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  • NorthShore64
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    Views from Seidman and Lakeside buildings at UH from this past week. Four cranes outside of downtown in one shot. Possibly joined by the East Stokes crane before work is finished at the innovation dis

  • View from my grandma's assisted living bedroom shows off a metropolis side of Cleveland: University Circle cranes with Downtown in the background.  

  • NorthShore64
    NorthShore64

    Doan Brook Restoration and the Smith Family Gateway (Mon. 10-26-20)                    

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Nice!  Thanks for the updates! 

Ooooooo pretty!!  :banger:

Cleveland's so cute!

Nice job Mayday! We might see a 5th crane go up if the VA starts it's next project before any of these crane's come down, although I suspect the VA and UH one's may be topped out real soon.

For the first time in my life, I believe, there are 4 construction crane's in the sky at once in Cleveland, all in University Circle!

 

You're forgetting the cranes downtown at CSU.

 

Thanks for all the great pics, MayDay!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I don't like these modern townhomes (especially the Circle 118 design).... at all.  Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the residential development on those lots and I can appreciate the interior designs, I just hate the exterior style I am seeing everywhere (here, AD, Battery Park).  I don't think the designs are "timeless" like a brownstone and IMHO everyone will be scratching their heads in a decade or two.

I don't like these modern townhomes (especially the Circle 118 design).... at all.  Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the residential development on those lots and I can appreciate the interior designs, I just hate the exterior style I am seeing everywhere (here, AD, Battery Park).  I don't think the designs are "timeless" like a brownstone and IMHO everyone will be scratching their heads in a decade or two.

 

Im with you, however, it's like other projects, you get the ball rolling and the next project improves upon the last. 

 

Again, if I was the developer, I would be building more clasic townhomes with no garages.

I don't like these modern townhomes (especially the Circle 118 design).... at all. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the residential development on those lots and I can appreciate the interior designs, I just hate the exterior style I am seeing everywhere (here, AD, Battery Park). I don't think the designs are "timeless" like a brownstone and IMHO everyone will be scratching their heads in a decade or two.

 

Im with you, however, it's like other projects, you get the ball rolling and the next project improves upon the last.

 

Again, if I was the developer, I would be building more clasic townhomes with no garages.

 

Agreed.  Don't get me wrong, I am all in favor of the projects being build no matter whether I find them ugly or not.  Hell, I can barely even pick out a matching outfit, so you gotta take my design critiques with a grain of salt.

I don't like these modern townhomes (especially the Circle 118 design).... at all.  Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the residential development on those lots and I can appreciate the interior designs, I just hate the exterior style I am seeing everywhere (here, AD, Battery Park).  I don't think the designs are "timeless" like a brownstone and IMHO everyone will be scratching their heads in a decade or two.

 

Im with you, however, it's like other projects, you get the ball rolling and the next project improves upon the last. 

 

Again, if I was the developer, I would be building more clasic townhomes with no garages.

 

Agreed.  Don't get me wrong, I am all in favor of the projects being build no matter whether I find them ugly or not.  Hell, I can barely even pick out a matching outfit, so you gotta take my design critiques with a grain of salt.

 

Personally, I dont like new build projects, thats just me.  I like prewar stuff.  that's just me.  Having said that I can appreaciate some newer building like that project in cinci that schwart7 lives in.  I love the gargare doors, but can't stand the "open concept" of any of these new build project.

 

If you need help coordinating an outfit, we're he for you.  Just dont take any advice from Punch. he he he he

I don't like these modern townhomes (especially the Circle 118 design).... at all. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the residential development on those lots and I can appreciate the interior designs, I just hate the exterior style I am seeing everywhere (here, AD, Battery Park). I don't think the designs are "timeless" like a brownstone and IMHO everyone will be scratching their heads in a decade or two.

 

My first thought when I saw those pics was "Is that plywood?"  Remember when homes used to be made out of real materials?

I don't like these modern townhomes (especially the Circle 118 design).... at all.  Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the residential development on those lots and I can appreciate the interior designs, I just hate the exterior style I am seeing everywhere (here, AD, Battery Park).  I don't think the designs are "timeless" like a brownstone and IMHO everyone will be scratching their heads in a decade or two.

 

My first thought when I saw those pics was "Is that plywood?"  Remember when homes used to be made out of real materials?

AMEN!

I don't like these modern townhomes (especially the Circle 118 design).... at all. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the residential development on those lots and I can appreciate the interior designs, I just hate the exterior style I am seeing everywhere (here, AD, Battery Park). I don't think the designs are "timeless" like a brownstone and IMHO everyone will be scratching their heads in a decade or two.

 

My first thought when I saw those pics was "Is that plywood?" Remember when homes used to be made out of real materials?

 

It's actually OSB, which, in most cases is a step below plywood.  As far as we know, wood was the first building material, what did they used to build with?

Mud

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From Crains...looks like University Circle is getting a Doubletree.

 

"The former Tudor Arms Hotel at University Circle in Cleveland is becoming a Doubletree Hotel thanks to a $22 million renovation that developer MRN Ltd. of Cleveland is performing with help from the federal New Markets Tax Credit program."

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20091104/FREE/911049960

Not the most thrilling brand, but great to see this coming back to life.  Even if it is the last building in like a 5 block radius now.

Nice!  I was wondering about this building just recently, thinking that it would definitely make for a great hotel.

 

Things seem to be picking up...

 

Things seem to be picking up...

 

I hope so.

Cleveland.com also has an article about Tudor Arms becoming a DoubleTree Hotel: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2009/11/tudor_arms.html

 

- Maron family is restoring the property.  It's a $22 million project

- 154-room hotel

- Vintage swimming pool

- Wood-paneled lobby

- Space has been empty since 2007

- Will include a 2,500-square-foot restaurant facing Stokes Boulevard

- Restored ballrooms and event spaces on the second floor

- 25,000 square feet of offices on the third and fourth floors

- Hotel rooms on floors 5-11

- Hotel and restaurant should employ 75 people

 

^All great stuff.  This renovation is one that I'm looking forward to- I would imagine that the inside of this building is ornate.  A vintage swimming pool from 1931?  That HAS to look sweet.

Cleveland.com also has an article about Tudor Arms becoming a DoubleTree Hotel: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2009/11/tudor_arms.html

 

- Maron family is restoring the property.  It's a $22 million project

- 154-room hotel

- Vintage swimming pool

- Wood-paneled lobby

- Space has been empty since 2007

- Will include a 2,500-square-foot restaurant facing Stokes Boulevard

- Restored ballrooms and event spaces on the second floor

- 25,000 square feet of offices on the third and fourth floors

- Hotel rooms on floors 5-11

- Hotel and restaurant should employ 75 people

 

 

It should be a property with a grander brand (a historic westin).  A doubletree?  Ugh.  Hey, it's the first step and a major one in transforming the area.  Go Maron family!

There are so many Case parents who have to stay out on 271. This is so much better.

There are so many Case parents who have to stay out on 271. This is so much better.

 

This an the other hotel (aloft IIRC) will be an added plus and help make the area an overnight destination.

Where in UC is the other hotel going to be built?  Or is it another renovation?

^where the old hearing and speach science building is... Euclid and either Cornell or Abington.  Can't remember.

Thanks.  New construction I presume?

yup.

Euclid and Abington it is.  Right next to the new cancer hospital.  Nice.

Euclid and Abington it is. Right next to the new cancer hospital. Nice.

 

Abington? Cornell is next to the cancer hospital. Anyways, it would go on the surface lot that is behind the University East building (quizno's, chopstick)

I knew it was somewhere right around there  :)

Euclid and Abington it is. Right next to the new cancer hospital. Nice.

 

Abington? Cornell is next to the cancer hospital. Anyways, it would go on the surface lot that is behind the University East building (quizno's, chopstick)

 

OK.  I was just going off McCleveland's post that it would go on the site of the old Hearing and Speech building - which is on Euclid and Abington on a parcel immediately to the west of and abutting the the new cancer hospital.

That's right the old hearing and speech building is coming down for a cancer garden... correct?

 

I'm not exactly sure about the hotel but I do wanna say that it's going behind the Quizno's/Chopstick bldg...

There used to be a Howard Johnson's in the area that changed names.  So CWRU visitors didn't have too far to go.  The first floor was turned into a bar, the "Dirty Scalpel" with blood dripping off the sign.  The place had a bathtub full of peanuts in the shell (free) and I think a pitcher of beer was $2.50.  I used to go there for a beer after cross country practice.  Also, the fried clams were very good! I believe it was torn down.

Cleveland.com also has an article about Tudor Arms becoming a DoubleTree Hotel: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2009/11/tudor_arms.html

 

- Maron family is restoring the property.  It's a $22 million project

- 154-room hotel

- Vintage swimming pool

- Wood-paneled lobby

- Space has been empty since 2007

- Will include a 2,500-square-foot restaurant facing Stokes Boulevard

- Restored ballrooms and event spaces on the second floor

- 25,000 square feet of offices on the third and fourth floors

- Hotel rooms on floors 5-11

- Hotel and restaurant should employ 75 people

 

 

I would stay there just to be able to thoroughly tour the building. That pool has to be something amazing, like swimming in Roman baths!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^All great stuff.  This renovation is one that I'm looking forward to- I would imagine that the inside of this building is ornate.  A vintage swimming pool from 1931?  That HAS to look sweet.

 

People that have been in there said the areas (pool, ballrooms etc) are amazing.

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<a href="http://blog.cleveland.com/architecture/2010/01/hearing_speech_center_designed.html">  Cleveland Hearing & Speech Center designed by Bostwick Design Partnership is a plus for University Circle </a>

 

Buildings rarely tell stories in a literal sense, but the new Cleveland Hearing & Speech Center in University Circle comes close.

 

Shaped like a four-story cube with horizontal ribbon windows and bands of precast concrete that wrap the upper stories, the center at first glance is little more than an innocuous box, albeit one richly endowed with expansive areas of glass.

 

Look closer, however, and you see that the facades of the $11.3 million building, completed in October, are sculpted to resemble sound spectrograms, the basic analytical tools used to diagnose speech defects.

 

 

 

I visited the Hearing and Speech building when I was home in July and I have to say, I strongly disagree with Litt.  It is one of the ugliest buildings I have seen lately.  It is also poorly and cheaply constructed.  A huge disappointment.

What makes you think it is "poorly and cheaply constructed"?

One glance. 

 

If something looks poorly and cheaply constructed, yet isn't, one has to wonder why they went out of their way to make it look like that.

The facade panels are designed to emulate a sound wave.  Thus are different sizes and protrude from the building at different levels. It's the way it's supposed to look.  That doesn't make it "cheap".  Everyone has different opinion on aesthetics.  Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on the way something looks, that's what makes us individuals.  But just because someone personally doesn't like the appearance of something doesn't make it "cheaply constructed".

But one of the chief criticisms for this overall style is that it comes off looking cheap.  I recall that "sound wave" bit from when the renderings first came out, and I remember thinking "they better put a sign out front explaining all this, or people are gonna think they just used whatever remnants they had laying around... because that's what it looks like, sans explanation." 

 

And I can't believe critics are now saying that things are "richly endowed" with concrete and glass.  As illustrated, not everyone considers these to be rich endowments in any quantity.  Litt hated the Case dorms, I happen to love them.  I wish those were on Euclid instead of this.  Too jarring a contrast next to the Euclid Tavern. 

Hey, its a hospital building built up to the street.  It is a great addition for that fact alone.

There is actually a lot to like about this building.  It has a great interaction with Euclid.  The Parking is in the rear.  The glass lower floors allow for fantastic street level activization.  Excellent and vibrant signage.  At night I love the illumination from the glass stairwells.  Like I said, just because something isn't necessarily your "taste" doesn't mean it's bad or "cheap"... it's just not a style some people may like... And that's OK. Like I said, everyone has different tastes.  We can't confuse our personal aesthetic opinions as some sort of "fact".

There is actually a lot to like about this building.  It has a great interaction with Euclid.  The Parking is in the rear.  The glass lower floors allow for fantastic street level activization.  Excellent and vibrant signage.  At night I love the illumination from the glass stairwells.  Like I said, just because something isn't necessarily your "taste" doesn't mean it's bad or "cheap"... it's just not a style some people may like... And that's OK. Like I said, everyone has different tastes.  We can't confuse our personal aesthetic opinions as some sort of "fact".

 

No more calls....we have a winner!

But one of the chief criticisms for this overall style is that it comes off looking cheap. I recall that "sound wave" bit from when the renderings first came out, and I remember thinking "they better put a sign out front explaining all this, or people are gonna think they just used whatever remnants they had laying around... because that's what it looks like, sans explanation."

 

 

From just looking at the picture and knowing that this was hearing and speech center I could make out the sound waves.  And I never remember reading anyhting about that beofre so I don't think there would need to be a detailed description

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