Hey everyone else let's start jumping on and giving our senseless comments about something that could really make a differerence and cut short the people that are actually doing something to help the neighborhoods in Cleveland Yeah! So Urban of us all!

^If you're referring to MurrayHill pointing out some grossly inaccurate and outdated content on UCI's site as well as the site itself being unwieldy, I don't see that as cutting people short. If you want to talk about how "Urban" of us - why are "Driving Directions" prominently listed, but no mention of public transportation except for how to get to the visitor center? Go to this link and try to find information on Fund Development and Service http://www.universitycircle.org/uci/advocacy/fund-development There's a difference between cutting people short, and expecting so much better from a group like UCI - they're better than what's represented on their current site.

 

As far as the CircleWalk signage - I like the design I'm reminded of the 'Kodak Moment' plaques used at popular tourist sites.

^^If you're talking about the Circlewalk comments, you can clearly tell that they were joking, right? Chill out.  8-)

Absolutely! We're allowed to have fun!

MLK trickery?

 

Driving back from Coventry last week I noticed that the sign for MLK from Euclid is HUGE and easy to spot while driving. That's great, it's nice looking siganage. 

 

However, as many on here know, after you turn onto MLK (toward the shoreway) you need to make another right just to stay on MLK. If you continue straight you're then on another road. This would be fine, but the street sign for MLK for that sudden turn is much smaller and barely legible.

 

I didn't notice this because I don't need to see the street signs, but my friend was driving and she said that she always misses that turn.  Now I can see why lol.

 

Has anyone else experienced the same thing?

Ummm no I am not talking about the inaccuracy of the UCI site, I was refering to the Circlewalk signage.

^If you're referring to MurrayHill pointing out some grossly inaccurate and outdated content on UCI's site as well as the site itself being unwieldy, I don't see that as cutting people short. If you want to talk about how "Urban" of us - why are "Driving Directions" prominently listed, but no mention of public transportation except for how to get to the visitor center? Go to this link and try to find information on Fund Development and Service http://www.universitycircle.org/uci/advocacy/fund-development There's a difference between cutting people short, and expecting so much better from a group like UCI - they're better than what's represented on their current site.

 

As far as the CircleWalk signage - I like the design I'm reminded of the 'Kodak Moment' plaques used at popular tourist sites.

^^Thanks MayDay. 

 

1)  Here's the info on the Circle Walk addition if anyone has forgotten: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2010/12/university_circle_inc_aims_to.html

 

Personally, I see this as another way of unifying University Circle, including more potential spinoff of other collaborations. The way-finding signs that went in last year have done wonders -- the Circle Walkw ill now be a great interactive tool for people to learn what exists in University Circle.

 

2) Regarding the UCI site, I did receive and email back and they made the requested fixes.  BUT, I have found a few more factual errors and am compiling another list before I start bombarding them with more emails.

 

The old house on E. 115th that was home to the CWRU police and security services has been demolished. This is to make room for the New Circle Vistas maximum accessible housing development.  Then the tall brick building on Euclid Ave. that is currently Circle Vistas will be open for re-development. Win-win.

 

The old house on E. 115th that was home to the CWRU police and security services has been demolished. This is to make room for the New Circle Vistas maximum accessible housing development.  Then the tall brick building on Euclid Ave. that is currently Circle Vistas will be open for re-development. Win-win.

 

Wow...I completely missed that today as a went for my UC Saturday walk. 

 

Uptown next phase is hopefully moving along faster than expected as the proposal includes the redevelopment as you've mentioned (plus a brand new place for accessable housing people--a very good win-win indeed):

 

 

Looked like the UARD buildings were getting glass framing fronting the retail spaces, at least on the north side of Euclid.

I missed this article yesterday:

 

University Circle forges ahead: editorial

Published: Friday, November 25, 2011, 6:31 PM

By The Plain Dealer Editorial Board

 

This will be a busy weekend at University Circle as Clevelanders squeeze in a little culture between meals and show off the city's treasures to out-of-town guests. Next weekend brings the 18th annual Holiday CircleFest and the return of outdoor skating on Wade Oval.

 

But as important as those events are in terms of driving visitors to the Circle's museums and restaurants and reinforcing its status as a key tourism destination, they only scratch the surface of the district's importance.

 

The Circle's medical and educational institutions are huge and growing employers. According to University Circle Inc. President Chris Ronayne, the neighborhood has averaged 1,000 new jobs per year for the past five years, even in a massive recession.

 

The clustered creativity at University Circle is helping to define -- and, in some cases, to invent -- the region's future economy.

 

 

http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2011/11/university_circle_forges_ahead.html

MH: I hope you don't mind but I edited your post with the correct link to the rest of the editorial. The link you supplied redirected readers to the PD article about the high apartment rental occupancy rates downtown.

MH: I hope you don't mind but I edited your post with the correct link to the rest of the editorial. The link you supplied redirected readers to the PD article about the high apartment rental occupancy rates downtown.

 

^Don't mind at all!  Thanks.

 

 

Side note, the Hazel Dr Apartments, now known as Hazel 8, has created a website (well at least a place-holding one): http://www.hazel8.com/

 

Reminder that rendering can be found here: http://wxzdevelopment.com/hazel.htm

^LOL CSU should take note- THAT'S a much better project. Thanks for the links!

The "Montessori High School at University Circle" has recently expanded into a third mansion on Magnolia Dr., known as the Ferris House. 

 

Campus now includes:

 

- The Ferris House (Student Residences and Classrooms)

- The Otis House (Student Residences) (10923 Magnolia Drive, Cleveland) (built 1918)

- The Straub House (Main Classroom Building) (11025 Magnolia Drive, Cleveland) (built 1910)

 

 

btw, this school is frikin incredible...check out this video from their class trip:

 

 

And inside the school:

 

^LOL CSU should take note- THAT'S a much better project. Thanks for the links!

 

Agreed! Much more urban/dense than the CSU project on Chester.

^and just plain better looking.

I'll go going if anyone wants to sit with me.  NY Times must be stepping on his toes, so he needs to regain some normalcy. ;)

 

“Plain Dealer” architecture critic to discuss University Circle’s latest developments Dec. 2

Posted: November 30th, 2011 | Author: thedaily | Filed under: campuswide, events | No Comments »

 

Steve Litt, architecture critic at The Plain Dealer, will join the Public Affairs Discussion Group this week for a “University Circle Update.” The discussion will take place Dec. 2 from 12:30 to 1:30 p.m. in the Dampeer Room at Kelvin Smith Library.

 

The recent developments in University Circle—including the recently completed Seidman Cancer Center, the under-construction Museum of Contemporary Art and the planned Tinkham Veale University Center—will be plenty to discuss.

 

http://thedaily.case.edu/news/?p=4217

 

Reminder, this is today at 12:30 at CWRU.

 

Even more trickle down effect caused by University Circle:

 

"I see the growth happening in University Circle, and I want to tap into that," he says. "There are healthcare and technology professionals living in Cleveland Heights, and my goal is to drive business development opportunities here."

 

http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/devnews/meadowbrookdevelopment120111.aspx

Even more trickle down effect caused by University Circle:

 

"I see the growth happening in University Circle, and I want to tap into that," he says. "There are healthcare and technology professionals living in Cleveland Heights, and my goal is to drive business development opportunities here."

 

http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/devnews/meadowbrookdevelopment120111.aspx

 

Cedar-Lee seems a bit far to be marketed as a place for UC business spin-off benefits. I'm sure it can benefit, but it's not the best located spot in Cleveland Heights. To me, I would think the Cedar-Fairmount is a better area, and there's fair amount (OK, bad pun) of underutilized land at the top of Cedar Hill, in the vicinity of the intersection of Euclid Heights Boulevard.

Even more trickle down effect caused by University Circle:

 

"I see the growth happening in University Circle, and I want to tap into that," he says. "There are healthcare and technology professionals living in Cleveland Heights, and my goal is to drive business development opportunities here."

 

http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/devnews/meadowbrookdevelopment120111.aspx

 

Cedar-Lee seems a bit far to be marketed as a place for UC business spin-off benefits. I'm sure it can benefit, but it's not the best located spot in Cleveland Heights. To me, I would think the Cedar-Fairmount is a better area, and there's fair amount (OK, bad pun) of underutilized land at the top of Cedar Hill, in the vicinity of the intersection of Euclid Heights Boulevard.

 

^ According to this article, one interesting example is how most professors for the Montessori School relocated to Cleveland, and chose Cleveland Hts to live.

 

http://activerain.com/blogsview/733763/montessori-high-school-in-university-circle-

 

There's some influence, but I agree it's a fairly wide spread trickle down effect.  Either way, UC is helping all its surroundings areas, which is great for Cleveland as a whole.

I'll go going if anyone wants to sit with me.  NY Times must be stepping on his toes, so he needs to regain some normalcy. ;)

 

“Plain Dealer” architecture critic to discuss University Circle’s latest developments Dec. 2

Posted: November 30th, 2011 | Author: thedaily | Filed under: campuswide, events | No Comments »

 

Steve Litt, architecture critic at The Plain Dealer, will join the Public Affairs Discussion Group this week for a “University Circle Update.” The discussion will take place Dec. 2 from 12:30 to 1:30 p.m. in the Dampeer Room at Kelvin Smith Library.

 

The recent developments in University Circle—including the recently completed Seidman Cancer Center, the under-construction Museum of Contemporary Art and the planned Tinkham Veale University Center—will be plenty to discuss.

 

http://thedaily.case.edu/news/?p=4217

 

 

REMINDER -- this talk is today at 1230 at CWRU.

REMINDER -- this talk is today at 1230 at CWRU.

 

Oh, 12:30, perfect time...if you don't have a job

REMINDER -- this talk is today at 1230 at CWRU.

 

Oh, 12:30, perfect time...if you don't have a job

 

^ unless you use your lunch break!

 

Steven Litt:

 

RECAP

 

Litt talked a lot about "New-urbanism" and the return to early 20th century philosophies in terms of urban planning. He also discussed failed urban planning/renewal of the 1950's - 1990's.  Besides the obvious auto-centric aspects, he pointed to how architects and planners would focus on the pretty building itself, regardless of its urban surrounding.  Recent construction projects now focus more on how it interacts with the rest of its surroundings (kept using Uptown as the prime example for Cleveland), especially being more aware of the pedestrian -- a shift nationwide.

 

He predicts major economic spinoff and property value increases in and around University Circle within the next 5-10 years.  He even said, "effects will be felt as far as within a 2-mile radius."

 

Regarding specific projects:

 

- Uptown Project

      -- showpiece location of MOCA, which is key

      -- praised modern contemporary look on apartments

      -- praised architects (Farshid Moussavi, James Corner Field Operations, Stanley Saitowitz of Natoma Architects)

      -- praised courtyard/alley

      -- praised mixed-use and connecting University Circle as a whole

- Pedestrian Bridge

      -- Said the proposed S-shaped bridge would become the symbol for Case Western as it would so iconic

      -- very symbolic connected Rockefeller Park with the rest of UC (time when urban planning for the pedestrian with a pedestrian structure).

- Rapid Stations

      -- Stated the UC-Cedar station is funded and will begin construction next year

      -- Stated the Little Italy station still has zero funding, but is crucial for UC and Uptown

      -- Said he would never use the E.120-Euclid station since it is unsafe and poorly planned (damn...i use it everyday...)

- Tinkham Veale Student Center

      -- He is still undecided on his opinion of it -- impossible to decide by a few renderings

      -- says the building does not need to be a showpiece, a background building may in fact better and more interactive

- PBL Building (constructed 2002)

      -- absolutely hates (mentioned this about 3-4 times).  He claims it is one of Frank Gehry's worst buildings

      -- has a terrible location, terrible interaction with the street, "tries too hard while in a background location," and is not the iconic building of CWRU

- Seidman Cancer Center

      -- hates the facade material, "trying too hard look," lack of street interaction, general look compared to surrounding buildings hospital

- Euclid Corridor Healthline

      -- defended the project all regards (pointed to mostly federal funding creating a vein of new life and development)

- Opportunity Corridor

      -- Says Clinic has accounted for it and included it in its master plan

      -- the first leg will be constructed out of University Circle heading SE

      -- With current policy and fund allocations, he predicts this project is 10-15 years away from 100% completion. 

 

Favorite quote of the talk:

 

"By the time CIA consolidates its campus to Euclid Ave, its property at the Bellflower-East Blvd intersection will have become the most valuable piece of land in the State of Ohio."

^Thanks for the run-down!  I wonder if that means Litt has actually seen that mysterious Clinic Norman Foster master plan....  And I love your favorite quote too.

I was at the talk as well.

 

Interesting observation: the demographic seemed very old. Is this a reflection of the average age of the residents of UH if you control for students?

 

Another question. And this might apply to other development areas in Cleveland as well. It seems that most of these projects that are being planned have a lot support but funding seems to be the issue...an example is the CWRU bridge. Why can't the university and UCI seek the the financial support of a donor and name it after them?

Controlling for students doesn't leave much, at the moment.  I'm guessing most of the attendees you saw were orchestra donors from the hinterlands.  Nice of them to come, obviously, but it kinda illustrates a key problem.  University Circle doesn't yet have enough people living there, and it lacks the destination buzz among young people that the near west side currently enjoys.  Trends are all positive but that's where things still stand today.

 

Also nice to hear about the Opportunity Corridor moving forward.  That's been conspicuously quiet compared with all the West Shoreway noise, and I daresay it would have a much larger impact on the city and the region.  We need to get our secondary downtown connected to our primary transportation system.  I'm as transit-oriented as anybody, but we still have a ways to go before that becomes practical for much of the region's population.  Want street life to develop in University Circle?  Want it to become broadly relevant?  Then roll out the red carpet... or in this case, the concrete carpet.  That's something the near west side is able to offer, and frankly it works.  Until it's easier to get to, UC's market is somewhat limited to those with business in the immediate area, or those with ties to specific institutions there.   

I was at the talk as well.

 

Interesting observation: the demographic seemed very old. Is this a reflection of the average age of the residents of UH if you control for students?

 

Another question. And this might apply to other development areas in Cleveland as well. It seems that most of these projects that are being planned have a lot support but funding seems to be the issue...an example is the CWRU bridge. Why can't the university and UCI seek the the financial support of a donor and name it after them?

 

SNOD, do you remember the younger guy in the back who stood up and listed the storefronts going into Uptown, when Steven Litt didn't know?  That was me.

 

Agreed the average demographic was about 2 generations different than probably we to the West Blvd conversion meeting...average age attending....60+

MuRray Hill, I suspected it was you; at least someone from UO (with all that knowledge). I was the black guy siting close to the front. I really appreciated your response to the lady who was trying to downplay the who idea of having relatively cheap food options at Uptown.

 

It was nice having you there!

 

Agreed the average demographic was about 2 generations different than probably we to the West Blvd conversion meeting...average age attending....60+

 

Sounds like what you'd get with a 12:30 p.m. event.

 

Thanks for the meeting report.

327...think about it...anybody young on a Friday at 12;30 was at work...the time frame was geared to an older demographic.  And "orchestra donors" are not from the hinterlands but usually the Hts.

Actually, that's why I'm never at these things either.  1230.  Hmpf.

 

But given that this is a college campus area, and Fridays are usually thin on classes, I'm surprised it didn't draw more students.

It's a bad time for us "college kids" as well.  Finals, final papers, presentations, and in my case all of the aforementioned plus 160 assignments to grade for my assistantship, makes our usually "lazy Fridays" not so lazy.  I really wanted to go, thanks for the rundown!

I would have loved to have gone, but 12:30 on any weekday is not a good time.

It's been quite awhile since I've lived in Cleveland, and even if my life depended on it, I could not have told you what was on that corner before Seidman. Home for holiday and UC looks fantastic.

 

Actually, that's why I'm never at these things either.  1230.  Hmpf.

 

But given that this is a college campus area, and Fridays are usually thin on classes, I'm surprised it didn't draw more students.

 

Yeah people are studying for Finals because for the next to weeks at least for me I have finals for all of my Classes....So Swamped

Yeah people are studying for Finals because for the next to weeks at least for me I have finals for all of my Classes....So Swamped

 

But not too swamped to be reading UrbanOhio? ;) Keep studying, especially your spelling and use of capitalization! Sorry -- it was there. I .... could .... not .... resist....

Yeah people are studying for Finals because for the next to weeks at least for me I have finals for all of my Classes....So Swamped

 

But not too swamped to be reading UrbanOhio? ;) Keep studying, especially your spelling and use of capitalization! Sorry -- it was there. I .... could .... not .... resist....

 

Lol I'm fine with capitalization and spelling but sometimes I just feel the urge to capitalize some letters that don't need caps....kind of like a habit I guess. I do admit I misused to because I should of put two but hey we all make mistakes.  8-)

Updates:

 

1) Two more storefronts filled:

 

- Tropical Smoothie Cafe opened on Friday

- Subway should open in the next two weeks

 

2) The Cleveland Diocese is currently selling a fairly prime piece of property in between the Church of the Covenant and Commodore Place building. 11303 Euclid Ave. 

 

It was the old Newman Center and seems to be part of the fire sale the diocese has been undertaking these past two years. 

 

Looks like it was mentioned in an article from 2010:

 

The diocese's Hallinan Center, which once housed the Catholic Newman Club at Case Western Reserve University, is on the market for $1.4 million.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/religion/index.ssf/2010/04/catholic_diocese_of_cleveland.html

 

I noticed a "for sale" sign on the building, which caused me to investigate.  IMO, the building should be demolished and the property redeveloped for needed residential/mixed use.

Updates:

 

1) Two more storefronts filled:

 

- Tropical Smoothie Cafe opened on Friday

- Subway should open in the next two weeks

 

2) The Cleveland Diocese is currently selling a fairly prime piece of property in between the Church of the Covenant and Commodore Place building. 11303 Euclid Ave. 

 

It was the old Newman Center and seems to be part of the fire sale the diocese has been undertaking these past two years. 

 

Looks like it was mentioned in an article from 2010:

 

The diocese's Hallinan Center, which once housed the Catholic Newman Club at Case Western Reserve University, is on the market for $1.4 million.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/religion/index.ssf/2010/04/catholic_diocese_of_cleveland.html

 

I noticed a "for sale" sign on the building, which caused me to investigate.  IMO, the building should be demolished and the property redeveloped for needed residential/mixed use.

 

Where are these storefronts located?

^ Tropical Smoothie is next to Qdoba. Subway is in the same building as Falafel and University Convenience, the big blocky apartment building.

Updates:

2) The Cleveland Diocese is currently selling a fairly prime piece of property in between the Church of the Covenant and Commodore Place building. 11303 Euclid Ave. 

 

I definitely noticed that property when I first read that article about the Diocese's land portfolio.  It's been my secret dream since to buy the property and develop a boutique hotel on it, but now I won't be able to afford it because you publicized its availability.  Thanks a lot.  :)

 

My other unrealistic fantasy for that site is the Methodist church buying it, building a garage on it (with ground level retail) and turning the church's current surface lot into a beautiful semi-public plaza.

^ Tropical Smoothie is next to Qdoba. Subway is in the same building as Falafel and University Convenience, the big blocky apartment building.

 

Is the Tropical Smoothie where that old Quiznos used to be?

Yeah people are studying for Finals because for the next to weeks at least for me I have finals for all of my Classes....So Swamped

 

But not too swamped to be reading UrbanOhio? ;) Keep studying, especially your spelling and use of capitalization! Sorry -- it was there. I .... could .... not .... resist....

 

Give the man a break, he's got a great username! :)

^ Tropical Smoothie is next to Qdoba. Subway is in the same building as Falafel and University Convenience, the big blocky apartment building.

 

Is the Tropical Smoothie where that old Quiznos used to be?

 

I think so, yes.

Yesterday it took me 45 minutes to get from ~East 35th to Cedar & Meadowbrook.  It was bumper to bumper traffic going East the entire way on Carnegie.  I assumed it was due to rush hour traffic from downtown workers as well as workers from the Clinic.  It turned out the new Tudor Arms Hotel valet service caused the entire backup.  It was not the valet's fault but the design of the hotel entrance.  There is only room for 1-2 cars to pull into the valet service and the backup of cars for the hotel caused the entire problem.  I do not usually travel this route so I don't know if there was an event last night that caused the hotel to have a larger number of guests arriving at that time but if this happens everyday they really need to move their entrance to the East side of the building.

Yesterday it took me 45 minutes to get from ~East 35th to Cedar & Meadowbrook.  It was bumper to bumper traffic going East the entire way on Carnegie.  I assumed it was due to rush hour traffic from downtown workers as well as workers from the Clinic.  It turned out the new Tudor Arms Hotel valet service caused the entire backup.  It was not the valet's fault but the design of the hotel entrance.  There is only room for 1-2 cars to pull into the valet service and the backup of cars for the hotel caused the entire problem.  I do not usually travel this route so I don't know if there was an event last night that caused the hotel to have a larger number of guests arriving at that time but if this happens everyday they really need to move their entrance to the East side of the building.

 

I have seen this happen more than once as well.  Sometimes they close the entire right lane.  I'm surprised the city allows them to do this, since there's no on-street parking on Carnegie anywhere at rush hour.

CWRU perspective on the Litt visit:

 

Plain Dealer Art and Architecture Critic Discusses Upcoming University Circle Development

By Eric Hamilton, Staff Reporter

 

Published: Thursday, December 8, 2011

Updated: Friday, December 9, 2011 06:12

 

On Friday, Dec. 2, Steven Litt, art and architecture critic for the Plain Dealer, joined the Public Affairs Discussion Group for a conversation regarding the recent and planned construction in University Circle. The event, held in the Kelvin Smith Library Dampeer Room, drew a large number of University staff and community members in addition to a few undergraduates.

 

The discussion centered primarily on the Uptown project, which includes the Museum of Contemporary Art, apartments, and retail space located along Euclid Ave. between Mayfield Rd. and E. 115th St.

 

The Public Affairs Discussion Group is sponsored by the Center for Policy Studies and led by the Center's director, Dr. Joseph White. The group meets once a week during the academic year to discuss issues of broad interest to the university community and surrounding neighborhoods.

 

http://www.cwruobserver.com/news/plain-dealer-art-and-architecture-critic-discusses-upcoming-university-circle-development-1.2731781#.TuJaodVSkUM

      -- Said he would never use the E.120-Euclid station since it is unsafe and poorly planned (damn...i use it everyday...)

 

Just had to comment on this. I've been riding the Rapid since I moved to Cleveland in 2002 and have comfortably gotten off on stops like W. 65, E. 93, E. 105, E. 116 and Windermere. But I've heard over and over (and over) how unsafe the E. 120th stop is and had never used it until about a year ago. Every time I went to University Circle, I would get off at the Cedar stop, which typically extended my walk by about 15 mins. (Little Italy and Case campus generally). So when I finally decided to give E. 120th a chance, with some trepidation, I was truly confused what the fuss had been about. Outside of being an open-air stop (which Cedar currently is anyway), I don't see the big deal. Found it to be adequately lit, and IMHO, smells a lot better than the Cedar station :)

 

As Uptown and MOCA and CIA consolidation and townhomes on both sides of the station go up, and with more "eyes on the street" generally, it strikes me that this stop actually could be really bustling in its current location with a) some mainly cosmetic improvements and b) a concerted effort to refute people's concerns about safety of this particular station. Still think siting between Uptown and Little Italy is better, but honestly, the current site is pretty well-positioned. 

      -- Said he would never use the E.120-Euclid station since it is unsafe and poorly planned (damn...i use it everyday...)

 

Just had to comment on this. I've been riding the Rapid since I moved to Cleveland in 2002 and have comfortably gotten off on stops like W. 65, E. 93, E. 105, E. 116 and Windermere. But I've heard over and over (and over) how unsafe the E. 120th stop is and had never used it until about a year ago. Every time I went to University Circle, I would get off at the Cedar stop, which typically extended my walk by about 15 mins. (Little Italy and Case campus generally). So when I finally decided to give E. 120th a chance, with some trepidation, I was truly confused what the fuss had been about. Outside of being an open-air stop (which Cedar currently is anyway), I don't see the big deal. Found it to be adequately lit, and IMHO, smells a lot better than the Cedar station :)

 

As Uptown and MOCA and CIA consolidation and townhomes on both sides of the station go up, and with more "eyes on the street" generally, it strikes me that this stop actually could be really bustling in its current location with a) some mainly cosmetic improvements and b) a concerted effort to refute people's concerns about safety of this particular station. Still think siting between Uptown and Little Italy is better, but honestly, the current site is pretty well-positioned. 

 

E.120 is the only stop I use in the past 2 years and I live in Little Italy!  I HATE the University Circle stop.  Especially with all the new townhomes built, I recommend the E.120 stop to all my out-of-town visitors.

 

EDIT: not to mention, the stop is also at the intersection of the Healthline.