen (not that it does, just ideally, IMO).

^ It's not just you.

 

I think one of the biggest problems with meeting people in Cleveland is it's hard to actually find single people. In a bigger city like New York, you can walk into a book store or museum and see lots of potentially eligible people, however around here the numbers are far smaller. Another problem is that Cleveland is provincial in a way, so people have networks of friends but unlike more dynamic areas, these networks don't grow or change in complexion, they stay the same, so a lot of times your friends aren't much help in meeting new people because you already know the people they know.

^ It's not just you.

 

I think one of the biggest problems with meeting people in Cleveland is it's hard to actually find single people. In a bigger city like New York, you can walk into a book store or museum and see lots of potentially eligible people, however around here the numbers are far smaller. Another problem is that Cleveland is provincial in a way, so people have networks of friends but unlike more dynamic areas, these networks don't grow or change in complexion, they stay the same, so a lot of times your friends aren't much help in meeting new people because you already know the people they know.

 

I don't think this is unique to Cleveland.

 

Im glad women like @ssholes. Whenever one of my female friends come over I say ''make me a sammich b!tch! Roast beef, provolone, mayo, lettuce, and mustard''. She happily does it.

You must know some women with low self esteem.  If you would say this to one of my female cousins or friends, you'd catch a beat down!

 

It seems that women, overall, no matter where you go, are a little more unapproachable than they use to be. I find that I do better acting like I'm not interested for a long time and eventually they wonder why I'm not interested and come on to me. But when I approach them, they put up a 20 foot brick wall. Also, most women I meet have been done wrong in the past and think that all men are naturally dogs. Then there are the women who say they want a good man but always end up with the bad boys and thugs. Finally, the women who are holding out for a Bill Gates. They seem to be under the false allusion that a man's money will make them happy. Most rich guys I know and I know plenty, are complete jerks to women.

 

Master, you're so on to something.  When I go out, I just stand or sit in the corner and enjoy the company I'm with.  Besides, this is not exclusive to women, men are just as fickle.

 

I don't approach people and never will. 

 

Some women are way to aggressive, and if I wasn't gay and what happened to me last weekend happened, I don't think I would be into that woman.  Just relax, all that touching and rubbing "the twins" on me isn't a turn on (it wouldn't be a turnon if I was straight).  It makes you look like a slut.  Same goes for men trying to grind up against every chick, or holding your crotch, you come accross desperate and horny.

 

I've been reading this thread today and it's a laugh! I think it's hard to meet a person any one of us would feel comfortable with and, hey, most of us have our own issues as well (don't get me started on my religious fanatic ex).

 

Someone here said there are differnces between cities and that's right on the money.

 

One thing I noticed was the culture shock I went thru when I moved to Columbus in search of work a few years ago. KJP will tell how frustrated I was when it came to the opposite sex here. If you think Cleveland is bad, come to Cowlumbus, where you have to be either a foamer Buckeyes fan, Jesus freak, country boy or all three, which is the ideal all good Columbusites should strive for.

 

To be sure, there ARE those who don't feel that way, who don't bleed scarlet and gray and are a bit more worldly than most of the folk here, but they are in the minority. You have to seek them out.

Im glad women like @ssholes. Whenever one of my female friends come over I say ''make me a sammich b!tch! Roast beef, provolone, mayo, lettuce, and mustard''. She happily does it.

 

this is very interesting.  this very comment is exactly what i do not want in a relationship (nothing personal David).  i WILL gladly make my guy a sandwich (or:  fill in the blank) as long as it is not expected of me or demanded of me (and, therefore, i will not expect or demand anything of him).  having fun and acting dominant/submissive on occasion is a different story (and another topic altogether!!) but on a day-to-day-basis, life is a give and take.

 

I was being sarcastic! I can't have fun on this forum  :-(

I want a strong independent woman who doesn't take sh!t from me or anybody!

^oops, sorry!!  anyway, good to know you're not like that! 

I posted that late on a Saturday night if that tells you anything  :drunk:

 

Most guys are intimidated by intelligent, opinionated, funny women. Those women are most likely to judge them and light a fire under their @sses whenever necessary. Men want someone who will laugh at THEIR stupid jokes, etc. On the other hand, there are still quite a few women who want a caveman to drag them into the cave by their hair. I find the whole think kind of pathetic in 2008. 

I posted that late on a Saturday night if that tells you anything  :drunk:

 

Most guys are intimidated by intelligent, opinionated, funny women. Those women are most likely to judge them and light a fire under their @sses whenever necessary. Men want someone who will laugh at THEIR stupid jokes, etc. On the other hand, there are still quite a few women who want a caveman to drag them into the cave by their hair. I find the whole think kind of pathetic in 2008. 

 

David, I don't that's true.  It might be true for the women in your age/social circle but not all.  I think you're trying to equate you dating experiences and generalizing.

Of course it's generalizing, but... Nope!

come on what are you guys 19, 20, 22??? so jaded. Babes, little babes. I think it is sort of cute though. But not in a Mrs Robinson way. and I know you all don't even know what that means. :wink:

 

 

21 (going on 50), but the stuff I hear KJP say and the stuff Master says on here and in his blog are no different than the things guys my age say.

no, but you guys have not been kicked around yet by 20 or so years by a thing called life.

I think you're gonna have to elaborate a little more because all I get from 'kicked around by twenty or so years of life' is that the aging process does a number on women who were once beautiful spoiled twenty somethings who now get little attention and end up offering to buy me drinks at bars  :angel:

what I meant was if you think you are jaded now, just wait. I really was not commenting about men or women- we All take a beating with the aging process. I am not really jaded myself by the way, but of course that could change

Me, an intense, passionate, sexual being that is a Scorpio, jaded?! NEVER.

I have nothing leefft tooo giivveee

I've said that many times already in my 21 years of living. Mostly out of self pity and spells of depression :-)

you're like mini MTS

MTS can't rock kenneth Cole like I can

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Some women just can't believe that there are men out there that literally aren't turned on by them. They're so narcissistic that they think they must be gay in that case.

MTS can't rock kenneth Cole like I can

 

You got that right!  You can best believe I never will!

C-Dawg, you have just scared the heck out of any man with daughters...I am not Mr. Innocent, but your stories are simply terrrifying.

come on what are you guys 19, 20, 22??? so jaded.

 

I'm 23. My experience is pretty rare and unheard of though. When you can't get anything because of how ugly you are, you really see people's true colors. I'll be jaded for life, no doubt about it. And I'll never trust anyone. Most people haven't experienced anything remotely close to what I went through. When you're getting in medical journals for the worst cases of cystic acne and your skin is constantly bleeding out, you've got no hope whatsoever of living a normal life.

 

Still, our generation is a hell of a lot different from any generation before. There are very simple reasons for this.

 

1. Cell phones. Never before have late night booty calls been so easy. Everyone has a cell phone. Most people use them. The hook-up culture makes you value partners as just that- someone you're having sex with, nothing more, nothing less. There's no trust, no loyalty, no honesty. You get drunk and you screw. It's that simple.

 

2. Internet. It can reduce emotional attachments and results in more aquaintances than real friends. It also has completely fueled the porn industry which recently overtook Hollywood as America's largest entertainment industry. Porn ideals have had an influence on most guys my age, no doubt about it. Girls are viewed more completely as sex objects than ever before. There has been a massive feminist backlash in recent years. Far more people my age know who Raven Riley is than Gloria Steinem. Feminism is effectively dead, and most girls my age don't give a damn.

 

3. HPV vaccine. The most common STD is now curable. Sure, you still have to worry about Herpes and HIV, but now there are only two incurable H's, not three. Girls also no longer have the cervical cancer worry.

 

4. Hugely increased number of young people enrolled in four-year universities. College in America has always been viewed a time to sleep around, but never before in history has it been so easy. See  number 1.

 

5. Increased sexual literacy. Never before have there been so many sex magazines, sex websites, sex whatever than there is now (and a lot of them have bad information). Kids think they know everything by junior high, sometimes much earlier. Girls get on birth control much younger (as they should) and people are literally maturing younger than ever. The average age that puberty starts is three years earlier than it was in 1950. We're growing up faster. Physical/sexual maturity comes way before mental maturity. You've basically got a bunch of kids with full sexual drive by the time they're 13-years-old. They don't even understand the risks of sex at that age. We've got rampant "abstinence only" sex education in our schools that is making kids turn to other sources for information. These other sources are their friends or the internet, both which are wrought with lies and false information. The last place a 13-year-old should be looking for information about sex is from another 13-year-old. In my generation, that's the way it worked for us, or worse.

 

6. September 11th, war in Iraq, impending environmental doom, suburban hell, oil dependency. There's a great fear that you can die a horrible death without seeing it coming. There's also less hope for the future than in past generations. All this bad news is hitting at the same time, and when you're young, it can completely change your outlook on life. Many kids today don't feel optimistic about the future, so they figure they might as well sleep around as much as they can now. This nation could come crashing down at any moment. We're in a very fragile position and our leaders have made horrible decisions almost ensuring our doom.

 

Many people on the board lived through the late '60s, '70s and '80s (up 'til C. Everett Coop spread a bunch of lies about AIDS), and can tell you that there was way more casual sex going on back then than today.

26 going on 14 here and I still stand by my original post.  It's hard as hell dating someone in Cleveland. 

 

 

"Still, our generation is a hell of a lot different from any generation before.

 

Many people on the board lived through the late '60s, '70s and '80s (up 'til C. Everett Coop spread a bunch of lies about AIDS), and can tell you that there was way more casual sex going on back then than today.   "

 

Yup, every generation thinks theirs invented angst, love and sex.

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Yes, this is ripped off directly from the Dating in Cleveland thread. Just curious how others are finding it here. My goal for my 26th birthday was to be in a relationship within 6 months. I'm nowhere nearer than I was before. I'm not much of a bar guy and even less of a clubbing guy. When I do go to bars I usually just go to hang out and have a beer or two either by myself or with friends, since everyone else goes to bars with a circle of friends, never solo. There doesn't seem to be a bar that fits me. It's easy to rule out places, such as OSU since I find drunk college students offensive. Though Larry's was rumored back in the day to be a gay bar so that intellectuals could have it as their gathering place. If that were ever true, it doesn't take much to notice it's become just another campus bar. Carabar is always good for a change, but I'm a quasi-hipster at best and not into that scene or any scene really. Tip Top is always a good place, being very diverse with a nice vibe, but like any other bar the same aforementioned phenomena occurs. The Arena District is overrun with the same crowd as OSU with a change of clothes. The Short North is for yuppies. The Brewery District/German Village has an older crowd. Washington Beach has some cool spots for the alternative crowd, though I wouldn't go out with someone covered with tattoos, brightly dyed hair, piercings, well you get the idea. I'd be happy with the thinking man's bar, like what Larry's was once rumored to be, but not the kind where people are just there to outsmart each other and show off.

 

I'm partial to coffeeshops, but they don't seem to be very conducive to dating. Which reminds me of an article on brain-drain in Columbus and a guy who moved to DC that stated one of the reasons he left, and it was an important factor for him, was that there are no late-night coffeeshops in Columbus (I love Buckeye Donuts, but that's no coffeeshop), however there are in DC. Maybe I need a late-night coffeeshop kinda city, as it's not very uncommon for me to rack my brain trying to figure out where to go out, while at the same time I would know if a couple of these places were open at night. I'm sure others have had better luck here.

The Short North is definitely for yuppies but it seems to me that it is the best place to meet people if you're gay. There's so many gay restaurants there; why don't you patronize those places and hit on some waiters or hang out at the bar area and talk to some people? I'm kinda in the same boat, but as a straight guy. I don't like meeting girls at parties or bars because of how people act in thier drunken state; you don't really get to know who they really are but it seems like that's the only easy way to hook up or meet people. People go to coffee shops and hookah bars to hang out with their specific group of friends. On occasion I've met other people but it's not as easy as it is in bars.

Seeing what a great place Columbus is for dating makes me so glad to be married with kids.

Why do you young, attractive folks have so many problems? 

 

Maybe you kids are "trying to hard".  :|

The girl I was talking and mentioned in the Off topic thread moved to Dayton for the summer :( D@MIT! Hope I have some luck in Columbus.

 

I don't think we're trying to hard, I know from personal experience after my gf cheated on me with multiple guys I was apathetic for a long time, it didn't exactly bring forth any opportunities.

 

Seeing what a great place Columbus is for dating makes me so glad to be married with kids.

 

From my experience, Columbus is great for dating; there seems to be a lot more transplants and in my age group, most of the college students are from other places whereas people at UC are just going through the 13th-19th grade in the same town with their same old friends. OSU is much better in that regard. But yeah, you're living the dream and you happy people suck :)

Dating should be pretty good in Columbus being it's the 2nd most sexually satisfied city in the US. :-P

 

http://www.menshealth.com/metrogrades/08_apr_sex/

^ Seems like a lie. Everybody knows that East and West Coast women are way more forward than Midwestern ones.

I see endless young workout-intensive yuppie chicks around in Columbus, but where do the interesting girls hang out?

    This is a fascinating conversation. While college for me wasn't a non-stop f**k fest, it's kind of hard to engage in that at a Jesuit university. I did ok in my early 20's post-college, but I'm 31 now and engaged....and happy to be leaving my 'hunting' days behind.

    And just for the record, based on my own 'research' and observations, C-dawg's take is right on the money.

 

it's mens health.  I mean, come on!

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It certainly gets harder to play the drunken hook-up game the longer you're out of college, that's for sure. You actually need some humor and wit to meet people or your hookup's are going to be few and far between, a 'sexual camel' so-to-speak. :laugh: