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a "bridge rainbow" is a fabulous idea... I'd like to see a selection of festive pastels... such as these Cincinnati houses:

 

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geeze why does it cost so much to paint a bridge?

 

Lots of paint and lots of liability is what I would guess.

geeze why does it cost so much to paint a bridge?

 

For a lot of reasons.

 

1. Primer and paint is expensive.

2. If the bridge is older, then old lead paint must be removed before any work starts. This requires an elaborate scaffolding system, much sandblasting, then it is ready for primering and paint. That can more than double the cost right there alone.

3. Traffic management.

4. Unions and employees. Unions will commission up to 30% more pay on a given bridge painting project.

5. Cost inflations, especially after Hurriciane Katrina.

Maybe just painting them gray or a neutral color and then lighting them up at night different colors would be a better alternative.

Maybe just painting them gray or a neutral color and then lighting them up at night different colors would be a better alternative.

 

Yes...very much so.  I think the light scenario presented would be VERY cool...you could do a bunch of different things and really wow people.  Lets be honest are many people going to visit Cincinnati to see the "Rainbow Bridges?"  I think not...and the full-time residents will be stuck with a tacky looking river.

^I agree, I think the light option would be the best way to go as opposed to the "rainbow of bridges" scenario. I definitely do not like the gentleman's idea in the article of painting the Roebling bridge to reflect the Bengals. I love the Bengals, but the Roebling bridge.....orange? No thanks.

>Man, I love the Enquirer.

>Their "What Color Should the Suspension Bridge Be?" poll must've gotten a ton of hits.

 

 

Yeah, and the campaign to do this very thing for the Bicentennial.  How about polling the Enquirer staff on what year the Bicentennial was.  Or what color all the pills are they took this morning. 

I voted "No". To me, this seems like an idea we'll get tired of after a few years.

Maybe just painting them gray or a neutral color and then lighting them up at night different colors would be a better alternative.

 

Yes...very much so.  I think the light scenario presented would be VERY cool...you could do a bunch of different things and really wow people.  Lets be honest are many people going to visit Cincinnati to see the "Rainbow Bridges?"  I think not...and the full-time residents will be stuck with a tacky looking river.

 

for that style of bridge lighting go up to the cleve at night sometime and take a look. besides varying it, the best part is you can turn it off! dont get me wrong i like bridges lit with colored lighting, but in moderation.

 

painting that little house row pastels looks great, big bridges not so much. i am so glad the ppb has faded, i like it now, it looks fine toned down.

 

Louisville did the lighting thing with the GRC Memorial Bridge.  Not only does it look great at night but the flexibility of lights means that the more interesting truss features can be accented.

 

Also, years ago there was the lighted "LRS 102" sign on the Big 4 Bridge.  Shameless plug but it is a good idea.  Add lighted signs to the bridges.

This poll so far has been fantastic...what a tight race.

I like the idea of using some sort of lighting, but I wonder how much it will cost to run those lights.

the electricity would be pretty low if the use LEDs.

Maybe they could even do some sort of solar lighting system and light the bridge green.

Are maybe some small wind turbines to help generate some juice for the LEDs. There always seems to be a breeze going. Not on the Suspension Bridge of course.

 

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  • 4 months later...

Holy Crap!    Looks as if the trailer jumped away from the truck!

 

That just F%$#ed up alot of different peoples commutes coming from Indy and Harrison for awhile!!

 

Ouch!!  At least nobody was hurt and they were able to stop traffic on the bridge before things could get any worse.

That's a locomotive..lol

You're absolutely right..the load was a small industrial locomotive...kind of looks like an old GE 40-ton diesel, which was used for light switching duties.  So, 40 tons of locomotive plus the weight of that oversized rigging trailer and my-oh-my what a mess. 

 

The locomotive is in better shape than the bridge.

^LOL!!!!

Told ya the rail industry was getting better at attacking the competition!  :-P

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Choo choo!

 

I'm surprised the bridge hasn't considerably sagged. Or if it has, it certainly didn't occur immediately after the pier removal.

What a mess ... if only there was an alternative for these folks to get to work ...

What a mess ... if only there was an alternative for these folks to get to work ...

 

Can't they just take the commuter train or light rail? ... Oh ... wait ....

 

 

:roll:

They are saying 60-90 days that it will be closed.

 

 

Ladies & gentlemen, for today's physics lesson, we'll be presenting a graphic demonstration of...

 

INERTIA

 

Having seen what a gasoline fire can do to the supports and roadbed for a highway bridge, and how long it can take to rebuild, I have nothing but sympathy for the commuters in that area. Are there good public transit alternatives?

^ Nope!

 

... Should've lived closer to the city ;)

Having seen what a gasoline fire can do to the supports and roadbed for a highway bridge, and how long it can take to rebuild, I have nothing but sympathy for the commuters in that area. Are there good public transit alternatives?

 

There is a commuter bus shuttle that serves Miamitown (first exit past this underpass).  This shuttle used this route though...I'm not sure what a good alternative will be given that there are no good ways to navigate the Western portions of Hamilton County.

 

Lightrail was proposed to serve Western HamCo with the MetroMoves plan a few years back, but was heavily defeated in this area.  I know of several people, that live out there, who are now regretting their decisions.

Perhaps a ferry service along the Great Miami and then up the Ohio to downtown could be setup.

There is no alt. for these folks.    There is talk of shifting and merging east and west bound traffic to one lane on the remaining westbound bridge.

There's no way to get off I-74 and reconnect with I-275 somewhere else and vice versa? Or is that even worse?

People can come directly to downtown on I-74 but they can't get to the airport taking I-74 so they will have to get off on the next exit then come back the opposite direction on I-74/I-275 to get back on.

 

This is the split to the casino's and airport, not the split before cross county highway.

 

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It is the eastbound I-74 overpass. So drivers must exit I-74 onto south I-275 then get off at the Kilby road exit which is about 2 miles south of the accident. Then they must get back on northbound I-275 and take I-74 east. The ADT of this stretch of highway is 28k.  I think the only delays they will see will be on the single lane ramps.

That's going to suck for travelers from Harrison... Harrison Avenue is going to be overwhelmed.

Different angle.

Crash closes I-74 east

BY JENNIFER BAKER | [email protected]

 

WHITEWATER TWP. – State officials said work will start immediately to repair and reopen the eastbound Interstate 74 bridge at I-275 that was severely damaged after a tractor trailer carrying an 80-ton train engine slammed into three bridge support columns Tuesday night...

 

FULL ARTICLE AT: http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080521/NEWS01/805210387

Cost+ Contract here we come!

 

Also, they have a westbound lane on 74 blocked currently. Be ready to sit in traffic if you are traveling west. Dry Fork Road and Kilby are likely to be messes as well. Lots of people turning left on the two lane bridge. I imagine they may have to do something to keep the storage from entering the mainline during the PM rush hour.

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    Got stuck in traffic at Harrison and 128 this morning. Clearly the intersection was overloaded by vehicles going east on Harrison. Now I know why.

ODOT needs to upgrade / retime the signals at 128 & Harrison to begin with. Surely, this didn't help. My Aunt said she took West to Harrison and it was apparently a parking lot. What a surprise. It would be interesting to see dispersion patterns caused by this closure.

Choo choo!

 

I'm surprised the bridge hasn't considerably sagged. Or if it has, it certainly didn't occur immediately after the pier removal.

 

The decking has sank at least a foot already, according to the television.

Choo choo!

 

I'm surprised the bridge hasn't considerably sagged. Or if it has, it certainly didn't occur immediately after the pier removal.

The decking has sank at least a foot already, according to the television.

 

Yep, there is in fact a considerable deflection, but that's not too surprising. The pier was taken out, after all. I imagine it would be an even more impressive deflection if there wasn't a locomotive holding up part of the bridge.

 

The decking has sank at least a foot already, according to the television.

I-74 bridge detoured

Overpass is knocked out; emergency repair work to take months

BY LORI KURTZMAN AND JENNIFER BAKER | [email protected] AND [email protected]

 

WHITEWATER TWP. - Joe Duke felt a massive shove from behind when he shifted lanes in his tractor-trailer Tuesday evening. His truck lurched. Suddenly, things seemed strangely light...

 

SOURCE: WWW.ENQUIRER.COM

I-74 lane reopens

BY JENNIFER BAKER | [email protected]

 

The Enquirer will update this story as information develops.

 

WWW.ENQUIRER.COM

 

  • 2 weeks later...

RYBOLT ROAD CLOSURE

Between Russell Heights & Ruwe's Oak Drive (In Green Twp)

 

 

William W. Brayshaw, the Hamilton County Engineer, would like to announce the closing of Rybolt Road, between the Russell Heights & Ruwe's Oak Drive in Green Township, [glow=yellow,2,300]beginning Wednesday, June 4, 2008[/glow].

 

Work being performed by Sunesis Construction is roadway reconstruction and utility work and is anticipated to [glow=yellow,2,300]last until November 28, 2008[/glow] (weather permitting).

 

Problems or questions should be directed to either Matt Brauer with Sunesis at 513-326-6000 or to Mike Murray with M-E Companies at 513-942-3141 ext. 241.

 

Sunesis' detour will be routed over Rybolt Road to Wesselman Road to Harrison Road and vice versa.

 

For information on other projects, please visit our web site at:

www.hamilton-co.org/engineer

  • 4 weeks later...

IN HEBRON:

 

Beginning in Autumn 2007, Kentucky Route 237 will undergo a $19 Million rerouting and improvement including widening the road to five lanes from Litton Road south of Interstate 275 to Cardinal Drive. The road will be three lanes from Cardinal Drive to just north of North Point Elementary School. The improvement will feature two roundabouts (the second and third of their type in Northern Kentucky). One will be located at Cardinal Drive, the other at Graves Road. The plans also call for bike lanes and an eight foot wide pedestrian path. Plans for the improvement can be viewed at the KTC District Six office on Buttermilk Pike.

 

This project started in earnest the spring of this year (2008) and I have been meaning to start a project thread on it for a while now.  Hebron is a quickly growing area so this improvement is sorely needed both from a volume and safety standpoint.  Initial plans include sidewalks and bikelanes  :clap:

 

General info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentucky_Route_237

 

Plan info:

http://www.kytc.state.ky.us/D6/KY%20237/North%20Bend%20Road%20Improvements.pdf

Project Area Map (LARGE FILE):

http://www.kytc.state.ky.us/D6/KY%20237/KY-237.pdf

 

7/1/08 - ROW and utility work continue.

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