impressive photo shared by University Circle Inc. on FB: https://www.facebook.com/universitycircle/photos/a.58156479865/10160083948059866/

Good job. That's also the photo I'm using for my  next article!

Did they cut out the downtown skyline?  Looks odd.

16 minutes ago, Jenny said:

Did they cut out the downtown skyline?  Looks odd.

This is past where Euclid ave makes the northeast turn. So from that alignment, we are looking southwest of downtown. The ridge in the background is probably the Parma, Seven Hills area

Remember when it was just sh*tty parking lots and a scary McDonalds?

1 hour ago, gruver said:

Remember when it was just sh*tty parking lots and a scary McDonalds?

I mean, I wouldn’t have called that McDonalds scary, but it definitely was depressing and I fully agree with the rest of this sentiment. That was the UC of my college years (1996-2001). Those parking lots were so bad! It’s so incredible how transformed that entire area is. 

So I don’t really remember. Anyone have picture of before all of this development?

1 hour ago, JB said:

So I don’t really remember. Anyone have picture of before all of this development?

 

These are from google street view, same spots, just ~12-14 years apart:

 

 

^Those old street views may make it look bad, but it was considerably worse than those pictures look. Ha. 

Those streetview images are remarkable!  How soon we forget!  I honestly don't remember it looking that bad.  Almost had a Youngstown vibe to it.

On 9/19/2022 at 5:36 PM, shack said:

impressive photo shared by University Circle Inc. on FB: https://www.facebook.com/universitycircle/photos/a.58156479865/10160083948059866/

 

Matt Lance does a GREAT job.   He doesn't have much of a following yet on Twitter, but I suspect he will soon once people discover his work.  

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/lance_aerial

 

Edited September 21, 20222 yr by MuRrAy HiLL

That’s insane. What a complete turnaround.

To be honest, I didn't feel like anything was wrong with the old view (even though I enjoy it even more so now).  I still remember the McDonald's, Recruiting station, Little Caesers and the Mr. Hero being in UC.  Go back a little further, I still remember the old health museum and the shopping center that had the donut shop, pick-n-pay and Rite Aid being in the area.

1 minute ago, superior said:

To be honest, I didn't feel like anything was wrong with the old view (even though I enjoy it even more so now).  I still remember the McDonald's, Recruiting station, Little Caesers and the Mr. Hero being in UC.  Go back a little further, I still remember the old health museum and the shopping center that had the donut shop, pick-n-pay and Rite Aid being in the area.

I remember going to the MCDonald's or Mr. Hero before Euclid Tavern shows.  But those parking lots were depressing. 

4 hours ago, freefourur said:

I remember going to the MCDonald's or Mr. Hero before Euclid Tavern shows.  But those parking lots were depressing. 

I agree about the parking lots.

Next time there is a debate wether Uptown has been a success, be sure to share the before and after pics take above!   

What came before The Triangle and MOCA.

I think there's no question the design of Uptown is a huge success. If the use of Uptown was as successful then we would have a home run. I do think with all the new additions to UC it is only a matter of time before the usage picks up too. 

2 hours ago, Barneyboy said:

What came before The Triangle and MOCA.

 

Hey now!   Im guessing 16 cents per gallon!  ( that's odd.  They don't even have a "cents" symbol on keyboards anymore. Wonder why?  😉) 

Developer of Cleveland Meijer store, facing rising construction costs, to receive more public money

 

"CLEVELAND, Ohio – The developer behind a Meijer grocery store and apartments near Cleveland Clinic’s main campus is set to receive a $1.5 million loan from the city of Cleveland to cover a financing gap brought on by rising construction costs.

A City Council committee approved the loan Monday for Orange-based Fairmount Properties, which in December started building the project that includes a 40,000 square foot grocery store, about 200 apartments, and parking at a 2.9-acre site at East 105th Street and Cedar Avenue, near the newly-completed Opportunity Corridor....."

 

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022/10/developer-of-cleveland-meijer-store-facing-rising-construction-costs-to-receive-more-public-money.html

Welp today I learned that a construction project doesn't get their material purchases under contract before they start building. I always assumed they sort of pre-purchase most of the supplies.

You used to be able to get materials and subcontractor contracts for projects set about a year in advance. Now I'm hearing that no one is doing contracts for jobs more than six months in advance and sometimes for even less. Unless you're printing money like MCPc (Westinghouse owner) seems to be doing, you need public subsidies like the TMUD. And for true megaprojects like Bridgeworks or Circle Square (aka future phases thereof), they really need the TMUD or they aren't going to happen, barring a depression that craters prices (and wipes out financing/fluidity).

3 hours ago, jcw92 said:

Developer of Cleveland Meijer store, facing rising construction costs, to receive more public money

 

"CLEVELAND, Ohio – The developer behind a Meijer grocery store and apartments near Cleveland Clinic’s main campus is set to receive a $1.5 million loan from the city of Cleveland to cover a financing gap brought on by rising construction costs.

A City Council committee approved the loan Monday for Orange-based Fairmount Properties, which in December started building the project that includes a 40,000 square foot grocery store, about 200 apartments, and parking at a 2.9-acre site at East 105th Street and Cedar Avenue, near the newly-completed Opportunity Corridor....."

 

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022/10/developer-of-cleveland-meijer-store-facing-rising-construction-costs-to-receive-more-public-money.html

 

This made me look into the funding mechanism for the loan last night, kind of unique how Cleveland does it. 

 

Someone correct me if I'm getting this mixed up, but the UDAG (Urban Development Action Grant) is provided by HUD and instead of giving the grants directly to a project Cleveland will loan out of the grant fund and then apply interest towards smaller projects - kind of a win win (in theory). The UDAG is tied directly to job creation (the application said this would create 40 new jobs) as are the projects that come from UDAG interest payments.

 

I'm not a RE writer or genius over here but this is where an hour of googling got me please chime in if I got something wrong.

On 10/4/2022 at 2:38 PM, dwolfi01 said:

Welp today I learned that a construction project doesn't get their material purchases under contract before they start building. I always assumed they sort of pre-purchase most of the supplies.

The situation is just completely in flux as far as materials are concerned. Suppliers used to issue a guaranteed cost for a specific time frame, generally to the completion date of the project. Right now, suppliers will give you a price quote that’s “good” for 30 days, but won’t actually bill until the materials are shipped. If the price is higher at that point, sorry about your luck! 

The rapidly (and I mean rapidly) rising Aura at Innovation Square project just south of the also in-progress Meijer’s apartment project.

 

View is looking east towards East 105th.

Meijers progress

Edited October 27, 20222 yr by MrR

We need more buildings that are taller than the nearest parking decks.

Or else build parking decks that don't look like parking decks.

I'm with you there. How hard is it to commission some painters and at least make the exterior look interesting. 

 

It's not all that hard. They do it in other cities all the time.

Even the Cle Clinc has done it---on two (not four) sides of the parking garage on the NW corner of 93 and Euclid. They wrapped two sides in offices. for other locations they couldn't bother making it look not like a typical parking garage.

 

16 hours ago, jcw92 said:

Even the Cle Clinc has done it---on two (not four) sides of the parking garage on the NW corner of 93 and Euclid. They wrapped two sides in offices. for other locations they couldn't bother making it look not like a typical parking garage.

It always cracks me up that the Clinic's Bioethics Center is in that garage.   And I mean IN THE GARAGE.  It is an interior office that abuts the parking spaces. 

^Hmmmm.....hope that doesn't suggest what they really feel about bioethics!

From UH

 

My sister was in a 6th Floor room in the UH Seidman Cancer Center (they use rooms in that wing for general surgery stays) facing west and the views of University Circle and downtown are incredible.  At least I enjoyed them.  She was just moaning a lot in the bed and could care less.

3 hours ago, Htsguy said:

My sister was in a 6th Floor room in the UH Seidman Cancer Center (they use rooms in that wing for general surgery stays) facing west and the views of University Circle and downtown are incredible.  At least I enjoyed them.  She was just moaning a lot in the bed and could care less.

 

Dark bro, real dark.

17 hours ago, Htsguy said:

My sister was in a 6th Floor room in the UH Seidman Cancer Center (they use rooms in that wing for general surgery stays) facing west and the views of University Circle and downtown are incredible.  At least I enjoyed them.  She was just moaning a lot in the bed and could care less.

 

I was in Euclid Hospital near the top a couple years back, the views were a silver lining and I have some pics somewhere.

Anyone been by Library Lofts lately?  There has been no news or pictures for several weeks.

7 hours ago, sooner said:

Anyone been by Library Lofts lately?  There has been no news or pictures for several weeks.

 

Still building. Tower crane coming soon.

I haven't seen this posted anywhere (but I could be wrong) but Hessler project got a redesign: https://thelandcle.org/stories/hessler-road-re-do-developer-back-at-it-with-six-3-bedroom-apartments/. Don't worry, the residents are still pushing back (they want to preserve the 'greenspace' aka a parking lot).

 

 

23 minutes ago, GISguy said:

I haven't seen this posted anywhere (but I could be wrong) but Hessler project got a redesign: https://thelandcle.org/stories/hessler-road-re-do-developer-back-at-it-with-six-3-bedroom-apartments/. Don't worry, the residents are still pushing back (they want to preserve the 'greenspace' aka a parking lot).

 

 

Not only that but the wise old souls on Landmarks kept blasting them because they connected the new construction to the older house on Ford.  They went round and round on this point and I think the owner's reps head was going to explode, especially after all they have been through to date and after providing the commission with a number of good reasons why this was done.  It was like talking to a wall as usual.

Are the Hassler folks still trying to preserve a detached garage?

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Are the Hassler folks still trying to preserve a detached garage?

 I saw (and like) what you did there.

20 minutes ago, Barneyboy said:

 I saw (and like) what you did there.

It really was a typo...but I'll pretend I was being clever. 

 

30 minutes ago, MuRrAy HiLL said:

 

Does anybody know who the developer is?  I haven't seen this demo before any of the commissions yet so I not sure this is a done deal.  Obviously don't know what the inside is like but the outside looks pretty solid.  Demo approval may be tough.

holy holly the hassled hessler design is very handsome. i couldn’t even imagine better, but i know how they are. i hope it gets built because it fits right in there like a glove. hang tough developer!!

I love this thread on Joyce’s efforts to engage the Hessler nimby’s and getting dragged for it. She’s classy and respectful. Laura is not. 
 

 

Looks pretty d@mn good to me

 

Edited January 15, 20232 yr by MuRrAy HiLL

 was curious following the link in the in the article and these NIMBYers got them down from 23 units to 6 and they are still not happy lol.